John Blackthorne Tries to Ally with Kashigi and Abandon Tornaga Shogun Episode 8 

😂😂 damn you remind me of nostalgia

My horse needs exercise

Yea, but he's the Lord, so he trumps other people. He betrayed Martin too by putting his church near a brothel.

@@the_jones528 The trolling aside, I think it's a good combination actually. I think Martin might actually prefer that over being put next to a Buddhist or Shinto shrine, or a tannery. And since it is going to be a high-class brothel, they will be good neighbours.

loyalty only runs one way

@@the_jones528 well he put the church right next to the souls that need more saving

Well, the point is Toranaga didn't mean to be loyal towards the Englishman. Toranaga is a lord. He's free to abandon the pilot as soon as it gets inconvenient to protect him. He's also free to send a woman on a suicide mission as soon as he feels like he will benefit from her death. Basically, this concept of the samurai style loyalty turns loyal vassals into property, obedient slaves. No wonder this concept didn't get more popular in the future.

She does that 90% of the time.

I wonder if it's actual mistranslation or just the subtitles are cutting out a bunch of context, that happens a lot in modern TV shows I've noticed whenever there's scenes with foreign languages whoever does the subtitling in these shows seems to think they've got to summarise what the person is actually saying. It happened a bunch in Boardwalk Empire with the Sicilian language scenes, the subtitles took away some of the actual meaning of what they were properly saying. I recall seeing comments on another video about the mistranslation from a Japanese speaker and they said Mariko is actually translating correctly, it's just the subtitles are changing what she said.

@@GooglyEyedJoe I'm not sure the show was built from the ground up with Japanese and english in mind It's not like they released the show and hired another company to make the subtitles

Nah, he's still kind of scummy.

he's a schemer but still honorable by that time's standard. a lord like Toranaga need both a schemer and a bootlicker like Yabushige to do his bids

hes honorable because hes still green. lol the very same episode he realizes what he truely seeks. he blesses his uncle later

He fits in, but is not long-winged, Yabushige and Blakthorn don't fit in.

I feel like he really was friends with Nagakado and after his death at the hot spring he seemed genuinely shaken, probably reconsidering a lot of his past actions and his current worldview.

fuji will live i think, mariko will die in osaka, if the make it similar to the 1980s show

What?? No!!!

Thanks for letting me know goofy

Fuji too?? It was suppposed to be Mariko

Nice job predicting the future you goof lmao

Exactly, I hate it... hes just an idiot in this version. A sneaky, low IQ, idiot.

Dude....its an adaptation. Its the directors and producers take and interpretation of the book. It wouldn't be so much of an adaptation if they strictly stayed by the book.

@evansyed4960 him and mariko are unrecognisable. Adaptation doesn't mean total vivisection of the character. Aside from that, the original TV series didn't need to do this bs and was loved and still cherished. Crap writing is crap writing.

@@misterRDF can u deny that for as many people that hate, the equal amount also love it. And some are rightfully treating this a different show

@@misterRDF -HEAR HEAR!!!!

that is TRUE loyalty .regardless of the circumstances lol. in real life we all want an undying and changing loyalty

@yelliedensss seems like stupidity, he commits suicide so I should to...dafaq