Her telling him she loves him right after yelling at him and insulting him and then telling him to calm down when he's speaking perfectly calmly is truly scary and so clearly emotionally abusive
Put it this way. Depp had no idea he was being recorded yet he kept pretty calm and reasonable. Heard actually knew that their conversation was being recorded yet she was still lolsing control of her emotions
Indeed, all of the recordings and still no evidence that Johnny laid a hand on her. Plenty of evidence of him trying to leave the situation but no e of him hurting her.
Lol already full of themselves they'll prolly be like "oOoOo i get a month outta the year" pray they don't act out more than usual if they start this type of month lol most likely not cause then I'm sure everyone will push for a month such as (stress , Tourette (can't spell it but the ones that have a tick and curse repeatedly) , OCD or whatever u get the point I'm sure lol but Yea that's imo if anything I'd think they'd somehow hype themselves up cause of it ofc it's for all the wrong reasons but I'm sure with how society is they'd embrace it and make it right or turn the mfkin tables as usual and make it alllll about themselves in the most "righteous" way 🤦♀️🙄 lol
This woman is a total monster. I can't see how any Jury could possibly side with her case after everything that's been exposed. This is the type of person who will eat people alive, because the control is deeply empowering to them. This trial exposes years of premeditation, manipulation, and malignant gaslighting from Heard, to a level that could easily be considered psychopathic (thanks, Ashten Chambliss). I am in awe.
Jessica was the absolute best person to lead Johnny through this horrific testimony. her voice is soothing, calm and encouraging throughout the trial.....she gets him 100%. I don't know who made the decisions, but she was the perfect pairing.
The recording of him telling her he needed to leave.. she is gaslighting so much. For her to say this was not an argument and to try and keep him there by making him feel like he was in the wrong… I feel so bad for him. She’s manipulative.
I don't know what gaslighting is but i do know when telling someone they aren't smart enough to use it correctly in their comment means and that is some people feel the need to remind others they are better than them. It's a form making themselves feel better than others when in fact, they are feeling lesser. I hope you are okay and I am here if you need someone.
@@dreamingtree6093 telling him it's not an argument while arguing is definitely gaslighting. Convincing someone that their experiences are false is an attempt to force them to question their reality and their emotions wich is to say their sanity. (Ie. gaslighting by definition)
It must be so hard to sit on the witness stand and relive what are essentially all the worst moments of your life and marriage. So much courage. the truth is so obvious at this point
Amber Heard was only with Johnny to better her career, that is it! He so did not deserve to be sucked in by her and then shes tried to ruin him. He is so much more then all of this!!! The amount she had asked for divorce settlement was rediculous! She was in Aquaman only because of Johhny! She is NOTHING!!! A NOBODY!!!
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People need to understand it's the first time that he has ever gotten the opportunity to express himself. He has always been awkward and slow while speaking as we can see it from his interviews but here he's also being extra thoughtful about what exactly he is speaking because his EVERY word counts.
I love Johnny for saying I love you but I love me more it’s so hard to admit that the person you love may not be good for you but the amount of courage it takes to walk away is insane. So proud of him I hope he gets the justice he deserves
She’s crazy. Because he doesn’t “fight back” the exact way she demands he fights back, then he’s abusive according to her. When in fact, it’s her being relentless and harassing. She can’t stand it when he leaves the situation. It drives her crazy to point of escalation of violence on her part.
That's because it was a setup . Her plan was to antagonise him into violence yet over 20 recordings n not one of him hurting her . The intent was for her n her friends to set him up n take he's fortune .
She's very controlling and abusive. I experience this every single day and when I get home I go right up to my bedroom and do NOT interact or engage with the toxic person in my life. And....of course then I'm accused of ignoring her and am considered a horrible person. All I'm trying to do is avoid being degraded, diminished, made to feel ugly, and not good enough...just trying to protect myself. So I completely GET why JD walks away from those arguments. I do the same thing. It's a trauma response.
The only fight JD pursued was the fight to escape the pain and suffering he endured for so long - I’m so happy he had the opportunity to share his truth, clear his name and reclaim all that AH tried so hard to psychologically, physically and mentally destroy! I hope the truth brings JD the peace he deserves!
Just hearing her in these short audio clips makes me feel like I’M trapped and need to get away myself, I can’t imagine dealing with her on a daily basis. She’s so demanding, manipulative, manic, and she pushed his buttons constantly. Then she would turn on the charm, say sweet things, and reel him back in. It should be clear to the jury what happened here, and she’s definitely the abusive one. He tried in every way to get away, to make it stop.
And then secretly recording him after he's had enough and then he's the crazy abusive one! I almost puked looking at her smug and smirking face trying to look like an innocent secretary in her glasses. She doesn't fool me. I can read her like a book.
I just wish that they had the good sense to settle things privately. Clearly the biggest winners here are the lawyer's pay checks on both sides and sadly the biggest loser's are going to be their families and especially so his children.
_"You can please tell people that it was a fair fight and see what the jury and judge think. Tell the world Johnny! Tell them Johnny Depp... I, Johnny Depp, "man," I'm a victim too of domestic violence and I... ya know, it was a fair fight; and see how many people believe or side with you!"_ -Amber Heard's last words (RIP to her career that I wasn't familiar with). Edit: 56:25 Tell 'em, Johnny!! I believe & side with Johnny 🖤
I stand with Johnny 💯% My heart goes out to him as I have suffered similarities to what he went through, and I very much admire his strength and courage to continue fighting for what's right
That psycho had the ultimate CHANCE to be with him, to be loved by HIM. And she treated him like that?! So many women would have loved to be in her place. She was too self centered to even realize the chance she had. I can’t wrap my head around it!! I feel so sorry for him and it’s so sad to see him so hurt and broken 😢
I REMEMBER DOING THE TRIAL THAT PEOPLE WERE AGAINST JOHNNY AND FELT THAT JUST BECAUSE HE WAS A STAR HE WAS ACTING AND DESERVED WHAT HE GOT BUT I AM A FORMER VICTIM AND KNOW ONE WHEN I HEAR/SEE ANOTHER VICTIM
So much damage to his character, career, physical and mental state. Johnny endured so much from someone whom he loved at one time, it is so evident she had other motives. Her recordings should not be allowed in court- as you can totally see right through the staged recordings. Johnny Depp all of the exposure into this personal difficult time in your life will allow the truth to be seen and justice will be yours !Can't wait to see your strong comeback!!! May you soon have peace and joy in your life . Forever a loyal fan !
You know how hard this is for him, letting the world see so clearly into his life. I’m so proud that he took these steps, and let us all see the truth of it all. As heartbreaking as it is.
What a monster she is. He was struggling with dependencies and she never let up on him. A little love and support will go a long way. It's poison that runs thru her veins. Poor johhny
It's great that Amber's recordings have been brought out in this trial, because it clearly shows pre-meditation on her part. She had every intention to do as much damage as she could do, to Johnny. This is despicable!!! I truly hope that Amber gets the book thrown at her. She deserves to be exposed for the callous woman that she is. She has no conscience at all!!!
Histrionics at his mere suggestions of taking a break to cool off to talk later, calmer. Me me me!! Only her needs, to keep fighting until he says she’s right. Experts say, get some space to stop escalation, even write down what you wanna say, if you’re afraid that later you’re going to forget or not get the chance to make your point & then come back & talk calmly. A referee is helpful- couples counselling. They apparently went for a while. I will bet she stopped them going. My experience is the bully either won’t go or quickly stops going to therapy.
I feel sorry for this guy. I went through the same situation. Constantly being beat down to the point of insanity and saying I'm sorry for no other reason but to make her stop!
He was still concerned about her well-being, despite of her being abusive to him. Did you notice, he reminded her to take her meds? He was also concerned about driving a car in her condition.
The tapes are essentially her begging him to fight with her, him asking for peace, her sometimes getting a reaction from him that she wants so he yelled something at her. That’s crazy!! She telling him that he goes away for too long and they can’t continue the fight and she can’t trust him it will be just few min. I mean omg,it’s crazy making. What problem do they have? All money in the world, fame, everyone liking them… only peace missing is her sanity, because she is truly insane
I'm glad he survived her. I hope he finds healing and peace. He has so much dignity in his vulnerability and honesty. (I hope everyone takes care while watching, it is not easy, especially if it resonates with personal experiences.)
You can just tell that Johnny is telling the wholehearted truth because even with Ambers lawyers objecting to everything he says his testimony is still extremely powerful
If someone is terrified of their safety, it doesn't compute that the person that is allegedly causing them hurt is trying to leave and you are forcing them to stay. Someone who is fearful of an abuser doesn't try to upset them. She does this because she knows Johnny won't hurt her. She kept pushing him to anger. She was the aggressor. This is someone who is unwell. A psychologist needs to evaluate her stability.
@@serenitysmith352 back in the day, when I was a victims advocate, inviting someone to meet with you, to whom you have a restraining order against, the individual would be arrested for breaking the order. Johnny, himself found it strange she would want to meet with him. It's a trap. Also, later it was determined the person who obtained the restraining order and invited the individual over, then someone like Amber would be arrested. It's not up to the parties involved to dissolve the order, but that of the judge.
This is so horrible. As someone who was manipulated and groomed for a year by an abusive partner her shift of tone at @35 is so triggering. The jarring flip from yelling to soothing is scary. She knows what to do and how to keep him down . She provides the pain and the comfort to the pain. Her manipulation here is horrifying. She has picked all her words carefully in video she knows is being recorded. All her tones shift based on how she wants to move the conversations forward and the questions trying to build scenes or get more out of him. Disgusting. She's conditioned and worn him down so much he is barely functioning in these audio clips. Does anyone know the timeline of after his mother passed and he decided he wanted to divorce her and when she got the restraining order? All seems like such a warped and horrible way to keep him at any cost
@@matthieuschmitter6676 He enjoyed France a lot, but it wouldn’t work with his career. She loved him, but also her career singing, in French. Star-crossed lovers, another time . If he wasn’t an actor, and she wasn’t a singer?
It's not hard to believe that she had been trying to set him up. In response to asking her to say goodbye she goes from 0 to 1000 in a split of a split second. Going on about pushing her into a corner, poking her with a stick, slamming her into a wall... it seems that she believes that soundtrack will make it seem that he is doing all of those things. Even to the point where she is saying "do you like this?" she has used a very aggressive low er voice as if she is quoting him. Ugh. I feel like such a voyer
I just laughed when the plaintiff played the audio clip prior to Heard claiming" he burned her with a cigarette " and Depp even pointed out it was ashes from cigarette and if it really was a lit cigarette she would have reacted differently (scream in pain)
So unfair because she's watching her words because she knows she's recording but he doesn't have the same courtesy. She's so obviously saying things that can be misconstrued in court like you mentioned when she says things like "poking her with a stick" but then he says "throwing punches" meaning her LITERALLY throwing punches... she gets so mad and says I'm not talking about that! I'm talking about "arguments" and he says well.. arguments usually lead to throwing punches with you. Haha! She was so obviously trying to set him up. If the jury can't see it... I will be so mad! Haha!
Wow, she's so terrified of abandonment, it's so obvious. She guilt trips him and attacks him for needing space from her. She's so commanding to him. It's exactly as their therapist describes, rapid fire of her words where he can't get a word in, where he can't have a voice (therapist's words). I actually cried thinking how he is such a star, has been so many voices yet couldn't even have a voice in his closest relationship. Her "I love you" sounds like a threat. And then when he expresses himself, she coaxes him to "calm down", shuts him up... 00:29:58 her tone was that of a "spoiled teenage girl", testifies the house manager 1:19:50 about another argument.
‘Calm down, calm down, calm down’..she’s an actress in real life. She’s been setting him up over years..saving up recordings etc..to drag him thru court for money and attension. JD deserves nothing but real love and happiness❤️!!! Love from Norway🇳🇴
If you watch 39:47 to 45:10 you’ll notice the pain and anguish on Mr. Depp’s face. It’s clear Mr. Depp is an empath and he’s visibly shaken just hearing Ms. Heard cry. If you focus on Ms. Heard you’ll observe her avoid actually listening to this recording. She’ll write on her notepad the whole time. It strikes me that Mr. Depp has a good heart. He listens, he empathizes, and he clearly cares about Ms. Heard. Ms. Heard strikes me as entirely self-centered and emotionally broken.
@ 45:10 it was hard for me to watch him trying to collect himself, he was stuttering and trying to clear his throat.. Thought maybe that "Flashback" of hearing her crying might finish him for the rest of the hearing. Tough to see his sorrow 😞
It is so incredibly stressful to listen to. I can't imagine living it. She is entirely consumed by her emotions, his are invisible to her and just completely trampled and neglected. Nobody deserves that treatment, nobody.
I was amused by how she starts out performing for the recording like she’s the lead in a bad Lifetime movie (Who _are_ you? Why are you doing this???_ Give her the Oscar, folks!) but then gets caught up in the fight and forgets to hide what she’s like behind closed doors. I’ll admit, when she went into total meltdown I felt bad for her for the first time in this trial. But then I looked up and saw her blithely scribbling away like a child with a coloring book. JD looked visibly pained, but not her. I want to feel some sympathy for her, because something inside her is clearly broken, but knowing how much pain she’s caused to people who _are_ capable of feeling it, I just can’t.
She's sounds addicted to fighting. He says he will just walk away and take space to prevent a fight from escalating, letting her know in advance that will be the plan to benefit both of them, letting her know it's not stonewalling her, just letting them have peace and sitting things out, and she argues that when they argue she wants him to stay, then blames him. I think I would like her to have shock therapy.
I strongly dislike her and am not excusing anything, but it’s also interesting to me to examine why a person is this way…it seems that she has severe distress when someone mentions leaving. I wonder how her childhood was, she talks a lot about abandonment and seems like she has a very insecure upbringing
@@neonorange44 Yes, like a Cluster B personality disorder. Unfortunately, people with those disorders usually aren't willing to seek good help or when they do, gaslight their therapists or even get worse. Well, I hope she gets help for herself and turns things around. She could use that to promote help for others who are having the same kind of troubles. There's just so much their loved ones can take, before crumbling and living in confusion. I know firsthand and trying to get help for BPD/narcissist family, who have fooled therapists. It's hard. :/
Does anyone wonder what effects on her brain are the drugs and alcohol? Maybe she should try to figure it out and get well, healthy. What a mess at her young age.
@@song8777 He is so open about his problems, I get the idea if he actually snapped & hit her he would have fallen apart, begging forgiveness & looking for help. He was slow to get off the oxy’s but he did- not a court order, not a requirement by Disney or Warner. I just don’t believe he would be trying this hard to prove that he is not an abuser. He is well known to be very private & personally shy & he is publicly airing his whole life, all the worst of it. Other actors accused of somethings if it’s a lie sue, others go straight into rehab after an ugly story breaks, or they lay low until the smoke settles. I believe him.
Omg, IN THE CAR SCENE she deliberately lies saying: “ stop pushing me, stop poking me with a stick”. HE WASNT TOUCHING HER. BUT SHE KNEW IT WAS BEING RECORDED . INCREDIBLE.
Take all the notes you want girl, it’ll never justify what you’ve done. Recording her husband while at his lowest point, knowing how vulnerable one can be while under the influence and obvi something he has confirmed he has a problem with and was trying to get better. But with her as a person to assist in that detox it’s no wonder he wanted to get away from her, she’s a coo coo bird. And she still couldn’t comprehend the utmost importance of his time alone to detox, it’s sickening. JUSTICE FOR JOHNNY!!!
He is a sweet man with a kind soul. This is heartbreaking to listen to. She is beyond horrible and a horrific person. It is obvious from simply looking at her... and hearing her words and tone make me literally nauseous. He never deserved a woman like her.... 💜....
One thing we have learned out of all of this, is that Johnny Depp Enjoys helping people out, Even just hearing how guy was excited to get the offer for the job in Australia, Made Johnny smile from ear to ear. He truly is a good guy, And deserve better Than for someone to take advantage of him like she did.
Theme of every fight - they start to fight, Johnny tries to leave EVERY TIME, she flips out, screams at him and starts physical fights to keep him there. She’s sick. Addicted to drama. Addicted to fighting. Addicted to chaos. The kind of person who LOOKS for fights
Seems like Depp is the type that when things are getting heated, he prefers to retreat to cool down - it's a coping mechanism I recognize because I do the same thing - it's not "you're not dealing with the confrontation" as Amber says - it's taking time to collect yourself - it's the responsible thing to do when things are getting to be too much. Amber, on the other hand, I think she feels like she NEEDS to deal with things as they come - maybe the time in which Johnny needs a time out is anxiety inducing for her? She says, "you're just splitting" when really, he's just taking a moment or two... I don't know much about her history, but it seems she has some VERY deep rooted abandonment issues. Since this is not her first rodeo with domestic violence, perhaps she should get some intense therapy. I can't even imagine for Johnny - all this while detoxing from opiates which is one of the HARDEST things to do (it's an emotionally, mentally, and physically taxing thing to go through). 6 days to detox from opiates is a F'ing joke, but I can see how he probably had a hard enough time getting 6 days along. The worst part of all this is her remarks about how people won’t believe it if he says he’s a victim of domestic violence. Makes me angry - my husband was a victim - would have been put UNDER the jail had he defended himself because he’s a big dude - and his ex took full advantage of that. Men are victims, too!
Im horrified by the rapidity of the "detox".....!. Holy moley...you should wean, and never go cold turkey, then pump them full of other substances... makes no sense to me.... I was on a low dose benzo to stop nerve spasms (broken neck requiring surgery) ... only 5mg... but had been on it for years. The effects of coming off that was horrendous and lasted for weeks. I potentially could have had a massive seizure...and die...especially in the 1st week There is physiological dependency, as well as psychological.... An addict wanting to get off, is one thing, but physiologically the body still requires the same amounts To get off safely, you should reduce in small amounts...over a period of time for the body to ajust... Pain mismanagement is a thing!...
@@themadmattster9647 given the situation of his upbringing, his sister testified thats what he / they did growing up, when their mother would go off on a tirade, they would go and hide / get away from it
I doubt she was motivated to actually works things out, but just wanted to keep the argument going for psychological motivation - control, possibly narcissistic supply. She definitely seems like she was highly insecure and smothering. What a horrendous relationship. I hope Johnny has some peace and healing now.
ROTTENborne living up to his name. 😂 He sure did make a big mistake treating Johnny like that. You get what you give and Amber sure did get it from his lawyers. The truth always wins!
Lots of respect for his lawyer not making him listen again to the recording of him wanting to hurt himself while still giving him a chance to explain it. Amber's lawyers playing that, making him visibly upset, then not acknowledging it at all, and saying they were just going to move on knowing they were essentially done for the weekend was unnecessary and honestly, a cruel thing to do and just another way for her to hurt him.
Hideously cruel and unnecessary. I think it boomeranged and most people were moved by Johnny's reaction to that recording. It was hard to watch him relive that terrible experience.
If he had done to her what she had done to him, he'd be behind bars! He wants to leave and she keeps saying she wants a "normal argument"; what is a normal argument? A normal argument is her manipulating him, whilst she's recording him, to gain some type of leverage. I feel so sorry for him and I hope he's found peace and happiness. Anyone who has a relationship with her now would have to be a very sick person.
I laughed out loud when Rottenborn immediately pounced and whined when they were listening to a supposed 11 second clip but it was playing longer than that. 😁
My 8 year old daughter walks in this morning as I listened to this testimony (again): “Mommy, why do you listen to this all the time?” She walks over and examines the video on my phone for a moment. She raises an eyebrow and looks at me, somewhat concerned. “She’s ugly.”
One has to be blind and deaf not to recognise how guilty, manipulative, abusive, heartless Amber Heard is. I Hope the jury can see this too and she pays for all the awful things she did to Johnny Depp. I am a woman and I want justice for Johnny Depp. ✌️🙌
As an fellow artist who has been in a REALLY toxic relationship. Some of the things that Johnny Depp has said/done maybe jarring to most people. Like “Take my Blood” or the scribbling on the Mirror etc. I assure you that this is most definitely an ordinary way our minds work to illustrate the pain/mental agony something or SOMEONE is causing us. Like painting or poetry and dance. That being said I’m getting severe PTSD from watching these…
I really am in shock how she twisted all the stuff her lawyer had accused him for!!! She is really sick and I hope she is done with her career.. she is so evil!!! Prayers for u Mr. Depp. The truth will always set u free!!🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽❤️❤️
Amber Heard unintentionally broadcasts like the worst type of politician. I was someone that believed her and the op ed hook, line and sinker... but seeing this trial has me mind-blown. She oozes a kind of self serving disdain that's hard to capture in words. Hoping the jury sees how scary this is too.
Same! I took her word because I typically take the woman’s side for things like this but wow, I’m almost glad this trial happened because it’s given me so much perspective and empathy….victims are victims, we are all people and the old age thinking of men and women and how we treat them as victims needs to change…if this happened to them it’s certainly happening to the rest of the population. The video she filmed of him with the cabinets totally changed my mind and now this trial is just making her look like a fool….I can’t wait for her to get examined by his lawyer…she’s got nothing
That long clip of them in the bathroom when he took off his ring seriously gave me heart palpitations. The mind games she's trying to play and just the over wordiness to back someone into a corner.
Omgosh that was painful my heart just bleeding over this ! so many moments so horrific & confusing she keeps changing the rules on a horrific turnpike its so so offensive and the cruelty that she lives for its her drug of choice!
@@pnw_mainecoons6633 From that clip onward to the end of Johnny's testimony, I just truly feel on edge. Like I got a glimpse of how he felt many, many times in his relationship. I couldn't imagine living that way.
@@emberdt7998 I'm thinking I probably shouldn't listen. Anxiety is starting just from your "warning" that this is coming up. Sorry you all and Johnny had to go through this.
If a cigarette was to put out on her, she would have taken pictures of that proof. She had taken pictures of far less relevant things up to this point.
Johnny depps team giving him pats and welldones just after his testimony. Its like they are a family! His lawyer even pulled the seat back for him. Feeling the love!
I have been in a relationship as this and I was infuriated when my partner would not engage. Never my proudest moments. Amber what's her name should have walked away. She is intent on burying this poor man. To this day she is proving her zest for destroying him. This woman needs to be held accountable.
44:35 "Can we have a normal argument" Full crazy. She craves the fights where she can spew her anger at someone else who's basically nothing more than an emotional punching bag.
I look forward to the day she takes the stand and is asked "Ms Heard. Why did you feel the need to start recording and then start an argument?" Her lawyer: OBJECTION!!!!! Judge: Overruled, answer the question Ms Heard
Can't stand her how can you be that evil to someone you say you "loved", recording , giving false accusations of being beating, manipulate ect and play the victim it's seriously sickening 😦
The poor guy seems like he should have had the restraining order against her! She was always backing him into corners then getting mad when he would remove himself from a escalating high emotional situation so he could act correctly to the situation instead of emotionally react… obviously vile relationship but he used the coping mechanisms that he has available to himself. Poor guy.
I prayed the Rosary today with you in mind Johnny. Prayers of love, light and healing for you. You are telling your truth, the truth. It will be okay. God bless you.
@@spirituallysafe Each mystery of the rosary is focused on the very Biblical events of the Gospels. To say that the Rosary is not biblical is not accurate at all. The Rosary is composed of the following prayers - Ave Maria (Hail Mary), Pater Noster (the Lord’s Prayer, given to us by Christ Himself), Gloria Patri (Glory Be), Apostles Creed, the various mysteries of faith, and a concluding Salve . Regina. You, @Spiritually Safe do not dictate to me and you can not judge my relationship with Jesus. You should be concerned with yourself. If you had the least bit of education you would know that the Rosary comes from the verses of The Holy Bible.
funny , She's crazy bcs she's recording for evidence to blackmail him with in the future and he is doing nothing to her while she's acting .. That's the definition of psychopath .
When you have so many arguments it truly is difficult to recall them because they all seem the same and all the days do. In fact you can literally forget the argument you had on a yesterday.
I don’t understand why Depp has to state the dates. Memory can be faulty. I have trouble with dates myself. A tutorial would have been helpful before the trial. Heard’s attorneys won’t say the dates that they have, the arguments do follow her own order. She is the conductor.
At the 52:33 mark when he starts to talk about how cruel it was for her lawyers to play the recording of him harming himself that moved him to tears last week, and Rottenborn objects to cut him off, it breaks my heart. They are trying everything they can to break him down, but he'll still come out on top.
I find myself watching the whole trial again… for the third time. This woman is not right in the head. Look at her face while Johnny is speaking… she doesn’t know what to do with herself, so she starts writing or pretending to write.. she looks irritated, annoyed, angry… never sad,scared or humbled. I am so glad for the outcome of all of this.
She's unhinged. I'm just waiting for the day she attacks her next lover. I can't imagine any man in his right mind EVER having a relationship with her now. She only uses a man for what she can get from him.
I was in a relationship exactly like this. One thing I've learned is that when someone is asking for space, you give it to them, without question. It feels like they're walking away for good so begging them to stay seems like the right thing but it's in fact making things worse because it means stepping over someones boundaries. It's manipulative and controlling. From the recordings, you can tell she's trying to control every situation and then when she doesn't get her way, she's the victim. It's frustrating to hear.
I was un a short relationship like this too. i just don't really know on which side I stood. But: he also left all the time and I totally understand how being left causes extreme feeling when you are not stable within yourself. I hated it. Was one of the reasons why I quit the relationship after a few months. I couldn't deal with this behaviour. BUT: i am totally on Johnnys side in this case because it's obvious who's the abuser.
She tried to control him in the darkest days of his addiction… She tired to control his detox process… She tried to control his struggle to maintain sobriety… She tried to control him long after he was sober… She tried to control him long after their marriage ended… She doesn’t want anything but control over him because she has NOTHING else in her life.
I think everyone who's been in situations with people similar to Amber is having quite the visceral reaction listening to these recordings. He just sounds so defeated and tired, nothing he can do is right, she's always there to pick and poke and instigate. I too found myself wishing I could just hug the guy. Through this he's become even more relatable to most of us.
Ugh he is putting a door or wall between them when he feels an argument ramping up, because he knows it will come to violence from her. And he is putting up personal boundaries, neither of which barrier can she handle.
Oh. My God. He should get an award for not smacking the crap out of her. This poor man! She is awful. She's calling him a bully but she is the bully. She is insane.