This man is right, what he is saying is that depression comes from our society. Krishnamurti said “ It is no sign of mental health to be well adjusted to such a sick society. “ Our society is not healthy for Homo sapiens.
Our society is built on materialism, greed and getting ahead at the cost of the next man/woman. Pretty much the antithesis of what a healthy empathetic family or community you would want to live in would look like, no wonder people escape it with Drugs only the truly sick people make it to the top. Bob Dylan said it best- "What's money? A man is a success it he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do."
@@bigdaz7272 "Our society is built on materialism, greed and getting ahead at the cost of the next man/woman. Pretty much the antithesis of what a healthy empathetic family or community you would want to live in would look like, no wonder people escape it with Drugs only the truly sick people make it to the top." Absolutely. I see this all the time, and I have often longed for a basic sense of community and support, I have no health care for example and would like to see a mental health professional but I can not afford it, but the economic anxieties and other things like this go much deeper than just lacking access to health care, it's a dog eat dog society of domination manipulation and control with precarious work, housing, transportation, and other basic things, and people really do lack shared communal support systems, even in families, people are extremely atomized, marginalized, and taught to take advantage of others for selfish material gain. We are a spiritually sick society.
A immense candid, transparent, and insightful interview about depression. In the Western culture, relationships are not highly valued. We achieve educational triumphs, but lack interdependent communities. I really want to read this book. Amy Goodman Rocks!
I will say this Amy and the co host were digging what they were hearing, because they were not interrupting him. I applaud his efforts and hope he continues his work.
I had twins at 24 weeks a pound and a half each. My son is deaf has cerebral palsy and topped off at 14 months non verbal. My daughter is off to college but very hostile and has issues from her childhood. My ex left when they were four they are 24 now. I’m an upper middle class attorney working hard who raised them. My son has been placed in wonderful residential care since he was nine. Depression anxiety anger grief anguish , it’s all reoccurring with dots of moments of joy.
Most authentic explanation of this very complex issues. I am a physician and I did encounter depressed patients and I have my own reservations of the current concepts of the science and treatments of depression. I tend to agree with J Hari and I have no doubts that majority of the depressed people would improve with return to the community living with families. But unfortunately majority of the people don’t have that choice or that opportunities. We are dragging our feet as that is the easiest thing to do. Has Monetization done the the impossible, by replacing the tribal living with a pill ? Need to think all of these more thoroughly. Thanks.
The American character: narcissism and consumption through one's narcissism all perpetuated by Puritan meritocracy. You're only worth what you can buy. People are monetized, commodified, and categorized for a profit driven society. We are forced to trade our souls for the excuse of "survival." Children grow up indoctrinated with the norm and play of consumption not values, learning, love of learning, skills, life lessons, humility, and compassion. Depression is the synthetic effect of haven't been nurtured in selflessness, community, and responsibility. Consumption is the social tyranny/control of our time; those who fail at it suffer the ingeniously non-violent punishment: depression. However, U.S. incarceration of POC is the most extreme manifestation: the bowels of capitalism for the worthless descendants of freed slaves and conquered Natives. When you can't conform, you're separated from society.
“Depression is not a pathology. Depression is a signal that something is not going right in our culture. When one in five people is going to take a psychiatric drug, in this society and this culture, that is a sign that all the alarm bells are going off, right? And what we’ve done up to now is we’ve pathologized that signal, and I think kind of insulted it.” “It’s bizarre to speak in these reductively biological terms about what are clearly problems in people’s lives.” What an excellent interview. Thank you so much.
Actually talk therapy with a psychotherapist privately has been one of the best healing methods for the anxiety & depression I have dealt with off & on for 30 yrs. So the fear to speak up is not a problem. Finding a good therapist who you trust is very important & some one who will not judge you.
Wow! Thanks Johann and DN! Now look at the comments below. Those who get it - are grateful. Those who don't - express the specific ideology which is making them so unhappy. I find it unsettling how we cling to our false prisons and even shout in defense of our jailers.
Chasing the Scream is a really good book. I definitely will be getting this new book. Surprisingly, I first heard of this author on Coast to Coast AM, he did a show with George maybe about three years ago.
The root of all evil is money, because it breeds selfishness and greed, and makes our society sick. Getting rid of money and going to some sort of barter system would mean we start doing things for the right reasons again, not just for profit and compensation.
A primary sign of Psychological health is kindness to ALL others, of all species. After ending complicity with the first form of cap-italism which is the slaughterhouse industry , and all of its dehumanizing worse wicked ways, I got happier, healthier, and my heart grew and grew in compassion for the plights of all suffering. I easily dropped off excess weight with a healthy , whole foods, much raw food vegan diet. Most of those prescription drugs are developed on vegans, it is a gross oversight to not prescribe the vegetarian/vegan diet to others being given that drug. Humaneness is happiness.
If we can rise above the corruption embedded into OUR governance... Unite as people ... locally and globally...and transition from a corporate capitalist system... Into a worker Co-operative/ resource based Economy... Many of these issues we face would go away. This is the nature vs nurture debate with an Economic twist.
Unfortunate the host at minute 26 interupted Johann at the moment he was going to reveal more of the real causes of depression. Probably she was starting to feel unconftable that it was going to reveal her lifestyle is the typical western lifestyle. To bad for me and others who wanted to hear more reasons why we feel collectively depressed
Some valid points, environment and trauma can contribute to some people’s depression, but it does not explain all cases. No childhood trauma, loving relationship with my wife, very comfortable life, yet I have cycled in and out of depressive states for forty years. No correlation to any events in my life.
itomba I found the book that has changed my life. Nutrient Power by Dr William Walsh! We all have our own biochemical individuality and epigenetic makeup that causes us to feel a certain way. One's man's medicine can be another man's poison, so it's important to see what we are lacking or sometimes worse, have too much off. A person can have too much copper, which happens in a lot of women after childbirth, as copper levels naturally double and they may feel postpartum depression. A person who is Under methylated Can feel anxious and depressed but if you give them folic acid it will make them worse! You might have pyrole disorder which causes you to be depleted in Zinc and B-6 which are responsible for making dopamine and therefore are never happy. You can also be lacking folic acid and feel depressed but SSRI's will make it worse if you are in that group and this usually leads to suicide and homicide. There is always a reason. Listen to what your body is trying to tell you. He has a great protocol and uses simple blood tests and urine to find out what is causing our symptoms. Depression and anxiety are just that, symptoms that something is not in balance. Western medicine sadly uses medicines to try and mask symptoms instead of finding the real cause. He is a fantastic man who dedicated his life to this. Check him out and find a Walsh Institute Dr near you! It's worth it! Good luck.
Great points made by Hari. However, when he uses the Amish as an example of a group with low depression it is curious how he dismisses their religious life. Atheists like to ignore the central issue and talk about peripheral phenomena. Jung said that, at bottom, the main problem of most of his patients was spiritual.
if society becomes to un equal the game's not working no one wins the table will get flipped bad for everyone the rich get beheaded ,the poor revolt . then a worse system takes over hell for every one
When I'm drivin' in my car And that man comes on the radio He's tellin' me more and more About some useless information Supposed to fire my imagination I can't get no, oh no, no, no Hey hey hey, that's what I say I can't get no satisfaction I can't get no satisfaction 'Cause I try and I try and I try and I try I can't get no, I can't get no When I'm watchin' my T. V. And that man comes on to tell me How white my shirts can be But he can't be a man 'cause he doesn't smoke The same cigarrettes as me I can't get no, oh no, no, no Hey hey hey, that's what I say I can't get no satisfaction I can't get no, oh no, no, no
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime. True Self Esteem comes from within. It can't be given to you. You have to earn it.
Vincent Feutry. Put effort into doing something well or correctly. Done? Cool, feels good, doesn't it? Who cares what the next guy thinks? You did well...own it...you earned it...move on to the next. Hope I helped.
Please do not color your comments with statements about specific political people. I deal with my severe chronic depression every day and I agree that my condition has been exacerbated by loneliness and isolation but that is not because of the left or the right or conservative or liberal leaning citizens. Each time you injected your clear political bias I found myself almost unable to listen. You run the risk of undermining your message.
The world is depressing coz government is providing almost everything nowadays. You don't need your neighbours so to speak when there is free bread lying around.
