John Cale on David Bowie and Donald Trump 

dougie bowne wow awesome

Ye and he played viola on the track We will fall in the stooges record

@@MidnightStorm4990 - I was in Iggy's band after I left Cale's band! :)

@@MidnightStorm4990 yes that's right. I never likedt he track personally but it's sounds better to my mature ears now.

I remember seeing Bowie at Carnegie in a non-Bowie context. Couldn't remember much more till now. I was a recent Columbia (WKCR) grad. Thank for jogging my memory.

Dumb question- is Welch a different language?? Always thought they spoke English in Wales..??

@@bionicbigfoot2790 Welsh is a very different language to English. John Cale has a slight Welsh accent (more pronounced on The Gift with Velvet Underground). Whether he ever speaks Welsh I don't know, most Welsh, I think, know both languages, some areas speak it more than others.

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@@bionicbigfoot2790 It's a completely different language, but the first language spoken in Wales has been English for a very long time, due to colonisation. Same thing happened in Ireland regarding the Irish language.

There have been several U.S. Presidents with Welsh ancestry, including Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, John Quincy Adams, James A. ... Beauregard, U.S. Vice President Hubert Humphrey, and U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton are also of Welsh heritage

neonatalpenguin Give it a while, you too will have an "amazing face".

It's funny to read you saying Jjohn Cale should be in the casting of Game of Thrones... because when i saw Ciarán Hinds playing Mance Rayder, he really made me think about John Cale :D

@@mr.sensitive9963 Maybe for him, but for the vast majority of people certainly not-unfortunately.

Once you turn 40 you start getting the face that you deserve

There is a kind of melancholia in his music, but he's so, so vital and alive. I don't know whether that's a part of the Welsh persona, and I don't mean that in a 'type' way or anything, but a lot of Welsh people (including family) have a kind of sadness mixed in with the zest for life.

Is it "farthest" or "furthest" ??? Not too sure about that one !! ~~ Lol !!!

I've been listening to Mr. Cale for decades. All the way from the Velvet Underground, through his solo works and his collaborations with other musicians as well. He's simply one of the most talented, innovative and intelligent musicians I have ever heard.

Really noticeable after Lou died.. never seemed to leave his face after that.. a melancholy and vulnerability..

@@bobdobbs7000 agreed, yet still so underrated, it beggars belief. I was lucky to have tripped over him in the early 80's, and since then he's been my musical God. Long may he continue.

IDK if you made this comment to troll people but Cale was “way more important” to the VU than ANY of the others? I’d agree with you about all but Lou Reed. I love Cale but he wasn’t even ON “The Velvet Underground” (arguably the best LP they released) or “Loaded”. Cale had a HUGE influence on the sound and dynamics of the “The VU and Nico” and “White Light, White Heat”, their sound, after Cale left, is NOTHING like it was before, and the most “groundbreaking” stuff they released was when Cale was in the band, but Sweet Jane and Rock and Roll are Cale-free, and those are canon. I’d be more likely to agree if you’d said Cale was the most “interesting” or “mysterious”, but more “important” to the VU than Lou Reed? Nah...

@Gregg Helmbold well what gets up people's nose, who appreciate Cale's work, is the unproportional attention between Cale and Reed. Cale was as vital as Reed, and should have been co-credited for the music, but selfish Reed would have none of that. He would make almost everybody believe it was entirely all down to him. People with lesser insight believe The Velvets was Lou Reed and some supporting fellow musicians - or Nico, who is even better know for being part of The Velvets than Johnny Viola. If we talk about the Beatles it's Lennon/McCartney, The Stones it's Jagger/Richard's, so with The Velvets it should be Reed/Cale. Considering Cale went on to invent Goth with Nico and then produce the debuts of The Stooges, Patti Smith and The Modern Lovers, I can't see anybody as important and influential in the shaping of Punk and Alternative Music than the Welsh Wizard. He is such an underrated musical genius, it beggars belief. PS: The Velvet Underground their best lp? No way, insignificant compared to the former two - a good Rock lp, but nothing more. That is just my view, tastes do differ.

@@ForARide You nailed it, pal. 100% agree! Truth be told, Reed put out years of mediocre dribble as he rode on his VU reputation. Who remembers his string of flop albums and lousy singles like "City Lights"?? No one but the most fanatical Reed fans.

I hear no american accent in John Cales's native sligthly welsh dialect english at all.

@@edvinlaine I would disagree. His accent has softened a bit as he has lived in the states and picked up a bit of American influence here and there. I would agree that it is still very Welsh in many ways but it is also clear to me ths he has lived away from there for a long time and picked up some American sounds along the way.

@@edvinlaine As a Welshman, I can definitely hear strong Americanisations in his dialect

I remember The Mudd Club, and The Nursery after that (and the UK Club after that....) Wonderful days.

Foxiepaws ACAnderson What I love is that John Cale, a fellow Welshman who was born 6 miles from where I live and whose first language is Welsh, went to America and helped form the Velvet Underground. I maybe a sad act for saying this, but this really does blow my mind.

Well without Reed songs his fine arrangements couldnt exist. John once said that he took to many years to realize that Moes drumming was 1 of the most original aspects of the VU

@@theWARMJET yet without Cale's fine arrangements, we'd have a second rate Bob Dylan, namely Lou Reed.

​@@ForARide oh that's a terrible comparison, Lou Reed was more about delivering imagery direct rather than painting a complex and well written lyrical landscape. If anything he had more in common with Leonard Cohen, but either way, to call Reed anyone's second rate shows a lack of understanding why he is considered by many to be one of the godfathers to punk. Entirely different approaches to music

73!? He was 75 when this interview took place in 2016.

don't worry you won't you piece of sh-it.

Stay fit. Dress like an aging rock n roll star. You can do it.

Deadpan and ordinary you say. And you mean it as a compliment. Dictionary please . .. also taxi!

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Amen! I totally agree with you. Cale thought it would be frightening living under Trump. Totally delusional and totally removed from reality.

Me 2

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+Robbie Cale i care. that's very very cool.

Very cool!! Lucky you (and him). :)

+Robbie Cale . I'm very interested that you're his son. Have you inherited his love of music and any of his abilities. This whole genetics thing has me fascinated.

You're his son?!

+Robbie Cale We care- how?

I contemplated buying that album today but if it is like Magic and Loss I don't want it.

Magic and loss is a masterpiece, the whole thing

Both are about a death Lou's about a friend ,Bowie's himself.

Lou's was about Doc Pomus, the songwriter.

'Magic and Loss", i have to come to believe , is one of Lou's true masterpeices! Better than New York. It's his late period triumph, and I thought it was underrated but pleased to see all of the love from others!

What a redundant and useless comment...dickhead...

Redundant? Useless? It's true! You'd probably censor it as hate speech, though, wouldn't you?

@@PaulA-ys3yr Censor it? You flatter me, how could I do that? I'd just call it dickhead speech...a bit like your own useless & redundant comment...

Well your fucking lot invaded America in the first place. You should be the first ones to leave!

@@ForARide no, the ones currently "invading" it should of course be the first ones to leave -- not the ancestors of the people that founded the country.

He is such a genius. Soundtrack of my life.

You're so lucky to have seen him play at around that time. I can believe that he was intimidating! But he was heavily into substance abuse in the 70s.

juan baudelaire Yeah, Buffalo Ballet is a beautiful song, and so are Barracuda, Ship Of Fools, Fear Is A Man's Best Friend, etc., but they weren't on Music For A New Society the last time I looked; it's pants. No wonder they featured something from somewhere else.

Music For A New Society isn't pants, Mr.S, neither is it vests, shirts nor hats. Sure, it's maybe just a wee bit agonizing, but I like it!

Your comment can't be topped for pure stupidity!

ForARide whatever BOOMER!

@@Iz0pen whatever Hill Billy, enjoy your lockdown!

Wish that I were he (or a small part of)

@lucy bond Probably because I never met my own dad or had any kind of replacement father figure. It's comically sad but whenever I feel like I could use a bit of paternal wisdom, I watch either Jacques Brel or John Cale interviews ;)

They're jammin'!

Spare us your superfluous trash, low life.

@@MrSKINFLICK Really? You actually made that comment? Amazing.

@@blackmore4 Cale was molested by two different men during his youth, an Anglican priest who molested him in a church and a music teacher. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cale

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Fatty Starbuckle Nah, they just say "Welsh wizard" cuz it's alliterative. Avon, where Merlin lived, is near Wales, but not in it! Although, come to think of it, they are Celtic in that neck of the woods, so there's the Celtic mysticism thing to consider. I give your statement a cautious 30% probability factor.

Mr.Sensitive Dude, don't ruin my fantasy ☹

Fatty Starbuckle I blow my nose with your fantasies!

A true artist. Genuine.

For fuck's sake! A "rear" breed??? He's not gay, you know.

@@SpaceCattttt rarebit, welched encore.

+Art Hughes ?

Indeed!

yes he was.

@@karimtabrizi376 I thought it was the church organist.

@@MisAnnThorpe Yes. Cale was learning to play the organ at the church; his teacher, the organist, molested him during his music lessons. Can’t say I blame Cale for not wanting to go back to Wales.

Steve Fowler If he means "loose cannon", well that's a point in Trump's favour. Would Cale rather have a career politician in the WH, as usual?

Mr.Sensitive well how about now? Great gdp low unemployment high employment low taxes (we are allowed to keep more of OUR money) I for one am grateful for a loose thread non politician. I wish Rock stars and actors would just stay clear of their political views. And oh yeah have ANY stars left the USA? No.

Yes! Newsflash! The ever conscientious and "true blue" Madonna has "fled" to Portugal. Yay!

+Sue DeSimone Ida definitely chosen Wales, to each their own though. Guess he liked NYC. It's a different world there. Closer to work.

+ChameleonLost88 He's been fairly inconsistent on matters like immigration and US military action/foreign policy. Also propagates lies and half-truths in order to pander to certain demographics

Blahahahah ....

Sanders? Are you serious? He is beyond ridiculous Socialist nut case.

+mano fiske Yes, he's fucking serious.

+TheMartini1234 in what way inconsistent?

He sucks

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Why not? He's part of this world.

yea a very small part

Wesley Buirkle Perhaps. How much do you take up?

more than you do moron

Yep

Yeah... your mum must've told you that.

I'd rather give him the Beethoven tag, Mozart is far to lightweight for Cale's musical output.