@@tusharimdad9595 1984? Was a little before my time as a John Barnes fan but yeah, seen it plenty of times over my lifetime. Pushed expectation of him through the roof, so it was part curse and part blessing.
Foden cant because Bellingham is taking his position, Foden needs to start centrally hes not a touchline winger. Gordon should play on the left because hes more of a touchline winger.
@@YTA5690 I think what he means is that if you're a top top player you'll win matches regardless of if you are out wide or in the centre. You have the talent to adapt.
Facts David Silva stepped up for spain playing on the Wing. Great players take responsibility regardless of position and he's put in class games from that position for City so we know he can do it just shrinks in the England shirt
Bellingham didn't play the last friendly for England and Foden was still poor there. Foden is a system player. A lot of things have to go his way for him to really shine.
With Gordon, England should forget about winning any tiurnament. Foden is an elite player, and in those tight games later on in the tournament, you need him. Bellingham should be deeper and if not.. they should allow Harry Kane to drop off and vacate the space so Bellingham can run in there. Jude has a good engine but it's mad to build team around him as a number 10. He makes too many players redundant
This is the sort of hard decision making that England historically does not do. England tends to force in all of their big names whether they fit or not
@@harrisonmonte-carlo8779 I know and it would solve the problem in midfield next to rice and they can put a proper left winger in like Gordon who keeps the width Bellingham won’t be playing as a 10 next season for Madrid it’s just because they didn’t have a striker it will all change when mbappe plays Bellingham will be an 8
What? So you restrict the best player in the world to fit Foden? You Di Maria in his prime is on the right wing because Madrid likes to run wingers that go inside. He still played left wing for Messi because you don’t limit Messi to play Di Maria at his best. Di Maria adapted to that. Foden has to adapt to someone better than him. Bellingham is the only chance England has and you shouldn’t restrict him so Foden can shine. That’s like making a rock shiny when you already have the best diamond in the world.
@@olekmasidnoz9182 brother, Jude is in conversations as the best in the world. He’s on Vini, and Mbappé levels. That’s Ballon d’Or levels. Phil Foden isn’t that. He’s good. But he’s not Mbappé good, he’s not Vinicius good, he hasn’t actually really reached even Haaland good. Jude elevated himself up there.
Ancheloti is the best because he had Ac milan that had the same issue and created the diamond formation to accommodate Kaka and Seedorf. Why can't England do that instead of playing players out of thier positions.
I always wondered why England didn't play the diamond back in the Golden Generation days because that's the only formation where you could get Scholes, Gerrard and Lampard playing centrally. If Beckham was in then Gerrard would be the holder but that would still have been better than putting these guys on the flank IMHO. A Christmas tree formation (4-3-2-1) is the only formation that might have been better in that situation but that meant dropping one of the forwards. Rooney was better up top alone than Owen. The full backs would have a lot to do in the diamond. Cole and Neville weren't ideal for that system but that's the challenge finding the best system for the best players.
City play completely different. Trippier doesn’t maraud forward like Cancelo used to do when Foden played there. Foden has been even better in the 10 though.
@@Bert-lw1ot he has hardly if ever played on left this year. Last year Grealish was favoured on the left. Plus you must have missed Gvardiol getting forward at will.
Spot on. It is the Bellingham show now. England's obsession with a superstar. The reason we never win. It was Kane; the play maker. Just nonsense as usual. Whatever the team needs, not the best players.
Bellingham actually backs up the hype and takes games by the scruff of the neck. Every game he plays he has an impact, much like Saka. However the same can’t be said for Foden for England.
@@martymarl4602Bellingham shouldn't be dropped he should be put next to rice and foden in the 10 n Gordon on the left and kane needs to stop dropping deep. Bellingham can still make his late runs,foden can create and make defence cutting passes
Just use Foden as an impact sub in last 15 mins to keep Jude fresh. That will scare rivals until Foden gets fit & catches 🔥. Start Palmer & Gordon as they are on 🔥 & also sub them with Saka & Bowen & Eze. USE SUBS BETTER as per the Maths Profs & run rivals ragged.
@@123daniel4 foden is 23ish 6 prems 5 league cups 5 fa cups 100 points cl treble sc cswc player of the year . saka zero and bottler oh and foden add 4 peek
Finish 8th Lowest PL finish Wins 18 Only previously won fewer games once, 16 in 2021/22 Defeats 14 Club record Goals 57 Scored fewer goals twice, in 2015/16 & 2016/17 Goals conceded 58 Club record Goal difference -1 First negative goal difference in PL history Points 60 Only previous won fewer points once, 58 in 2021/22 Shots faced 667 Record high (since Opta data began in 2003)
City played silva and de bruyne in a midfield 3 with Fernandinho. That team also had sane, sterling and aguero in the team. If you want to play your best players together you can do it you have the confidence
If England play 4:3:3 we can play with two number 10s Bellingham and Foden, with Rice as the deepest midfielder .Back of four Walker, Stones, Guehi, Trippier or shaw. Front three of Saka, Kane, Gordon or Eze. Become a 4:5:1 out of posession. Then Bob’s your uncle I should be England manager
What a silly excuse. Pep won’t be at city forever so a new coach would come and change the way they play. Also a top player needs to adapt to a different environment. Saka, Vini, Jude etc are performing for their countries. Foden is a top guardiola player. He isn’t world class.
You clearly don't follow Brazil cause Vini is getting criticism for not performing for Brazil at the same level as Real Madrid, Rodrygo plays better for Brazil than him
Vini has the same issue with Brazil and he is playing in his preferred position but can't do it like foden! Foden has played vs Iceland as #10 and ghosted the whole game
I dont think Gareth Southgate is technically astute enough to solve the problem of playing our best players in a system/formation,unlike Carlo Ancellotti
He had one the best midfielders behind him. The game against Serbia he was naturally coming back into the 8 role and by doing so tired himself out and faded throughout the second half.
Hold on, isn't this the same Phil Foden that was brilliant largely playing on the left wing for several seasons before moving more centrally the season just gone? The same Phil Foden that never turned up for England prior to Bellingham breaking into the squad? I don't think it's where he's playing/playing with Jude and more-so about the England shirt weighing heavy or Southgate not getting the best out of him
Foden needs to deliver when he gets time, you can't keep blaming on Southgate or positions, when he gets the ball he needs to make things happen its simple as that, no more excuses by everyone! Foden whereever he plays he has to do the job and do it well! The player needs to stand up to challenges!
Finally some words of wisdom. Barnes knows better than most as England never saw the best of him. If you play Jude deeper then Foden may be effective. Should England beat or draw with Denmark then for the last game play Gordon; Foden and Saka behind Kane or even Watkins. What may help Foden is a player like Watkins making runs in the channels freeing space up. But come on Southgate aint Pep.
Without Shaw on the pitch, you can easily argue 'Go three at the back, play two up front, have two proper wingers/WAMs, Two B2Bs and one holding the fort.' That's the only way I can see fitting both Foden and Bellingham into the same side. Pickford; Walker, Stones, Guehi; Saka, Bellingham, Rice, Foden, Eze; Kane, Watkins.
You are right, but it's hard to tell him to stop when he's on fire atm while kane and foden are underperforming. I don't think I have seen kane make a run off a defenders shoulder in 4 years!
We call that best player in the world syndrome. Because he is. Kane will adapt, Bellingham doesn’t overlap much with him. But Foden needs to change it up. He’s gonna need to rediscover himself or else be swallowed by the media like now. And he can’t push Bellingham out of that position.
@MungaRaphael-lz3wx you are so right, jude is a black boy, he needs to make way for foden. If we keep rewarding places based on merit we will end up looking like the French squad!😡
@@geekylove3603 When you can play with your left and right foot as well as he can you can play anywhere. This kid is a sensational talent and the fact he is not on the pitch is criminal
Bellingham isnt even a number 10. He's a natural 8. Play Jude in his actual position and play foden in his actual position. There's only one man to blame and its Southgate. Has the easiest job in the world If I was foden I'd just walk out of the camp and go on holiday until Southgate is sacked
I think the inability to maximize veryone's potential is basically tactical and man management. theoretically, if you make the perfect touch, use the correct techniques, and make the right decisions, everyone can shine in the team. They just need to be team players rather than individuals. in other words, in every game, jude, foden, etc. just need to perfectly string the perfect passes and movements at the right tempo, and shoot hard and accurate enough, and everyone's happy.
Just play Jude deeper.. which is where he’s going to end up next year at RM. He played as a 10/false 9 because they didn’t have a star striker. Mbappe and Vini jr will be doing that, with Rodrygo too. Jude is gonna be an 8 who comes from deep to score goals, just like Lampard.
The problem isn’t Foden, it’s Southgate. Player of the season, yet Southgate bends over backwards to accommodate TAA, who did nothing. Bellingham just marauds around the pitch as if he’s the only one that matters, it’s supposed to be a team game, not the Jude Bellingham show! There’s no fluidity, no communication, countless times Foden was asking for the ball, making himself available, but just ignored
Both players like to take up the same space, which does not work. Play Bellingham as 10 and leave Foden on the bench. Play a wide man left and bring back Shaw as soon as he is fit.
Call me old fashioned but what’s wrong with having two proper strikers up front like the old days so they can work together I would have toney and Watkins with foden behind Gordon on the left palmer on the right with rice and Bellingham in the middle and use Kane as a impact sub as my nan is quicker than him use the wide players to whip first time crosses in or even a cross would nice instead on this short tippy tappy passing on the floor which gets us nowhere then ends up all the way pack to the keeper.our players have no confidence to turn and beat a player and create quick passing football they stand on the ball and pass back.i have watched most of the games and most of the other nations play quick tempo football with the ball hit from one side to the other or down the wings crossing in to the boxes creating chances also hitting shots from outside of the box. we do not do that we want to walk the ball in to the net this style of football has been drummed into them for the last 8 years I think they don’t know how to play any different it’s like they have been brainwashed by Southgate I reckon Pickford has more touches than the rest of the keepers. if Kane is up front on his own then he needs balls whipped across the box not balls passed around the side of the area looking in for a way in to the box only for the ball to be sent all the way back to the keeper
So you move Saka out of the right? Oh he likes to roam like Jude? So the best player in the world has to adapt to someone who’s worse than him? Bellingham is the face of the England team. Foden needs to adapt.
@@BiggestChungus21Bellingham in your opinion is best player in the world not mine. They are both that good they’d adapt, either could drop abit whilst the other is more forward
England can't bring the ball out of the back. Bellingham has to play alongside Rice and Foden plays behind Kane or on the right and Kane plays behing the striker.
Bellingham should be in the midfield to next Rice. Bellingham isnt a playmaker like that, he's a crash the box midfielder who can get up and down the pitch and score goals. Just because Bellingham plays CAM for Real Madrid doesn't mean he should play there for England. Madrid have the players to hide Judes deficiencies despite what the media says. Foden needs players on the same wavelength.
Foden is a system player Jude is a free player, Pep turns players into system players, his players. For Foden to shine he must play freely & get the Pep system out of his mind!
Rice holding, intercepting, simple passing, Bellingham has the fire and talent to be box to box, create and score then Foden 10 and coming in LW should be Gordon.
Foden has NEVER brought it for England either on the left or in the middle. The team needs penetration down the left so put a proper winger there. Also Rice needs a strong DM next to him so that he can go forward so no Trent for me.
A lot of stupid people are trying to restrict the face of the project, the best player in the world for Phil Foden. Lol. Who gets pushed out? Someone who’s premier league player of the year? Or someone in conversations as the best player in the world with Vini and Mbappé, and plays for Real Madrid, the best team in the world with the most pressure, and highest standards? Madridistas hate non-perfect players and they all adore Jude. It’s obvious who needs to sacrifice. Look at Germany, they have two 10s and they adapted. Foden needs to adapt to Bellingham because he’s the face of the team and their best player. Also more importantly, it could be possible that Foden just had an off night. Lol.
Foden is overrated and is getting exposed outside of Man City. Great players are great wherever they play, even out of position. Good players (not exceptional) like Foden can't adjust. English hype as usual. Bellingham has mega hype that upsets people but he backs it up, even when he has bad games, people with ball knowledge see the little things he does to help the team out.
Bellingham is massively overrated too. He done fuxk all for Real Madrid in the latter stages of the season. He scores goal or assists to cover up stinkers 😂
@@olekmasidnoz9182Jude doesn't just score goals you know, where was Vini at the beginning of the season when Jude was winning el clasicos and Girona matches at the beginning of the season? He was La Liga player of the season for a reason, overrated is not the word... 😏😂
We desperately need an old fashioned winger who can take on the full back and cross the ball like a prime John Barnes or Lee Sharpe...we just don't have these any more.
Jude wasn't playing against Iceland.... Foden still wasn't good as a 10. people just need to understand that these system players are average when they don't have the system and other players to do dirty work. Foden in Man City system got no responsibility. he get no blame and no pressure. people like Rashford carried his team and blame. Greanlish carried Villa.
Individuals instead of a team, that's the problem. Not to mention so many of our players like the ball to feet. Kane, Saka, Foden Bellingham, Palmer all like the ball at their feet in or around that 10 position. We have nobody running in behind.
Foden has to be played centrally as that #10 playmaker. He’s superb when he receives the ball on the half turn and sprays passes around. Bellingham will still have the same impact on the game deeper alongside Rice. It’s a no brainier!
It's simple Gareth. Players in their strongest position. Bellingham with Rice in middle. Foden in #10 and Gordon/Eze on the left. At least try it for 30 mins!
Why the hell should Jude take a back seat to accommodate Foden? For 4yrs Foden had many chances and blee them all. He was playing the central against Iceland whilst Jude was resting after the CL and he did nothing. What does that say?!?
I agree with Barnes. Foden has been played in all foward positions by Pep and has excelled in all of them. We saw him play as a 10 against Iceland and he still struggled regardless. Based on the system Southgate plays Foden will not thrive henceforth he has to bench
This is all on Southgate, having to direct wingers from either side is not the way to go if you wanna control games going forward an defend.. play Foden in a 4 3 3 an you'll find the balance!
Personally think we shouldn’t be playing Kane. He doesn’t offer anything else besides a tap in, need a player almost like Havertz who acts as a pivot for the whole team and can make darting runs
The solution is so clear, drop Foden to the bench, try Gordon or Eze out on the left wing. Bring Foden on in the second half if Saka or Bellingham need to come off. Bellingham now has the number 10 spot locked down.
