Johnny Marr opens up about The Smiths split 

Legend mate

yeah i agree

listen to set the boy free on audible! he reads his own autobiography for your ears, its great. ive done it twice.

Me too. Really honest and comfortable in his own skin

@booseyhey not 'foggy' she DID

bingo

Nah mate, it was Chastity, a simple German girl whose father had invented WWII...

YES FINALLY SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS!

You're not entirely wrong cough Angie Marr. 😜

what he's on about is interesting, but it's just not really what the title leads you to think he's on about.

He just said that he was “forced into it”. Still click bait. 🙄

A McKay Music listen from 1:25

@@revol148 two years and not a single example

@@basti_marr he was forced into it - this is Johnny Marr we're talking about - not exactly the most articulate of people at the best of times !

yeah bloody hell

I agree ! 😉👍

Thanks for the warning

I wish the interview was as loud

Thanks for the warning !!!! what wankers they are for doing that!!

You’re right that a Smiths reunion tour would be dreadful and tarnish the legacy. But I would like Johnny Marr and Morrissey to write some new songs together. Sadly it looks like that will never happen.

MASSIVELY overrated. Btw, I like Morrissey and Marr`s solo stuff.

@@fecklessmovies I don’t think morrisey and marr have met or talked since 1987.

@@TwentyOne_Five I think you’re right. And following that court case Morrissey will never speak to any of the other Smiths again, let alone make music with them. Fortunately he’s got Alain Whyte back on the team now and a really great band.

@@fecklessmovies Well, you have your wish. They'll never reunite now Rourke is gone ...

At their current age now it would just be sad.

they could probably sell out any given venue three times with the amount of people that would see them

@@cockoffgewgle4993 What about Johnny and Morrissey as they tour now with their respective bands playing Smiths' music, is that also sad ?

@@TheVideoLounge Not really, because they're different acts. People don't have their young selves to compare them to. And The Smiths' main audience was teenagers and young people. Reviving music/films/whatever decades later rarely works. It's just depressing, like trying to recapture your youth or moments from your past.

@@cockoffgewgle4993 sad? How so? Both still sound terrific

That is a fantastic idea. Then everybody in the world would be happy...except Mike Joyce ha ha

They aren't looking for a cure for cancer now too much money in treating it mate

@@happymedz5987 That makes no sense, they could make sooooooooo much more money selling the cure to cancer than treatment

@@HumansFreshlyBorn if they found the cure to cancer they would be able to sell it. In the UK they would be forced to hand it out for free. Long term they make more money with treatment

​@@HumansFreshlyBorn a cure is an one time thing. Treatment is for life. Would you rather have 100 quid once, or 50 every 6 months?

It sure isn't this one!

3 Minute Poetry Analysis Rourke is an underrated bass player, I thought he was fantastic

It would be exactly like paying Ringo and George 10% in the early days

I am new to The Smiths music/band and it seems a very odd story of greed regarding the band ending and royalty split 40/40/10/10. For people as intelligent as Morissey and Marr it seems incredible and sad.

Imix Muan are you having a laugh? Are you calling the Queen Is Dead “downhill”? The best Smiths record is definitely the Queen Is Dead.

Andy rourke was great but marr actually wrote many of the bass lines himself, including the one on barbarism

yes. except Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others

@@shadygroves8252 "As Antony said to Cleopatra as he opened a crate of ale, Oh I say, some girls are bigger than others" how is that not genius haha

@@kriss.454 fair enough haha

Just a shame when people started to realise "oh no wait Morrissey isn't trying to say weird stuff to satirise the music industry/society as a whole, he genuinely is a nutcase who believes everything he's saying

@@Umicron_ Like what? Give an example

exactly it’s really just petty. sort it out boys.

Andy J M don’t get me wrong, there’s no sound like original Smiths tracks. But you listen to Johnny’s music now, he just keeps getting better and better, and you can bet your bottom dollar Morrissey will never have the talent and gift that Marr now has even after all these years, listen to Morrissey’s latest stuff - his voice has gone and he can’t play the guitar. But Johnny’s latest music is bloody amazing, I mean come on bro. But eh; everyone’s got different tastes I guess

@@thetimeisnow5193 which songs or albums he's on you rec

@@peterpinsent9304 I understand what you’re saying. I wrote that comment 3 years ago and have a completely different mindset now, so apologise for my attitude back then. I’ve come to realise that it’s personal preference - some people prefer Morrissey’s music and others prefer Johnny’s and there’s nothing wrong with that. Not everyone likes the same thing and if they did, the world would be a very boring place.

The 80s and 90s were probably the the last great creative decades. Everything now is awful 😢

Noel Gallagher?

Can’t agree more absolutely spot on

I think you meant Johnny Marr and Johnny Greenwood.

Yeah, Johnny Marr and Johnny Greenwood is more realistic.

Nah he was right the first time Johnny Greenwood is a genius multi instrumental artist.. John Squire and Johnny marr started the Madchester movement which spawned britpop..

I was thinking the same thing.

where?

Jeff Svirtunas Modest Mouse

Yeah, but with ALL of those respected acts, there aren't too many songs Marr did with them which people are singing or will remember so fondly as Smiths' songs.

Also Morrissey released 'Viva Hate' just six months after the last Smiths album. They both did fine, shame about Andy and Mike...

Manuel Löv - No,no,no. Joyce and Rourke did some tunes on Sinead's huge record. Before that Joyce was with PIL and Buzzcocks. All four members including the 5th Smith Craig Gannon, have been involved in great things since the demise.

Sounds more like he just relaxed with already-established acts, past their prime. I mean good for him if he enjoyed it, but it's not like when the average person thinks of the Pretenders, they're thinking of a song that came out after The Smiths broke up. Same with Talking Heads. No doubt he's an amazing musician, and still can play, but let's be honest here. All of his memorable music was made with The Smiths. No use in denying it. He's a great guitarist, so he was able to survive after the break-up of one of the most iconic British bands. But "surviving" isn't the same as flourishing. Now he and Morrissey are getting too old for a reunion to even make sense. They've both totally gone their own ways, and it would be too contrived. I think Morrissey has done much better than Marr post-Smiths. There are a number of his songs that are easy to remember and sing in the shower. We're just left with recordings of Smiths songs. Thank God they were together as long as they were, and as prolific as they were.

I always felt the NME running that story effectively created the split out of nothing.

Choco Manger yeah, I thought Morrissey did all the song writing anyway

Get the Message, Feel Every Beat, Getting Away With It, New Town Velocity, The Messenger, ...

Some of the songs he wrote with Kirsty MacColl are very good. Heck, 'Children of the Revolution' could easily be a Smiths track.

'Down on the Corner' is a very good one also. Strange how nobody ever mentions that song.

100% correct

YES !

By himself

Totally agree, he praises other collaborators to the skies but he's fooling no-one. I think it is due to the fact that he & Moz are estranged and have a difficult personal relationship, whereas he's still very 'matey' with the rest so he tries to make them more important than they are.

How though?

@@mirandaosornio9464 Johnny said his musical skills got better after Bernard…. So there is the Music after Bernard and the one before - you be the judge.

I haven't heard Electronic too much but I'll pay more attention (kinda understand what you say cause Bernard has a very different way of writing)

I wonder sometimes if part of Marr's coldness towards Craig came down to pride (not wanting to share the guitar spotlight) and another part was him wanting to show loyalty to Andy. Who knows? Morrissey had similar issues with Craig, he just didn't fit in. Johnny was sympathetic to CG in his book.

Joy Division, new order and Electronic. Bernard has done it 3 times, over many genres of music, to say he’s not in the same league is a joke.

considering Moz didn't write a single Smiths song, I don't understand what you are on about. Moz wrote lyrics, but Johnny wrote every single song, riff and melody.

I’m sorry but you you know nothing. You can’t displace Bernard or Neil or Chris. Get well informed about the real deal things and come back.

@@cityslacker6221 That's not true, Marr would give Morrissey instrumentals and he would write lyrics and put them to a melody. In no instance did Marr give Morrissey an instrumental with a lead melody and just say "here, fill in the syllables".

@@patriciofernandez2711I am editing my first reply to you. I did not say Johnny instructed moz on how to sing the lyrics. Johnny wrote the music and Moz wrote the lyrics and sang them to his and Johnny and Street’s satisfaction. However, moz’s “melodies”, or how he fit his lyrics to the song, did not affect the music as far as we know.

+Nubby Tope I'll have whatever you are on please!

It’s true. As much as I adore him, Morrissey really is a fucking madman now.

Comment Debater Indeed, seems like the older he gets!. Maybe heaven knows he's miserable now.

It's never going to happen, mostly because Morrissey hates Joyce, so there's no hope for us.

It will never happen ever. Morrissey is still bitter with Joyce over that 1996 court case. Can you imagine being bitter with someone for 22 years. I wouldnt have the energy.Also i think they fear getting back together. What if their not as good the legacy will be destroyed.

Darren Herbert - I would still take my chances just to see them all four together on stage. I had the privilege to meet both Joyce and Rourke at a Smiths convention in Pasadena CA I believe in 1997, awesome pair. My wife won one of the raffle to have dinner with them. Something that will never happen to me again! Joyce was really down to earth. Andy of course shy. I'm sure Morrissey and Marr are cool as well. At the end of the day, their just flesh and bone.

isn't Paul Weller representing the poor man already ?

They had preceded that with Getting Away With It cowritten and performed with Neil. And Patience Of A Saint had some input from Chris too. But yes, more would have been welcome

We surely need more

Getting away with it is my all time favourite song. Absolutely brilliant.

his book is really insightful and goes into way more detail. I've read it 3 times, a great read

Marr is full of BS

I know Neil Tennent was In the band Electronic with Marr and Sumner from new order

On the album Behaviour by the pets too

Incorrect. Next?

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your grammar and sentence structure isn't coherent.

We share the same profile picture and so please don't judge

@@niadaniels1044 oops

Dont judge me for seeing mine as yours...at least I was willing to share.

what's wrong with you

Or maybe he should carry on how he bloody well pleases.

Actually it looks a bit "stiff" when he's playing live and moving around the stage, I wonder...

He doesn't need to keep dying it as it's a wig

C'mon people, It's not Johnny's fault you don't get laid.

TMATMATMA is it?

+Imix Muan read Johnny Rogan's book on the band and report back....

Why?

yeah why?

nobody has EVER said this one 😂

I can only assume you haven't really listened to his most recent solo album, judging from the words in your post. There is so much of his old influence running through the arrangements and playing on this one.