addressing a few things: i understand a lot of you may not like content creators being used in this or agree with things they've said (based on what i've been made aware) - but to be honest most of jorobes content is only now saved on these old videos, especially the clips i required. But some clips have been cut out using youtube editor due to a few things i was told and did not support, so major apologies. i usually would directly source my clips but thankfully other creators have archieved it. - in further note this is exactly what jorobe wants, to cause discourse and debate away from him. He has deleted content to make it difficult to speak about him, which leads to this. It sucks. also a few people seem to be a bit confused to what i mean by his content being bad because "technically he wasn't wrong" - I agree, i’m not denying he wasnt wrong in certain tiktoks. But it's the bare minimum, no? Why are we so keen to reward content creators and put them on moral pedestals because they say the most obvious things.. and in this case not even abide by those things? He never added anything of value to the conversation and ran from speaking about real difficult things when he could have. I think his content was truly bad, and using serious issues for his own benefit to take advantage of people.
We really need to stop hyping people up for saying what should be considered the norm. i really just went “uhh duh?” when I saw a lot of his tiktoks. It just shows how much society has failed us (especially victims of SA) and how low our standards are because support is so rare.
And the church he works for is completely denying to even know him. He still works there. It got to the point where the church made it harder for outsiders to contact them for a while. I don’t know if they’re still refusing to talk to others even now. But it’s clear the church doesn’t care because they haven’t fired him and allow him to still work with children within his exact demographic to prey on (that being middle schoolers and high schoolers).
@Lana del Rey needs to release her unreleased songs well yes, obviously not. But mocking his looks is fine if his personality and behaviour is uglier than his face.
I am honestly so proud that the younger generations are becoming so emotionally aware and intelligent. Hearing a 16 year old referring to him trauma dumping and knowing what abusive behaviour looks like is incredible to see. It took me, and so many other, YEARS to be able to identify this sort of thing. Gen Z are ridiculed so much but so many of them are revolutionary and that scares other generations.
I'm grateful to see how evolved Gen Z is. Gen Z shouldn't even be ridiculed. (The way millennials didn't need to be ridiculed). The older generations get so jealous at seeing the younger generation be young. It's sad.
Aww, thank you! I'm a teenager, and this warmed my heart. Really, thank you. And as someone who is black, short, chubby, and a woman, I've been ridiculed more times than I could count. Including because of my age. I've also had adults tell me I'm not worth talking to because I'm a teenager, so, this is refreshing to see. Many adults have told me these things as well: "I should be out partying or drinking." However, all I wanna do is stay inside, practice my writing and homework, and work towards getting into a good college. I'm not even interested in drinking, let alone partying. Not to be a "pick me" girl, it's just genuinely not my cup of tea. I've been told "you're just a teenager who thinks she knows everything in the universe," despite how I've never said anything of the sort. I *don't* know everything in the universe, and I'm well aware that the older I get, the more I'll learn about the world. There's many other things that adults have told me, but I won't get too deep into it. Moral of the story, I love seeing comments like yours. Thank you so much, you're one of the rare (from my experience) people who don't automatically hate a teenager just because of their age and the stereotypes on us.
Exactly! They probably thought he was just being funny/edgy (since they're literally kids) and probably didn't think any of it at that time-- and I bet he absolutely KNEW that. Woudn't doubt if he tried to use his platform/content to his advantage too. Hope he rots.
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The worst part is lots of young people including me were saying they would “trust him with their drink at a party” and now look what happened he’s started grooming minors :(
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@@BooksandBuns pretty sure that AxxL guy isnt a bot, ive seen his channel and, as weird as it is, it seems like it is a real person commenting on youtube. strange guy tho, would not recommend
To back up the argument against "they were okay with it at the time": I was groomed by a family friend when I was 14. I'm 33 now, and only just realized what he was doing and gave him the predator label. He was good to me. He saved my life. But he was and still is a predator. Processing the reality of being groomed is often not something that happens in the middle of it or even directly after. That's one of the things that makes it so insidious.
Sadly many people think being unaware and not caring are the same thing :/ There was still harm done, people just don't know why some things are happening (like not being able to maintain healthy relationships, having problems with figuring out what they are comfortable with when it comes to physical contact, forcing themselves to things they don't want because they think it's normal) even if they never put two and two together why it's happening it's not an real "being OK"
@@mellojello1248 no problem. I know how hard different traumas are to articulate, so if I can lend my gift of gab to the thing and help somebody else have the words to explain it, I'm happy to.
It’s so terrifying that someone who built a platform on the basis of creating a voice for people who have sadly faced the huge issue that is sexual assault then used that platform to hide his friends sexual assault and facilitate his own grooming. This is why it’s so hard for victims of these things to open up and trust people. This is why these people need a platform to have their voices heard
I immediately sus men that say protect women and stuff without being prompted. I’ve known multiple men that go so haaaaard to protect women, end R culture, and a,k sorts of good points publicly, private, they’ve assaulted multiple women I know. One even is a content creator and owns a brand in my country, he has models and everything, like about 4 years ago? He did something to a woman I knew and slapped her across the face when she told him to stop. Like, PUH-LEEEEEEZ
@Agatha Anabell ...I think the Russian bot is malfunctioning. Then again, I've had an actual conversation with someone who appeared at first to be a bot doing random advertising BS before, so maybe you're an actual person. If so...maybe don't comment random crap in response to comments you can't read, because this was hilariously tasteless and tone-deaf to post on a comment like this.
@@LangkeeLongkee its so fucking sad that theres so little men who actually care about our rights and dont just speak out to cover up thier disgusting behaviour. Like my faith in humanity is nonexistent at this point
@@bigoldtree583 mhm. And then they walk around like "not all men" but half the men who say that either actually ARE those men or their friends are and they know it.
the saddest thing is we trusted him in our community, and we thought he could be someone who would understand what we go thru as young people. he took that trust and used it to manipulate lots of young men. it’s disgusting.
The best thing you could do with this is take it as a lesson to be wary of adults who specifically market their content towards teenagers/children. Plenty of adults are genuinely there for yall, but you have to be cautious because too many are out to get you guys. Educate yourself on grooming tactics, and ALWAYS follow your gut instinct. If something seems suspect, bring it up to a trusted adult (parent, teacher, etc) if you have one.
I hate when people say "texts aren't even traumatising" or "texts don't mean anything" I was groomed when I was 14, the guy was 28 at the time and I only realised he had actually groomed me a few weeks back when I saw the guy's Facebook with the same profile picture he had back then (I'm 19 now) I immediately froze up, my hands started shaking and I had a small panic attack. Everything he made me do, everything he texted me, I had suppressed it all, I forgot until I saw that exact profile picture that made me relive everything he did to me. Texts can be just as bad.
@Clorox Bleach You’re probably not aware that 14 year olds aren’t exactly always the smartest or even the most self-aware. Plus, “everything he made me do, everything he texted me,” sounds a lot more than some “dirty pics,” does it not? *And* he was a *28* *year* *old* *man* *talking* *to* *a* *fourteen* *year* *old,* you twit. They also said she had a small panic attack because of the realization, and you found that to be “overdramatic” regardless of who they are as a person and what they’ve been through? Interesting.
I'm sorry you went through that. That is bs and shouldn't have happened. He was 28 and needed some hobbies besides talking to kids who barley just started puberty
Texts can definitely be traumatising and I in no way want to minimize your experiences but as a survivor of SA I'd say it's still not the same thing. Nothing people have said to me or made me do online will ever be as painful as someone forcing themselves upon me physically.
i’ve been waiting for this. i cant believe i used to look up to him, it’s just so wrong. he gave me weird vibes at first but then i gave him the benefit of the doubt, i’m just dissapointed tbh, not surprised
@@acegraham7255 sadly true. Same as how while women all over are finding trackers on their cars [known way for traffickers to find and abduct next victims] can't do anything cause it not illegal unless you know an have proof they have intent to cause you harm
So we actually went to the same college, and he had a reputation for being creepy/weird. At the time anonymous confession pages were popular, as was Yik Yak, and he posted about himself on those A LOT. He also was known to hang out on campus and with current students well after graduating which was also strange.
This was the hardest disguise yet.. donated to his twitch.. attended his TikTok live streams and was this close to getting his merch.. the world we live in.
Literally same, I enjoyed his videos back when I used tiktok. His videos kinda helped me deal with religious trauma I developed as a result of living in an extremely religious village as a gay person. I feel so guilty about liking his videos now I know about these events, especially as an ass***t survivor. Ugh I hate people!
Actually so proud of these young people for recognising his actions are not ok, including their friends telling them their concerns. It shouldn't be their job to do this but it is so good to see.
Especially when the young men come out because the social stigma is so bad against male victims and they get blamed for their assaults just like victims of other genders It’s very brave for them to come out
Well actually it takes us just as long to learn these things, but the internet has exposed us at a much younger age. Most kids and teenagers now have matured so fast because technology removed the rose tinted glasses all young people wear. It’s honestly very sad. I’m fifteen and I wish i’d gotten to live my life longer without knowing what I do.
As a 25 year old, the only time I ever interact with teens is when I sometimes train someone new at work. It’s always weird and I feel so old and mildly uncomfortable having to be with them for 8 hours. This guy is so sick and I hope he gets in trouble for what he’s done to these kids.
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As a minor the first time i saw him I thought he was cool for addressing things people have done. Then I got more into his content and I started to feel weird about the way he spoke and acted. He always put me off for whatever reason and now i know why, he was triggering my trauma. GLAD to know I've got spidey senses with men like this
I feel ya. I've never heard of this guy and 10 seconds into iNabber showing a clip of him, I just _assumed_ he was a predator and was disppointed to discover I was correct.
How did you think this guy was cool? Did you not look at his face? Did you not grow up with dragonball z, green day, evanescence or any other form of aesthetics whatsoever? Did you grow up as a Mormon where you thought this absolute soy-incarnate was some kind of rockstar bad boy? Jesus, kids are dumb, yet we let them dictate who gets famous and now we have to put up with the Paul brother's and the Demilio sisters.
I mean even a broken clock can be right once a day. If she spends all her time screaming how we should hate or refuse to listen to literally anyone else, she'll nail a right opinion once in a while. Like throwing darts at random names taped on the wall.
if, as a 20-something year-old, you're having to ask people if they're 18 yet, whilst trying to book overnight stays with them... you're in very shady territory...
as someone who was taken advantage of at 18 by someone much older, i really appreciate you saying that it’s still not okay despite the fact that the boys were of ‘legal’ age. just because someone is ‘legal’ doesn’t automatically mean that it’s ‘okay’.
The youngest age of "consent" in the world is 9. So it's definitely absurd to think a law makes something right. Turning 18 also does not make you become mature and prepared for anything you weren't at 17.
@@LunarEleven the age of consent isn’t even the same throughout the US either so it really is ridiculous. you’re definitely not anymore mature than u were at 17. nicely said !
Cassandra Suzanne also another defense a lot of people use is that the age of consent in Japan is 12 but it isn’t tho that’s just how old children have to be to fuck other children not adults
As awful as it is it's a good lesson for young/overly trusting people. People aren't who they are at surface level. It's one thing to like someone's content but to idealize then without knowing their true self is dangerous.
"I understand that most people are fairly problematic." Great line. Because they are. I can say I used to be a closed minded idiot who said things I am absolutely mortified by now. If it weren't for people being honest with me I never would have decided "maybe I'm not as educated as I think i am". I would still be the same person I was, thinking I was so wise and witty. I was an idiot, and I can't thank those who educated me enough. If it weren't for them I would never have grown, learned, and strived as much as I have. You cannot change until you truly look at yourself and eventually realize why you are the way you are and what made you that way, and then actively choose to correct it, AND keep educating yourself.
This one hurts me a lot. It’s hard for me personally to trust men as they’ve done lots of fucked up things to me, but his channel made me feel really safe. Knowing this now it makes me feel so icky and disturbed. I will no longer be allowing myself to get attached to random people on the internet.
Another point against the "It's legal they're 18" argument around the tiktok at the beginning of the allegations section, they weren't 18 YET. He said as much. Even if the guy was angling to get together at the just-legal mark, he's still propositioning a minor. Legal or illegal, that's predatory and fucked up, pardon my french.
Plus alot of 18 year olds are still in high school, I myself am 18, I do not have an adult mind, I do not act like an adult... I have not Finnished developing
I always say, eighTEEN. TEEN. Teenager. That's not an adult lmao. The age of consent in my country is 16, but I don't think it's morally okay for say a 40 year old to be with a 16 year old. 18 or 19 is no different. When I was 18 I was still a kid. The law means nothing.
100% agree. And the thing is too this man is 28. I’m 25 and won’t even look at someone under the age of 21 because that’s a whole hell of a lot of developmental difference even just in 4 years LET ALONE a whole ass decade. Just because someone is “legal” doesn’t make it not wildly inappropriate and disgusting.
A few days ago I finally unsubscribed, she was literally my favorite for a longtime till everything came out and I just didn't want to unsubscribe till she released a vid about everything, but that's probably never happening.
Don’t feel bad, I’m 30 and don’t have a mortgage or kids either. :( I think it’s harder for our generation to be able to purchase our own homes, and will just continue to get more difficult for each following generation.
@@bigwendigo2253 your not wrong, I'm 19 but even with a full time well paying job I can hardly afford to rent a house, apartment etc. At this point especially in my area you have to live with someone else. (in my area rent on a 1 bed 1 bath could be 900-1400 and a 2bed will be 1000-1700 a month)
@@bigwendigo2253 yeah exactly I'm 29 and own my apartment because I got lucky but no babies of any kind yet. My childhood cats died a few years ago, I was very attached to them and I'm not ready to love other cats yet lol.
I've been groomed by a man since I was 11, I lived out a better life through roleplaying and used porn to cope with emotions and disorders I couldn't understand yet. He was my "bestfriend" for about 3-4 years, and the whole time was incredibly sexual with his topics and roleplays. I've been victim blamed and had the courage to finally block him, hearing these kind of actions discussed helps me unwrap my trauma even if for a few minutes.
It always seems to be those who work the closest to children that are the predators. It’s extremely scary that someone like him had such a large platform on an app that many children use.
I feel like this is obvious but obviously not everyone who works with children are predatory, the majority aren't. However, people who are attracted to children might be more likely to want to work with them. In addition, according to some studies, most child sexual abusers arent actually "true" p/dophiles (only 20-30% would be comsodered a p/dophile according to one I read a while back), rather they are opportunistic or crave power (because, of course, ab/sing a child immediately makes you a gigachad with all the power /s.) so being in a position of power over a child might prompt people with a particular brand of patheticness to enact ab/se upon the kids under their care. So essentially, it's less the people who are working with children are more likely to be predators, but when the wrong people slip through the cracks it means that they have more access to more children and opportunities to abuse, which is why it seems more common in those areas of work. Unfortunately, p/dophiles and ab/sers are everywhere, but those who work in childcare are most dangerous. It's disgusting.
@@CosmicEngimas ofc he's a youth pastor... Its often those who make artificial "safe space" people crrave for and then they get them into their net. Fuckers
As a sexual assault survivor myself I never liked the guy, it always felt like he was using other people's trauma to benefit himself. Maybe that wasn't what it was and my trauma has admittedly made me skeptical however my gut has generally not steered me wrong in a long time.
His "punching" video is the only thing i saw and it was enough for me to know. Granted I obviously wouldnt have predicted this much, but he's clearly the kindve guy who feels entitled to for girls/guys to wanna f*ck him just because he's "not like other guys" I wanna believe its because people are younger so they dont have this knowledge, but this tactic was even used when i was in highschool by people and it never worked for them. So i just have no concept of how the average person wouldve possibly fallen for this. Not that im saying its their fault, clearly something in society changed in the past 15 years, but its just so alien to me it blows my mind. ...OH GOD AM I GETTING OLD?!
@@Brucifer2 It’s just different people have different takes on things and maybe in your highschool everyone was very well aware of these things, but a lot of ppl these days are very sensitive, naive and a little clueless so they get misled easily.
As a survivor of SA, thinking that you're invincible and having an inflated ego will be your biggest downfall. And you know what else? Making bs excuses just adds more fuel to the fire.
Saw this coming from a mile away lol. Someone who acts like this and tries their hardest to prove how politically correct and accepting they are usually end up being degenerates. This dude is the embodiment of saying "I'm a very nice person, you can ask anyone if you want".
Gross. Reminds me of the "nice" guy I met freshman year of college who told me about his friend's SA the first time we talked in person. He went on this long rant about how horrible some men are but how happy he was that his friend trusted him enough to confide in him. I thought it was weird, but I'd never really had someone express interest in me and he was saying the right things, so I let myself believe that meant he was a good guy who would never do such a thing himself. I trusted him. But I was wrong. I steer clear of people that talk like this now; they're either overcompensating because they know what they've done/do is wrong, or they're getting some sick thrill from talking about it.
100% agree. My best male friend was JUST like this. He had tampons in his car for his female friends, he listened to me break down over my own sexual assaults, and he would always bring up how my other male friends were ‘predatory’ or ‘creepy’ - it’s like it was always on his mind. He started bringing up my sexual assaults when I wasn’t even thinking about it just to ‘make sure I was okay’ or to ask some questions that weren’t really relevant; it’s like he was obsessed with talking about it. Down the road he wound up confessing to raping multiple women multiple times. I verbally shoved a foot up his ass before telling him to get absolutely fucked, but damn was I heartbroken and confused. Those red flags will always stick with me; hyper-vigilance is a HUGE red flag. Stay safe everyone.
While not predatory in nature, I had a neighbour down the hall who was often ranting about all the crack addicts in our area. He really seemed to hate them. His gf and I were both floored when it came out that he himself had a crack addiction. The gf was hit particularly hard with that revelation, like "How could I be with him for a few years and have no idea?" It seems there's a lot of people who talk like they hate a certain thing, but they themselves secretly are into that thing.
@@gypsywoman9140 its called projection. Like someone always suspicious their partner is cheating. Being controlling and checking up on them, always asking questions. A lot of the time they are projecting because they are the ones cheating.
@@bonnie4031 I wouldn’t say hyper vigilance in itself is a red flag because it’s also often related to certain nerodiverncey I’m autistic and have ADHD so I’m hyper vigilant myself but being extremely focused on SA is a red flag and only being hyper vigilant to that is a red flag
i’m so glad that the victims have such amazing friends that told them what was going on and that it wasn’t okay. many venerable people would have ignored them and met up with him and that would have been horrific
Videos like this make me think of a friend I met in college. As an extremely naive, vulnerable 18 year-old, one of my peers in the Computer Science department (a space that already exerted a power dynamic over me, being one of 3 women who were majoring at the time) was 42, looking to get a degree after he came home from the military. Someone who - while I never believe he could have, for the sake of this discussion let's be pragmatic here - had every opportunity to take advantage of me, and instead went out of his way to protect me. I wasn't prepared for college at all, and honestly cannot believe I navigated my time on-campus without facing more trauma than I did (I was still hurt by people there, but the incidents were few and far between). I'll never forget having a convo with him and my family, because even though I was a legal adult, he still felt it a moral imperative that my folks know who I'm interacting with, especially considering members of my friend group were TAs or mentors for my chosen field. We're still close friends now, even as I had to go on medical leave from my degree and don't know if/when I'll return. Age gaps can be bridged in friendships under the right circumstances, and I wish that for my fellow abuse survivors, all of our experiences could have been with a person like that (not to put this guy on a pedestal for morality some would argue is pretty basic; I'm moreso thankful that in addition to that, he went on to be the kind of ally and advocate jorobe pretended to be). I can't stand it whenever these people act like their behavior was a "mistake" or like they slipped up, as if they're trying to say there was no way they could avoid the terrible things they did. Just be fucking honest and admit your moral compass is too weak.
Wait this guys 27?! I thought he was 40. I’ve never heard of him before until this video but can’t believe this man’s younger than me, he’s aged like milk
@@miramuchachito296 I also think it’s partially the way he dresses that ages him so much. Like, he deadass has the fashion sense of a 40-50 year old dad.
I’m friends with people a few years younger than me but as I am 19 even I didn’t want to be friends with people younger than me by a significant amount. A 13 year old wanted to be my friend and I didn’t want to hurt their feelings but I still drew a line and told them I wasn’t comfortable being their friend. It really isn’t hard to not be friends with minors with a major age gap.
I think the age limit for friendship for me (19) is 17 years old. The age limit for dating is late 18. It's super important to behave responsibly and encourage age appropriate relationships
I’m 18 and I have a 2-something year old friend (he’s also my cousin) I sometimes hang out with. Genuine platonic relationships with an age difference can be supercool to have, but it’s weird and predatory when it’s not
This is just so disturbing... Like, I'm on discord servers where there are younger teens on there. And when I interact with those kids I make the effort to take less of a "friend" role and try to act like the adult in the situation that I am and make sure no lines get crossed because that is my responsibility as the older person in the situation. It's not that hard of a concept to grasp I don't understand why so many influencers behave like this!
Right? My bf and I were playing a game, and vibed well with a random person online. Got into a call on Discord, found out the person was a minor, and we made it very clear immediately that while we're ok playing and being in a call with them, we needed to establish firm boundaries between us and her, and that we could be "friendly" but not "close friends". The moment we heard her age, my bf literally went "mm, no, this feels wrong, this needs to be addressed _now"_
I’m a minor and anytime I see a discord user is 18+ years old, I don’t talk to them at all unless I have friends also interacting with us, I don’t even accept their friend request. It’s nice to see that some older people have those thoughts as well.
@@whymustyoubetraymeso2768 that is very smart of you. Sadly, not many adults are like this commenter and myself. I was groomed by so many people when I was a minor, and I’m autistic, so I never ever grasped it. Looking back, everything makes me so sick and I cannot understand how an adult would even want to be close friends with a child.
That's exactly how I handle this. The only kids I interact with online on a regular basis are kids I'm related to and the kids of my friends. I'm a grown ass woman, what am I going to have in common with children I don't know? Probably just the game we're playing, so that's what we'll talk about.
@@platinum_noelle listen, when i was younger if someone in a call just started talking about boundaries right off the bat at best id think theyre kinda creepy and at worst id have blocked someone. its a good rule but id keep it unspoken until it really comes up
As a 26 almost 27 year old adult the thought of being friends with a teenager weirds me the fuck out. My youngest friend is 21… people are disgusting 🤢
I mean I’m 17 and have a friend that’s 38. It’s very much a mother daughter like relationship. She’s always there for me when I need her. I also have a friend that’s 26 and although I haven’t talked to him much lately I know he would be there if I needed him. Not every friendship with big age gaps is a case of grooming (although I don’t deny that many likely are). I think friendships with such big age gaps can be fine it’s all about the intentions behind it or rather the lack there of.
Most definitely. I’m only 23 and I have a few 16-17 year old “friends”. And I wouldn’t really call them friends. I coached varsity 8th grade basketball for a couple years so I know some younger guys and we play basketball, talk basketball and maybe light social talk about how they’re doing in school. What is really wrong w people. I couldn’t imagine
Dunno. Me personally, I used to work at a teenage hangout place when I was 19 and befriended a few 13 year olds who were into the same games I was into. We're all still friends 8 years later. It's a little strange, but you find friends in the weirdest of places.
I’m almost 16 and I have a few friends who r 18-19 cuz i knew them in high school I also have friends that r in their 20s but they’re my cousins and I’m close with them
this is really sad. a year ago, he was my favorite cc because of how much of an ally he was. goes to show how you should never trust anything at first glance online.
about the part on age difference, i'm 19 and i have 27 to 35yo friends IRL at my university, just saying, it's a thing, and it's not creepy, this age difference doesn't automatically make relations toxic, it's not that simple (I'm not defending jorobe, I'm just saying that in general)
As a 26yo, I could never be friends with a teenager because we're just... lightyears apart in terms of emotional development. And these creeps know that, too.
Ngl, when I was 17, I was kicked out of my family home and was pretty distraught about that. I joined a gc on an app that I liked called "emotional support" and got talking to the other person in the group. I unloaded a lot because I was in a really bad place, then I asked how old the other person was, thinking they were in their 30s or 40s because of their good spelling and grammar and lack of Internet talk. The person then told me they were 13 and I instantly left. The rules in the gc said 16+ but I was talking to a kid. My heart dropped. I alerted the mods, showed them a screen shot and told them I had left the gc. The mod then gave me a helpline to call and some young persons homelessness charities to contact and wished me well. I think that my example is a good way to deal with a situation like this if anyone else finds themselves in a situation similar, or at least I hope it is. I was an overly emotional kid at the time but I'm 19 and doing a lot better now.
I’m not really sure how these two situations are even comparable. I don’t get it, were you scared because you were spilling your guts out to a 13 year old and didn’t know? You didn’t do anything even remotely wrong it sounds like… this dude was trying to get kids liquored up and into airBnBs and hot tubs after gaining their total trust and sympathy (crying to one member of the group chat that the rest of the group doesn’t like him, isolating that one member, etc) I am glad you’re doing better. I’m sorry your parents kicked you out. Parents should never do that to their child.
It happens, but at least you knew better than to go any further than you did after knowing that fact. (Context: I was an 11 year old that several 20 + year olds tried to groom back in the day. Most way after they knew my age. At least you stopped.)
While you can have friendships with big age gaps there's usually some common interest or hobby. I've got D&D friends that are half my age but we can talk about elves, dwarves and wizards without it being creepy. I find it weird when there's a massive age gap between people who are just friends who talk about their day to day life. What could your day to day life have in common with someone in a completely different phase of their life?
I have friends at school who are in their 30’s, i’m 19 and in beauty school. We all talk and do things friends would do in school, but we don’t hang out unless it’s ALL of us for like a school event. We’re chill without being creepy
This exactly; I've played DND with teenagers as an adult, and it was perfectly fine in that context, but otherwise? No. Heck, I look at anyone under 20 (I'm 22) as a child. Otherwise I don't have anything to do with teenagers, apart from my younger sister and her friends. I have a friend in his 30s I met at uni, we share common interests and whatnot and we have an excellent and genuine friendship. However, we also established that friendship in person, and built up to talking about deeper and more personal things. Obviously this is a specific case, but again, met him through a specific environment (uni). Tldr; age gap friendships are fine if U share hobbies and ARE NOT CREEPY AND RECOGNISE THE FACT YOU ARE VASTLY DIFFERENT AGES.
Yes that’s true. You can have a large gap between the oldest and the youngest person in that kind of group, but then you’ll also have people inbetween those ages. The oldest and the youngest member don’t go off by themselves to do stuff as a rule. Aslo we treat someone young age apropriately. Like not buying them alcohol, or hittingon them. They rather become more likt the kid sibling of the group if the others are older. In such groups we have had we have all been protective of our youngest member. Seriously if you mess with them we will go after you, kind of thing.
Right, when I have older friends in high school or younger friends in community online it's because we have a common interest, sure some of those friendships become more meaningful and close but there's always clear boundaries and respectful rules
I mean, it can be possible in the right circumstance (maybe there's an older coworker you vent to for instance), but it isn't common and usually isn't as involved and outgoing as with their peers.
As a survivor, I really felt like he was a safe person to trust and follow. It’s so disgusting and disappointing to see this all come out. I hope his victims are okay
this is so scary. im fifteen and i followed this person because i admired what i thought was him speaking out against assualters. if this would have been me in any situation i would have so easily fallen for it. that terrifies me. my heart goes out to all the victims and i hope that you're all doing okay. i never realized how much of a monster this person was. i'm so sorry.
He had the audacity to tell other people to “do better” when he does this behind everyone’s back…. We all trusted him and looked up to him and he turns out to be a groomer…
i used to have a fan page of him (yea i’m embarrassed of it too) with thousand of followers. he followed me and a bunch of other fanpages and used to talk to us privately and in groupchats. looking back now it makes me so uncomfortable knowing there was people as young as 10 running these pages
I feel so disgusted that I followed this man. I didn't know about this after losing interest in the platform a while ago, but 2-faced men like this terrify me the most out of anyone. Eerily similar to my own grooming and assault experiences. Thank you for getting this out into the open air. He deserves every fall.
As a minor I honestly looked up to him and he gave me faith that the younger generations would be educated on these things through tiktok. But now I completely see him differently and honestly am disgusted by him
What bothers me the most is that he was so trusted by everyone. He had a big platform consisting of over 4.5 million followers who I assume were mostly impressionable young adults and teenagers, and used that trust to manipulate young people when he claimed to call out people doing the exact same thing. He's truly a disgusting human being and even if he's off tik tok he's still allowed to interact with the public and hasn't gotten any repercussions for any of this
It also doesn't matter if he was 24 either. Inviting someone to an Airbnb and tricking them into sleeping in a one bedroom with you is not ok especially when they make it clear they aren't comfy. Plus separating someone from their friends
Seeing a ring on his fourth finger on the left hand makes me wonder if he was married... Does that mean, he’s a predator (allegedly) AND a cheater? That’s twice as messed up.
Watching this as a 34 year old woman, I'm now realizing how fucked up it was that most of the men I hooked up with when I was 16 and 17 were usually at least ten years older than me. That's so fucked up it's insane.
This hits so close to home, meeting someone you look up to and then taking advantage of that and of you. And the scary part isn't even that happening at the time, it's realizing it later when you've matured and learnt. I hope everyone understands how overwhelming it is to realize you've been groomed, how dumb and used you feel. I hope all these teens he groomed can move on soon, they deserve the world and more, they all seem so lovely.
I haven’t even heard of this guy, but thank you for keeping us informed!! Can’t stress how much I look forward to seeing your videos! Would love if you had merch we could buy. Also I hope you’re mental health isn’t suffering working so hard to bring us daily content, really appreciate everything you do!!😊😊
I feel like at least 90% or more of us remember times growing up where someone did/said something that we thought was fine at the time, but now looking back you realize how terrifyingly creepy it actually was.. like imagine it being an ongoing thing with someone you trust... I can't imagine how anyone could blame these CHILDREN for this.
On discord a kid kept talking to me, I was polite but he decided to get chummy. I had to tell him that we couldn't be friends as it's just.... yknow, weird. When he asked he was 11 and I was 25. I was not comfortable and had to discuss age gaps on the Internet. Kids do not understand, I was groomed as a kid and was completely unaware.
Also, kids are in the awkward, horrible phase between childhood and adulthood. All the confusion and messiness can lead to low self esteem, feelings of isolation, etc -- and if an adult shows a little interest, it's flattering. Kinda like, 'look, someone with a car and a house and a job thinks I'm important and interesting.'
When I was younger I was groomed by my math tutor. For 7 years I saw him. From 3rd grade till high school. He slowly escalated things and I kept telling myself if it crossed this line I’d say something. Every time it went further and further. Anyways I ended up telling my therapist who told my mom for me. I’m 18 now and the damage he did is still there. I still struggle with what he did. They leave lasting damage with what they do. I feel for anyone who was hurt by these selfish monsters.
used to think this lad made some good points. although his argumentative way of talking in his videos was rather annoying, he made so many tiktoks on certain things that matched so many people’s views on important topics.. but to find out that his actions went against all things he advocated for in his videos, talking about the importance of consent in particular. it is so frustrating. the hypocrisy is astounding
my idea. some of his takes were genuinely good (keyword some) but then he'd go through this pasaionate ranting that seems almost forceful. its hard to listen to since it kind of looks like an abuser trying to convince you of something.
@@nothx2845 i completely agree with you there. i tried to look past it, as i understand that some people can come across as rather forceful when speaking about something passionately. however i realise now that he was never passionate with what he was talking about, he just wanted everyone to like him so he could get views, possibly to also cover up these allegations
Somehow, I forgot that the entire title of a RU-vid video gets cut off in the notifications if it's too long and got extremely confused when I saw a notification that read "Jorobe: How TikToks WORST Predator Got Away With EVE". I'll clear the air now, I haven't been kidnapped. Probably.
i'm in my late 20's and the only kinda relationship i could see having with teenager, that is not a familial one, is a mentor/older sibling type of one. i can't even imagine being friends with a teenager because of the huge difference in priorities, maturity, goals, and like where are in life. like being friends with someone in their early 20's while i'm in my late 20's makes sense to me even if there is still a difference in goals, priorities, maturity, etc. because it is not so big that you can't be friends, but like a teenager that just couldn't work so for someone in their late 20's to pursue teenagers for a non-platonic intimate relationship is repulsive because it clearly about that person wanting to be a position of power and to abuse that unbalanced power dynamic.
And it's not that I don't think teenagers aren't capable of being mature intelligent people like I've been at guest for meals at people who have teens and had really interesting conversations with them. It is just that when you take it beyond that I can't see how it work as friendship that is any way remotely healthy or balanced. Like teenagers who are friends with others teens where there is an age gape makes sense for example: when I was a freshman in high school I had a friend who was a senior. And once they graduated we didn't really keep up because I was dealing with high school and teenage related stuff and they were dealing with college stuff and entering the work force and like how to be adult and all the things that come with entering your 20's once you looking at someone who is their 20's and older I just can't see any justification for any sort of relationship with teenager platonic or otherwise (obviously exceptions like if its a family member or it is like a mentoring thing or older sibling type deal or like you've know since they were little kid or something like that, but hopefully you get my point)
Seriously. Im in my early twenties and I don't have a single friend that is underaged (>18 in my country). I just don't see why. We're at radically different points in our lives, I'd rather hang out with people who share that than people who don't, and I think a lot of teens feel the same way.
@@synonymous_ Exactly. That is why when some youtuber or tik toker who is in their early or late 20's is hanging out with teens and is "friends" with them I'm like wtf. Where teenagers are in life and where someone in their 20's are in theirs are very different and then add in that the brain isn't fully developed until 25 in which specifically a fully developed brain process information in the rational part of the brain while the still developing brain does that in the emotion part. The prefrontal cortex is what helps to reason about long term consequences and think logically that is where the brain is doing its decision making once fully developed. Teens are doing theirs in amygdala so that kind of logical, rational, long term thinking is not really happening because that is not what that part of the brain is for. So kind of inherent power imbalance is so uneven. Plus you are dealing with even more of power imbalance because of the adult who is financially independent vs teen who is not, the major aspect of adult vs minor. Like I zero interest in friendship where the power is so uneven and tipped in my favor, even if they were the same age or older then me. So I really don't buy the whole it is "all innocent" when an adult is "friends" with a minor.
In my early 20s I couldn't comprehend being friends with an 18 year old, bc I know that I have AGED so much in those years and that its inappropriate now.
Wow he’s disgusting and I thought he was 50. Wow…. Dillon is so brave and intelligent. Thank you Dillon for coming out with this horrific experience. I hope he is doing well! Oh man I now see it’s multiple people I’m sending love and light to them all
NO WAY I CANT BELIEVE YOU COVERED THIS BUT IM SO HAPPY BECAUSE YOU EXPLAIN THINGS IN A WAY I CAN UNDERSTAND 😭 i was silently hoping you would talk about him so thank you so much!!!!!!
