Jonathan Karl | Donald Trump and the End of the GOP 

I blame Moscow Mitch McConnell as much as the Orange Monster as the grim reaper of democracy👁🔔👁

he is a complete narcissist... it all starts here. a sick and dangerous narcissist. straight jacket will fit him well.. can't wait

When Trump says you didn't work hard enough for me what he means is you weren't willing to break the law commit violence or go to jail for me.

For my entire life I voted as an independent. Trump convinced me to align with the Dems.

I cannot believe this man who has no honor, no morals, no alledgence to anyone but hmself. Is now running to avoid going to jail. If he is not convicted and sent to prison, We will be headed for some serious problems within this country.

Why isn't this on television it's so important

It was the failure to convict by the Senate that was the pivotal moment.

I wish he HAD left the Republican party. The Republican party has betrayed those of us who don't buy into the cult.

I simply don't care if this is the end of the Republican party. They have chosen this path and have had multiple opportunities to turn it around and chose not to. They have zero remorse. I simply do care if they cause the end of our democracy.

He's running to keep out of Jail

I am not voting for a king. I am voting blue 💙.

Covid got too big- He screamed quit testing! He started losing the presidential race- He screamed stop counting! 😂

34:22 If he returns to White House - there will be no longer a country you want to be a resident of.

The GOP will go down with Trump

Yes, those good Republicans should be speaking out. John McCain would speak out if he was still here.

This is how malignant narcissism works. I never would have believed it except that I observed it happening on a job I once had. A co-worker wanted my job. She verbally assaulted me, smeared me behind my back, projected her weaknesses onto me. Wonderful people who were good friends turned on me to be loyal to her despite her obvious lack of skill. Good people changed, actually reversed. Sound familiar? Fortunately, I knew about narcissism from a psychiatrist I had worked with years before. It didn't stop the loss of the job and friendships from being painful, but at least it make it feel less personal. The biggest mistake we made was not listening to the mental health professionals who tried to warn us. That was a bullet we did not dodge.

His followers will watch him "martyr" himself going to his many trials and then vote for him. Terrifying. It is truly a bizarre phenomenon to be witnessing.

*Nope! As of June 2015, the GOP ... the ORIGINAL GOP ceased to exist. The party of your parents/grandparents no longer exist. Not even a hint of it, sadly.*

I just love the way he uses ‘we’ to his cult when talking about what HE is being charged with! His simple minded cult members eat that up with a spoon

Somebody needs to write a book “Tired of Whining”

GOP will never get rid of the stench of Trump. Ever.

The problem is that the best Americans have to find a way to stop letting the worst ones boss them around.

The GOP is the party of family values = Manson Family values.

I think it's important for all of us to remember that Jonathan Swan confronted Trump with the Covid death stats & Trump couldn't follow what he was saying. Trump kept insisting that America's Covid response looked bad because we did too much *testing*. He was nuts & Swan really handled it perfectly.

Thank GOD for all the great journalists who have given Americans the real news. Stay strong and keep doing what you do best. GOD BLESS OUR 🇺🇸 AMERICA.

Stop talking about a second Trump term and start talking about why it can’t he allowed to happen and what should be done to prevent it!

I want to add that I as an America stand with both Jonathan Karl and Jonathan Swan and all Americans who stand against Trump's wanting to be dictator of our America!

Can you imagine how complicite the GOP is in reinstating Trump as a strong man.

What haunts me is that there is a minority yet not insignificant number of "Americans" who want this. Forget politicians, there's no way I can identify with their nepotistic circle-jerking, but I don't even know my own countrymen anymore.

I LOVE that for the last 250 years the Constitution was working fine. BUT NOW all of a sudden, it's ''Poorly Worded.'' "Vaguely Written." , "Uncharted Territory'', and ''Open to a lot of interpretations.'' It that were really true then how the hell were we able to get this far?

I wonder what someone as Mitch MConnell thinks about the monster they created, did one ever ask him?

If you are not registered to vote so you can stop Trump in the primary……why not?

Everything Trump touched, he destroyed.

That is why the two key trials - Jack Smith’s and Georgia’s need to be televised live.

Nowhere for Republicans to go after Trump except to therapy/rehab

The final children's book should be about how he was the first president in history to go to prison for organizing a violent overthrow of an election that he clearly lost. Oh, and he stole a trove of top secret national security documents.

Jonathan seems to forget , if Trump gets reelected there won't be any courts that will rule for reporters to be allowed in press conferences. Ignore the real threat Trump poses at your own peril , the rest of us won't court Trump for the next book deal , we'll be working hard to make sure everyone we know & who they know & who they know , votes blue to keep Trump out of the White House..

I've never heard anyone discuss what is a strong appeal of Trump - the fact that he is a serial sexual abuser of women. A lot of people really admire that, especially the young, white male disaffected types. And the deluge of death threats don't come from a vacuum either. Lots of people get off on sending death threats. Much of his base aren't so much political extremists as highly psychologically damaged.

Congratulations Mr. Karl on getting under Trump’s skin! From down here in Texas!

"FEAR AND COMPLACENCY" ....a core toxic combo. Thank you for IDENTIFYING that.

this is a fantastic conversation, and a supremely frightening one.

Donald Trump--thirteen years old forever.

I have been watching American Politics since 2015 and was concerned since then. Now, seeing the progression of former President Trump is making me fearful for the United States and the residents there. Thank you for the great interview and discussion.

The Commonwealth Club is an absolute treasure of reasonable conversation. Great program!! Two of my favorite journalists in America. BRAVO!!

Trump shared classified documents to others at Bedminister

Jon Carl is one of the best reporters/writers on the Trump debacle. I hope we can get through this dangerous time of Trump lunacy.

To follow Trump around like he did, he must have a really low gag reflex.

Absolutely terrific interview, thank you very much, Jonathans.

I have watched many videos from Jonathan Karl -- this conversation is the best.

Did he really think Trump read a book? Someone told Trump he was a bad word 😂

Thank you Adam, you and your colleagues for standing up for our country, I wish everyone stand up and impeach Trump, we would be in a better position

I admire both of these men. I will never forget when Jonathan Swan did an interview with Trump and Jonathan made him look like the moron he is. He asked Trump some hard question he could not answer and did he look stupid. Since that interview, I have not seen Swan reporting. Happy to see him again. This was a very interesting interview.

Thank you, thank you, thank you! Great reminders and great new info for my understanding of what we've lived through.

A second Trump term culminates in a real Coup!

This was a very enlightening interview! I was nervous before that he may get another 4 years, but now thinking about the fact that he learned how to work the system and how to get what he wanted, makes me sick to my stomach! There is no talk of policy, no mention of what he plans to do for "US" the people. Instead, it's all about Trump! How can a country of this size let one grifter seize the country and fool so many? It's all mind-boggling, and tragic that so many people trust him and don't see what he really is! Thanks for a great interview and a civilized debate! It must have been VERY difficult putting all of this down on paper. I can't imagine!

This is was an excellent inside to the mind of donald. Pretty sure I have your first book, Jonathan! I started reading but was terrified and stopped. Thank you for being willing to look whats happening to the country straight in the eye.

Your guest filled in a lot of important details & reminded us of more. Thank you.

I had NEVER voted before 2016. Once dump was elected I could see the disaster in the making and immediately registered independent. 62 year old white male from a heavily republican home and district. My advice? NEVER VOTE REPUBLIKKKAN

Jonathan Swan is an absolute gem in 2 countries of United States and Australia, and Jonathan Karl is an American Treasure. I was talking with an Australian friend about Jonathan Swan’s interview with the former guy during Covid-19 pandemic and how aggressive and to the point he was during that conversation, and he replied that actually the Australian reporters have toned down their style compared to 40 plus years ago when they absolutely savaged the lying politicians!! I just said Wow, that’s incredible.

Nobody needs to hear the whole disgusting message because we've all heard it before. Mainly in the school playground.

Ex-Republicans, the quiet wave coming.

My 2 favourite Jonathon journo’s together. Yay. Thank you.

When Trump said "Drill drill drill" he wasn't talking about oil. He was telling us that he plans to use the USA Military against those who protest his Fascism.

Kudos to both brilliant Jonathans! I would love to see more from you two together! 🇺🇸💙🇺🇸

Excellent discussion. I learned a lot. Thank you.

You both deserve gold medals. Buy more Karl books as stocking stuffers. Do it for me...thanks.

Thank you JK for all your great work and honesty. We need it desperately.

" Oh, foolish woman: You knew I was a snake before you let me in"

Wow ! What an interview ! Yes, we are seeing very important history unfolding in front of our eyes and nobody knows what's next - Anything can come next, and don't forget the instability the world is going throug right now. A very explosive concoction Thank you to both of you for this very good conversation.

The grand old parody was broken beyond repair long before Donald Trump.

I love both of these Jonathon's. My favorite interview I liked with Trump was with Jonathon Swan during covid and he was calling Trump out on his lies. When Trump had those charts and he couldn't even read them didn't know what he was talking about. Loved the look on Jonathon face and he didn't let Trump say all the stupid stuff and everyone is suppose to let him get away with it and thinking we are stupid. Always loved Jonathon Karl looking forward to reading his book. Hope we can get some interviews with Trump by them . They don't let Trump say his stupid stuff and lies. They call him out.

As an Australian, I can't believe how Frump still has Americans who are gullible enough to support him, let alone, do his deranged bidding.

It is your responsibility as a reporter and the media's collective responsibility to make SURE people are getting the ACCURATE information from that trial. It is our responsibility as citizens to look for, and listen to what you tell us as the "person" on the inside, and use common sense and intelligence to determine for ourselves who is giving the reasonable, logical and legitimate information. Unfortunately this is not televised... which would have been optimal. We need reporters in there who will make sure the accurate info is made Widely available.

Yeah, I’m pretty sure that Trump “not going by the law” is NOT a “what if?”.

For one fleeting moment I felt a twinge of sympathy. I shook it off and went back to cutting my onions for dinner.

Have you ever noticed that a good man learns from his mistakes and an evil man learns to be more evil from his mistakes

You guys are GOATs. Great discussion, gentlemen. I

It is far past time to Flush This Turd and all the other floaters in the bowl!!

Just imagine that some people prefer a failed business man, a draft dodging coward, a tv reality figure, a 4 times indicted 91 charged felon.. instead of a man with more than 50y as a civil servant, commended for his diplomacy skills and work across the aisle, a man who shows decency, humility, care and respect!

I really enjoyed this chit chat Johns (I think your names are spelled differently). As a Kiwi watching from afar it's top of mind that what happens in America affects us all

You say that his running for president again because of the drive he felt...however, he actually announced his candidacy because it was the only way he could circumvent going to jail.

Two very intelligent and articulate journalists. Thank you. How can anyone seriously consider voting for Trump? It's all completely bananas. And horribly sad, too.

You have done an amazing job of selling your book. I can't wait to buy and read it. This is information that I didn't know. Thank you Johnathan Karl!

excellent interview and so informative

more of we the people than Dumps team !!! 🙏💙💪

Only Stink Pot could ruin a political party. The same guy who couldn’t keep a casino business afloat. Pathetic.

The best part is they did it too themselves

Psychiatry has said from the beginning jail is the only answer. I suggest a military hospital in a supermax. Medication.

It’s the “oranges”, not the origin story.😂. Not so funny when the Covid mortality numbers were North ⬆️of 500,000.

I never thought they were "grand" in the first place

. . . All who serve in highest political positions in our Nation's Government whose primary loyalty must be for the U.S. Constitution and not a particular party or any one individual. These individuals who serve must insure the safety, security and well-being for all the peoples of this Great Nation . . . 😎

Thank you so much for this conversation!

The story that was revealed by both Jonathans concerning how the RNC chief, Ronna McDaninel, called Trump on his last ride on the official Presidential Helicopter to thank him for his work on be half of the GOP and then Trump lashes out and says he’s thinking of quitting the party and forming his own party and she begs him to reconsider as she makes clear that not only will he not win but that the GOP will lose as well, followed by his reply that they deserve to lose because they didn’t muster enough strength to ensure that he remained in office regardless of his historical loss, and then her changing her tone of begging to that of threatening him with withdrawing his access to his main source of income vis the GOPs mailing list and then his eventual caving in to that threat and remaining with the party that he actually hates, wow, that was so very revealing of his true nature! How many of his diehard supporters would hear this story and still follow him is more mind-boggling but what a great thing it would be if there ever were to emerge a recording of this amazing exchange! Thanks to the two Jonathans for this fascinating conversation and be sure that we the public have your back and would stand in between you and the jackboots coming to take you away to Gitmo. The free press is always on the side of the people and if there are media companies that do the bidding of dictators, rest assured that they are not free and that any free thinking individuals have been rooted out and discarded by the dictatorship and its allies. Targeting the journalists who reveal the lies and deception and intimidation of an authoritarian leader or administration is always an objective of a dictatorship. As soon as we hear the words like “the press is the Enemy of the People” we should all know that the speaker harbors authoritarian aspirations and is on the way to forming a dictatorship.

At minute 26, you recall Trump's announcement in Nov 2022 to run for election. You don't mention the primary reason for him announcing at that time: He was convinced that the DOJ was holding off charging him so as not to affect the mid-terms, and that they would now proceed since the mid-terms were over. Trump believed that if he was running, the DOJ couldn't indict him because it would be too political. In fact, by announcing he was running, he gave Merrick Garland the perfect opportunity to appoint a special prosecutor, to avoid all appearance of political influence. So, T****p ended up getting charged anyways, but now it was at arm's length from the DOJ. As usual, he calculated poorly and ended up hurting himself.

Like trump has read his book? Like trump has read ANY book????

Read Arendt ‘Origins of Totalitarianism’ for the dictator’s playbook. It’s all there, and we are falling for it. His trials are his campaign.

" TRUMP WAS NOT EATING" HAHAHA... so ridiculously...OH KEVIN

All you have to do is look at Putin, and all he has in his pocket. Also look at China and N. Korea. Its possible for a person to pull this off, and there are those who will line up to help them.

The media needs to find a way to fact-check during Trump's rants as he comes out of the trial. In other words, delay the coverage and insert the fact checks after each inaccurate Trump statement. The fact checks could be done by an anonymous nondescript voice that would help to alleviate the appearance of a specific reporter's bias. Due to time constraints, they could then announce the uncut version is available on their websites.

Would you rather leave your children in the care of the Trumps or the Bidens?