John Mearsheimer | The liberal international order 

Me neither

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@@chrisnamaste3572 average liberal order fan

He is leading us to our demise. He wants to keep China poor? He said this in a public lecture that is being viewed by the world? How can the world respect us if this is the message we send? Playing a zero-sum game and keeping the rest of the world poor will not solve our problems. Blaming China for our problems is childish, dangerous and wrong. There are many factors leading to our decline. The biggest factor is that we are not socialist enough. Automation, A.I., robotics etc. have destroyed many jobs. This drives down wages until it becomes slave wages. This greatly benefits those who control the means of production but screws everyone else. We need to raise taxes on the wealthy. The richest 400 billionaire families in the US paid an average federal individual tax rate of just 8.2 percent. Other country have much higher tax rates and are much happier: Ivory Coast - 60%, Finland - 56.95%, Japan - 55.97%, Denmark - 55.90%, Austria - 55.00%, Sweden - 52.90% and so on. Skyrocketing corporate salaries and bonuses are keeping people poor. Trade with China has been very profitable for the U.S. but the poor never saw a penny from it. Investment firms have turned housing unaffordable leading to crimes and homelessness. The entire health industry is looking to make as much profit as they can. Cities make rules whose sole purpose is to profit off people. Democracy has unfortunately proven to have many flaws. It can easily be bought. It seems designed to get almost nothing done. This is not critical if your country is wealthy, but it has failed many poor countries. All the tiger economies of Asia got their successes during the period when they had a good dictator. When you are poor, you can't afford to be inefficient. Other flaws of democracy includes: the few can take the many hostage(NRA and Christian fundamentalists). It is schizophrenic, with short-term planning that only has profit in mind and not people's well-being being. It is not meritocracy based and stupid people get a say. Stupid people who voted to ignore global warming and voted against socialists policies. Stupid people who elected an unqualified, bombastic politician whose greatest talent is finger-pointing. Multi-party system that has inevitably led to a highly polarized society. Lax drug laws that led to addictions, crimes, and deaths. Endless foreign bases and wars that drain our coffers and turn war mongers into billionaires. Frustrated population with easy access to guns who take their frustrations out on in predictably horrible ways. Echo-chamber free speech that incite hatred and violence to oppositions and scapegoats. Way too many guns on the street making the police trigger-happy. In conclusion, the U.S. has way too many problems that have nothing to do with China. At worst they just hasten our decline a little. Unless we solve these issues, our decline will become inevitable. We need to do some very serious self-reflecting and change our failed policies instead trying to drag other countries down with us. We do not need to play his zero-sum game. There are more than enough resources to go around. We do not need to keep others poor! Food production is 20 times more productive than before. Clean energy has become extremely affordable. The future should seem brighter. So why has it not? It is because we are not spreading the wealth. We should look to the Scandinavian countries who are socialist and democratic. We also need to realize that democracy is a luxury that only the wealthy, powerful and secure can afford. The U.S needs to stop trying to keep its unipolar hegemony and stop trying to spread democracy that is keeping poorer countries poor.

​@@chrisnamaste3572keep sipping in the neo con juice

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He wants to keep China poor? He said this in a public lecture that is being viewed by the world? How can the world ever respect us if this is the message we send? Playing a zero-sum game and keeping the rest of the world poor will not solve our problems. Blaming China for our problems is childish, dangerous and wrong. There are many factors leading to our decline. The biggest factor is that we are not socialist enough. Automation, A.I., robotics etc. have destroyed many jobs. This drives down wages until it becomes slave wages. This greatly benefits those who control the means of production but screws everyone else. We need to raise taxes on the wealthy. The richest 400 billionaire families in the US paid an average federal individual tax rate of just 8.2 percent. Other country have much higher tax rates and are much happier: Ivory Coast - 60%, Finland - 56.95%, Japan - 55.97%, Denmark - 55.90%, Austria - 55.00%, Sweden - 52.90% and so on. Skyrocketing corporate salaries and bonuses are keeping people poor. Trade with China has been very profitable for the U.S. but the poor never saw a penny from it. Investment firms have turned housing unaffordable leading to crimes and homelessness. The entire health industry is looking to make as much profit as they can. Cities make rules whose sole purpose is to profit off people. Democracy has unfortunately proven to have many flaws. It can easily be bought. It seems designed to get almost nothing done. This is not critical if your country is wealthy, but it has failed many poor countries. All the tiger economies of Asia got their successes during the period when they had a good dictator. When you are poor, you can't afford to be inefficient. Other flaws of democracy includes: the few can take the many hostage(NRA and Christian fundamentalists). It is schizophrenic, with short-term planning that only has profit in mind and not people's well-being being. It is not meritocracy based and stupid people get a say. Stupid people who voted to ignore global warming and voted against socialists policies. Stupid people who elected an unqualified, bombastic politician whose greatest talent is finger-pointing. Multi-party system that has inevitably led to a highly polarized society. Lax drug laws that led to addictions, crimes, and deaths. Endless foreign bases and wars that drain our coffers and turn war mongers into billionaires. Frustrated population with easy access to guns who take their frustrations out on in predictably horrible ways. Echo-chamber free speech that incite hatred and violence to oppositions and scapegoats. Way too many guns on the street making the police trigger-happy. In conclusion, the U.S. has way too many problems that have nothing to do with China. At worst they just hasten our decline a little. Unless we solve these issues, our decline will become inevitable. We need to do some very serious self-reflecting and change our failed policies instead trying to drag other countries down with us. We do not need to play his zero-sum game. There are more than enough resources to go around. We do not need to keep others poor! Food production is 20 times more productive than before. Clean energy has become extremely affordable. The future should seem brighter. So why has it not? It is because we are not spreading the wealth. We should look to the Scandinavian countries who are socialist and democratic. We also need to realize that democracy is a luxury that only the wealthy, powerful and secure can afford. The U.S needs to stop trying to keep its unipolar hegemony and stop trying to spread democracy that is keeping poorer countries poor.

She is a clown. this anticommunst hysteria.

Yeah John's a bit too old I think for that question. You look at California and the red carpet they through out for Xi and see that some loony lefties and Democrats are in Cahoots , also just look at Canada. There is alot of corruption and Chinese money spilling into the west. Its the long game with them , they'd prefer it that way and not war which is what the west specialises in.

he put her down 😰 what about billionaires and the UN?

Mearsheimer sounds like a real weirdo when he brags and threatens that the US will treat Australia like a Central American nation - US actions in the western hemisphere have been appalling - nothing to brag about - has he lost his mind

@@LM-ph3cq no offense but america is obsessed with creating unnecessary wars which they could have easily avoided.

@@LM-ph3cq He's not bragging, just stating a fact. Stating a fact is not an endorsement.

pretty much embrace proverty.

Facts: If the Aussies don't side with China, the Chinese don't give a damn but not siding with u.s. are fatal. Who is the real democracy now?? 😁😁

John Mearsheimer is a white supremacist and a racist. His partisan view of the Ukraine vs Russia, in relation to the national security of Russia, is diametrically opposed to that of the national security of China vs USA and its allies.

You’re right, because professor Mearsheimer is an inflexible fool, who believes in an ideology way past its sell by date. International law is much stronger than it was in the 19th century or even the early 20th century.

his point was exactly that, the west expansion to the east even in protest is what led the russians to this point..

This is kind of silly. The USSR was stagnating and just treading water by the 1970s. It couldn't go on the way it did. Gorbachev was just a symptom, not the boogeyman

@@Chris-dj5hy I disagree with you, I was born in USSR and remember “perestroika” times very well. There were too much talks about reforms by Gorbachev, but in reality the reforms were way too slow to make people believe that something changes. The problem of Gorbachev is that he did a lot on foreign relations and political reforms, but failed badly with internal economical reforms, that is why majority distrusted him. So, basically, he killed USSR himself without even realising it. And up to his death he never admitted that. If Gorbachev would move with the economical reforms as fast as with other reforms, USSR would still remain, it would be another China economically, but more democratic politically. Situation when people receive a lot of political freedoms, but are seriously beaten economically usually leads to countries chaos and break up. Libya is another good example.

Mearshiemer loves Russia and ao he knocks China. We should be wary of China but Russia is downright dangerous. He is very prejudiced and supports Russia over China. He always made fun of Ukraine's independence. He is just another guy on Putin's payroll.

Gorbachev is hated by most Russians.

Exactly

The rise of China has a couple corollary that should be noted. The divisions of the American Workers was perhaps due to the shipments of 10's of THOUSANDS OF MANUFACTURING PLANTS TO CHINA. IT IS SAFE BET THAT A SCARCITY OF MANUFACTURING JOBS WAS "NOTICED" BY THE AMERICAN LABOR FORCE. AND THE AMERICAN MANUFACTURING BASE WAS THEREBY HOLLOWED OUT ONE MIGHT SAFELY SAY. WHAT WOULD BE THE EFFECT OF YOUNG MEN TAKING ON TENS OF THOUSANDS OF COLLEGE DEBT FOR ENGINEERING JOBS THAT ARE NOT THERE ANYMORE? Might one argue that white men that wanted to get high pay for engineering were a bit upset and went over to the Donald Trump Insurgency Party? And with the reduced income due to flipping burgers in fast food this put a slump in the national debt, not to mention the housing market? We are still not out of this F******* Dislocation in our lives.

Terrible lecture. He will lead us to our demise.He wants to keep China poor? He said this in a public lecture that is being viewed by the world? How can the world respect us if this is the message we send? Playing a zero-sum game and keeping the rest of the world poor will not solve our problems. Blaming China for our problems is childish, dangerous and wrong. There are many factors leading to our decline. The biggest factor is that we are not socialist enough. Automation, A.I., robotics etc. have destroyed many jobs. This drives down wages until it becomes slave wages. This greatly benefits those who control the means of production but screws everyone else. We need to raise taxes on the wealthy. The richest 400 billionaire families in the US paid an average federal individual tax rate of just 8.2 percent. Other country have much higher tax rates and are much happier: Ivory Coast - 60%, Finland - 56.95%, Japan - 55.97%, Denmark - 55.90%, Austria - 55.00%, Sweden - 52.90% and so on. Skyrocketing corporate salaries and bonuses are keeping people poor. Trade with China has been very profitable for the U.S. but the poor never saw a penny from it. Investment firms have turned housing unaffordable leading to crimes and homelessness. The entire health industry is looking to make as much profit as they can. Cities make rules whose sole purpose is to profit off people. Democracy has unfortunately proven to have many flaws. It can easily be bought. It seems designed to get almost nothing done. This is not critical if your country is wealthy, but it has failed many poor countries. All the tiger economies of Asia got their successes during the period when they had a good dictator. When you are poor, you can't afford to be inefficient. Other flaws of democracy includes: the few can take the many hostage(NRA and Christian fundamentalists). It is schizophrenic, with short-term planning that only has profit in mind and not people's well-being being. It is not meritocracy based and stupid people get a say. Stupid people who voted to ignore global warming and voted against socialists policies. Stupid people who elected an unqualified, bombastic politician whose greatest talent is finger-pointing. Multi-party system that has inevitably led to a highly polarized society. Lax drug laws that led to addictions, crimes, and deaths. Endless foreign bases and wars that drain our coffers and turn war mongers into billionaires. Frustrated population with easy access to guns who take their frustrations out on in predictably horrible ways. Echo-chamber free speech that incite hatred and violence to oppositions and scapegoats. Way too many guns on the street making the police trigger-happy. In conclusion, the U.S. has way too many problems that have nothing to do with China. At worst they just hasten our decline a little. Unless we solve these issues, our decline will become inevitable. We need to do some very serious self-reflecting and change our failed policies instead trying to drag other countries down with us. We do not need to play his zero-sum game. There are more than enough resources to go around. We do not need to keep others poor! That will only turn other countries against us. Food production is 20 times more productive than before. Clean energy has become extremely affordable. The future should seem brighter. So why has it not? It is because we are not spreading the wealth. We should look to the Scandinavian countries who are socialist and democratic. We also need to realize that democracy is a luxury that only the wealthy, powerful and secure can afford. The U.S needs to stop trying to keep its unipolar hegemony and stop trying to spread democracy that is keeping poorer countries poor.

Those countries have no real sovereignty...they are just vassals of the USA!!those societies that are known as the West have been carefully engineered to accept this liberal vision and order as the norm...just like many of the political leaders are trained, picked and chosed to act accordingly since a very young age!!Any dissident country, voices, political leaders or parties will be demonized, silenced and crushed!!

China can't rival American hitech innovation and entrepreneurialism

@@Joekd6.1 you are so funny

Well said

👍 👌 well said. Australia needs to think about itself, else just look at Europe today and that will be Australia in the future.

​@@Joekd6.1 You're living in 2010. We're now in the year of 2023.

Terrible lecture. He will lead us to our demise.He wants to keep China poor? He said this in a public lecture that is being viewed by the world? How can the world respect us if this is the message we send? Playing a zero-sum game and keeping the rest of the world poor will not solve our problems. Blaming China for our problems is childish, dangerous and wrong. There are many factors leading to our decline. The biggest factor is that we are not socialist enough. Automation, A.I., robotics etc. have destroyed many jobs. This drives down wages until it becomes slave wages. This greatly benefits those who control the means of production but screws everyone else. We need to raise taxes on the wealthy. The richest 400 billionaire families in the US paid an average federal individual tax rate of just 8.2 percent. Other country have much higher tax rates and are much happier: Ivory Coast - 60%, Finland - 56.95%, Japan - 55.97%, Denmark - 55.90%, Austria - 55.00%, Sweden - 52.90% and so on. Skyrocketing corporate salaries and bonuses are keeping people poor. Trade with China has been very profitable for the U.S. but the poor never saw a penny from it. Investment firms have turned housing unaffordable leading to crimes and homelessness. The entire health industry is looking to make as much profit as they can. Cities make rules whose sole purpose is to profit off people. Democracy has unfortunately proven to have many flaws. It can easily be bought. It seems designed to get almost nothing done. This is not critical if your country is wealthy, but it has failed many poor countries. All the tiger economies of Asia got their successes during the period when they had a good dictator. When you are poor, you can't afford to be inefficient. Other flaws of democracy includes: the few can take the many hostage(NRA and Christian fundamentalists). It is schizophrenic, with short-term planning that only has profit in mind and not people's well-being being. It is not meritocracy based and stupid people get a say. Stupid people who voted to ignore global warming and voted against socialists policies. Stupid people who elected an unqualified, bombastic politician whose greatest talent is finger-pointing. Multi-party system that has inevitably led to a highly polarized society. Lax drug laws that led to addictions, crimes, and deaths. Endless foreign bases and wars that drain our coffers and turn war mongers into billionaires. Frustrated population with easy access to guns who take their frustrations out on in predictably horrible ways. Echo-chamber free speech that incite hatred and violence to oppositions and scapegoats. Way too many guns on the street making the police trigger-happy. In conclusion, the U.S. has way too many problems that have nothing to do with China. At worst they just hasten our decline a little. Unless we solve these issues, our decline will become inevitable. We need to do some very serious self-reflecting and change our failed policies instead trying to drag other countries down with us. We do not need to play his zero-sum game. There are more than enough resources to go around. We do not need to keep others poor! That will only turn other countries against us. Food production is 20 times more productive than before. Clean energy has become extremely affordable. The future should seem brighter. So why has it not? It is because we are not spreading the wealth. We should look to the Scandinavian countries who are socialist and democratic. We also need to realize that democracy is a luxury that only the wealthy, powerful and secure can afford. The U.S needs to stop trying to keep its unipolar hegemony and stop trying to spread democracy that is keeping poorer countries poor.

in the context of IR, he means the state and only the state

Exactly. Western stripped out their own manufacturing centers only to enrich and enable China.

Neither does America about China. China is all about the prosperity of the Chinese people. America is all about its oligarchic elite.

John Roberts well said

Two good points: Point 1 it's already here, whereas the 2nd pt. may well come true one day.

Hence the break with Chinese tariffs and the flowing back of manufacturers.

Gold reserves. The USA has the largest gold reserves in the world at 8000 + tonnes. I believe that the Federal Reserve will be retired, and the US and other countries will go back to gold backed currencies. In that case, Australia will be well placed as the second largest gold producer with the highest individual reserves. www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2018/07/05/top-10-countries-with-largest-gold-reserves/#19b362153349

it is simple - for US democracy is simply a cheap method of control of subordinate countries. It is much easier to control 2 main parties in each country (effectively just top echelons of those parties) and flow of information in main media outlets than keeping everyone under the gun.

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Terrible lecture. He will lead us to our demise. He wants to keep China poor? He said this in a public lecture that is being viewed by the world? How can the world respect us if this is the message we send? Playing a zero-sum game and keeping the rest of the world poor will not solve our problems. Blaming China for our problems is childish, dangerous and wrong. There are many factors leading to our decline. The biggest factor is that we are not socialist enough. Automation, A.I., robotics etc. have destroyed many jobs. This drives down wages until it becomes slave wages. This greatly benefits those who control the means of production but screws everyone else. We need to raise taxes on the wealthy. The richest 400 billionaire families in the US paid an average federal individual tax rate of just 8.2 percent. Other country have much higher tax rates and are much happier: Ivory Coast - 60%, Finland - 56.95%, Japan - 55.97%, Denmark - 55.90%, Austria - 55.00%, Sweden - 52.90% and so on. Skyrocketing corporate salaries and bonuses are keeping people poor. Trade with China has been very profitable for the U.S. but the poor never saw a penny from it. Investment firms have turned housing unaffordable leading to crimes and homelessness. The entire health industry is looking to make as much profit as they can. Cities make rules whose sole purpose is to profit off people. Democracy has unfortunately proven to have many flaws. It can easily be bought. It seems designed to get almost nothing done. This is not critical if your country is wealthy, but it has failed many poor countries. All the tiger economies of Asia got their successes during the period when they had a good dictator. When you are poor, you can't afford to be inefficient. Other flaws of democracy includes: the few can take the many hostage(NRA and Christian fundamentalists). It is schizophrenic, with short-term planning that only has profit in mind and not people's well-being being. It is not meritocracy based and stupid people get a say. Stupid people who voted to ignore global warming and voted against socialists policies. Stupid people who elected an unqualified, bombastic politician whose greatest talent is finger-pointing. Multi-party system that has inevitably led to a highly polarized society. Lax drug laws that led to addictions, crimes, and deaths. Endless foreign bases and wars that drain our coffers and turn war mongers into billionaires. Frustrated population with easy access to guns who take their frustrations out on in predictably horrible ways. Echo-chamber free speech that incite hatred and violence to oppositions and scapegoats. Way too many guns on the street making the police trigger-happy. In conclusion, the U.S. has way too many problems that have nothing to do with China. At worst they just hasten our decline a little. Unless we solve these issues, our decline will become inevitable. We need to do some very serious self-reflecting and change our failed policies instead trying to drag other countries down with us. We do not need to play his zero-sum game. There are more than enough resources to go around. We do not need to keep others poor! That will only turn other countries against us. Food production is 20 times more productive than before. Clean energy has become extremely affordable. The future should seem brighter. So why has it not? It is because we are not spreading the wealth. We should look to the Scandinavian countries who are socialist and democratic. We also need to realize that democracy is a luxury that only the wealthy, powerful and secure can afford. The U.S needs to stop trying to keep its unipolar hegemony and stop trying to spread democracy that is keeping poorer countries poor.

Sounds like you've found your God! And, fun fact, countless conspiracy theories are true. Time and time again, it's one of history's most consistent facts. Thus you blind yourself to the truth, and worship authority and distrust what is plainly obvious.

I agree. It's time for Canada to step up, along with Belgium.

No other state has the geopolitical heft that is required to even attempt to engage in that kind of enterprise. If the EU undergoes further integration and turns into a bona fide state, it could attempt that. It would need a significant military buildup though

@@dex216sims I hoped for that, European Russian integration

America, is noted in the Bible as one of the world powers that will work alongside the Roman church to bring a one world order into existence, it’s been prophesied thousands of years ago. Only a fool would say there’s no God?

Did it ever occur to you that some countries DON'T WANT liberal democracy? What do you do then?

I stretched my neck several times towards the edge of the screen where I expected the slide to show up any moment - while the lecturer was pointing to it. On the other hand, You must admit that Mearsheimer, grining mischieviously and jumping from one side of the podium to the other like 'Rumpelstiltskin' is a sight to behold...

Of course, he made the mistake of presenting boring slides that send people to sleep. There should be minimum writing on slides. Just a few points and pictures, with full attention on the speaker.

He’s telling you what the thesis is, the slides are talking points. Listen to the human!

@@boss390 Yes, *listen* to the speaker, but you'll mainly look at the slides. Just watch a live audience some day. Especially when slides have graphs etc, the speaker will be addressing the graphs. If not, the slides are just a distraction.

@@christophmahler Sure, if you're interested in the speaker's personality and appearance more than his thesis, then watch him more than his slides.

I am 22 and watching

Abd living in terror, and being race washed

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It is ruler-based order.

Black or white "diplomacy" at 37:34 ... That's the thing I don't like about the USA, they always do that heavy thing of "YOU'RE EITHER WITH US OR YOU'RE AGAINST US!". If not we'll take you out because you must be with the other guy now, with no room for Australian negotiations with other nations when things get difficult for US foreign policy, and regardless of what kind of positive relationship Australia has had with them in the past going back to WWII. I don't like communism or fascism, but threats from "friends" (especially "gorillas" as he calls the USA) sounds weird, especially when you hear it actually said inside your own country from an American. I get that being overtaken by a Chinese military/political power on Australian soil in effect becoming a new southern China province would be the end of Australia as we knew it. Basically it would suck big time. I can't speak Chinese, I don't like Chinese food, don't like Chinese made cars, they do make good underwear at an affordable price though, but we don't need a take over to still have those things. I think that's why Australia chooses the USA when it comes to security, the better known of the three gorillas on the globe, but economically we like China just as much.

I couldn't agree with you more. The Rules Based Order is based on a Neoliberal economic order which in reality allows corporations and investors to dominate the economy of other nations and plunders their resources and exploits their labor force. The democracy becomes a shame as the powerful dominate the governments. It's been going on in the USA since the Reagan Revolution which destroyed the concept of the government being a countervailing power to the power the power of Wall Street and Corporate America. Billy Clinton got the Democratic party to buy into Neoliberal economic beliefs and our workforce has been crushed and we workers have no political party looking our for our interest.

@@bradford_shaun_murray Yes, my country, the USA, wants "our friends" to become vassal states and follow our lead with no consideration for "our friends " own national interests. Our leaders have become so arrogant that they act as though our country is God's gift to the world. Our media has become simply a propaganda arm of our leaders as average Americans are getting smacked around also.

@@philipangelo595 That is why the United States of America is badly in need of another revolution. The present order isn't going to cut it.

The biggest problem I see in the world besides the fact that they don't try to sit down at the negotiating table is the fact that if one country get strong economically or militarily and does not pose any threat to the world another country wants to start a war change culture and then you wonder why we are at war I don't know if you believe in God but we're in the last chapter of the Bible and whether you believe in God or not this is all going to come to an end because God will not let this happen watch longer he warned us two thousand years ago nothing good coming true in our life time God bless from the USA right and wrong you cannot change people's culture and lifestyle it's not right God bless

Not in terms of Russia, he’s not.

Ouch! Your thinking is completely upside down. The progressive, globalist liberals of today are not classical liberals. They are contra Western hegemony and are behind one of the largest ethnic cleansing movements taking place today.

Didn't think to see you here but I should have known. Keep up the good work.

Coincidence?

He wants to keep China poor? He said this in a public lecture that is being viewed by the world? How can the world ever respect us if this is the message we send? Playing a zero-sum game and keeping the rest of the world poor will not solve our problems. Blaming China for our problems is childish, dangerous and wrong.

@@neilbohrs5990 He cares about the American Hegemony and only that. Is keeping China poor more sinister than bomb weddings in Iraq and steal oil in Syria, and propping up banana republics? Who is going to say "well that's wrong"? Remember if things goes his way and kept China poor, there won't be a China to rival America economically, which turns into funding Russia.