Livestream recorded on 22 February 2018 at Christ Church Kensington in London where Professor John Lennox spoke about "Why believe in God in a scientific world?". Produced by Andrew Grill actionablefutu...
Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name, thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen.
“How BIG is your God?” This is the question for everyone. Bravo, John! I love the book, The Little Prince, in which are many examples of those who speak authoritatively. They usually have many endless details that keep them BUSY, and to appear knowledgeable, but main provable Godly principles are ignored. Unfortunately, EXPERTS are in vogue. Anyone who has the “outward appearance “, (degrees, a white coat, etc.) the more these people are admired. Jesus said that we must beware of “all kinds of greed”. There is greed of fame, power over others, knowledge, money, greed for many THINGS. Covetousness is another word for it. Spending our time acquiring these THINGS, ignores the need we have for relationships….which God created us for, with Him and with others. People are more impressed with the “outward” than with the “heart”, inward character, love, truth, and living for the relationships with others, and God. “Every good and perfect gift (even our mind) comes down from above, from the Father of heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows.”😊❤
*_“The more I study science, the more I believe in God.”_* --- Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955), founder of modern physics (Theory of Relativity inter alia) and 1921 Nobel prize winner
@Buster Scruggs I'm a creationist. I believe God created as the bible says. I'm not running from that so you're more than welcome to give your science how creation happened naturally. Oh, try not to make me laugh too hard.
@@schmetterling4477 yes, a creationist that has all the science on my side as you have NONE. Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if you want to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation really happened by natural means. Also, throw in how we got the laws of nature, naturally.
*_“All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind (i.e. Observer). This mind is the matrix of all matter.”_* Max Plank (the Father of Quantum Physics) ... It is curious how Max Plank's conclusions were so revolutionary in the field of science / physics (i.e. the immaterial (non-material) reality of nature and "the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind" as the ultimate force behind the fabric of reality). Yet, when microbiologists. biologists, geneticists, biochemists, other scientists, etc. come to the same conclusion (i.e. Intelligence/consciousness/mind is an integral and fundamental force behind the initial introduction and subsequent propagation of biological systems), they are rebuffed as being "unscientific". *Matter cannot exist without physical laws and constants first existing. Physical laws and constants cannot exist without mind / consciousness / intelligence first existing. Mind / consciousness / intelligence is Prime. Mind Exists Before Matter.*
@@schmetterling4477 no, God exists because science proves it. Hre's one of the tons of examples you simply ignore because you don't like science. Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if you want to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation really happened by natural means. Also, throw in how we got the laws of nature, naturally.
DNA code can be equated to a type of computer language. DNA code is more complex than regular computer language in that it is not binary (based on 0 and 1). It is quaternary (based on A T C G). And, as with every known language in existence, confirmed through scientific experiment and observation, is the product of only one thing ... mind/ consciousness /intelligence. ... _"The discovery of the structure of DNA transformed biology profoundly, catalyzing the sequencing of the human genome and engendering a new view of biology as an _*_Information Science_*_ . Two features of DNA structure account for much of its remarkable impact on science: its _*_Digital_*_ nature and its complimentary, whereby one strand of the helix binds perfectly with its partner. DNA has two types of _*_Digital Information_*_ - the genes that _*_Encode_*_ proteins, which are the _*_Molecular Machines_*_ of life, and the _*_Gene Regulatory Networks_*_ that specify the behavior of the genes."_ (Source: Nature Journal, Nature com) _"Language: ALL _*_Digital_*_ communications require a formal language, which in this context consists of all the information that the sender and receiver of the digital communication must both possess, in advance, in order for the communication to be successful."_ (Wikipedia: Digital Data) Modern scientific discoveries in Genetics (i.e. biology) have shown that functional / coded / digital Information (i.e. DNA code) is at the core of *All* Biological Systems. Without functional / coded / digital information, there is NO biology. The only known source (i.e. cause) in the universe that has been Observed in nature to be capable of producing functional / coded / digital information, such as that found even in the most primitive biological systems, is mind / consciousness / intelligence.
*_“… Every one who is seriously engaged in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that the laws of nature manifest the existence of a spirit vastly superior to that of men, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.”_* Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955), founder of modern physics (Theory of Relativity inter alia) and 1921 Nobel prize winner
Due to my handicap - brain damage - There or even over there, doesn't doesn`t make sense! Their is a better word; and its previous word at the beginning of rather long and hopefully, a little humorous sentence!
Believing in God is like traveling with one foot in fantasyland. The Christian authorizes himself to weigh-in as if earth had gravity-free zones. The Christian becomes a victim of his delusions, proceeding to publicly insult intelligence by suggestions we garble thinking, blurring magic & reality. He does this in the name of goodness. He gains meaning for himself by butchering the meaning of words.
First of all ... it's not as if God and science are incompatible. And tell me since when scientists investigate something which is not within their realm? A religious teaching such as "love they neighbor as thyself" hardly fits in a science box. Science cannot prove nor disprove God. So just leave the topic alone.
@@lepidoptera9337 _ Uh, what exactly is an exceeding rare phenomenon? Maybe a Christian teaching such as ... "love thy neighbor as thyself"? The New Testament is full of that sort of teaching. Not exactly "rare."
We all know instinctively, that if we had the power to create a universe, suffering would not exist. Otherwise, we couldn't claim to be perfect, and we certainly would not (in good conscience) expect to be worshiped. I suggest that we have two choices. We can either believe that a creator created a plan where suffering exists in all forms of life ... or ... we can believe that suffering is natural, (survival of the fittest) ... because the universe always existed. I choose the second way of believing.
@@Lestergreen77 As dumb animals, all we can ever expect, is to have opinions, and for lack of evidence, I agree with Stephen Hawking's theory before he died ... “I still believe the universe has a beginning in real time, at the big bang. But there’s another kind of time, imaginary time, at right angles to real time, in which the universe has no beginning or end.”-Stephen Hawking Black Holes and Baby Universes.
@@Lestergreen77 When the Catholic priest Georges Lemaître created the Big Bang theory, it followed that the Big Bang theory would be enmeshed with the idea that the universe was created by a god, as Stephen Hawking learned when he visited the pope. ... "In 1985, I attended a conference on cosmology at the Vatican in Rome. The gathering of scientists had an audience with Pope John Paul II. He told us that it was okay to study the workings of the universe, but we should not ask questions about its origin, for that was the work of God." Stephen Hawking
@@Lestergreen77 Men created images of gods, and pretended that the gods were giving them messages. Yes ... I certainly do prefer Stephen Hawking's theory, over that far-fetched theory of gods talking to humans.
As I marvel at God's creation I am told that nothing made all this from nothing and made it all male and female. How intelligent nothing made us and all it created. Then I am told I don't understand it. I say okay explain it to me please then they take the cowards way out and respond you couldn't comprehend it. I say try me but all I get is crickets. I believe God created the heavens and earth and everything in it in just 6 days.
@@GayorgVonTrapp evolutionist tell us that nothing made everything from nothing. We just happened first the cosmic evolutionist tell us for no reason a dot expanded and poof here is the world the universe and the sun ignited itself and the earth placed itself just the perfect distance from the sun so we don't freeze to death or burn up. Then after millions and billions of years here we are.
@@ronniebuchanan6575 That is not the evolutionary argument at all. Evolution has NOTHING to say about how ‘life’ (definition needed) came about, it only deals with development from that point. What is ‘nothing’ anyway? The current overwhelming consensus is that we are a product of the universe, unplanned, unguided, unplanned…. we are here as a consequence of stars exploding and interstellar activity. No one knows what preceded the ‘big bang’ (or rapid expansion). No one. No one at all.
The law of gravity was discovered by someone who uses the correct understanding that their is someone who cause it in mathematics we might call it if X = God then etc etc. Also e=mc2 was deduced by someone who believes their is some intelligence in the universe. It might be that Hawking's pursuit of the ultimate formula cannot be achieve because they have the wrong assumption of the unknown called X.
The Theory of gravity isn't real on top of it. So much deception in the WORLD AGE led by their one eye 🌞 deity on the surface but behind the scenes its HaSatan they praise in every aspect openly.
Benjamin what a funny guy.. Your calculation are wrong, for There ELOHIM (God) was before Creation like also Before X even existed, like Also Almighty is Much More Then x so can't even God = x like x do Not equal Almighty God. Then you throw 'etc. etc.' etc what? 'hawking's' = hawking is? Or cause hawking say so? Then I tell you mayby you worship wrong 'god' hawking is not, from Hebrew i give you tip is Elohim keep searching one day hopefully you Will find.
*_“… Every one who is seriously engaged in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that the laws of nature manifest the existence of a spirit vastly superior to that of men, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.”_* Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955), founder of modern physics (Theory of Relativity inter alia) and 1921 Nobel prize winner
*_“All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind (i.e. Observer). This mind is the matrix of all matter.”_* Max Plank (the Father of Quantum Physics) ... It is curious how Max Plank's conclusions were so revolutionary in the field of science / physics (i.e. the immaterial (non-material) reality of nature and "the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind" as the ultimate force behind the fabric of reality). Yet, when microbiologists. biologists, geneticists, biochemists, other scientists, etc. come to the same conclusion (i.e. Intelligence/consciousness/mind is an integral and fundamental force behind the initial introduction and subsequent propagation of biological systems), they are rebuffed as being "unscientific". *Matter cannot exist without physical laws and constants first existing. Physical laws and constants cannot exist without mind / consciousness / intelligence first existing. Mind / consciousness / intelligence is Prime. Mind Exists Before Matter.*
*_“… Every one who is seriously engaged in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that the laws of nature manifest the existence of a spirit vastly superior to that of men, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.”_* Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955), founder of modern physics (Theory of Relativity inter alia) and 1921 Nobel prize winner
Unfortunately, you misinterpret the nature of Einstein's god. Here's his quote: "I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with fates and actions of human beings."
@@dennyworthington6641 "What exists" includes the human beings, so the statement is almost meaningless. God should reveal himself in the harmony of all but humans?
"The reason why the single photon does or does not go through the polarizing filter cannot be investigated by experiment, and must be regarded as outside the domain of science" [P.A.M. Dirac, "The principles of Quantum Mechanics", 1930]
"Outside of his field, the scientist is just as dumb as the next chap" This is what I've been saying about scientist who are atheist for years. They're not scientist of religion, their arguments are usually childish, to put it mildly. And some of them are scientist I respect in their fields. Why am I recommended this vid now? Better late than never, I suppose. Oh man. The more I listen to him (halfway now), the more I hear my own thoughts, but much more refined. I would like to call him my grandfather.
Jesus Was Born Incarnate Jesus was born incarnate to a young Jewish virgin, lived a sin free life, was illegally persecuted and then crucified on a cross on Calvary. He arose three days later defeating death and ascended into Heaven where He sits at the right hand of God.. Jesus met with 515 people after His resurrection in a dozen different occasions over a period of about 40 days before He ascended into Heaven. Jesus knew He was entering the world to be the final and ultimate sacrifice for the sin of mankind. His body had been divinely prepared by God specifically for that purpose. Jesus was going to die for the sins of the world, and He knew it. Moreover, He was doing it willfully and joyfully. Jesus came to earth to reveal God to mankind and teach truth. He came to fulfill the Law and offer His kingdom to mankind. He came to show us how to live. He came to reveal God’s love. He came to bring peace. He came to heal the sick. He came to minister to the needy. He was raised in a family who didn't believe in His divinity. He had six half-brothers and two or three half-sisters who didn't believe in His divinity until after His resurrection. What gets me is demons knew His divinity but many men and women of His time didn't. I presume Mary and Joseph knew His divinity. But in Luke 2:49-50 [NKJV] “He said to them, [His earthly parents] “Why did you seek Me? Did you not know that I must be about My Father’s business?” This makes me wonder, did they not understand Jesus' divinity? "But seek first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you." (Matthew 6:33 NKJV) Luke 3:23 states that Jesus was "about 30 years of age" at the start of his ministry. The four Gospels record 37 miracles of Jesus, with Mark's Gospel recording the most. Three New Testament words refer to Jesus's miraclesas power, signs, and wonder. Every miracle of Jesus served a specific purpose in God's plan of salvation for humankind. Jesus' miracles were followed by Jesus forgiving the individuals of their sins and commanding they sin no more. Many of Jesus' miracles were not identified. No other religious leader forgave mankind of their sins. 29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” The Purpose of John’s Gospel “Jesus performed many other signs in the presence of his disciples, which were not recorded in the Bible. But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.” (John 20:29-31 KJV) Our sins separate us from God, and there’s nothing we can do to make things right. So, we need someone to save us from our sins and make us acceptable to God. That someone is Jesus Christ. “Neither is there salvation in any other: for among men there is given no other Name under heaven, whereby we must be saved.” (Acts 4:12 GNV) That’s why God sent Jesus to earth. Jesus’ death on the cross paid for every wrong we’ve ever committed or will commit in the future. Jesus made it possible for us to have a relationship with God the Father. We are sinner from birth and need help, Jesus Christ is that help, our only hope. Therefore by the deeds of the law (Ten Commandments) no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law our sins are recognized not saved. We must confess (repent) of our sins and iniquities before Jesus Christ, at the foot of the cross daily. Jesus said in Matthew 28:19, to His disciples that: “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.” I will not stand before The Great White Throne of God, my sins have been cleansed by Jesus Christ's crucifixion on the cross. And I am clothed in the righteousness of Christ of all my sins and iniquities before-today, today and forever. I Love Jesus Christ and despite of the fact that I'm human and I fail Him daily, I pick up my cross daily and follow Him. I believe that Jesus is the Son of God and that He was crucified on the cross where He died for my sins and inequities and that He rose again on the 3rd day to give me a way through salvation and sanctification, known and unknown. He loves me dearly and has forgiven me of my sins and inequities. His Word says that if I deny Him before men, He will deny me before His Father. Following, I believe are the greatest verses in God's Word. "But seek first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you." (Matthew 6:33 NKJV) “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.” (John 3:16 NKJV) I am a Christ-follower and live in the Kingdom of God on earth in Jesus Christ, my Lord, Savior and Leader. I have faith and trust in the grace and mercy of God for eternal life for my soul in Heaven when I pass from this life into paradise. I proclaim this openly to the world, that I am sinner, that I am sorry for my sins and iniquities and repent of my sins and iniquities and receive Jesus Christ by faith into my heart, mind and soul as my Lord, Savior and Leader. I openly confess Him as Lord from this moment on, I want to follow Him, I pledge to obey Him daily, and read His word. I will include those in my prayers who are lost and have chosen to deny God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit. Our bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit. Jesus Christ declared: “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.” (John 14:6 NKJV) I am in the “Lamb's Book of Life” and will not face “The Great White Throne of God” which leads to Hell. Jesus said: “Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and lean on Me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.” (Matthew 11:28-29 KJV) I actually believe God has accepted me. I'm not worried about the “The Great White Throne” judgment of God. I know that one day I will go to spend a magnificent and fascinating eternity with God and Jesus Christ. Jesus loved me and died for me that's the heart of it and that really is why I am a Christian and not anything else. The grace and glory be to God. God bless
Because today, as of this moment, a man is facing life in prison for defending his mother from home invaders. Such cases under either secular or atheist governances are so prevalents they’re the norm.
Norms. Believing in God is like traveling with one foot in fantasyland. The Christian authorizes himself to weigh-in as if earth had gravity-free zones. The Christian becomes a victim of his delusions, proceeding to publicly insult intelligence by suggestions we garble thinking, blurring magic & reality. He does this in the name of goodness. He gains meaning for himself by butchering the meaning of words.
@@Stupidityindex and yet they would still if they truely are what they say give more resept to the human life in the name of that attempt to be good than the those who lack that orientation would give their fellow man in the name of appearing good and respectful who i would point out are of those like who you critize when you would believe them when they claim to be what they do not act as
If it helps you why not , l chose not to waste my time on things with zero proof it’s just blind faith. The god delusion is a good read if you chose to read it
This is like asking "Why believe in programmers in the age of computers?", "Why believe in authors in a library?", "Why believe in artists in a museum?", and "Why believe in composers at a symphony?" God created the universe; science is the discovery of that creation.
@Buster Scruggs I am using the original Hebrew text of Genesis, which is scholarly usually translated similar to Young's literal translation: "1 In the beginning of God's preparing the heavens and the earth -- 2 the earth hath existed waste and void, and darkness [is] on the face of the deep, and the Spirit of God fluttering on the face of the waters," There is nothing in there about an original creation event. That would have been very unwise for the people who wrote this language under the eyes of their Babylonian or Persian overlords. The text strives for plausible deniability so as to not offend the gods of the occupiers of Judea. And, yes, you are correct. Humanity did NOT know about the actual size of the universe and its composition until the mid 1960s. Not even Einstein had the least freaking clue of how big it was. He died before the cosmic microwave background was even discovered. So, to extend a word "heavens" that did not mean anything else to the Jews than the few thousand stars that they could see to the universe that we know about now is an unhistorical extrapolation. Theologically you are also in trouble here... if mankind is so special, why create such a large space, almost all of which is absolutely hostile to us? Does that make sense for a Jewish creation god who originally only wanted two people to live in a tiny garden with a talking snake?
@@schmetterling4477 no proof of Santa NOR even a natural creation so it's YOU that believes in the unbelievable. Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if you want to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation really happened by natural means. Also, throw in how we got the laws of nature, naturally.
ChangaManga 19:26 Lennox answers this very well. William Lane Craig also states that atheism raises the intellectual price tag of unbelief, that is people are willing to go to ridiculous lengths to try to prove God does not exist so that they would not be held accountable for their actions.
@@synesthete23 Which god does not exist? Vishnu? You better pray to Vishnu or you will have a very unpleasant experience after you die. Vishnu is a very jealous god. ;-)
*_“The more I study science, the more I believe in God.”_* --- Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955), founder of modern physics (Theory of Relativity inter alia) and 1921 Nobel prize winner
Sounds like something that a theist made up. Theists like to make up a lot of things... like the bible, for instance. Now here is a real letter by Einstein: Princeton, 3. 1. 1954 "Dear Mr Gutkind, Inspired by Brouwer's repeated suggestion, I read a great deal in your book, and thank you very much for lending it to me. What struck me was this: with regard to the factual attitude to life and to the human community we have a great deal in common. Your personal ideal with its striving for freedom from ego-oriented desires, for making life beautiful and noble, with an emphasis on the purely human element. This unites us as having an "unAmerican attitude." Still, without Brouwer's suggestion I would never have gotten myself to engage intensively with your book because it is written in a language inaccessible to me. The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weakness, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still purely primitive, legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation, no matter how subtle, can change this for me. For me the Jewish religion like all other religions is an incarnation of the most childish superstition. And the Jewish people to whom I gladly belong, and whose thinking I have a deep affinity for, have no different quality for me than all other people. As far as my experience goes, they are also no better than other human groups, although they are protected from the worst cancers by a lack of power. Otherwise I cannot see anything "chosen" about them. In general I find it painful that you claim a privileged position and try to defend it by two walls of pride, an external one as a man and an internal one as a Jew. As a man you claim, so to speak, a dispensation from causality otherwise accepted, as a Jew the privilege of monotheism. But a limited causality is no longer a causality at all, as our wonderful Spinoza recognized with all incision, probably as the first one. And the animistic interpretations of the religions of nature are in principle not annulled by monopolization. With such walls we can only attain a certain self-deception, but our moral efforts are not furthered by them. On the contrary. Now that I have quite openly stated our differences in intellectual convictions it is still clear to me that we are quite close to each other in essential things, i.e; in our evaluations of human behavior. What separates us are only intellectual "props" and "rationalization" in Freud's language. Therefore I think that we would understand each other quite well if we talked about concrete things. With friendly thanks and best wishes, Yours, A. Einstein"
@@schmetterling4477 note - in that same letter - that Einstein expresses a high regard for Baruch Spinoza; listen to Spinoza in a letter to his friend, Henry Oldenburg, 1675: "I do not think it necessary for salvation to know Christ according to the flesh: but with regard to the Eternal Son of God, that is the Eternal Wisdom of God, which has manifested itself in all things and especially in the human mind, and above all in Christ Jesus, the case is far otherwise. For without this no one can come to a state of blessedness, inasmuch as it alone teaches, what is true or false, good or evil. And, inasmuch as this wisdom was made especially manifest through Jesus Christ, as I have said, his disciples preached it, in so far as it was revealed to them through him, and thus showed that they could rejoice in that spirit of Christ more than the rest of mankind" Who, I ask, can read the sermon on the mount and not acknowledge that it's the product of a sane, rational mind: love your enemies (Matthew, 5.44
The God who created by word with rational results (that is the creation was exactly in line with his word) encourages us that the creation is intelligible and can be investigated because we also have 'words'. We are persons, as is God, although finite and contingent, not self-existing and eternal. But we have the confidence, the faith, if you like, that we can meaningfully investigate anything in the material world and will thereby gain true knowledge of it. By contrast, evolution has given us 'vestigial organs', 'junk' DNA and the magic pond from which life emerged! But back to the creation, the much vexed and misunderstood 'days' of creation serve a very real purpose. They not only place the creation in space-time history, connecting it with us, and showing God present, active and communicating in our world (God's domain overlapping our domain, or 'heaven and earth come together, as NT Wright puts it in a different context) but they place the creation in the real world, not a fantasy world that we have no access to. It is in real, concrete history and we can make sense of it in echo of it being created with rational causality! This is our world, the world we directly know and in which we have communicative access to God (and do not have to deny it to putatively 'find' god or ourselves). It is the world we are created to 'govern': to explore, understand, inhabit and use. No man-made religion has a 'creation' that gives the basis for faith in science, with their capricious limited deities, absent deities, non-personal 'gods'. 'Gods' who must make man as slaves or for companionship, or gods who struggle with evil or gods immersed in the cosmos.
Hawking was an extraordinary person. But that does not mean he created the universe. He did not create and he just was able to figure or dare to assume what the friction of the big truth is about. It would be delusional if he insist he knows all truth behind phenomena that we encounter in the universe. Because as a scientist, he needs absolute evidence for everything. A real genius is someone like John Lennox who is capable of viewing things outside of his own personal boundaries and brings clarity to the deception of our human psyche and language. No wonder he easily recognizes God’s words as divinity unlike words coming from human consciousness. Human are so good at pushing or elevating total nonsense to the disguised perfection which in truth is false.
And you should have told him to thank God for all the millions he sent him while ignoring children starving all over the world John must have been the chosen one
@@mick1gallagher then tell me how God is responsible. The bible clearly explains why there is evil. You didn't read it well if at all. Let's start in verse one about creation, did you make it past that verse about God creating?
I see no reason to believe in a barbaric Hebrew god or his alleged son, described in the Bible. It sounds exactly like a fairy tale rewritten to promote a particular belief.
To paraphrase the speaker “The lie that has been indoctrinated into me is better than the sad truth that you offer. Therefore, I will believe a lie” pathetic.
What strange take on such a profound explanation on the nature of truth and the importance of investigating your own worldview humbly before you judge others.
@@Nathan-eq3zs definition of human (Nathan) is human? You, Mr. Nathan, in your body and mind is a human. If I say anything and you accepted it, is a belief. Truth, anything undeniable is truth. Exp: you are from your mother's womb.
I love John, and I’m not a bonified atheist, but I do believe he is incorrect about one of his main assertions. Agreed science can not provide the answers to the question of our origin or the meaning of our lives. He says religion addresses these questions. I would argue it is possible there is simply no answer to our origin and no meaning to our life. There is just our yearning. This is the burden of humanity, to want something unattainable. This feels like a very grim reality to me, but to leap from ‘science can’t explain it’ to ‘God can explain it’ is quite a leap indeed. There’s no evidence for it being true, other than anecdotal accounts and ancient writings made by more primitive people. Im really not hating, I’ve just been round the houses on this so many times and all I can conclude is God and an afterlife are wishful thinking, nothing more.
Ancient people were not primitive, they lacked knowledge and technology but they were superior in every other way having no genetic degradation and the further you go back the purer the DNA. If you walked into the woods and saw stones on the ground shaped into the word 'hello', you would not say 'wow, this must have formed by the wind blowing for centuries and coincidentally lining up the rocks, you would immediately know there was intelligence involved, well, John is telling you about a word 3.5 billion characters in length that is sequenced with absolute precision, there is your evidence.
@@spamm0145I follow the school of thought that the universe has no beginning. Therefore anything that can happen, no matter how unlikely will eventually happen. With enough time you would randomly see a bunch of stones spelling hello. Infinite monkeys writing on typewriters would write the entire works of Shakespeare etc. I don't like this, but it feels more believable than a magical creative being.
@@OddChap87 Your whole body and all the world is magic. You are just overlooking the magic because of a materialist world view where all seems to operate on mechanics. But what is mechanics if not magic. In other words; matter and mechanics is _exactly_ how magic looks like.
@@schmetterling4477 I accept science not control by goverment institutions what JFK, 2pac, Michael Jackson and many others warn us long time a go, and I Rather Be Educated then Indoctrinated. Explain me existence of Human Zoo in darvin time to force his theory as true? Was one pur african kid with deform teeth and they claim he is prove of missing element to that absurdal theory(oh you didn't know we had human zoo) and mixing evolution with big bang theory before monkey you was some salamander lizard befire that sea creature before that you was some form of bacteria but befire that you was a stone/rock. Human come from rock evolve to monkey and then human, congratulation. Yes thats exacly what that theory teach. Next Show me evidence in science where else other then big bang theory Nothink create Something? (I will expand that topic in seperate comment) Gravity check video: 'Brian Cox visits the world's biggest vacium': mayby no one realize but: Newton's law of gravitation, statement that any particle of matter in the universe attracts any other with a force varying directly as the product of the masses and inversely as the square of the distance between them. Simply they repit there Newton Experiment, but they just suck out whole air. Mass of objects in experiments didn't change, heavier object shall fall down faster then lighter acirding to law of gravity so how come they swich of gravity in that specific place? by sucking air out? Where are those gravity force? They idiot dont realize they just prove Newton was wrong and disprove gravity? Or if so when you see video mayby I miss some infirmation from 'high school' open to listen and be correct if wrong but I dont think so.. Other fact if i will take two ballon and blow one with my ugly mouth and Co2 from my longs, and other with helium, extremely important bouth ballon blow to the amount of same mas for example 1kg. 1kg of Co2 and 1kg helium as helium is lighter probably that ballon will be bigger but weigh are exacky same and when i relise those still helium will fly up Co2 will touch ground, how those go with gravity if bouth object weight the same?
@@schmetterling4477 [science: the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.] With big bang We have problem from very beginning... if whole materia was compress to one point like a SPINNING DOT, and then EXPLODE. What Explode? [TNT is composed of the elements carbon, oxygen and nitrogen. When TNT explodes it forms several covalent gases: CO, CO2 and N2] If so From Where Comeing From rest 94 Chemical Elements? Cause by chemical compound or some other natural chemical reaction you can reach somewhere up to Iron maximum. Then Where coming OBSERVATION or any EXPERIMENT prove bilion? , biliard? or miliard? years ago (cause even that they can't get right) was some "Spinning dot" and Agein: if SO.. If that spin and explode by law of physics everything in universe SHALL SPIN IN THE SAME WAY, why then some planets and natural satellites(moons) turn Opossit direction? Then if expand and continue expanding means our moon getting farther from earth but also that mean in back time need to be closer by taking them measurements thats mean where in time they claim dinosours live moon was so close to earth, what create other problem huge tsunami waves, extremely strong winds, and any life on the planet would be impossible. Saturn rings expands from planet agein going miliard, bilion, biliards years back mean ring of saturn was inside saturn.. And that just beginning.. Shall I continue? (is much more..) big bang theory in one sentence equal: NOTHING CREATE SOMETHING. show me any evidence in science where else :nothink create something: ? On Beggining was God Created Word/UniVerse (We don't know where God come from) On Beginning was Nothing or Materia and by explosion make Word/UniVerse (We don't know where Materia/Nothink come from) Bouth statmens are Religious not Scientific. I waiting for your homework mr.school boy. I wish hear answers on my questions, or intelectual Opossit arguments to THE TOPIC I WILL NOT PLAY ANY PSYCHOLOGICAL GAME LIKE, generaly peopke run from topic and state sentences like yours: you dont go to school, your grammer / orthography are wrong bla bla bla.. First comment I take as Invite to Brain Clash Conversation.. Your Move... and keep your words in Check or I will call Checkmate.
The only reason John believes in God is money God ignores children in Africa starving and being eaten alive by flies but sends lots of money to john isnt this a wonderful God just think about this
Lennox misses the nature of scientific "truth" right off the bat. And he is unaware evidently of Dawkins wonderful appreciation of the arts and literature. Lennox is a boring boor.
Thicko Christians love him because he sounds clever and in their juvenile mind, they think Maths is superior to Dawkins Biology ! It’s like children saying : “ My dads bigger than your dad “ ! My theory about Lennox, is that being an Irishman, he understands Sectarianism. He can’t stand the partisan nature of the modern debate on God v Science and has a profound personal dislike of Richard Dawkins . Lennox is a waffles when it comes to these debates and he relies almost entirely on the gravitas of his position as an Oxford Professor to counterblast the ‘ posh, aloof Englishman , Dawkins ‘ . He just doesn’t like Richard Dawkins . Period.
@@schmetterling4477 ok, so when you're asked how creation happened with God, this is your science how it happened... "Which god? The FSM created all the pasta, long and short, broad and narrow. He also created the meatballs." You admitted you have no science but you're too embarrassed to be honest about it.
@@2fast2block Of course there is no science for creation. Creation never happened. Science only describes things that did happen and are happening right now.
Science is not the way to truth but to knowledge. Lennox is wilfully obfuscaring the point. Truth is a guiding principle! Lennox is just too superstitious and deluded for his own good.
@@gavinhurlimann2910 another deluded clown John is doing very well financially from the God thing but that's what religion is all about ignore the starving but look after the bloated John wonderful god
@@wdcurry111 Knowledge is the result of corroborated theories! Theories can only be corroborated, not proven! Get educated and don't spew your total ignorance in the field of the philosophy of science!
@@wdcurry111 Who is everyone? Your statement is false! You don't know certain words, you dummy! "Everyone knows: Allah, Thor, Zeus, Osiris, Shiva, Vishnu, etc..." Sinning? A concept invented for the morons! You are a backwater imbecile!
