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John Vervaeke: The Cognitive Science of Home: Home-Range, Home-Base, Hearth-Hospital 

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The full title is: The Cognitive Science of Home: Belonging to the Home Range, Orienting from the Home Base, and Growing up around the hearth-hospital
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Комментарии : 79   
@climbingmt.sophia
@climbingmt.sophia Год назад
For me, this was the most transformative engagement with John's work I've tasted. And there have been so many
@gettingtogive
@gettingtogive Год назад
Could not agree more Ken! Looking forward to your next dialogue with D.C Schindler too
@gregorywitcher5618
@gregorywitcher5618 Год назад
It is around the hearth which meals are prepared and shared. I want to hear more about John’s Aunt. His adopted mother, as he called her. He has been cooking at the hearth she had stoked for him. I feel his whole talk was about the love of and for his Aunt and the Home he has between there and here.
@fiddlefancier
@fiddlefancier Год назад
Hit the nail on the head. I’m 67 and thought I had it all figured out. Wrong! Old age is all about not belonging.
@kathleenthompson9566
@kathleenthompson9566 Год назад
This is brilliant, mostly easy to understand, even with the complex subject matter, and humorous. Thank you, John. An apt complement to what has gone before. Much to consider here when I put the 4 of these talks together. I can only imagine what happened live.
@peterrosqvist2480
@peterrosqvist2480 Год назад
One of the best talks I’ve heard from John, this is absolutely insightful and he’s managed to articulate some of the most deeply important problems I’ve had to face. “I do not belong” to “I must find the unconditional way to solve this problem”, John has managed to bring out something that I have been longing for.
@danielfolgado
@danielfolgado Год назад
Paul, thank you so much for providing these talks online. It’s hard to believe that we have such easy access to such reality shaping conversations like this one. Absolutely brilliant.
@EmJay2022
@EmJay2022 Год назад
We as humans need to feel valued and loved; otherwise, we fall apart. If a child is referred to as a "mistake" by their parents, it causes that child great pain and leads them to feel marginalized. Is it then a wonder that our society lacks connectedness and meaning when popular science through the theory of evolution basically tells us that we are all unintended consequences? The truth is that the theory of evolution isn't science; it's psychology, and a CogSci professor should have no trouble seeing that.
@joe42m13
@joe42m13 Год назад
Evolution is literally observable: there are bacteria studies tracking thousands of generations as they mutate and adapt. It's not just hard biology, but literal fact. The interesting questions are in how selection pressure works, and in what ways genes and mutations are triggered in the first place
@EmJay2022
@EmJay2022 Год назад
@@joe42m13 Are they still bacteria? My point is, mutations or trait variations within a population of organisms over successive generations is not scientifically proven to lead to the eventual transmutation of that organism. You can go back and forth on the supposed science but the bottom line for me is, why does recorded human history not extend further back than 5000 years?
@joe42m13
@joe42m13 Год назад
@EmJay821 because that's when the oldest known form of writing is from. You can't really effectively date oral tradition, but evidence for anatomically modern humans goes back tens of thousands of years, possibly hundreds. Not really sure what your issue is.
@EmJay2022
@EmJay2022 Год назад
@@joe42m13 Today is the year 5783 according to the Jewish calendar. Their religion seems to have believed that is the actual age of the earth which many still maintain today. Do you think they have been wrong this entire time and that humanity, after millions of years, spontaneously discovered the ability to write only 5,000 years ago? Sounds like a bit of a stretch to me.
@joe42m13
@joe42m13 Год назад
@EmJay821 Yes. The 6000-year-old earth theory is factually incorrect. When you try to explain your creation Myth through modern empirical science, you inevitably sacrifice the integrity of either the myth or the science.
@mcmosav
@mcmosav Год назад
The final boss of TLC appears…
@Beatsbeebur
@Beatsbeebur Год назад
😂😂😂
@gettingtogive
@gettingtogive Год назад
What a transformative hour that was, utterly brilliant. Thank you to all who made it happen 🙏
@Ykpaina988
@Ykpaina988 Год назад
Excellent performance 🎭. See also Heidegger’s building dwelling Being. Zoom out far enough and the microcosm becomes the macrocosm that great Gadsby insight was on point about my journey in America 🇺🇸 that book afforded me a great relevance realisation .
@UpCycleClub
@UpCycleClub Год назад
Hearth ❤‍🔥shoutout!
@fiddlefancier
@fiddlefancier Год назад
Also the place of domesticity, the receptacle of resources and survival skills.
@Ykpaina988
@Ykpaina988 Год назад
John is right to use the term optimal grip because Plato himself was a champion wrestler 🤼‍♀️ 😂🎉
@Ykpaina988
@Ykpaina988 Год назад
Does this talk at mention Heideggers concept of Building and Dwelling in a home as Dasein always belongs to a home before cognition and dwells in a home and is returning to a home ? Ancient home current home future home . Axial modern Heaven . Peace
@I4MWH014M
@I4MWH014M Год назад
I realized now listening for the second time, this isn't "Science" the way the modern zeitgeist thinks of it. It's too narrative, too much of a story to be that. But for that reason it has much more force to the understanding it brings. Thank you for sharing pastor Paul
@GeistGuard
@GeistGuard 7 месяцев назад
Excellent. In this age, it is easier than ever before to encounter stiff resistance towards the divine inclination to cease all grasping, as never before in the course of human history has the world, and all it offers, been made manifest in the hand of every person, poor or rich, servant or free.
@hamedmoradi5291
@hamedmoradi5291 Год назад
It can be said that an ideology provides people with a false refuge and a false prospect.
@apowave
@apowave Год назад
This reminds me of a Jacob Collier talk he gave about ‘home’. In music home is the one cord or the first note of the scale. It is the reference point from which a piece of music is centered.
@matthewkilbride1669
@matthewkilbride1669 Год назад
That’s the most animated I’ve seen John, specifically meaning being a bit silly along the way.
@sunrhyze
@sunrhyze Год назад
I tend to drift off a lot, and also generally refuse to watch anything more than once, so I gave up on the meaning crisis lectures after episode 42, but I understood this entire thing! Really appreciated the inclusion of JV in this get-together, despite the fact that he used part of his hour to send the cold current of dread through us regarding our looming AI overlords.
@SophroniaAlba
@SophroniaAlba Год назад
It was great to see a humorous side to JV in this one.
@vixendixon6943
@vixendixon6943 Год назад
Mind wanders looking for "Self" within to nourish and NonSelf to challenge
@ProfesserLuigi
@ProfesserLuigi Год назад
22:32 I mind wander about Pete Seeger! ;-;
@kk215487965
@kk215487965 Год назад
John did it again, one of his best talks. When you listen to it, you can see how seriously he cares about this. It is amazing to watch.
@anselman3156
@anselman3156 Год назад
Someone is going to make up a dance video from this!
@vixendixon6943
@vixendixon6943 Год назад
You can see the moves of the dance when you speed it up.. I think it needs to be a group dance.. Line dancing?
@anselman3156
@anselman3156 Год назад
@@vixendixon6943 Round the campfire or hot tub at the next gathering! I was just chatting with Dali on Grim Griz's channel. She is going to draw him doing the dance.
@vixendixon6943
@vixendixon6943 Год назад
@@anselman3156 🙂🙃
@kbeetles
@kbeetles Год назад
The stance he is looking for - something tells me - is prostrating before the Divine.
@EmJay2022
@EmJay2022 Год назад
I'm curious, Anselman. As the resident fundamentalist, how do you feel about a non-Christian/Buddhist influencing and even, dare I say, leading TLC?
@dalibofurnell
@dalibofurnell Год назад
Yay! Finally! 3rd! John, thank you. As always, grateful for your work 🙏 God bless your heart ❤️
@vixendixon6943
@vixendixon6943 Год назад
Repetition Repetition Repetition!!
@willitneverend
@willitneverend Год назад
So many insights delivered with grace, good humour, and love. After listening to John Vervaeke, I feel maybe I have a slightly greater perspective to better help myself and those I love in these times. At the same time, he shows how essential and massive this undertaking is. I often doubt I am up to it.
@TheDrb27
@TheDrb27 Год назад
“we start to really start to heal each other when we're sick when we're wounded and that again seems as the natural thing to do for you it's not” 36:18
@KalebPeters99
@KalebPeters99 Год назад
​@truly blessed For most organisms, this isn't nearly as much the case as for humans.
@TheMeditatingPhilosopher
@TheMeditatingPhilosopher Год назад
I love seeing a philosopher talk about our relationship to existence who invokes the sense of the sacred, profane, thoughtful, and personal in a way I can understand and enjoy, especially who expands one's capacity to be, think, and act.
@GRIFFIN1238
@GRIFFIN1238 Год назад
John continues to give us so much. God bless you, John.
@mattray2728
@mattray2728 Год назад
Indeed. Vervaekean 4e (6e) is a term I have even adopted...lol
@gregorywitcher5618
@gregorywitcher5618 Год назад
For those who may wish to “e-know”, what are those 6 E’s?
@mattray2728
@mattray2728 Год назад
@@gregorywitcher5618 embodied, embedded, enacted, extended (JV's mentioned exapted, emotional)
@gregorywitcher5618
@gregorywitcher5618 Год назад
@@mattray2728 many thanks from me and others in the Comments Section
@mattray2728
@mattray2728 Год назад
@@gregorywitcher5618 this comment section is a little corner of peace in a clownishly turbulent existence today..
@mohameddiouf3123
@mohameddiouf3123 Год назад
Wow didn't think John could take it to the next level but he was on fire on this one. Very engaging 🔥
@vixendixon6943
@vixendixon6943 Год назад
❤❤❤
@TheJuno1984
@TheJuno1984 Год назад
This is great Vervaeke talk, I would say in measure of impactfulness very petersonesk delivery :) Thank you all for this special event.
@yoganandavalle
@yoganandavalle Год назад
like a proper preacher, in a good way, I mean Peterson is a preacher more than anything.
@vixendixon6943
@vixendixon6943 Год назад
I'd like to think that I carry my Homebase with me so Home range becomes Free Range!
@peterrosqvist2480
@peterrosqvist2480 Год назад
What are some examples of the organism changing the environment and this niche construction?
@BobWangwenyi23
@BobWangwenyi23 Год назад
Powerdul stuff!!!
@anselman3156
@anselman3156 Год назад
I bet Vixen's beat me
@PaulVanderKlay
@PaulVanderKlay Год назад
Nope, Gold for Anselman
@anselman3156
@anselman3156 Год назад
@@PaulVanderKlay Yay!!!
@vixendixon6943
@vixendixon6943 Год назад
​@@anselman3156 "Yeah but No but" as Vicky Pollard would say 😂😂😂
@anselman3156
@anselman3156 Год назад
@@vixendixon6943 I'm not one to gloat, but Nah nah ne nah na! Can't believe my luck. I accept this award in honour of all habitual runners up, and with thanks to the Queen for her inspiring accomplishments.
@vixendixon6943
@vixendixon6943 Год назад
​@@anselman3156 Three Cheers for The favourite Knight of The Realm.. Hip Hip Hurrah!!!
@leedufour
@leedufour Год назад
Thanks John and Paul!
@williambranch4283
@williambranch4283 Год назад
Insight comes from maturity nurtured in the right community ... if it is meant to be. You can't push a rope. Not everyone is chosen.
@mostlynotworking4112
@mostlynotworking4112 Год назад
I’ll settle for fifth
@vixendixon6943
@vixendixon6943 Год назад
For Today?
@PoesieUndGlaube
@PoesieUndGlaube Год назад
There were a lot of ads in this talk Paul.😅
@PaulVanderKlay
@PaulVanderKlay Год назад
Ad blocker or yt premium or the audio podcast which has no ads
@acuerdox
@acuerdox Год назад
20:10 what happened here?
@antkcuck
@antkcuck Год назад
1hr 10s logos as central flame
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