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John Baez on the number 8 

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This ain't Sesame Street.
The Rankin Lectures 2008, My Favorite Numbers, were given by John Baez of the University of California at Riverside.
Baez is well-known for, among other things, his long-running web column This Week's Finds in Mathematical Physics and the research blog The n-Category Café.
The number 8 plays a special role in mathematics due to the "octonions", an 8-dimensional number system where one can add, multiply, subtract and divide, but where the commutative and associative laws for multiplication - ab = ba and (ab)c = a(bc) - fail to hold.
The octonions were discovered by Hamilton's friend John Graves in 1843 after Hamilton told him about the "quaternions". While much neglected, they stand at the crossroads of many interesting branches of mathematics and physics.
For example, superstring theory works in 10 dimensions because 10 = 8+2: the 2-dimensional worldsheet of a string has 8 extra dimensions in which to wiggle around, and the theory crucially uses the fact that these 8 dimensions can be identified with the octonions. Or: the densest known packing of spheres in 8 dimensions arises when the spheres are centered at certain "integer octonions", which form the root lattice of the exceptional Lie group E8. The octonions also explain the curious way in which topology in dimension n resembles topology in dimension n+8.
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@ianji
@ianji 8 лет назад
John slips up at 34:50 when he talks about multiplying a spinor with a vector to get a new spinor - he accidentally says "to get a new vector" instead of "to get a new spinor". Just to show that I am paying attention:-)
@thesatefan
@thesatefan 9 лет назад
Why do i keep watching things i dont understand?
@joshuazeidner8419
@joshuazeidner8419 6 лет назад
try figuring this out math.ucr.edu/home/baez/octonions/octonions.html
@mrnarason
@mrnarason 6 лет назад
curiosity is a hard drug
@ArcAngle111
@ArcAngle111 6 лет назад
@@mrnarason the hardest drug indeed.
@ArcAngle111
@ArcAngle111 6 лет назад
...hardest drug to do...
@isambo400
@isambo400 5 лет назад
Just remember k times j is MINUS j times i and ur set mate
@TenHanger
@TenHanger 7 лет назад
This is the best physics video I've seen in a LONG time, maybe ever. God Bless William Rowan Hamilton, and I hope he someday gets his proper due in the Pantheon of the Greats. Well done Mr Baez, been seeing your name a lot in the recent past, keep on truckin sir.
@Kalumbatsch
@Kalumbatsch 7 лет назад
It's a mathematics lecture.
@WillTalbot
@WillTalbot 6 лет назад
We all know him from Hamiltonian mechanics but once people understood the important of quaternions and hypercomplex numbers then yes he WILL get his proper due...
@Shlungoidwungus
@Shlungoidwungus 6 лет назад
You don't understand what this video was about at all.
@ryanlafferty5948
@ryanlafferty5948 11 лет назад
A norm is sort of an abstraction of the idea of length. Your intuition for it should be the length of a vector in ordinary 3d space, but it's a lot more general than that. Basically, it takes a vector in some vector space (could be R^n, or even things like function spaces and sequence spaces which are infinite dimensional) and gives you back a number, in such a way that it satisfies a few axioms that make it behave vaguely like a measure of length.
@ryanlafferty5948
@ryanlafferty5948 11 лет назад
No problem. Yes, it is invariant under isometries so it could be used in that context.
@PeeteyP
@PeeteyP 11 лет назад
Thanks Ryan, I think I understand now. I think it's what's used to convert between 2 different affine geometries.
@dlwatib
@dlwatib 7 лет назад
John Baez equates the number 8 with the octonions. There's much more to the number 8 than that, but the margin of this webpage is too small for me to elaborate on it here.
@PeeteyP
@PeeteyP 11 лет назад
No way? With Real a & b?? Say it ain't so! Really?
@nyuh
@nyuh 2 года назад
mathe
@omp199
@omp199 10 лет назад
At 22:05, the little girl is turning round in shocked disbelief to ask the person sitting behind her, "Did he _really_ just claim that the octonions were _obscure_? I've been to two octonion-themed birthday parties this week alone!"
@dlwatib
@dlwatib 7 лет назад
octonion ≠ octogenarian
@ryanlafferty5948
@ryanlafferty5948 11 лет назад
Yeah. In fact, R2 has no multiplicative structure at all. You can't multiply vectors to get a vector for instance. Complex numbers are cool because some geometry is actually built into the way they multiply. For example, multiplying by i gives you a 90 degree rotation. Say you have a point z = a+ib on the complex plane. i*z=i*(a+ib)=i*a+i^2*b= -b+i*a. Plot both, check it yourself. Multiplying z by its conjugate, z*, gives you the square of the length. So you get R2 for free + extras.
@solanofelicio
@solanofelicio 8 лет назад
"So I think that's a good place to stop. It's where things get really misterious" is the best line to end a lecture.
@cbranalli
@cbranalli 9 лет назад
i came here for the folk music
@dlwatib
@dlwatib 7 лет назад
John ≠ Joan
@zafapi9652
@zafapi9652 7 лет назад
They are related.
@mateusmachadofotografia8554
@mateusmachadofotografia8554 3 года назад
Joan in 8 dimensions is John
@robertschlesinger1342
@robertschlesinger1342 4 года назад
Excellent lecture. John Baez's overview papers on Octonions and On Division Algebras may be found on his website and at arXiv.org
@rodovre
@rodovre 7 лет назад
Brilliant. Tough to follow, but brilliant.
@PeeteyP
@PeeteyP 11 лет назад
I'm kind of shocked that it took 251 years to say that "i" is just "y." ((n+ m(i)) is just a planar coordinate.)
@christianayers6174
@christianayers6174 4 года назад
life was slow back in the day
@ryanlafferty5948
@ryanlafferty5948 11 лет назад
Haha yeah. R2 doesn't have the multiplicative structure of C though.
@PeeteyP
@PeeteyP 11 лет назад
Pardon my ignorance; How do we measure the efficiency of the square packing vs the hexagonal packing?
@danthemanxf
@danthemanxf 9 лет назад
ty for uploading - getting harder to follow though lol
@MatthewLong8
@MatthewLong8 3 года назад
This was an awesome talk!
@123must
@123must 11 лет назад
Thanks a lot !
@jlw19491
@jlw19491 11 лет назад
very interesting
@joshuazeidner8419
@joshuazeidner8419 6 лет назад
great lecture.
@PeeteyP
@PeeteyP 11 лет назад
What is a norm?
@dlwatib
@dlwatib 7 лет назад
The usual definition of the norm of a vector is its length (always a positive number or zero). It can be defined as any function that assigns a strictly positive length or size to each vector in a vector space-save for the zero vector, which is assigned a length of zero.
@NothingMaster
@NothingMaster 5 лет назад
8 is my favorite number, too; especially when it falls on its side.
@erwinmarschall2465
@erwinmarschall2465 8 лет назад
table at 36:20, I think number of real dimensions of spinors is wrong for n=5,6 (dim=8 instead of 4)
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