Jordan Peterson - What Kind Of Job Fits Your IQ 

Likely still overqualified :)

Seems to be above average relative to these last few examples

You've got my vote!👏

Yup

COME ON MAN!

Found a new job at Burger King?

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I think he’s at subway

it may be a purposely exaggerated joke, but I heard the highest iq ever recorded was 275. That's insane

Lol

Which should I put in first, the eggs or the water?

This is something I’ve been working on for a while now but haven’t yet got right. I might try using a spoon to put the egg in next time, rather than my fingers.

I hope I can get over the fear of doing my first boiled egg. Maybe in a few years I can be like you. You've changed my life and I feel like I can conquer the world.

@@RickSanchezzzC137 it took alot of practice, went to Tibet for 5 years to master it, hang in there.

So, I can walk and breathe at the same time. Get your weight up.

sounds more like depression, at this point with that IQ and so young in life with an incredible degree to end up like that and not on the best place you could have possibly achieve and blame it at the motivation I would say that could be due to a mental health problem that prevented you from success

similar case but now I am leading ML development in a major SP500

Please dont diagnose people without a degree or proper knowledge ​@@MrGuil1710

It's a well documented phenomenon that individuals with high IQ's often are ofyen not that successful. Seems that success is not a prime motivator for them. They of en realize grinding is not a worthwhile preoccupation when looking back on one's life.

Smart people are among the fastest who realize climbing the corporate ladder isn't worth it.

Biggest troll ever. I love you man, you should be at the top of the comments❤

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#things that neber happened

83 damn I wish I was that smart

Set those goals, man. Head fryer. You can do it!!

exactly what i thought LOL

hahahaha

I think the key takeaway is that you'd prefer to not know you're the smartest The few times in my life I realized that I was talking to someone near my own IQ were absolutely wonderful

New people would come up

Just to be the dumbest in another room

🤣

I feel like you're not that far from the truth lol

true watching retards on tiktok is really funny to me

How under 87 iq people cant even do the simple stuff in society.

Twitter

interesring.

So ur telling me you fell asleep for so long that someone called the police and the police came. But what woke you up was a knock on the window by a police officer and not the honks the other cars surely must have been giving you, or the knocks the other people would have been giving your window before the police came. Sure buddy, sure.... Maybe you should have a career as a creative writer

@@JohnSmith-cw1lfmore likely the cop was patrolling and saw his car stopped.

@@JohnSmith-cw1lf That would be an off thing to lie about

@@Number16BusShelter exactly my point. Why would he. Ask him

Yeah completely true! I had something like 60 IQ before, but now I can talk with Stephen Hawking through telepathic field, ether, and cosmos. BTW, he is not dead, he just transcended to another dimension

IQ of 69 > IQ of 200

you're right, you'll never be expected to succeed. Enjoy those neetbux.

Lool

Thats what a Rick and Morty fan would say

My observation is on 'smart in school' is quite different, I work with many. It seems to often be just good memory, sometimes just that highly driven. They come into the real work with no practical knowledge. And no understanding or intuition to apply the basics of their schooling to actual process. Often failing at the basics of first year concepts. Having the book knowledge to pass a test, with nearly zero actual understanding.

Maybe because the modern society has been shit-talking against IQ.

@@clytle374 memory is a key component of intelligence... Peterson talks about how one key predictor of future success is the number of digits one can keep in their head. However, true intelligence is the ability to create abstractions from specifics, and then to apply those abstractions in a different context to come up with different specifics. For instance, if your car doesn't start and you learn that it's because the battery is dead... and then you realize that all of the components of the electrical system need to be sufficient so when your friend's car doesn't start you can diagnose and fix a loose battery cable. This idea of being 'book smart' but not intelligent is the lack of the ability to generalize, and then to be able to take general knowledge and synthesize an answer to a variant problem in the same or similar domain.

@@johnclifford1911 you are absolutely correct. A flash drive has excellent memory

this is so right. i went to a small private school most of my life, but about 2 years ago i moved and transferred to a big public school. at my private school i was the smartest, but when i moved i realized how many other ppl are at my level and it started to motivate me to do better

@@RyolithRandil Hire some 1 a tiny smarter than you. Should be no problem! :D

OF is always hiring

You're watching the video of an "influencer", which RU-vidrs are (just like Instagrammers and TikTokers), you take their knowledge for free, but comment like you outsmart them. You, sir, should have your own dictionary entry under "arrogance".

Or maybe you're smarter because you have more time to do things with your family a more flexible job you get to stay at home and you get to do things that you love oh yeah that's a stupid person LOL if you're successful if you know that you have the ability to be successful at it then it's different if you're just playing around and wanting to get out of life then that's a different kind of person but being an entrepreneur is not for the ignorant weak or lazy

Or you could be a troll👍

@Ti Klim that went from 0-100 real quick

Ya'll know WAY too much about dolphins. Also, their one of the only organisms that can go at it everyday without injuring themselves

Root those hot mermaids.. Bob

Dolphins are humans evolved, Bob.

Make a youtube video doing it and you'll probably get hella views. 🙂

Did you try acting?

@@michael4192 i think he might have. Not sure

I can definitely relate. I graduated in May 2020 with my bio degree, but there were no lab jobs available at that time -- especially for someone who just finished school. I did EMS for a while, it was in demand and medical-adjacent, but oh my god... during tech school and during my employment, the people I worked and trained with were dumb as bricks sometimes. Just, plainly incompetent, couldn't handle pressure, sucked at taking vitals, I would have to do everything. That wasn't with every partner mind you, but on average... I'm back in the lab now, and it's heaven compared to being on an ambulance. Dealing with competent folk seriously is a blessing. Makes me feel for all the truly smart people that get pigeon-holed into these menial positions.

@Vlad Xavier quadratics is like grade 10 math

@@gurgy3 and what's that?

Story of my life

Yes. I wont be able to become a manager in my company because I dont have a private life, at least not one other managers could relate to me with. This makes me an outcast they dont welcome in their circles.

Depends what sort of job you are doing and the scale of the company. At large multinational companies there is no one incompetent at executive level because bad decisions cost the board and investors billions of dollars, also the problems they deal with will be much harder due to the size of the company. On the other hand i can totally see a dumb ass becoming manager at a small firm due to favoiritism

yeah what he failed to mention is that most higher jobs deal with social mechanisms not technical and decision making, you have lot of company owners and high ranking people who are very not smart and know nothing about the technical or strategical side of things, they just work it up socially and by political play inside the company, you can`t make your best programmer into the boss, cause if you do who is going to program??? so you make the worst programmer into the boss, he just have to be somewhat social, and the less smart you are the more likely you are to be good at socializing and being extroverted, and them you just hire smart people to do the technical things, the only place where thing will really require someone smart again is in the top CEO and the like positions, because he has to take decisions on a strategic level and change the whole company before competition outruns it.

And you forgot looks

This was a great comment, thank you. I have an IQ of 120 and I share your same problem. I’m a mid neurotic and low conscientiousness. And I can tell you the low conscientiousness can undermine the high IQ because I have a bias for laziness, basically. It’s damn near impossible to change as well.

I can see where low conscientiousness would be dangerous in metallurgy. I wonder whether you have kept all your body parts.

He burned his peepee. Nasty Timmy.​@@TheFirstManticore

​@@fastingman4726 maybe is depression, not laziness

@@midnightdew I’ve worked on this a myriad of ways and I discovered it’s more dopamine depletion than anything. I stopped eating processed food and sold my Xbox. Then I started fasting longer 72hrs once a month and taking cold showers and it helped my motivation and “conscientiousness” a shit ton. I wasn’t depressed at all, just dopamine depletion causes low motivation.

Well said

Just know that hard work will never let you down

@@kaydens6964 You clearly never attempted anything hard. Your hard work ammounts to absolutely nothing if you are too dumb for the problem. You could sit there for a year and don't derive a solution that another person gets within moments.

Please feel free to review my videos on 'succeeding without brilliance'. I am about to release a few lectures, focusing on how cognitive pariahs can find solace in a world, alien to them otherwise.

Ahh a jack of all trades person.

I couldn't deal with stress either I had to stop. You're right

This has always been my mindset. I'd much rather have a job that doesn't pay as much if it is less stressful and I don't have to take anything home with me at the end of the day. Money is a means to an end, not the end all be all for me.

@@abrahamalsaeedi8745 Believe it or not I work at a public utility wastewater plant doing a variety of things from laboratory work, equipment repair, to plant operations. I work outside most of the time and never bring my work home with me. The best as I’m sure you will appreciate is no clients to deal with.

Reflection is more important than Intelligence to be happy and also to have success in long terms. Many Intelligent people never reflected themselves.

Its the same to me. I value a lot more my free time and peace of mind than money.

Right... because there's so many stories of success from people who won the lottery. There's also no stories of artists losing all their money, that's just a myth. If you are aiming for having a rich parent, you should as well wish to live in a monarchy, so your money will be protected regardless of how dumb you are.

You know that IQ is a way better predictor of success in life than income of parents? Nice cope bro

@@csPinKie if you can’t pay for a good education to nurture your high IQ, you’re getting nowhere. It’s not what you know, it’s who you know.

@@gr02mc I dont see how that is an argument, it is incredibly easy to get your education for free if you are extremely talented.

I have worked my whole life to try and get rich parents I know I am also there.

thank you for your comment. I struggle with emotions and assertiveness so I get economically and emotionally abused. I got to work my ass off on the therapy, I'm super excited!

You only see comments about people's own IQ being above average because the ones having an average IQ are insecure seeing the others, it makes them feel dumb and have no point of writing about jobs because they may think it fits them already.

Drawing from my knowledge of the idiocy of internet comments over 20 years, it is really hard to evaluate those kinds of comments. There's so many other instances of lying and exaggeration on the internet that believing these elitist "I made 7 figures out of college" posts just scream vulnerable person trying to concoct a self-important image on internet comment boards lol. Of course, I don't know for sure, but my intuition tells me at least half of those messages are, to use the technical term, bullshit.

The dude who thinks nobody lies on the internet probably has a high one.

@@lmUndefeated no need to feel insecure... they're lying people with an IQ over 160 is statistically proven to be excruciatingly rare.

It's because IQ is shit measure of intelligence ...

damn bro. Im 130. Though over here we use metric IQ.

Mine says, "One at a time!"

@@thecarman3693 that shows you have multiple intelligences.

Hahahaha

Your humor IQ is 500

One of the highest IQ people in the world worked as a bouncer at a bar.

@@DavidOfTheSouth just know med school is long and tough. A lot of people don't finish then get stuck with the debt. Know your self and if you have the maturity and endurance to make it through the or program. But I wouldn't waste your scholarship either

@@geraldfrost4710 Yep, his name escapes me, but he's a savant. He was read at the age of two. Incredible. But I understand why he has a simple job. Its sad how his solutions to many of math's most difficult unaswered problems have been rejected and gone unpublished because he's not of their ilk, not having gone through the academy. They academies of Austria and Europe rejected Einstien as well at first. He had a heck of a time getting published - Godel too.

@@DavidOfTheSouth I agree with Wesley Owens. Don't waste the scholarship. Becoming a sergeon is very honorable but intense and requires steady hands, nerves and a sharp mind. If you have what it takes, please go for it. We can use all the gifted hands we can get! Becoming an Electrician (especially if you join the Union as I did eventually, or become a contractor - if you've got the entrepenuer itch) can be quite lucrative, depending on where you live (New York, San Fran, San Jose, and across the SF Bay pay the most and many electrician travel to these place- especially these CA locations as the pay is 2-3x more - though these area are harder for small contractors - small cites and right to work states are more conducive for this). It is rewarding, and there are lost of opportunities for advancement once you've become a Journyman. You always work with a team of folks, so the commradere is cool. Let this be you plan B. But get your degree if its for free. Set your mind to it, stay focused and dont give up. You can do it, and look to God and your community for support. May you achieve your goals - and dont let the girls distract you, get established in your career first and then choose the woman you want to build a future with, marry her and devote your life to her and your family. You wont regret it. God bless.

I can 100% relate... im driving a Volvo Wheel loader 😂 and listen to podcasts and audiobooks all day... For years i was the guy who did it all at the job site, but i always felt like im waisting my time because job isn't satisfying and at end of the day doesn't really get me any where, but at least now im somewhat satisfied because i can actually "use" my time meaningfully behind the wheel of the loader 😂.. higher education didn't do much for me since i graduated in 2011 in the middle of recession 🤷🏻‍♂️

but nobody is lying about their IQ, I have 147 IQ for example

It’s because people who comment their IQ are generally people who are happy to post their IQ and therefore they’re all gonna be higher numbers. For example, my IQ is 142, and if it was 102, then I would either lie about it or not post it in the first place.

@@nobodycares41431 That is indeed very true, and I could see a few people lying about their IQs. However, it is also important to consider that some people took inaccurate online tests that inflated their IQs, and I can say that a lot of them are inaccurate because I can easily score 170+ on those, even though I’m obviously not at that level. As someone who has done a proper IQ test, they don’t give you nearly as much time as in the online tests, because I remember them giving 15 minutes (there is a decent chance of misremembering because I was 6 at the time, so take this with a grain of salt).

I’ll even the numbers, 113IQ here, nothing interesting

And I’m a research analyst what a coincidence

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Whats so special about his pronunciation of leisure? I really dont get it English is not my native language

@@CRegensche1n he’s pronouncing it in British English which sounds more astute

@@CRegensche1n nothing special, it's the way it's supposed to be pronounced. I guess the people laughing are Americans, which says it all.

@@HH_1988 Careful mate, your arrogance is showing.

@ThatOne its because speaking as an engineer (mechanical) as well as a tradesman (welder/fabrication) most engineers have never worked a day in their life. What I mean is they have only ever had in class knowledge which is why the running joke is if you cant make it as an engineer you become a civil engineer and just approve plans. But all engineers who are only book smart and don't understand field conditions or people are the reason things fail. Take wind turbines when they explode into flames, why do you think that happens? Because during the test the engineer ask well whats the highest winds and temperature in the area and what are the chances it will occur to justify the cost. Anything over 10 percent justifies the cost anything under does not so if the chance of a freak storm coming in is low they don't guard against it and the turbine will fail. Or they don't account for people. And humans will stress things to the max, which is why tension straps labeled at 5k pull actually can go to 6 or 8k but they dont say that because they know humans will only go slightly above the max if on there by a few hundred. Hence why smart people tend to be world dumb. Im not that smart myself, but I love being a mechanical engineer and fabricating my own things. Got certified as a welder just so i could make and sell my what I want or travel and work incase something happens.

@@TyphusVonElder That sounds cool? What sorts of stuff do you make? There’s this dude on RU-vid named michaelcthulhu who makes weapons out of junk and scrap for fun / to sell them. He calls himself a “welder of sorts.” Then there’s that Wintergatan dude who made the musical marble machine that went viral a few years back. I’ve always found it interesting when people have the skills to just make whatever they want no matter how crazy.

@@redking36 as my side job/hobby i make lift kits for trucks, custom tables/counter tops and making custom weight racks all locally here in Hawaii. I used to do pipeline welding while I waited for my current job as an engineer for a fire trainer for the navy. If you are gonna take up welding its all about technique. Once you learn your rhythm and understand how much heat to apply the rest comes. Remember to clean the metal, have a wire wheel and sanding disc for the grinder and stay as long as you can in the class and burn as much rods as you can to learn.

@@TyphusVonElder fucking true. That’s exactly what my professor in Materials Testing said. When you see a limit for a certain material, that’s only the yield limit or the rounded down number. You never refer to maximum limit because that exact reason. If I’m gonna design something, I’ll set the worst possible conditions and worst quality material as the base.

Pi=3

Perfect, you've found something that works for you. I personally don't think a job HAS TO BE immensely intellectually stimulating, so long as you get that from some other area of your life (e.g. the process of making music)

How did you get your IQ authoritatively tested? Just curious if you have any interesting resources I am unaware of.

You sound like a non hyper conscientious person so those kinda jobs are actually perfect man look at engineers or electricians and shit like that's actually requires a fair amount of intelligence but nothing brain breaking glad you love your work man

@@BuddyLee23 are you a doll collector?

We are all fitting rugs to some degree

IQ theory is garbage. Too many pitfalls

I got 112 when I took one. I get so stressed doing tests that I smoked weed on all my exams last semester, so I go all A's vs. my usual B's and C's on exams 💀. It was accounting, stats, and eco classes. At least I have 0 social anxiety, and I excel in social situations. I've also somehow always ended up in leadership roles (team captain of sports, managing at work, managing school projects, and I'm typically the person that talks in presentations).

I’m the same way. I’m more intelligent than most people but I can’t deal with stress, so I blame social anxiety for my failures.

Yeah sure buddy 145 IQ...

This is so true. I have an absolute "high-IQ-job", but the other day I was at a really packed restaurant and the waiter's job appeared SO stressful to me, I couldn't have done it even for 2 hours. No chance.

was the IQ test time base or do it as you can ? i kinda suck at ones that limit the amount of time i have to answer a question but if i have all the time i need, score higher.

@@bencoad8492 I'm a fast thinker, but there appears to be an inverse correlation with the speed and complexity of which a mind can handle.

Having studied something doesn't mean you were any good at it. And starting your comment "Id did an IQ test one day" isn't strengthening your case. I see why you would want to discredit the tests though.

@@kronk358 Yea...I'm a french native speaker and " did " and " passed " can be used the same way in french. But as you judge the intelligence based on a grammar mistake without knowledge of this person's background, I understand why you would want to give credit to IQ test. And yes, I never put any effort in w/e I did in my life. I never studied at home. I never took anything seriously. I didn't even took seriously this IQ test and answered randomly to some questions as it was just too boring to solve the problems. The only thing I've put effort into is programming, because I like it. Many people are like me and don't give a shit of social recognition. Which all these scores, grades and bullshit are about: Social credit and social recognition.

@@kronk358 You are so petty for using grammar as an argument

That's a smart move

Ngl you are the smartest guy here

Smort

aww...

You never know. Even if everyone has more experience than you, they could still be stupid.

@@kaylag5043 isn't that the cold hard truth

Experience and intelligence is different

Depends where you work. Most software engineers are pretty trash

Thats not being the stupidest guy its being the most inexperienced in the room

to be fair they are med students, they are much more familiar with the material than you, regardless of weather or not you hold a bachelors in another field.

@@Terrancewright-w4b appreciate that

@@Terrancewright-w4b memorization and competence are not the same

As a med student who took an EMT class I can also affirm that a lot of it is familiarity with the material beforehand. I still struggle with a lot of information, and it takes a long time to get the new stuff down!

Old comment but don't worry. Most doctors I have met are raging idiots who can only regurgitate information.

In community college I see some people were faster than others but not by a lot. I think people rarely studied. In university almost everyone seem to be around same speed. Possibly because everyone is above average iq. Above average function brains arent all that different right? Learn too fast you know too many useless details. Learn too slow and you know nothing. Most of difference should be from hours studied. I studied around 5 hours daily and got mostly top grades.

I studied my ass off in college. Definitely requires persistence. Most people are just too lazy to graduate

Peterson explains that it's more than just about IQ

Grind all you want, but you have to have the capacity to comprehend the subject. I've seen amny people grind harder than I did for an associates degree and they didnt make it.

Absolutely, @Landril. Discipline and grit make the difference between a brilliant underachiever and an average person who succeeds.

yeah its not accurate to real life

The grouping is arbitrary and probably not backed by actual reserach and just speculation on his part. However the general ideas are very important: getting jobs for low IQ people is a hard social problem, high IQ tech geeks which will automatize much more work than ever before in the next decades are a problem, being too smart or too stupid for your job is a problem that can cause mental health issues. It's hard to generalize to whole classes of jobs and most jobs will differ due to the specific work environment, structure of the company, local economic situation and so.. I guess the point is that you should start to worry if you are in the right job if feel that you are either over- or underwhelmed by it. Which isn't necessarily a groundbreaking advice or a genius insight by Peterson either.

I think that he had the old data. The job had became more complex with time.

@@lampyrisnoctiluca9904 no matter the time or region, specific job and unskilled labor can't be in the same difficulty bracket

@Ha Ha unskilled labor is a job that you dont need any prior knowlege in order to preform the task. There is no shame in doing theese things and those who do theese things for a living are not dumb. But the whole point of unskilled labor is that anyone who is mentally and physically sound person can do it.

They all watch Rick and Morty lmao

theres probably a pretty strong correlation between having a high IQ and clicking on videos about IQ, you know because people dont want to watch a video that tells them theyre dumb.

@@TheSuperappelflap truth

@@TheSuperappelflap I doubt it, it's probably a combination of the Dunning Kruger Effect and shitty online IQ tests

@@TheSuperappelflap Dumb people don't usually know they're dumb.

this from the group that builds us bridges and airplanes.....

@@robbybee70 The engineers that build bridges are licensed and intern for 5 years. They are highly competent. The engineers that build planes and rockets are usually mentored and work on subsystems and learn as they go. They are highly competent. I'm one of those people that have worked on rockets AND bridges......I'm highly competent.

@@billgillette2859 and yet the humor of my post went right over your head.....

@@robbybee70 few engineers actually build the thing they design.

@@SynterraSteen *rubs head* tough room.....tough room

+ metoo, good thing that brain is a muscle and there is always a way to increase intelligence, like in sports; just many people don't work hard enough

​@@LaplacianDalembertian This ^ I heard IQ is basically cognitive functions. So exercising your memory, attention, reasoning etc. should increase your IQ too

@@MariaRU-vid-pt3cz Ye, the basic cognitive function exercises: playing musical instruments, hand writing, solving math problems, physics problems etc.

Depends on the company and type of engineering/engineers you're working with... Not all engineers are created equal. There's definitely some that are at a much higher level (IQ and the engineering school they attended). I could easily see you feeling that way around guys/gals that are engineers that are at the top of their field and went to places like MIT, Cal Tech, etc... They're on a whole different level than your average, barely squeaked into a state school engineering program.

@Ha Ha ha ha

@Ha Ha he didn't get it.

@Ha Ha ha ha

I did some semi-official could have been 100% legit and got 87... But the thing is i was so drunk i had to close one eye so i could read the damn questions 😂... I've done official test in my younger days and know the "ballpark" range im at and you can at least 30 points to my drunken score... But I've decided that im never going to find out the exact number, because it doesn't matter to me, I've been called "extremely intelligent" by multiple people and it has usually happened in extremely stressful situations where i broke out of character.... I've learned to"play dumb" to get along, sadly it's a must where i live...

You’re lying, that’s too low

Please feel free to review my videos on 'succeeding without brilliance'. I am about to release a few lectures, focusing on how cognitive pariahs can find solace in a world, alien to them otherwise.

Yeah, but maths is also pure theoretical. I’ve met those same kind of people that solve equations in an instant, but never change the oil in their car until it breaks down on the side of the road. They also typically have a hard time conveying the information to others.

@@NNNMTWRH71 Absolutely NOT true.

So if you're over IQ130, yet still too dumb to work out what would fit you best, what would you suggest? Asking for a friend!

@@NNNMTWRH71 You can't learn speed and that is one of the things that seperate people. Most problems have some algorithm you can learn and get better at, but the most intelligent people figure it out faster.

Funny. I was the opposite. I find Uni stuff too easy.

@@janewick509 I'm studying mathematics in a good university and even those who are really good (and I'm not kidding, these guys are just insane) never said "I find it too easy". I can hardly believe your words

@@janewick509 maybe you just went to a garbage university

this was exactly my experience, it was good made me humble

@@janewick509 oh, well then you must've developed some new, groundbreaking theorems!

Shame your job will be replaced with AI soon.

Hey man, my IQ is also 119 and I have extreme OCD that it’s the last score in the “high average” before superior and just one point below 120. Does it also bother u or am I tripping for nothing?

​@@nick_is_dicedIQ really doesn't mean that much. A article point is even more meaningless and well with the margin of error of all established tests. Don't stress over this :)

How did you manage to switch? Please do tell, I may do the same

​@@esmaeelsamhan8161I went for a Service Desk position and moved up from there. Very entry level, so you don't really need much to pass the interview for an IT Service Desk, just a 'can-do attitude'. I guess that's one option, the other option would be to do some certifications in your own time, whilst working another job, and see if you can get in at the next rung of the ladder, but I found that Service Desk folk generally only worked about 3 years on the Desk before being good enough to move on up to 'Second Line'. Even from there, the money is decent. I was fortunate to get spotted by a 'Third Line' manager building an application for the Service Desk to use, to make some remote fixes easier, and they hinted for me to apply for their team so I got to jump up quickly, but even moving through Second Line you could get to a Third Line job in 5-7 years from simply starting on a Service Desk.

What you have observed, if it didn't already occur to you, is the difference between a liberal and everybody else.

@@sonnydelight5737 The very implication that there is a pure and clear difference between the value or lack thereof regarding one group versus all other people on the planet is the dumbest thing I wish I'd never have to hear again.

Intelligent people don't build wealth. They make sure they get enough, plus a bit in reserve just in case. What's the point in collecting wealth, except bragging rights? If you have enough, is doing what you love to do not more important?

Yeah exactly, well-educated doesn’t always mean you’re high in Intelligence. Shaun Wallace who is a quiz master on the chase and was a mastermind champion had an IQ of around 100. He is a criminal barrister to profession as well.

@@annekekramer3835 You and your wife can live out your years in peace, comfort, and dignity. You can give to all your chosen causes. You can leave behind a financial legacy to your heirs and to your chosen causes. I wouldn't say to remain in a job that you hate, but there had better be a market willing to pay enough for what you choose to do. Your language gives me the impression that you are not plugged into the principles of personal finance. I recommend that you look up Dave Ramsey. He sure helped me.

Well, basically, you are waiting to die. Avoid excitement or avoid stress. If you involve yourself with humans there will be stress. Perhaps a researcher at a distance arctic station.

@@thomasmaughan4798 very true, you can't hijack feeling uncomfortable without sacrificing your life as a result. I'm actually thinking about doing my PhD, that's what I was talking about in the comment.

I would say take jobs for which you are barely qualified and where there is a lot to learn, but the pace isn't insane and neither is the heavy lifting. When you master that job, go get a different one. Do not let them "promote" you to management. You're a thinker, a problem solver. You likely prefer to work alone with minimal supervision, but with ready access to information and guidance.

Become a front-end developer. I'm only half joking.

life doesn't have to be boring just cause you choose not to be ambitious. you can manage your stress while challenging yourself imo.

Seems accurate🤣🤣🤣

Huh?

Same thing happened to me.

I've had a similar life story, I used to be a poor black kid from the wrong side of the tracks, now I'm a rich white dude

sly

I remember learning to walk

He was a handicap. He is the loser.

@@bloomerboi21 nice logic. I guess being in a wheelchair makes nullifies the things he has done and the fact that he was one of the smartest people in the world

People who think that just because I tell them I'm a genius I'm bragging are salty

@@eduardcruceru9004 what has he done?

Well,Stephen Hawking was good in physics,but not in psychology!

I was watching a documentary the other day about a leading cardiovascular surgeon who almost became a truck driver because he liked the idea of seeing different places.

@@Hypersonik he could literally, still do that.

@@lavonnealexander6936 Yeah, he absolutely could.

Based

Sounds like the life I would want to live.

@Wary Trout wi shuld linkup, me hev 42.0 iq, veri persuasiv smart persen yes

Boy do I relate to your comment.

Sure, buddy

You just described, in 26 words, what I suffered through in five years of being Enlisted in the Army.

edgy comment bro mr super megamind man

Yeah but you get a massive boost to creativity. You just have to make it work in your favor.

That was literally me after dropping out of college

@@Thelunarraptor adhd doesn't make you creative. It's a serious impairment that needs treatment....

Or when you graduate with straight As and a PhD so you know you're gifted in that regard. But your social IQ and aniexty are so horrible that you settle with what you have so you don't freak your brain out.

Thissssssss~~~~~~

Its an extrapolated way of telling you to "find" your place. People don't just walk out their doors knowing things. Sometimes you have to be told.

That is all peterson is really pushing. Just rationalizing the social structure. He is a complete fraud

Yes! I definitely agree that it doesn’t measure motivation. My IQ is 149 according to an official test I took this year. I am 14 years old (still in school) and I really dislike it. I’m not motivated at school because I don’t see the point. My passion doesn’t lie in academics or a “smart person” career. I love athletics and working out. I want to become professional in my sport. According to the final exams at my school, I’m not as smart as the people with IQs of 130. However, the results are that way because I wasn’t motivated enough to study, and was sure I would do well (which I did, just not the best in the class)

@@LuluClimber There are definitely aspects about "giftedness" that are or can become challenges in your life. One of those aspects, for example, often is the lack of practise in how to learn and manage learning. The mind gets to the conclusion so fast it doesn't desire those in between steps most people have to take. This takes away on the practice of learning itself. Learning isn't just knowing stuff by memory. It's also knowing how to get to the answer or result following certain steps. One aspect in those steps is management of information. School trains this as well. Now you can pass the exam by raw brainpower (maybe not the best in the class just as you stated), but as you move on life will get more complicated. A lot of gifted people can go through life not feeling particularly smart or intelligent just because of this aspect. I'd say you're doing the right thing following what motivates you instead.

@@LuluClimber yes iq does not predict contentiousness.

@@marklampo8164 You are right, but you will hurt someones ego

sure but you missed the beginning part of Jordan's talk about personality traits. Also based on your IQ range, you are doing something well within that range. Not exactly a high end type of thing being a manufacturing engineer

What is your job/field?

@@Eric3Frog Healthcare. I work at a hospital. Obviously I'm not smarter than some of the doctors and stuff lol, but I do circles around the people in my department. When I don't have patients I play games or watch RU-vid. It's pretty awesome.

I have a relatively high IQ and literally no ambition to climb up the career ladder. I would like to take up professions like these.

@@17h127 why do you say you aren’t smarter than the doctors? They just have more training.

@@Eric3Frog I said some of them, not all. We have a few who are really smart and great doctors.. And of course a few who I wonder how they made it through school lol.

You're damn bloody right he is

canada has more commonwealth style english

I’ve an Irish Catholic farmer as a neighbor in MN, and he uses bloody, by Jove, and several other English sounding colloquialisms, all in a very Minnesotan accent lol

13 Rules for Bloody Life

And it's no bloody wonder!

That means your IQ is very low

I just use slip-ons. Less chance for failure.

That's good

Makes sense that you're an eagle fan.

In the USA: Money In the UE: Passion

Depends . . . But usually money

Passion ofc, but passion needs money so you gotta prioritize wealth first you know health > wealth > success

@@giovannipelissero1886 you mean EU, right?

Smart people can get both. If you have to choose, you're not at the top.

Good observation, probably pretty accurate

Unironically

Yes, that's exactly what Jordan said. "IQ shows how fast someone can learn although it doesn't guarantee that the person can do well what they have learned". He said it in this video but I forgot at what minute

@@MaximuzGW 5:42

I agree. One of the hardest classes I took in college was Physics 120 - Newtonian Mechanics. I worked as hard as I could and got a B. I believe the students that got A's were quicker at understanding everything taught in the course than myself. I do appreciate that professor giving us required reading assignments where we learned well-tested methods for studying and understanding difficult concepts. He really wanted us to have the tools to fully apply our intelligence and succeed. That taught me that the way you study can have measurable impact on your quickness to learn. Though, some people are still just neurologically equipped to learn faster than others 😆

Yqou got any other mental talents? Creativity? Emotional intelligence??

@@minecwaftcat4474 Yeah creativity. 👍

I think he is talking about what work would be best/ what would make you most happy. Not necessarily what reality is

@@salesmanager6050 exactly.

@@salesmanager6050 exactly.

Critical thinking is a problem when you're listening to everyone in a room. I believe that, even if you're the most intelligent person in the world, you will lack concentration on your tasks if you're overwhelmed by a "toxic" job environment. Main reason why smart people go to the librarary. The silence is healthy.

He is right wing economist and will deny it or blame government officials. Because that's not how free market supposed to work ))

I think you're right, I have a slightly higher IQ than my wife, she earns over 4 times what I earn. She can handle high levels of stress, I'm the opposite tho, I worry and get stressed very easily sadly.

That’s me, I have a hair trigger temper and I have no tolerance for people who don’t give the effort. But I’m clearly top of thefood chain at my job and it’s not a fun spot to be. People are jealous and lie about you and actively try to undermine you. I never knew the amount of jealousy just because you know what you are doing. I can have the emotional intelligence of a simpleton because I’m not wired for jealousy or stupidity or laziness. I can be 100% correct on whatever position I take on a given challenge but my lack of the ability to put up with stupidity and my short fuse to let others even my superiors know has gotten me in more trouble lately than anything. I get it it no likes a know it all but I know the profits and revenue that I generate for the company and it’s probably at least double what the next closest person does. I think it might be time for me to broaden my horizons and look for the next opportunity.

That is definitey important.

@@keithchegwin1222 how much does she earn, or what field is she in?

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Where is the source for this?

it obviously is not perfect.

The official mensa test does not give a score to the taker

@@thehollowknerd3858 Maybe not now, but they did when I took the test about 30 years ago.

​​@@KevTheImpalertaking a real iq test cost so much. And you took like 6?

Together with Media Studies, Politics and Sociology.

Ha, yes! My guess would be those in the realms of sociology and psychology, with the latter being more nuanced. Jordan is obviously incredibly intelligent, but I've not encountered many others in that particular field who even come close to him.

@@MackLee23 - My experience is that most Western psychology is quite poor ! The few that REALLY impress me are ALICE MILLER / GABOR MATE ( with an acute on the e [ Do a search for him on You Tube & you get a free taste test - He seems to focus on trauma & resultant addictions, etc ] )& KURT LEWIN - HTH?

@@jimlyon7276 I am very familiar with Gabor Maté and love his work! I will definitely check into Alice Miller. Thank you!

Well in my opinion learning quick is very useful in most of jobs

@@km-hi9or nothing to do with learning quick it’s about being smart in certain areas

Humble.

@@alexk3469 you achieve that by learning

@@km-hi9or I’m talking about high iq is just being intelligent not creative

I'm the same and now I'm out of the finance world. Just too back stabby for my taste. Disgusting vain people honestly.

@@briang4914 what area of finance did you work in?

@@Viper4ever05 financial planning. Edward Jones, Raymond James, and then later on for a smaller bank. You?

@@briang4914 I wanted to work for companies like that but life took me to the Nonprofit space and I hate it. Dealing with state and federal government is one of the most annoying experiences I've ever faced. But I feel like the corporate world won't be any better so I'm not sure where I want to go.

IQ is not a real thing and it is a bad thing to even compare yourselves. Imagine taking an IQ test based on math when living in a country that has poor education or no education at all. Now compare it to yourself who lives in a developed country and passed the required school years. Your second IQ would be way bigger than your first one even though your first is "higher intelligence". IQ is not a real and bad measurement of intelligence. Maybe the only real result would be if both the same person (same education, same life history, almost everything is the same) take a test. My IQ is for example 90-100 in a developed country, Lithuania. Next thing would be to discuss what is intelligence and so on to detail more accurately result cause and effect but no time for this.

There is more then just IQ. If you have the will and patience you can become proficient in the field. 94 is not a low IQ or anything to feel ashamed of. You are normal and a lot of normal people make a great living.

I think there a plenty of jobs, with great co-workers that you can find that will make you happy. Outisde of work you can do other things that make you happy too, you'll find it mate

Try working for IT support for a medium company with good infrastructure. If youre good with computers and can understand the basics, its a perfect job

Have you thought about quality assurance or test automation? Writing automated tests takes a little code but it is easier than development work, and you'd be working with computers. Someone here mentioned IT as well. There are lots of options for working more with computers and less with people that don't involve writing software.

That's remarkably observant -- being good but not quite good enough at something.

Average iq for an engineer is somewhere around 125 which would be considered "superior or very superior ". You are an excellent example that just because someone works in a job that doesn't require high iq it doesn't mean that an individual's iq could not be high.

Derek Berglund; You will not be at the bottom for long.

hey you are me man, i did manual labour for like 8 years I went to community college and did a 3 year undergrad and now i'm doing a masters in Electrical Engineering at a top college in my state... it is crazy going from smartest guy on a construction site to being the dumbest person in your class. Just know that we're only "dumb" because we're not drilled and haven't had the same practice or possibly tutoring and good habits built into these kids from a young age, we're going up against guys who's sole purpose in life was to be top of their calculus class in high school. We aren't dumber than them, we're just less trained. Like on construciton site, if some new kid doesn't know how to use a hammer it doesn't mean he's dumb it just means he hasn't had a chance to learn yet.

I work as a receptionist in a large hotel. Everybody around me has a degree. One of the girls (the senior receptionist) can speak 7 languages and has a degree in something management (idk) all super smart all earning money wage bec they can’t get jobs using their degree lol. I’m going to university next year but they all say, see you in 4 years lol.

@@fadzilicious4411 thats why its important to look at the job forecast. Having a degree is not the same as having a marketable or even useful degree. Same with the languages. 7 sounds impressive, but is she truly fluent in all of them? How many are actually useful in her day to day life? If she has such a knack for languages why didn't she become an interpreter instead? I imagine it took time to learn all of them but was it time well spent? If i, for example, were to become fluent in spanish i could cover 95ish percent of my professional interactions.

From the way that you write and the description of your progress, I'm certain that you're well above average intelligence with the conscientious trait that Peterson mentioned. That is, the need to occupy yourself with a challenge. Determined ambition is a less ambiguous phrase. You haven't increased your innate intelligence, you have used it well for your own benefit and gained a lot of knowledge and experience in the process.

If we don't, Darwin will.

It’s not 83 and below it’s usually below 75 the unemployment rate in America is 5% the math doesn’t add up

@@buttercups616d I speculate too that some companies actually hire some of the people in that range who might cost the company more than they are worth. Not everyone who isn't profitable in an accounting sense is fired and that also included people a little higher up in the IQ ranges who are just lazy.

@xraf32 he's farming now and has a 18" hog that makes up for it

@xraf32 we are Australian and I'm guessing your an American. We are a bit more relaxed about who's better or who's higher up, regardless of rank everyone communicates on the same level here. I'm 58 and married for 30 and neither of us could be bothered starting again.

@@DDDSSDDDSSDDDSS yep, i do have a farm. No hogs though.

woman do not stay with a man who is not higher then them... generally. good luck!

@xraf32Always funny to me that Americans are only the US guys, and all other people on the continent do not consider themself Americans

I thought you had to be a (self-decleared) "stabile genius".

All of the presidents of the united states actually have an iq higher then 160

Confirmed, was in the Australian Army Reserves (University Regiment) whilst studying. Ok a Regiment of smart people you would think ?? The Australian Army is the dumbest organisation in Australia- right up there with Nursing Home staff ( you could swap the workforce and not notice the difference).

The colleagues you refer to were working in the Army to what capacity? I mean, there are different qualifications and different ranges of abilities, even at the enlistee level.

" Two tradies a rocket scientist, a neuro scientist and a human resource manager." That's 4 kids. What about the 5th?

@@JAKE-ng8yr I’m not quite sure how 2x tradies + 1xRS + 1xNS + 1xHRS = 4. What formula did you use?

@@allanoakes7294 ah fuck, I read tradies and a rocket scientist as the same, my bad sorry :D It's 2am for me I might go to sleep haha

When he said that mathematicians are the smartest at university and I'd like to tell you who is at the other end I wonder who he ment

@@lvup7907 I'm just gonna say, universities all over the world offers programs that have zero value in the real world. You often find these kids graduating and complaining that they cant find any job outside of Starbucks, Walmart or a pizza delivery guy.

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You are still knowledgeable in ways that are rare, and to be very joyful with your job is what matters to have the courage and faith that you can achieve such success.

That was basically evolution in a nutshell ;=)

Adaption can also have underlying causes such as charisma and confidence. If you don’t have either of those you won’t adapt

Only problem is someone who is highly intelligent with other issues...ones that would affect "adaptability". That throws a monkey wrench in what you said, I Don't think you are wrong, but only works within that thought.

I have had 23, hands on, hit the road running software dev jobs in about 30 years. Adaptability and creativity is my forte. What is my IQ estimate. I have not tested but an sure it is at least 10-15 points lower than when I started working at age 21.

I don't know if you'd consider me intelligent when compared to the some of the smarter people around the world, but there is one thing that, in my opinion, does not agree with the intelligence=speed argument. And it is that for me, it would usually take me longer to learn something, but once I do, I do it better and learn it on a deeper level than those who have learned and understood it earlier and have done it longer than me. Back in 6th grade, I sucked at math and was behind pretty much everyone, was literally the 2nd worst out of 150 students cuz every class moved at such a high pace that I was lost all the time and didn't give enough time to really digest everything. Then one thing finally clicked and I understood it, Idr what it was, but once that clicked, everything else started clicking and by the time I was in 8th grade, I was at worst a top 5 math student at my school or the best and the only people that surpassed me were those who studied harder than I did. This is not to brag at all, I'm just wondering what you'd call this phenomenon, I don't even know if you'd call this intelligence at all. And a lot of times, the people that were originally better than me forget everything that was taught to them by the time we move on to the next unit.

Said the mechanic

Sounds like he might have made a decent engineer, but if he's happy being the big fish in the pool of mechanics then good for him.

The range of intelligence of people in this field is insane. I'm an aviation mechanic and I've met some incredibly intelligent people at work. I've also met some people who I am surprised remember to breathe lol. The bright individuals usually end up in executive, or at least management, positions and hate it. I think I'll be learning computer programming soon and getting out of the industry. We're far underpaid for the work we do.

@@thorish5033 A retired aviation mechanic recently took over our local auto repairs shop and he does a brilliant job without the high price tag.

Passion would also be a driving factor there.

I agree, I have found that fewer and fewer people can keep up with the technical information. It hard to start at a job and watch work site managers mess up on the daily.

He’s averaging- which means that some trades people will be jets, but since you didn’t understand the basic concept….

Honestly I am quite disappointed with this lecture. He's putting aside the FIELD (Humanities, Mathematics, Technology, Ecc). I've got some highschool buddies who had a burnout as students, not because they chose something they were not good at, but something they didn't like at all, to please their parents. I think this is a major source of failure than a supposed IQ.

I'm a massage therapist, one of the odd parts of tradesmanship and medicine. My job is relatively repetitive.

Lol he called machinists dumb as well He’s a college professor though he doesn’t know how smart you have to be to do certain things s

My IQ is 80 the only job I can do is wash dishes 😭

@@1r0nb1rd I used to have a friend who’s a chemist he got laid all the time he moved away and isn’t my friend anymore I was jealous because he had a fuck buddy I foolishly fell in love with but couldn’t get I guess he needs smarter friends. I’m 33 and I still haven’t got laid.

I want the results but not that dang long ass test

@@dariotatopiola we’re all dumber then that Overrated & Overpaid Elon Musk‼️ who died & made him the richest man on this planet 🌍 currently ⁉️

try mensa Norway

As a machinist in a very modern shop, its so hit and miss. Being blunt, I hire slow people to do the dumb jobs like loading cnc machines and automate their work as much as possible. But i also have some absolute hot shots that work for me that do programming machines, robots, deal with very heavy numbers and must have an unreal concept of mechanics and physics. We hire everyone and make their work match their intelligence. But we also have the capability to do that at this shop.

@@blacklabel6223 At my job all the guys in CAM are manufacturing or mechanical engineers with at least bachelors degrees and the people who are just machinists just do start up and loading.

My iq can be

Any mechanic machinist fabricator plumber heating air-conditioning construction workers are actually more intelligent then most not sure why he puts us at the bottom. I guess it's cus this guy isn't very smart he can't work on cars or fix or build things he's white collar. I'm a transmission mechanic Im 131 iq honestly iq don't mean anything if I studied All the iq test before taking the test imagine how much higher my iq can be. Stupid pencil pushers

Diesel mechanic here. It’s freaking hard lol most folks really struggle with chasing electrical issues. It’s really stressful for anyone. If we left it up to the folks who have natural ability or high intelligence, there would be no one. It’s definitely not simple or repetitive. I work on something different everyday (different problems different machines).

@Pedro Roberts bullshit, here in europe you cant work more than 56 hours a week or 90 hours in two weeks as a truck driver

Exactly why I’m not pursuing that job. The most I want to work a week is 45 hours. I can’t imagine working that much at something for money alone.

@Pedro Roberts Man wasn't designed to work 75H a week. That's just nuts. You're just destroying your body and your mind

75 hours per week is also quite common in Finance

@@sahirkhan6672 So is cocaine

It's known as the "Peter Principle"; people rise to the level where they are "incompetent" in their role. Ultimately at any given job you meet an incompetent employee.

My IQ has been tested, and I'm in the top 95% of the population. That being said, I never went to college, but I have a job that pays 6 figures a year. I am nowhere near the top of my intelligence capability for job role, I grasp most thing faster than the engineers they have here. But as a technician, I have zero desire to be an engineer. There's that conscientious thing Jordan was talking about..I earn 6 figures, but I clock in and out for a 40 hour work week....because I like it that way.

with such IQ you will figure it out :)

same bruv i was tested at my psychologist because of adhd and was told i was in the 98th percentile. Also did one in elementary school and they sent me straight into 2nd grade , i was in 1st grade for about 2 weeks. Still dont know what to do with my life

Took an IQ test and was told "133 up to 149, or it may be even higher". Top 0.4% in a universal test. Didn't know what I'm doing, still don't know what I'm doing. I would rather describe goals as callings in my life, and calling changes. To be grateful and enjoy each day's work is my goal.

@@typicalKAMBlover21 my goal is to be happy in life. Im ok with having a rather simple job, so i dont have to think about the job all the time, but can rather think about whatever i want while working. Tbf im going for a teachers degree atm, but i've just started this semester

I don't see anywhere in the video where JP is pushing a number to define you. He stated the multitude of capabilities that person can have, that can fit different jobs.

I think you'll find that he stressed conscientiousness and stress tolerance quite strongly too. Most other factors have been shown to correlate with intelligence as measured by tests even if you can argue about what, if anything, it actually measures.

I think you've oversimplified your assessment.

A tard is a tard

@@SmileyEmoji42 the other factors may correlate with intelligence as measured by IQ but they are certainly not determined by it.There are also autistic spectrum people with high IQs who struggle in the workplace .I have come across people who score well on IQ tests but are non academic and non ambitious .They don't care.Peterson is generalising too much about IQ levels in this numerical way.

Hes good at articulating things that are common sense to me. And the ones that are dumb, won't know how to use it

It really depends doesn't it? I know some nurses who get by with doing bare minimum, leave all the critical thinking to docs. Then there are others who work and brainstorm right alongside docs, guide baby docs in decision making, and have troubleshooted the patient before ever calling a doc about their problems. It's a job one can do dumb or one can do smart, rather wide range

Intelligence doesn’t determine how hard working you are, or how good you will be at a task

Yeah I've met some dumb nurses. We're talking nurses who can't count medications. They couldn't do basic math. Obviously they were fired, but it begs the question-- how did they even get there to begin with?

@@BadMannerKorea Towards the end of my career, I would check the drugs a lot, didn't want any court cases. Nursing has been good to me.

@The Medical Enthusiast Good to hear, I dont want to be smart, just average. I will sleep in my bed tonight. Thanks.

Some people suck as tests, but are quick learners on actual tasks.

Don't let simplistic fucks like Peterson tell you what you can and can't do. Anyone can grow and many people have smarts that fall outside of academic smarts.

@@jeff9316 nah he's right though, we have to be realistic about things if you have a low iq dont aim above your class its just going to be disappointing

Well you were smart enough to work around it, there's people out there who aren't.

@@jeff9316 IQ isn't academic smarts at all. And having a high IQ isn't necessarily a benefit for some jobs that could earn you a lot of money. Your mistake is thinking Peterson is belittling people with low IQ. He isn't at all. He's just trying to point out how IQ is linked to certain professions. I have a high IQ. That means I know I am not smarter than someone with a lower IQ than me and certainly not 'better'.

Can I ask what trade you are a part of? I am currently working a "white collar" job as a business continuity analyst and am bored out of my mind when I'm not in workshops working with clients. been debating doing a pivot towards a trade instead.

@@zacle2440 Heating and Cooling. Specifically commercial refrigeration. I’d look into your local union. They will teach you everything and provide a clear path into the future.

I love working with my hands - I love metalwork and automotive maintenance. My boss loves to prepare and cook food. Our day job is technology consulting which is understanding an organisation and suggesting what is best in about 2 weeks. If I didn't have that release of manual work, I'd go mad. Sure, I could go and hunt for a C-Suite job, but why would I want to do something like that when it would suck all the time away from me?

I'm right there with you, went to school for electronics and computers, got my certifications, couldn't find any entry level jobs with reasonable pay/commute. I took a job in manufacturing that had a high requirement for education, ended up liking it and made six figures in my first year and most years since. Quite happy with a job the videos says is for someone with an I.Q. 30 points lower than mine.

Same here

Not seeks, but hears to.

Man rises to his own level of incompetency. Meaning your competence keep getting you promoted into higher responsibility until you get promoted beyond your competence. Ergo making you incompetent.

@@MesaperProductions absolutely! The Peter Prescription, the follow-up book basically said it will almost always be put in a situation in which you lack competence and there is nothing you can do about it. I’ve found it to be true in my situation and see it in others! Adapt or fail is the only outcome except finding another position till it happens again.

Your intelligence is fixed but your knowledge isn't

stop giving false hopes we all know you can't just train to become da vinci's

I disagree, I run a computer animation hub where amateur animators collaborate and learn. In all the tutoring I've done I've never met someone who I felt had limited potential. Performance differences seem to be the result of trains of thought, motivation, discipline, guidance, and experience - all of which are moldable. That's always been my experience.

@@Me-wk7dz that only means that you misread their potential. Intelligence is a fixed potential. Putting effort into learning will help one reach that potential but never exceed it.

​@@scifiroel I think defining intelligence as full potential is not ideal, it'd be more accurately applied as realized potential. We never know the full potential of anyone in anything, yet we often can give a general description of their intelligence - but this description is based on their realized actions ie. realized potential. Example: In the context of math we might not describe a dropout as "intelligent", BUT had that dropout stayed in school and studied to receive a doctorates in a field of math then we would describe them as "intelligent" in math. You could say if they were intelligent they wouldn't have dropped out -- but maybe they had bad parents and had to drop out to provide for their siblings

Garbage in garbage out

Pretty sure we can use them to pick up litter and fruits / vegetables.

@@qaaa6759 what about the roots

@@qaaa6759No we can't, because illegal immigration is a constant downward pressure against living wages and providing jobs bottom 10-15%.

You're not allowed to. Why? Because IQ closely correlates with race. Across every continent, in every country. Variance can be significant, depending on individual circumstances, nutrition, and so on, but that correlation is definite and will not go away. After a few peoples' careers were ruined for discussing this (see Richard J. Herrnstein, with Charles Murray), the lesson was learned. No one discusses it anymore.