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@@MGZ24 Basically OP thought that the OVA's stairs scene supernaturally predicted a similar moment in the Stardust Crusaders David Pro anime. Right before hamon beat himself notes that the two scenes are indeed similar. Basically he commented too soon.
Honestly the art style of the JoJo OVA is kinda weird. Ignoring the very heavy and clearly 90s early computer animation they try to make the art style seem both realistic while at the same faithful to the source material. All of the characters and stands which appear look exactly like they do in the manga and all of the goofy mannerisms stay the same aswell meanwhile the world around seems much more based in our reality than anything in JoJo with the realistic looking people and environments. It's a weird juxtaposition seeing a French guy with the biggest crop top ever, heart shaped earrings, muscles to rival Arnold Schwarzenegger, and 7 feet tall walking through a crowd of ordinary looking people in a Pakistani town that looks like it actually is a real place (technically it is but ya know what I mean)
My favourite part of the OVA was when Dio actually ran after Joseph in stopped time. It actually made it seem like there was a time limit to his powers
Meanwhile in the Anime, he’s just walking slowly and taking his sweet dilly time while monologuing and knocking people around All that and it’s supposed to be 5 seconds…
In fairness they were only able to make the OVA a certain length, so things needed cutting out and changing for the plot to still be coherent and consistent. Along with being consistent narratively, it's clear they were trying to be consistent tonally as well seeing as the OVA is pretty serious throughout. As much as I like the Oingo/Hol Horse & Boingo encounters, they wouldn't have fit with the tone of the OVA. Not to mention with them having to keep it to a certain length, having those fights in there would mean they would have to drop two of the fights they actually included. The plot in the OVA is at least coherent (if very untrue to the source material) and I think "which encounters can we alter to help keep the plot coherent" was probably partially why they picked the stand users they picked to put in the OVA. I don't see how they could have gotten either of the Boingo encounters in there without the plot becoming a bit of a hard to follow mess. As inferior as it is to the source material, the plot in the OVA is at least still easy to understand for somebody who hasn't read the source material, something a good adaptation should do.
I'd say the new SC is a better adaptation, but I still weirdly prefer the OVA, it's quite something, without it, I doubt I would've been seeing JoJo's today, it's not just nostalgia though, it's that serious tone it had throughout imo was brilliant.
@Chandler Broderick The manga definitely makes the waves of goons with little change aside from backdrop more palatable. When I first saw the SC anime (after having read and re-read the scanlations years before it started, starting from the piss yellow ones to the updated ones), I was pretty disappointed that they were dragging it out so long, just like how I was miffed that DP cut PB so short (which I had read back to front multiple times before then). DP does excellent work, and their respect for Jojo and Araki's vision is apparent, but they're not perfect. They help pick up after the things Araki screws up, but they screw up themselves. DP leaves in too much, and APPP leaves in too little. To me, the best way to experience SC is the manga, but I wouldn't dissuade someone from watching the anime if they chose to.
I spat coffee when I saw it the first time. That, and the face Star gets as he yeets that tower as a distraction near 9:25 contrasting his hyperserious resting bitch face the rest of the whole thing.
I really like the OVA as its own entity for the following reasons: 1) It gives off an extremely nostalgic feeling with all the retro music. 2) It's kind of dark, melancholic and not so generous in the comedy department as DP's anime (which I love more btw), and so the OVA is unlike the modern Jojo anime, but in a nice way. 3) I'm Egyptian and the amount of detail included in the animation of the streets and rooftops of 1980s downtown Cairo, heck, even the 7 up and Coca Cola signs, is all accurate to an extent. Even the scene where Dio was in the tram, the people were speaking Arabic in the Egyptian accent. It's not as bad as you think even with most of the arcs completely removed and the remaining ones changed drastically! 😅
Well, the animation in the OVA is beautiful (specially in the 1993 ova) but they cut lots of characters and story from the original source, also the humor and tone are more serious or darker (you will not get those funny moments with Joseph or Polnareff) but the action is brutal. With this, i still prefer the 2015 version. The music, and the way that David Pro is still handle the JOJO Manga until now it's perfect
@@swf_buccellati2098 As I explained in previous comments: Part 3 kinda has some tonal issues and stuff that could be trimmed without much concern. The OVA does fix that (even if I'd have added 4 more episodes to it...) for the most part and has more of a Phantom Blood tone overall. As for David Pro they do improve for Part 4 and 5 (like the build up for Kira and the added moments with the execution squad and GioGio...) even if they still are too literal when it comes to dialogue and exposition (Lord do I hate the narrator !). Just my 2 cents.
saidi7975 yeah I get what you mean. Personally, the tone for David Pro’s adaptation isn’t an issue, as they adapted almost everything from the manga, while the OVA left out many fights, leaving mostly the more serious ones. For me, my major issue with the new part 3 adaptation is how it’s split up into two seasons, making it 48 episodes long. That’s pretty unnecessary for this part. But yeah, I agree with you on parts 4 and 5 having better adaptations than part 3 did. Don’t know what’s your deal with the narrator though, I feel like he speaks less and less with each part... but it’s whatever
I'd really recommend people watching it for the different take on Dio' timestop. In Stardust Crusaders, it has this amazing 'zhoom' sound. But in the OVA, inside time-stop has different sounds and speech sounds 'weird'. It creates a REALLY menacing environment, which I personally think is better than in Stardust Crusaders.
I think the best way to represent time stop is a combo of the BBBBBVVVVPPPPTT and gears clicking to a stop, and then the "stilled time" speech getting tinny and distorted (after all, sound is air moving, of course speaking in stopped time will sound distorted!). Having one without the other makes it sound like it's missing that tiny extra push into "this is not normal stand fight".
The time stop voice is literally just DIO speaking into a water bottle. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the OVA, but time stop voice is ...not really something i enjoy so much. But, his voice actually changing sure is.
@@Sqk. You could make the same point about literally any voice with some overlay. Like Darth Vader sounds like he's talking into a can - but that doesn't change the fact it was amazing. DIO' voice in the OVA makes logical sense and sounds like he's in a different plane altogether. Like, that's mine and your opinion - but I feel that the dub did it *soooo much worse* Mercer is a fantastic voice actor, but him referencing McCree multiple times and even saying "its high noon" during Jotaro vs DIO' final moments - completely ruins the experience for me. The entire point of voice-acting is to give life to a character, and his lines were self-references. Like their stand rushes sounds super awkward, because they just don't care about the original author' intention. It's been like this for decades - even in DBZ, they changed Goku dramatically. So when super came around, everyone in the west was like "omg goku is a retard" - no, the dub made him completely different. For example, when Goku was trying to convince Vegeta to use the potaro earrings against Super Buu, he originally says something along the lines of "everyone is already dead" and we get the flashback of events; implying Goku is telling him the details. In the dub, Goku goes on a completely out of character monologue about their legacy as saiyans and trying to convince him with emotional baggage: And Vegeta fucking responds positively - Vegeta hasn't completely changed after he sacrificed himself, it's a process. That's why it was still a plot-point in super. Sorry about the tangent, I just *really* despise most dubs - they have no respect for the original author and kind of abuse their right to dub it and completely change multiple plot points. When they change enough, it's literally fan fiction.
@@nivyan yeah, true. dont really watch dubbed content. i experimented with the tsrk dub, after having read the original manga and watched it subbed, and it was somewhat fine. i’ve heard the ova’s dub is ‘hilariously bad’ which is honestly a bit sad for myself as i’ve seen a lot of the ‘making of’ for it, and it seems it was very much enjoyed. apparently hol horse was great in the dub, too.
I really liked how they depicted the emerald splash attack in this OVA. It looks like a machine gun, with emeralds obliterating anything they strike. It looks like a genuinely dangerous ranged attack, much more menacing than the anime where its destructive power is rarely shown.
Also from the OVA, in the 2000 episode group spanning the first half, they showed that Hierophant's tentacles are lined with little emerald "teeth" like a chainsaw, and that's why the Stand is so dangerous to yank out of people or to get "slapped" by it. I very much like the idea of Hierophant Green being chainsaw ropes, tripwire shotgun blasts and machine gun fire, all of it with emerald-like shards and fragments.
There's a few things I like from the OVA. The animation for a start is largely quite good, even if at times untrue to the source. It's a lot more fluid and less stiff than the recent anime which nails the aesthetic style of Jojo but is pretty stiff a majority of the time. I guess that's the difference between an OVA and series budget though. In terms of changes and additions, again, some of them are quite good actually, at least the additions (I more just accept the changes with it having to cut content to fit the run time). I would have liked if rather than totally ignoring the existence of the OVA, the recent anime took some of the scenes added in it and recreated them, AT LEAST the ones that don't actually effect the plot in any significant way. More specifically I'm referring to the scenes such as the Geb/N'duhl fight with the added glove and Polnareff on the boxes, or the Dio fight with throwing boats, spires and Dio's slapping people in half. I feel stuff like that only added to the encounters and they were actually some neat additions that very easily could have been in the source material. I can't remember if it's in the manga (been a while since I read it) hence why I'm listing these separately, but there's also three scenes in the Dio fight that I liked from the OVA. - One is Jotaro getting punched by the World with Dio and Jotaro questioning how he isn't dead from it, only then to show Star Platinum subconciously blocking the blows. It adds a little more to Jotaro slowly learning to use time stop as well as reminding us Jotaro is kinda a normal guy who shouldn't be able to take a hit from Dio. In the manga and anime Jotaro does kinda become superhuman in this fight whereas this one little scene can help justify it as Star Platinum taking any 'lethal blows'. - I can't remember where in the encounter it happens, but it shows Jotaro strapping books under his shirt to splint his broken ribs. It makes the later classic scene of Jotaro getting stabbed with all the knives and falling from the sky is a lot less bullshit...Yano, where originally he just randomly has books strapped to himself for no reason. - Dio showing off his powers early in the encounter (I think before the Worlds power is revealed). He's just teleporting around. There's no sound effect or flashy presentation, he just keeps appearing in different places in the scene. It's nice and creepy. Oh, and Jotaro coming out of the still flames of the oil tanker, time resuming with the flames suddenly making his jacket blow around in the wind. It just looks fucking cool. I would never replace the road roller, I just had to say this bit was really neat.
Jotaro using Star Platinum to block is something he does several times in the manga and anime, so it isn't much different from the OVA. In fact, in both the anime and manga, Jotaro gets his guard intercepted by The World once. The OVA just frames it with SP protecting Jotaro whike time is stopped. Jotaro attaching wooden planks to him by the pool is completely original, and he also spends that time mulling over just what can DIO's Stand do, and how he can fight it. As for the books, Jotaro supposedly attached them underneath his clothes while DIO was recovering from his impairment by SP. The teleportation happens also in the anime and manga, but it's less suspenseful.
Tao dude fighting game on dreamcast and this ova on a vhs is the way found out about jojo as a teen, and i would eventually read all the parts i actually the most of the liberties the ova took were pretty good, the animation still holds up and the japanese voice acting is great i actually have this version
My big problem with the animation is that some scenes look like thay put a still image and slid it across the back image here is a example: 4:45 other than that I fell like the characters are to fat looking although it may be I gave been thinking of it compared to the manga and anime
I know it's minor, but I always did love how they gave Hol Horse a vintage motorbike in this adaptation. There's just something about that made him genuinely pretty cool!
@@Charly608 There is a noise, but it not always used, only if we see time stopped from Dio's perspective. I also heard the guy who worked on the OVA time stop scenes also worked on the David Pro version too, so there are similarities to the effect.
It makes it way less repetitive. It annoyed me so much that Kaykoin and Polnareff were introduced in the same way of fighting the guys and then they join the group
Accidentally started with this one when i first started this series. Leading to a bit of confusion at first but after some searching found everything out. Kinda happy i did tho because it was interesting to start there and then getting to see the events referenced shown to me because part 1 felt so different. And then eventually getting to see what caused Joseph to get a mechanical hand.
Same i was consused and i cant understand whats heppening in part 1 so i started watching from part 3 and then after that i watch part 4 then i part 1 and 2 and then its more sense full for me
I’m just gonna say, the OVA final fight between Jotaro and Dio (when he drank Joseph’s blood) was literally the best one. Between the Manga, OVA, and anime versions, the OVA was the best one. MY DUDE JOTARO THREW A FRICKIN’ BUILDING AT HIM. There was lots of throwing, and I honestly loved it. In fact, I’m gonna go watch it now. SEE YA!
i agree, while the virgin DIO throws an steamroller, the chad DIO OVA trhows: cars, boats and an FUCKING OUL TANKER while the virgin jotaro throws an iggy the chad jotaro ova throws an FUCKING BUILDING AT DIO yea i agree 1000%
I like DIO's visual design better in the manga/anime, and the anime voice acting is way, WAAAY better, but other than that yeah the OVA Jotaro vs DIO fight is better. Just watch that RU-vid video that is the OVA fight with the anime voice acting and you'll see absolute perfection
I do love certain things that the OVA did to make it seem a bit more grounded. Like how instead of Jotaro using Magazines to block Dio’s knives, his bandages and splints used for broken ribs block it. I also like how Star Platinum is defending Jotaro in stopped time before Jotaro even realizes
One thing I really loved with the OVA was how Dio's time stop was portrayed. How one moment he was there and the next he was gone. No flashy effects or sounds, just something incredibly sudden that is really unnerving.
I love the OVA, maybe even more than the anime. It has this gravity that makes everything feel real and gritty. The Jotaro/Dio fight especially feels like how a fight between two superhumans in the middle of a city would be, collateral damage and all. If a live action adaptation would ever be attempted I would hope they take inspiration from the OVA.
What I love from the OVA is how The World's ability is depicted. Time stopping looks terrifying when you don't add weird sound or visual effects and only show what Jotaro and the others saw.
Dio's and Jotaro's extended fight was actually phenomenal tbh. It gave a legitimate final boss fight feeling to it, with both Dio and Jotaro actually going ham at each other, rather than Dio just gloating around.
I feel like showing Joseph use Hamon on the bud is to show that Araki hasn’t forgot Hamon and that you shouldn’t forget who this man really is. Joseph Joestar.
Spinozilla Saurian Meme-worthy isn’t the same as iconic,plus it’s just a different vehicle. Also,an oil tanker is a more effective to kill someone than a road roller.
Watching this after the DP version really made me appreciate the creative liberties they took. There’s a lot of things I found interesting, especially DIO being more active during the final fight
@@shrekkek9396 they did understand jojo, and the dio fight does start out like that it's only after dio gets his high that it turns into two gods throwing hands and also, just because the original did it does not make it better, dio being more than just some bitch for jotaro to slap around is a GOOD thing
The 2000 OVA still looks beautiful to me. It has such an ethereal glow to it. Its also really great with the horror aspects. The Enya fight was fantastic.
I remember watching the Jotaro vs Dio fight from the OVA, while i am not to sure on some choices, i can't help but it has some pretty badass moments and animation, like SP throwing a fcking tower at Dio, that was amazing
Dude the stands are crazy OP in this adaptation, Kakyoins Emerald Splash does huge amounts of damage to the buildings and Joseph's Hermit Purple's Hamon literally destroys the ground a la DBZ yet SOMEHOW doesn't straight up vaporize DIO.
Even tho this was made back in April, I would like to point out one difference you missed during the Jotaro vs Dio fight. When Polnareff stabbed Dio in the head, Dio’s headband falls off, while in the manga and even anime, it stays on.
Even though so much is different here, the tone of the OVA is so much darker than the anime production, barely anything is played as a joke and its super gory and violent. I honestly prefer this version to watch but the original manga and anime have their own merits over this
There's a line in the OVA where Jotaro says that N'Doul could have been a potential ally had the Stardust crusaders gotten to him before DIO. Really wish this line was in the anime. Was this OVA original or was this moment present in the manga?
I know that this is old video but it is possible that they wanted scene at 3:05 to be more brutal. They just forgotted that the only reason why polnareff even know that his sister got brutally r**ed and murdered by a guy with two right hands is because her friend survived and told him what happened.
Fun fact: OAV did improve a lot of stardust crusaders, especially in the second half with Dio, N'Dour, D'Arby e Ice fights. They cut the useless content (like nukesaku part) and improved the overall pacing. English viewers hates it just for the crappy dub, but it was a very good adaptation in japan and in my country with top voice acting. I do miss oingo boingo and younger d'arby in this ova's but to be honest they're the only one I miss. A lot SC was filler crap and we know that. I still suggests this ovas to get into jojo. Fast, safe, a lot of great cinematography by the missed Satoshi Kon and if they like that they can start reading the manga.
Yeah SC is one of my least favourite parts because of that, literally half of the fights with Stand Users can be thrown away and the story wont change at all. When I was watching SC and finished the first season I was like "wait there's more ?" It's way too long especially when compared to other parts and Stand User of the week formula gets old quickly especially when you realize that most of the fights don't really matter because heroes are unharmed. On top of that Jotaro really seems like a Mary Sue sometimes, I don't think he's ever been in real danger up untill his fight with DIO and even then he wins because plot and that issue becomes even greater when you look at Jonathan and Joseph who actually had to train and got their asses kicked. Overall by the end of SC Jotaro seems like an invincible god but they fixed that in the later parts.
Agreed. I just wish it had 4 more episodes since I feel they'd do wonders with Pet Shop, Steely Dan and Terrence D'Arby. And the French dub is glorious, Polnareff is the ultimate Beauf while Jacques Albaret is my favorite Jotaro !
Bro that prequel OVA have such a beautiful art style, I love it. Everyone looks more... dark and realistic, and entire tone is just so much more serious.
I think he was caught off guard. Also, he’s a dog. You can’t expect him to be as reactive to danger as a human. Iggy is much more dog-like in the OVA and it makes his death much worse to watch.
I do like what they were going for with DIO's look, he feels like an immortal monster. But the DIO in the Anime really makes him look like more of a God. Both are very thematical!
To be frank I prefer OVA DIO over his Manga version. He is not only scarier but he actually interacts with Joseph and Jotaro, reminding them and the viewer that he is the vile motherfucker that plagued Jonathan's life. In the Manga it's too impersonal and distant, as if to say, look we reached the final boss. That's why Part1 and OVA Dio are my favorite versions of the Character, he is a personal nemesis!
A few things about the Hierophant Green fight that should have been mentioned is that Jotaro removed Kakyoin's stand out of the schoolgirl completely (without hurting her), the big speech about evil started because Jotaro chose to defend against Emerald Splash rather than dodge it in order to protect her (Kakyoin taunted Jotaro's selfless act as foolishness), and the girl was shown to regain consciousness after the fight unaware what happend rather than Jotaro checking the pulse to comfirm she was alright.
You missed the part when jotaro puts some wood blocks between his cloths after dio punches him out of the mansion, this wood blocks are the ones that will save him later when dio launches the knifes at him
@@sridrawings4510 the ps1 verison of heritage of the futrue includes all the fights just like the manga all so jojo's bizzare adventure is a updated name of jojo's venture and game like the ps1 verison but the fights are decreed in the hd ps3 and the jojo's venture verison but the ps1 verison keeps all the fights like the tower of gray dark blue moon pet shop oingo boingo judgement the younger d'raby empress wheel of fortune death 13 lovers high priestess rubber soul devo the curse anubis moriah and alessi hold hourse and boingo
God I remember watching these back in college in the 00s but looking back, christ all the young characters look at least 40! Glad for the modern adaptations!
