Joseph Smith and Masonry | Now You Know 

Well Karman, I don´t know but Kenny just got killed!

Jesus led you here.

zissler or not.

Did the Mormon episode bring you here?

I know right 😂

You got that right Woody. God bless you.

Amen to that. We know who Freemasons really worship, don't we.

The current prophet told members to get the COVID vaccine. That says it all.💔

@@Israel-of-Yah Do you?

@@00Fisher00 Well...we know Who they don't worship. Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Masonry is a masquerade and its easy for those involved to become caught up in doing their "good deeds" here on Earth. *Acts 4:12 NIV Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.*

No, Joseph Smith recognized some truth in certain symbols that Freemasons used and incorporated those along with revelation he received. If you study the details, it boils down to basically that.

God bless!! Repent, for The Kingdom of God is at hand!

You're expecting that Joseph Smith's father blabbed everything to Joseph Smith? You really think he would violate his obligations as a Mason? Hyrum Smith also was a Mason. Some called him a "High Mason" but do you really think he would violate his obligations as Mason? For what purpose? What genuine, primary evidence have you for that? Then again, a lot of what has been claimed about the Masonic connections has been utterly without merit. Frequently, the starting point for the claims and comparisons have been from rituals in which Joseph Smith couldn't have participated, such as from older versions of the Scottish Rite (there also was no Scottish Rite in Illinois until 1846), or from Monitors published in 1860 or later, or from obscure rituals or organizations of which Joseph Smith would not have been aware. Anyone can take snippets of text out of context from various sources, rearrange them, and then claim that they are direct evidence of borrowing. Are there some elements that have a certain amount of correspondence? Yes. But is one just a copy of the other? No. Not at all. An apostate from the Church, Fanny Stenhouse (whose husband also was a Mason at one time), said the following about such claims: "I has always been commonly reported, and to a great extent believed, that the mysteries of the Endowment House were only a sort of imitation--burlesque, it might be--of the Rites of Masonry; but I need hardly say that this statement when examined by the light of facts is altogether ungrounded and absurd...." (Fanny Stenhouse, _"Tell It All": The Story of a Life's Experience in Mormonism_ [Hartford: A. D. Worthington and Co., 1875], 354.)

@@OmegaMan28 No, he did not. We know the exact dates when Joseph Smith was initiated, passed and raised to the Sublime Degree of Master Mason. He never went on to participate in anything else beyond that. Besides, in fact, there was no Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite in Illinois until the year 1846. That was four years too late. The proof texts you have in mind actually have at their root mistranslation and misunderstanding, as well as being taken from their historical and cultural contexts. Several times the Bible says that people saw or will see God (Moses, 70 of the elders of Israel, Isaiah, Stephen, angels of little children, those who are pure in heart, and those who will dwell in the city of New Jerusalem). And that passage in Isaiah that you have in mind comes from a section of Isaiah that has been rewritten so many times by scribes, and interpolated, that many scholars have come to believe it was written by a different author, and that the Book of Isaiah was written by two or more authors! Freemasons didn't establish the "Mormon" religion. It was established by non-Masons before many members of said Church later became Masons. Joseph Smith was the one directly involved in and leading the organization of the Church. That is historical fact.

@@OmegaMan28 Wow, thanks for the laugh. I mean, this HAD to be satire and humor, because nobody with a clue would have said most of that thinking they were being honest.

What evidence do you have to suggest freemasonry is a secret society ?

@Latisha Queen It's odd for you to tell someone you don't know that their father is the devil. I recommend that you not make assumptions about people, especially those who are merely asking questions.

@@00Fisher00 exactly what I’m saying. People are out of their mind

It’s not a secret society, but a society of secrets...

church been always around with secret societies

That's true, essentially everyone gets to heaven regardless.

I just want a hug. ❤️

Simple, isn't it?!

What if you do

nobody said you did

Why do you suggest that?

@@00Fisher00 ask ex masons

@@Dannyboy0202 Like who? People I've spoken to who have been a part of Freemasonry say the opposite about their experiences with it. There are a number of Freemasons here who are sharing their experiences, and none of it has anything to do with worshipping Lucifer.

Albert Pike was also a Freemason, look up Albert Pike the three World wars letter

Ironic, a free Mason as Joseph who tried to find protection from masons, was left alone from the brotherhood in many instances of his life. Read about the beginnings of masonry, the founders had to change their history about how to be more efective in bringing more people into the brotherhood. Read how little Joseph knew about the Mason's deep rituals. By the way, Joseph Smith was a true prophet of GOD. This knowledge is independent from any person in this world, because i have prayed about it, and this knowledge comes from The Holy Spirit.

@@skylerreddy5436 "Read how little Joseph knew about the Mason's deep rituals." Careful on that subject matter. Much of what you've likely heard about that actually originated in hoaxes and people deceiving the public to make a buck.

@@skylerreddy5436 Jesus Christ is our Lord and Freemasonry is Satanism.

So you must be on the floor then right?

Yeah very true most big churches and religions are filled with masonry world wide

Do you love members of the Church of Jesus Christ enough to ask them about their beliefs so that you can really understand? That's what I would recommend, if you truly claim to love others.

Nope. Charles Taze Russell was not a Freemason, much less of the 33°. Neither was Joseph Smith coroneted an IGH. And I would know. If they were, I'd find their names in the lists. And I don't find their names in the lists. That said, Joseph Smith was a Mason. He was raised to the Sublime Degree of Master Mason (that's 3°, not 33°). But that didn't happen until 1842, 12 years after the Church was first organized in 1830. You've got to watch those time lines and historical chronologies. But the early Church had a "hidden wisdom," which they communicated "in a mystery" to "the perfect" (1 Corinthians 2:1-10). This was different from the basic teachings.

@@00Fisher00 Yeah I asked the LDS missionaries if their God was once a man and they lied and said no. I also asked if "as God is man can become" and they denied that too. Yet it's clearly outlined as a teaching in the LDS church website. I told the missionaries this and they admitted I was right and that they had knowingly misinformed me.

@@prayunceasingly2029 What is your purpose? Building faith, or faultfinding? I will inform you that all members of the Church of Jesus Christ and all prophets are imperfect human beings. If you're looking to condemn people for faults, you will always be able to do so, but it's a terribly shortsighted approach and directly opposed to what Christ taught. Missionaries are not required to know everything; what they are to do is preach the basic truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ and testify with the power of the Holy Ghost so that people can know of the truth and pursue greater faith and knowledge for themselves. If you don't want to seek the Holy Ghost, then that's up to you, but I'm sorry you weren't able to appreciate what those representatives of God's Church had for you.

You are saying this in response to freemasonry's universalism?

Felipe Kennedy: To say nothing of those gol'darned gopher holes. Dang varmits takin' up space on the straight n' narrow...

@@zanelegeire8683 what haha

And Mormonism is NOT the narrow path!

@@nancykindt6487, I testify that I have felt the Holy Ghost bear witness that the Book of Mormon is holy scripture and that Joseph Smith is a prophet of God. If someone reads the book and asks God, He'll let them know too.

Thankfully, videos like this one help to dispel the devil's lies.

@@BrandonCole_edohi I don't know if you know this but I think you will find it interesting. There is a church I believe its Italy that has art up on the ceilings and it very much looks like what goes on in the Temple. As you study about Free Masons you find that they were an organization that would do special rituals in Catholic and Christian chapels. As time went on as with all the doctrine of Christ it got corrupted. Also there is history books written by Christians dating around 300 AD and they talk about Temple clothing. You also find that the Masons did design for all the old chapels for the Catholics and Christians. It wasn't till around 1351 when Pope Leo said they were of the devil they become much like they are now. They went into hiding because after that it was off with your head or a burning to the stake. So Masons continued on as a secret organization much like it is today. This is also why when Josephs version of the temple rituals is of God first Joseph revealed the temple endowment before he became a Mason, second the differences are many sure it has similarities to Masonry and you now know why.

@@BOON70 Regarding the ancient sources which you've referenced, correlation does not equate to causation. Stone Mason guilds were contracted to build; it wasn't until gothic architecture started going out-of-style that they became speculative Masons. Joseph did adopt the Masonic teaching model (theatrical presentation, mnemonic devices, illustrative symbols, etc.) and adapt it to teach the Church's already-existing doctrine. However, the subject matter, context, and purposes of the Church's temple endowment ceremony wholly differ from those of the degree ceremonies of Freemasonry.

Great and truthful comment

Well that's cryptic.

I have been a member all of my life (67 years) and I am an inquisitive person from my youth. When I was a teenager I wondered about this very thing. There was a book out called something like, Freemasonry and the LDS Church. It was readily available, and I read it. Obviously it did not shake my faith. I think many people in the church were afraid to explore these things, but the information was available.

Debrah Roundy did you explore gematria? The mathematical code the masons use? Look into it to find out how the false Jews mentioned in revelation operate. Gematria effect news for truth

They are not condemned but this is not God's method but rather that of men. Freemasonry members are Gnostics and worship who they call the creator of the universe and it is not revealed until the 33rd degree that this is Lucifer. Since they are obligated to follow the orders of their worshipful masters, the pyramid structure is headed by Lucifer and so all Freemasons are Luciferians by default. They use human sacrifice to control all of mankind. It originates in the apostate church which is Babylon from the Book of Revelation. They use Freemasonry to control all pulpits that I have witnessed, openly having to display the hidden hand, the single finger in the air, the OK sign or the pyramid when they bring their hands together. Another common symbol is the use of black and white color combinations or orange which stands for 33rd degree. Scripture says that the wink of the eye is used to denote evil. Their signs and symbols are to send messages to one another. It alludes to hidden or secret knowledge which is the basis for Freemasonry. You should also be aware of the Kundalini Spirit which is a the serpent spirit. It is common to use words and spoken messages with hidden meanings shared only with those in the know. They like especially to spell words in reverse. None of this is has anything to do with Christianity. It is Satanic witchcraft trying to plant ideas trying to accomplish mind control with subliminal messages. They control FEMA which is the hidden government. All should repent from this system that forms the beast.

@@notagain1952 LOL do you have any reputable source to back up that claim...

@@notagain1952 something the voices in your head probably didn't tell you is the design of the old Christian chapels with all the symbols were designed by free masons if free masons are of the devil so is Christianity...

Brad Wilcox his grace is sufficient speeches.byu.edu/talks/brad-wilcox/his-grace-is-sufficient/ I love this talk, it helped me to better understand our relationship with Christ. As a member of the church of Jesus Christian of latter day Saints, I agree with you that we can not earn heaven. (As Brad puts it, we are not earning heaven, we are learning heaven). Hope you take the time to read this and let me know what you think! 😀

Praise God!

Legacy, the Bible also tells us that faith without works is dead. We need faith but if we don't do our part then, well, I guess we earn what we get.

Yesssss!Watch For False Prophets

@@icecreamladydriver1606 you show your faith by your works. Works aren't what saves you. It is not a system of good deeds being counted to see if you did enough to save yourself.

It is you who mixed it up liar. Your argument is invalid and you have been deceived by the devil.

Inapplicable to the situation.

You can't just pray for apotheosis either. It takes work and enlightenment, and you can't attain enlightenment within those walls.

Neither is Costco, your local public library, or your local newspaper. Just because Freemasonry isn't biblical does not mean that it's evil or unworthy of participation for faithful, active Christians.

It's simple: education is a good thing, and with modern technology the Church can make information available.

@@00Fisher00 I agree transparency is a good thing!

@@stratocasterbeast I agree. You might be surprised at the effort that people in the Church make to publish information at no cost to anyone outside the organization. The depth and organization of information on ChurchOfJesusChrist.org is impressive.

@@00Fisher00 how about a financial statement showing how the money is spent at the LDS church? Im still looking dor one

They've actually been talking about it since at least the 1930s. One leader of the Church, by the name of Ivins, even published a book on the subject.

Just information.

@@00Fisher00correction: Disinformation*

@funkyfresh There is a big difference between the ritual... and what is taught in the ritual. It was a special name... for you. There are only so many names in the entire world and there has been more people in the world than there are names. So repitition was enevitable anyway. But to let a name that you share with other people in a temple ceremony that happens to you only ONE time in your entrie life bother you to thinking that the name given to you to use is somehow not important because others share that same name. The Lord gave an example of this way of thinking. He called it straining at gnat. The Saints in Brighams day were far different than those of today. As children we would swear to someone that we were telling the truth by saying something like.. Pray to God, hope to die... stick a needle in my eye. That meant that were were really serious about what we were saying. The early saints to show how much they would keep the promises they made to God would speak a specific way that they would die before revealing what they were taught. In my childhood... as a Catholic... all the women wore hats with a mesh that covered their faces. We don't do that anymore. It was something that referenced reverance... and it was an outward sign. There are other ways today that we do different things that accomplish the same things. All these things we did would be considered rituals. And rituals are a way to help teach a concepte by repeating something over and over and over again. Christ never taught anything about the sign of the cross like Catholics do. That is one of their rituals. The endowment itself is very special. Joseph taught it with rituals... and some of the actual rituals have changed... but meanings have remained the same. It is not the words that have been used... but it is the words we now use. How do we show someone that we have an honored contract with them? In ancient times... they would do things like break a stick in two and give on side to each party... that anyone who had the stick the contract was with that person... and not necessarily the one who orginally agreed to the contract. They could break a stone in two... they could agree to a specific hand clasp... they could do whatever means that both sides agreed to... as a sign that they were the now the current owners of one side of the agreement. We learn that there are different non verbals signs that can be given that means something to just the parties of the contract. And yet others could have made the same verbal signs that means something completely different. It is alway between the two parties. And in the Temple... these were the rituals or signs that Joseph Smith used to teach the saints how important it was to remember these things.

@Tslav TV You don't seem to know anything about the Church of Jesus Christ or people's experiences in it. You would do better to seek understanding first.

There is a difference between the endowment and the presentation of the endowment, which you would have learned had you paid attention to the ceremony. The presentation of the endowment can be, and has been altered whenever and however necessary.

Why would you say that?

Except that they were recorded in this way.

Sometimes, yes, he did write his own. He had a hard time doing it, too. That's why he usually used scribes.

@Anthony B Please be specific. What sin do Freemasons commit?

Being a secret society instead of speaking the truths they do.

It is not found anywhere in our doctrinal canon that we will be gods. That stated, the Bible teaches us that we are already like God. We were made in His image (Gen 1:26-27) and, like Him, we know good from evil (Gen 3:22). We desire to be as God would have us be. We do not seek to usurp God as Lucifer sought to do.

Albert Pike, one of the greatest authors of freemasonry wrote: Lucifer, the Light-Bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual or selfish Souls? Doubt it not!iv The devil is the personification of Atheism or Idolatry. For the Initiates, this is not a Person, but a Force, created for good, but which may serve for evil. It is the instrument of Liberty or Free Will. They represent this Force, which presides over the physical generation, under the mythological and horned form of the God Pan; thence came the he-goat of the Sabbat, brother of the Ancient Serpent, and the Light-bearer or Phosphor, of which the poets have made the false Lucifer of the legend.v The true name of Satan, the Kabalists say, is Yahweh (GOD) reversed; for Satan is not a black god, but a negation of God...the Kabala imagined Him to be a "most occult light."vi

You left the Church because Joseph Smith joined the Freemasons? Why? Did you not pray to God to ask him for a witness of the truth of the Book of Mormon and the Church itself? Also, did you not know that many great figures in history, including Founding Fathers of the U.S. including George Washington, were also Freemasons? What exactly is your concern?

I wasted 20 years listening to the churches lies. I am so happy to be free from it.

smokewagon47 I feel more convinced than ever that the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is true Christianity.

I'm the opposite of you. I'm glad I only spent a couple of years as a rainbow girl ... Part of the masons... But I also converted about that time and grow more appreciative of the church still this half a century later. More light and understanding. More peace and joy. More freedom from vices and common pitfalls. Seeing childhood friends and their lives of struggles make me more repentant and grateful. So glad to have genealogy much easier and indexing-away my life! Praying for all to hear and see truth and inspiration from on high...

If you want know more truth about that you must read chapter 5 from quran

@@abdoreal6376 “your truth” my friend. The false prophet Muhammad is a great example of what Jesus warned us about. But once again that is ‘my truth’

@@abdoreal6376 Ya, chapter 5 is a good one!! Especially verse 68 that says "unless you're foundation is based on the bible, uou have nothing to stamd on"

It doesn't appear to have anything to do with either blasphemy or idolatry. I'd encourage you to learn about the Church of Jesus Christ at ComeUntoChrist.org or ChurchOfJesusChrist.org.

YEP

The real second coming of Christ is raising the chrism oil up our spinal chakra centers to awaken to our own Christ / Krishna / Cosmis consciousness. God bless y'all!

"Mormonism" isn't a real thing. The Church of Jesus Christ teaches us very much to have a personal relationship with God. You can learn about the Church at ComeUntoChrist.org.

Why?

Yes. I like Exodus 28 and 29 and Levitucus 8. Wonderful truths that started with Adam and parts can be found in many religions as time goes on. And through revelation, when the time was right, restored fully.

Julie Anderson who was Adams first wife Lilith eve wasn’t his first learn about masonry in lds is a racist religion just like most Christianity that’s why minorities are slaves to capitalism of white supremacy of colonialism right go ask a Native American how he feels about white Jesus he’ll tell you When you die his ancestors are waiting for you guys.

@@alexchavez3244 care to talk your nonsense to an actual mason with knowledge? Doubt it.

@@alexchavez3244 The system is pretty well total communism now. Where's all the capitalism at ?

@@alexchavez3244 A native American ? How about reading the record of an ancient civilisation written and sealed up by an ancient American titled ; The Book of Mormon - Another Testament of Jesus Christ.

Exactly! Not to mention it's a whole other religion. So why allow Mormons to be part of a different religions? Doesn't that go against and violate the commandments of the bible of no false idols or other gods before him?

I have heard others talk about tithing this way before. My thought is this. If it was considered "robbery" in the New Testament (Malachi3:8) to NOT pay your tithing, then one could pay tithing so as to not rob God. Also, one could pay tithing to receive the blessings mentioned in verse 10. Do I pay tithing to enter into the temple? No. I pay tithing to build up the kingdom of God, receive blessings, and to be obedient to God's commandments. On the other subject. God uses simple things to help us follow and return to Him. As an example, in order to live, after being bitten by "fiery serpents", one only had to look at a brass serpent Moses made on a pole to survive the bite. Why? I think it was so the people could show faith in God. Besides, who's to say that Satan did not copy ancient temple rituals and distort them into Masonic rituals. I mean we know that anciently baptisms for the dead where preformed. (1 Corinthians 15:29) And lastly. God does not test worthiness thru memory. You are mistaken in that concept.

@Liisa Glandorf and @lowd ethan, thanks for your comments and for the opportunity to clarify our beliefs and practices. This is an introductory video on the topic of freemasonry; to learn more, see the Church's in-depth essay on the topic here: www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/masonry?lang=eng

Both as a temple-endowed member of the Church and as a Freemason, I wholly disagree with the premise of your comment here. The similarities between the Church's temple endowment ceremony and the degree ceremonies of Freemasonry are both few and superficial. Joseph adopted the Masonic teaching model (theatrical presentation, mnemonic devices, illustrative symbols, etc) and adapted it to teach the Church's already-existing doctrines in its temple endowment ceremony. The subject matter, context, and purposes of the Church's temple endowment ceremony wholly differ from those of the degree ceremonies of Freemasonry. Regarding the Law of Tithing, it is a lesser law which we are currently required to obey; this is because the membership was not found to be ready for the Law of Consecration. I'm sure that there were some who said the same about tithing in Abraham's day and many who said the same about giving up all possessions in Christ's day as what you've said here. However, tithing donations today are used to build and maintain our buildings as well as to keep the Church self-sufficient.

@@lowdethan6709 Freemasonry does not qualify as a religion.

Did you watch the video? No one is suggesting that it's a coincidence.

Lol just like all those other misconceptions, people are drawn in by the lies towards our church.

@@latter-daysaintbatman2679 Your church is made up of nothing but lies.

Well, they aren't exactly the same. In fact, there are signs in the LDS temple ceremony that have no counterpart in Freemasonry. Of course, if a temple patron gave the tokens wrong, the first two would be identical to those in a Lodge. But if given correctly they are not even the same. The other two are not identical or even close to anything in Masonic rituals. Sad thing about the attempts at drawing parallels is that text has to be sifted around and taken drastically out of context to make the parallels look closer. Worse, a good amount of such material is taken out of a book published in 1860, and that is too late to be of use. Even worse, this latter material was part of two Rites to which Joseph Smith never belonged.

@@gavin645 I have found the Church of Jesus Christ to be the greatest source of truth. I suggest going to God in prayer about it.

It's neither Kabbalah nor magic.

Yes

Nope. Freemasonry does not preach the worship of any particular deity because Freemasonry is not a religion.

Brigham was entitled to his opinion; however, this comment was never canonized into the doctrines of the Church. Prophets are not considered omniscient or infallible in the Church and are therefore allowed to have incorrect opinions. Had his comment been canonized, then it would carry the weight of authority in the doctrines of the Church.

Brandon Cole beautifully stated.

@@Alexandriafrancescakiel Thank you. 🙂

I reason masonry refers to building. So, if interpreted as ''celestial building''. That seems ok, even virtuous.

John Harvey to what extent of Christ and the apostles though

Not hardly. Even a casual study will show otherwise; with no more effort than what you used to leave your comment, you could actually learn something about the restored Church of Jesus Christ.

@@00Fisher00 I'm sorry, but, if you read the Bible carefully. The Church that's mentioned in the Bible is referred to "born again believers" known as Christ's bride NOT the Mormon church, nor Catholic, nor Methodist or any other churches. Read the Bible not the BOM or D&C.

Mun Moon 4:07 well either you are lying or the video is...

Mun Moon Why does that need to be discussed? People pay too much attention to Joseph Smith the man instead of his works. The gospel itself is divine, men are mortal. Trying to dissect everything about a mortal man did or didn’t do in his life is temporal. It’s not as important as the divine. Joseph Smith lived so long ago and he was lied about so much. Plus nobody alive today knew him. His own writings are available and there are some of his posterity with journals. But it would be like saying when someone writes a book we should get to know everything about them, their whole life should be on show. That isn’t what’s important. What they wrote in their book is. I hope I’m not coming off as rude. It’s just too easy to get caught up in Joseph Smith himself, which you would never still really know him. Dissect the gospel of Jesus Christ and test it. That’s what important, the divine.

Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints were banned from being Masons under the jurisdiction of the Grand Lodge of Utah for most of the 20th century; Joseph Smith was not cited as the reason for this ban. There was no such ban against members of the Church under any other grand lodge's jurisdiction. The Grand Lodge of Utah saw the error of its ways in the 1980s and therefore lifted the ban.

@@traczebabe what people need to do is test his revelations and his fruits thats how you know hes a false prophet?

Masonry has never banned Mormons nor any monotheistic believers from joining.

Have you received personal revelation from God before? It's pretty convincing.

Hi Zachery, thanks for watching and for your comment. This is an introductory video on the topic; for you or others interested in learning more, see the in-depth topic essay about Masonry on the Church's website below: www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/masonry?lang=eng You can also read a short essay about the history of the temple endowment here: www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/temple-endowment?lang=eng We hope that helps.

Joseph adopted the Masonic teaching model (theatrical presentation, mnemonic devices, illustrative symbols, etc) and adapted it to teach the Church's already-existing doctrines in the temple endowment ceremony. The subject matter, context, and purposes of the Church's temple endowment ceremony wholly differ from those of the degree ceremonies of Masonry. I hope that this resolves your doubts regarding Masonry.

It did answer the question. The real question your asking is whether Joseph Smith was really prophet.

thenowchurch where did you read that?

They are very similar, down to the "Magic underwear" (Holy Garments).

In very general terms only, but Masonic rituals were NOT SHARED outside of Masonic temples. Those rites are entered into with strict promises to not share them to outside groups. In fact, the anti-mason movement was ignited in 1826 when William Morgan, a bricklayer in western New York "disappeared" after he "supposedly had broken his vow of secrecy as a Freemason by preparing a book revealing the organization’s secrets. When no trace of Morgan could be discovered, rumors of his murder at the hands of Masons swept through New York and then into New England and the Mid-Atlantic states."

Given that: - Joseph Smith, Sr, and Hyrum Smith were known to be honest men of integrity - the subject matter, context, and purposes of the Church's temple endowment ceremony wholly differ from those of the degree ceremonies of Freemasonry, the hypothesis that they would have shared the secrets of Freemasonry with Joseph is both unlikely and irrelevant to the topic of the Church's temple endowment ceremony.

go away

If you are in Church, then you sit and listen to the same teachings of Freemasonry, whether you like it or not . Surprise !!!!!

@@maxjohnson2063 Afraid not. Most all of the teachings of the Church already were in place years before Joseph Smith ever was made a Mason at/on Sight. Fact.

I don't believe we need a middleman to have an intimate relstionship with our maker. I also think our "authorities" don't want citizens to know the power we actually posses, like the ability to heal and the God given right to be healthy Men have been lied to for a very ling time by the " elite" bloodlines who have the desire to remain in power- corrupt power!

Joseph Smith was a false prophet, as are all LDS prophets!

Why do you say that Freemasonry is connected to Satanism? What source of information are you relying on?

@@jezbread8111 Why would you say that?

I’m not surprised either, Mormonism is a non biblical cult

@@00Fisher00 In the very hard to find book, "Morals and Dogma of Freemasonry", it states clearly there that to them, lucifer is god almighty. Satan is the god of the lodge. The lower level masonic initiates are not privy to this information, admission, however - only those at the highest levels - typical of such secret societies, including the mormon church.

I hear ya, Masonry and God are in opposition to One Another!!!! May We Come Out Of Her My People, Lest You Partake In Her Sins.......!

I did from I was 16 it's a huge pity our mother got us baptized there in our Innocence I beg the eternal father of life and light to forgive me and my brothers and parents for this act amen

Why would you want to leave the Church of Jesus Christ?

King Solomon disobeyed the most high. He was deceived by Satan because his fleshy desires were too strong

@Kevon John Nope. We Freemasons are "speculative"...in that, we do not actually get involved in building anything physical. It's doubtless that we were even formed in those days. It is more likely that we emerged from the stonemasons guilds of the middle ages.

A good point to bring up. Not to mention that there is some confusion on whether or not Freemasonry is a religion in the first place.

I feel like I responded to a similar comment from you on a different video. If you turned away from the Church God gave you, that's your choice. No one claims that Joseph Smith was perfect, but the wise also don't believe the slander about him and don't accept faulty conclusions about him. It's entirely possible to seek truth faithfully, and when we do, God gives us knowledge. In this case, it means making sense out of things in Joseph Smith's history that didn't make sense to us at first. I am grateful for the Church of Jesus Christ and for my part, I'm content to patiently wait for answers as I seek more knowledge and wisdom. God has proven time and again that He will give those answers.

I have met people with similar concerns. What IS the gospel I ask? We believe the gospel to be 1. Faith in the Lord, Jesus Christ 2. Repentance 3. Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins 4. Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost and 5. Endure to the end (that is to say keep having faith in Christ and keep the commandments to the end of your life. Repentance is not a one-time thing). Does this sound any different from the teachings of Christ? No. It is the same. Both Bible and Book of Mormon teach of these things. I testify that the Book of Mormon and Bible are true.

Thanks for sharing, @Vortex9. Keep it up! For those interested in learning more, visit comeuntochrist.org.

Not at all. Re-watch the video.

Nobody follows the 10 commandments. It's impossible. It's a test for us to reflect and know that we are sinners. So we continue to praise Jesus. It's a measuring stick. Nobody is without sin. And no one follows the 10 commandments to the letter. None

@@braider5204 We are commanded to be perfect. It's a commandment not a suggestion. We're all hypocrites and sinners, no one is arguing that.

Is not the First and Great commandment to love God? And the Second to love thy neighbor as you love yourself? Yes, it’s hard to obey all the commandments at times. That why repentance is so critical. Another great commandment is Matthew 5:48 “Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.” I can tell you myself, this is probably the hardest commandment to keep. How great is it then that our Father in heaven in merciful! Nobody said that we’re earning heaven. If that was the case nobody would make it. It’s God’s mercy and grace, it’s Christ’s sacrifice and love that saves us. Life is more than just being a decent person and praising Jesus. It’s about aligning your will with the Fathers, keeping his commandments, serving others. It’s about becoming like our savior, and Heavenly Father. If this is not the case then why does God care? Why create this marvelous world, our bodies, our spirits, only to make a few happy forever? Heaven is so much more than joy, it’s so much more than just peace and goodness. It’s inheriting everything the Father has through Jesus Christ. “Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.”

So true. The decision is simple and clear. It is either right or wrong, or, true or false.

@@braider5204 It's not a measuring stick, it's divine law that we are condemned for disobeying. That's why Jesus Christ had to die.

FOOL. Mormon church is not of God

@@footsoldier1188 you can believe that all you want but when we die we’ll see what god says to you if you ask him 🤦🏽‍♂️

Which ones aligned with darkness?

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is God’s kingdom on the earth, the work has progressed and accelerated despite opposition at every turn and severe persecution in its early days. It will continue to roll forth unhindered by the works of man or random RU-vid comments.

To think that masonry is darkness is either intellectual dishonesty or just intellectual deficiency

Out of curiosity, who is "they", and what are the dates/times/places in which on "several" occasions Africans (Berbers? Abyssinians? Yemenites? Ghanaians? Bantus? Congolese?) were not awarded proper credit for writings/knowledge. If you wish to argue that the various cultures and civilizations that have gone to make up the MASSIVE human presence in the African continent have gotten short shrift in terms of contemporary written history, then you have a valid point. However, I can not recall a single moment in the brief history of the LDS Church when someone attempted to claim credit for something that an African-based Civ. was clearly responsible for. As in ever. I do get where your coming from, Ms. Kennedy, but would like to see something a bit more specific. Cheers.

@@zanelegeire8683 if you're interested in LDS history and who to credit start with the Book of Abraham and the Book.

There is no "Morman Church". This video was produced by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

@w96725 Why are you comparing Freemasons with Jesus Christ? There is no comparison. You might as well compare Jesus Christ with the Chicago Bears. Well you're right about one thing. Freemasonry is NOT a Christian society. It is not of ANY faith as it is a FRATERNITY...not a RELIGION. We do not cause division and hatred between faiths as many Christians (and members of other faiths) do. We allow all of our members to practice any faith they wish as what a man believes on a religious front, has absolutely no bearing on his Masonic activities. We have Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus Sikhs etc. People like you give religion a bad name.

@@00Fisher00 the Mormons, same thing

@@gabrielle-d1b "Mormon" in reference to the Church of Jesus Christ or its members has always been a nickname. It is important to us, though, to use the true name of the Church because so many people are confused about it (including the person who commented originally).

As a member of the church and as a mason myself I love they are being more open about this topic.

Read Ezekiel 8:16. Masons have their alters face toward the east because the god they worship is themselves symbolic of the sun and not the SON. Jesus said in secret I have told you nothing. God keeps no secrets from us. Yet in the Masonic lodge, revealing the secrets of Masonry is punishable by death. Why? Because the true worship of the craft isn't revealed to the low level Masons who enter into the Blue Lodges and obtain the first three degrees of initiation. Masonry is an abomination to God. So is the Mormon church established by a blasphemous, secret society.

@@danielrutigliano7938 - Thanks for this.... It's like a blast of light in total darkness.

Would an open mason who is proud post a link of the oaths that are required at each level? Please help me.

@@justindyczewski6640 you can look it up on RU-vid. You can also look up a video on why Freemasonry is not compatible with Christianity.

Does someone who is trying to fit in become a general in a legion and run for POTUS?

And bankrupting Kirkland Ohio

Just kept simple for a short video.

I also loved that, "Based on their experience with both, they (early members) concluded the temple ceremony was of divine origin." Similarly, the Book of Mormon is written in an approximation of Early Modern English, the language of the King James Bible... a form of English that _nobody_ had actively spoken in over a century, especially in the USA. In _both_ cases, the similarity serves an effective _marketing_ purpose. As psychologists have thoroughly documented, that which is _familiar_ is more readily _accepted!_ The biggest _difference_ between the two ceremonies is that Masons pledge to engage in actions that promote the betterment of _society,_ while LDS Church members engage in actions aimed at the exaltation of their _own_ souls. Certainly the Baptism for the Dead ceremony is for the sake of those who have already died, BUT unless one engages in such activity, one cannot reach the Celestial Kingdom, so the motivation is _still_ selfish.

But not the same. And that is the point. For the latter two of them, there is no similar in Freemasonry. For the first two, the only similarities involve the same finger and thumb, but the placement and execution of them are different, as are their meanings.

Hi Jessica, thanks for your comment. This is an introductory video on the topic; we encourage you and others to learn more about this topic, both from Church resources and other accurate and reliable sources. See the Church's in-depth essay on Masonry here: www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/masonry?lang=eng

@@churchofjesuschrist It's founders and the spirit guiding them called themselves "Free Masons" Because they wanted to build their own temple.. A temple that is not built on the stone God has set aside, for they have slain His Son thinking to gain His inheritance.. But God with His mighty and victorious right hand upholds His Beloved Son His Word. Jesus Christ said to them, "Have you never read in the scriptures: 'The very stone which the builders rejected has become the head of the corner; this was the Lord's doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes' Therefore i tell you, the Kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a nation producing the fruits of it."

@@mikaelarkanghel5094 Yes, Freemasonary is Satanism. Preach the truth!

@@wesleynunez3825 Why do you say that? What do you actually know about it?

Please do some actual research, Don't believe this false information

Anyone can know for themselves that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is God's true Church upon the Earth, if they seek that knowledge from God sincerely.

Blake Green it completely conflicts.

I'm still undecided personally on the matter.

@@tracywhited no... it doesn't lol but good try

@@ewigerschuler3982 that's 100% okay. It's good to do the research and make your own decisions. I am a freemason and I have never seen anything that challenges my beliefs or makes me follow another secular belief. All rituals and stories are from the bible and of biblical characters. I can promise all of that :) but i know it's hard if you aren't a Mason and dont know what we are all about

@@tracywhited Religion does not conflict with Freemasonry, even if some religious adherents choose to.

Alejandro Avalos there’s no fun in being honest right?

Actually, he seems to be inspiring quite a few mean-spirited comments that falsely disparage the Church of Jesus Christ or prophets of God.

Jay Britton Fisher sounds like you’re demeaning the demeanors

So is the oval office clone in the DC temple next on the ..."Now you Know" video list ? Is the big reveal coming up this election cycle ? There is an open house slated after current renovations right ?

Satan started the chat!

For the same reasons that one might join the Boy Scouts, Toastmasters, the Sons/Daughters of the American Revolution, or even subscribe to a membership at the local public library.

I agree. You don't need religion to have a relationship with God

@@srso4660 Consider the following verses of scripture: 23 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;) 24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: 25 *Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is;* but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching. 26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28 He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. (Hebrews 10:23-31, KJV)

Elaborate?

Have been for the last TWO THOUSAND YEARS!!!

@@The_Other_Ghost 2k years is like 1 day to God. But who's to say when your life will expire as God said no day is promised to anyone. So hopefully your life is in line with God.

@Awaken To Life "An occultic cult"? Can you explain that and qualify it in any way, using verifiable sources? It sounds like you have no idea.

Jay Britton Fisher chill

You should watch the video again to hear what the narrator is really saying.

Blatantly willing to change what you heard less than five minutes ago? This is why there are so many churches.

Kabbalah. _Joseph Smith and Kabbalah: The Occult Connection_ by Lance S. Owens

See also witchcraft more generally, all Qabbalah-based

You mean that free mason began in a tavern in Europe

What are those origins?

@@onefodderunit bingo!

Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints seek truth directly from God, and the Church provides useful information in videos like this. You can learn about the Church of Jesus Christ at ComeUntoChrist.org or ChurchOfJesusChrist.org.

Just always remember that watching RU-vid videos does not constitute research.

Do you know what the Masonic "vision" is?

Jay Britton Fisher Yes, and has nothing to do with salvation for the people. Do you know what is salvation ?

@@danieljust295 Sure. What are your sources for understanding Freemasonry?

Hi @Sam Miller, thanks for your comment. This is an introductory video on the topic; we encourage you and others to learn more about this topic, both from Church resources and other accurate and reliable sources. See the Church's in-depth essay on Masonry here: www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/masonry?lang=eng

Yeah...they just killed him instead

Didn't he steal it from Egypt?

Excellent point, but to be fair to them they were focusing on a variety of other angles to destroy him. I guess it worked.

@@theresakennedy7339 While I'm not an expert on the subject, I am a member of the church of Jesus Christ and I've seen a lot of theories about where he could have received it. I've heard a lot of theories like Free Masons, Jewish (temple) rites, egyptian temple ceremonies, the primitive christian church etc. etc. I have also been amazed to find temple patterns in certain buddhist/hindu ceremonies, dervish ceremonies, ancient american artifacts/writings, and even some catholic writings and presentations. I personally believe that God has taught these things at various and sundry times to His church and principles of them have been preserved in a variety of ways through many cultures. I believe that God revealed these things to Joseph Smith in the same manner as in times past as part of the fullness of the restoration of the gospel in our time.

@@ephraimsbeard8508 Nine Masons were alleged to have participated in Joseph's martyrdom, but they were never proven to have done so. An alleged nine Masons out of a mob of 200+ people is not logically indicative of negative sentiment from the Grand Lodge of Illinois or the Grand Lodge of Missouri.

Thanks for sharing your testimony and experience, Sara.

That is great stuff.

What Masonic ceremony did you see? None of the ones in which I've officiated resemble the Church's temple endowment ceremony at all in regard to subject matter, context, or purpose.

LDS member, Senator Mitt Romney is a great statesman.

Brit B I do believe in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior and I do read the Bible. Thanks!

Exactly... That is what the "christians" have been teaching since the apostasy of Christ's church. That is why it is SO AMAZING that Christ has restored His church in the "restitution of all things" as prophesied by Christ, His Apostles and many other prophets.

John Pratt: Does It TRULY Matter...!!

I do think he is speaking. I have always think he is mason

If the fraternal orders of Freemasonry are such a benevolent society then why do they work in secret? Why are the lodges to this day segregated between male and female, between blacks and whites? Jesus said, In secret, I have told you nothing. Our Lord kept no secrets from those who followed Him. Yet, initiates in the Masonic Lodge are threatened with death if they reveal the secrets of Masonry. Sounds like something I would really want to join. Please read the Bible. Please read Ezekiel 8:16 and ask yourself whose alters face toward the east and why. And not the one in the Mormon church, but a KJV or ESV Bible. Take care.

You both are dead on, I was a Mason and Rosicrucian...both Satan worship the God of this world at the top levels. Mormons should have nothing to do with Freemasonry but unfortunately it is interwoven throughout its history including Brigham Young being a Mason and many others.

@@Hpencer yes, exactly. The same thing with The Catholic Church and Jehovahs Witnesses.

@@ephraimsbeard8508 Please explain to me if AMORC is what you define as Rosicrucian? And please explain in great detail, how any Rosicrucian body is Satanic? Thank you for your time and effort, understanding this is VERY important to me.

@@danielrutigliano7938 Why do nations keep secrets from each other? You think very naively. What's worth guarding isnt given so easily. Dont cast Pearls before swine.

Given that Freemasonry is not a religion and focuses on building bridges in the community, I wholly disagree. Most Masons are faithful, active Christians.

🧭 The Mason's Carpenter's Compass (Arch) over a Carpenter's Square (Angle) has references to The Carpenter's Son Jesus and Arch + Angle = Archangel. With a Carpenter's Compass being used to make Circles - a Symbol for Heaven. While a Square is a Symbol for Earth. With Two Carpenter's Squares joined Corner to Corner making a Crucifix. With a Circle over a Crucifix making a ♀️ A simplified Egyptian Ankh Key 🗝️ of Life - God's Eye Symbol. With the Bible being translated from Egyptian Aramaic, Hebrew and Greek. With there being many more Godly teachings, within the Mason's Symbology. And Ephesians 6:12 Clearly states we are in a Spiritual War. People are too reliant on what other people say. Instead of prayerfully asking to our Heavenly Father, in the name of Jesus. To know what is true, by The Holy Ghost. 🙏

Does any source outside your gut tell you this?

@@00Fisher00

its in the scriptures. the freemasons do kill though. they are about death but completely opposite.

P. M. I’m sure that if this were true, the church would update their policy and advise against or forbid members from becoming masons. They definitely wouldn’t have just released a video saying that members are not prohibited from joining and talking about how Freemasons are all about service, charity, and self-improvement. This is what happens to the church too. People read false information and start to think we’re a cult and worship Satan

Freemasonry has nothing to do with Lucifer. Those who believe that Pike said any such thing have never read his words in-context; Pike never made any such admission.

I am saddened by such ignorance but have heard similar vile inference before. The person who spoke this lie, was misinformed. A good soul and God loving man or woman stands for righteousness & living a life of humanitarian service. Our mighty nation was conceived by the likes of George Washington & Benjamin Franklin. The LDS prophet Joseph Smith & many more of the faith ; also, follow, with honor, the sacred example~of The Son of God, Jesus, The Christ, Redeemer & Savior.

@@BrandonCole_edohi he absolutely did in “morals and dogma “.

It's an informative channel. The videos in the channel tend to either explain beliefs of the Church or clarify common misconceptions about the Church.

This is the official channel of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Have you never sought revelation yourself? You should. Everyone should. It's important to have a relationship with God, and to receive truth from Him. As you do, you will find that sometimes God reveals things to you directly, but sometimes He helps us recognize truth that already exists in the world around us. The same was true for Joseph Smith.

Christ alone? But what of the Father? Do we just ignore the Father? I think not. I don't even think Christ would have something like that in mind.

Angel Alvarado does the shape matter?? If it’s round, flat or square does it really make a difference????

Given that these videos are made for nonmembers to understand better, it's probably simpler to put it that way for the needs of video. Also because he was responsible for the temporal establishment of the church and his name would be on any paperwork, he can be called the founder from a temporal perspective. At least as I understand it.

Bárbara Tolli Denyszczuk I think these videos are made in mind for those who have little knowledge of gospel terms.

Bárbara Tolli Denyszczuk Yeah, good point. Joseph Smith was not the founder of the Church of Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ founded that, clearly. But, Joseph Smith was the founder of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, a particular contemporary religious institution that is completely modeled after the Church of Jesus Christ and is directed and empowered through the same priesthood of God it had - in other words, it is the authorized Church of Jesus Christ _in the latter days_. But yeah we usually do talk about Joseph more as a “restorer”...

I notice this too and Reading your comment, in my mind come when in The Book Of Mórmon, Alma was called Founder of The Church of God. I dont know if can have some thing in comon.

We members of the Church believe that Joseph legally founded and organized the Church under the direction of God. 🙂

Is not secret, it’s sacred ;)

The masons and the LDS are both organizations known for their many many good works for others 👍

2 Esdras 6:9 “For Esau is the end of the world, and Jacob is the beginning of it that followeth.”

Anything divinely inspired comes to us uncorrupted originally. Temple buildings indeed do point to Christ in all things.

Jesus Christ says that He is the true, and new temple. His life on earth allows us to "enter into Him". To abide in him. "God incarnate" is synonymous with "Temple" as Christ in human form solves the problem of the temple's limitations. Before Christ, humans needed a temple building so they could walk into the divine- or heavenly presence. Christ walking on the earth was the same heavenly presence of the temple- but in a human body. Since Christ ascended into heaven, he gave us the Holy Spirit to enter in us so that we can always be living filled with that divine temple presence wherever we go- so long as we turn to Christ alone as our only divine source and stay repentant. If we want, we can still worship in our temple buildings and try and get divine presence to dwell in them but, it becomes impractical and excessive- if all that work can be done because of what Christ already is for us- and in us. "Incarnation + Holy Spirit in us" > "Temple"

@@jeremysyrenne5294 I've worshipped and served in modern temples, and I see at least part of why God desires for us to do so. I'd encourage you to learn more about it.

Good call.

@@rickmiller8893 What is heretical here?

All of Mormonism basically.

@@TCallier "Mormonism" isn't really anything. Do you know anything about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

The name of the Church has been the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints since 1838. "Mormonism" has always been a nickname. This video isn't meant to convince anyone to join the Church of Jesus Christ; it's just providing helpful insight.

Those of us with firsthand experience both as temple-endowed members of the Church and as Freemasons know that the suspicions and criticisms to which you refer are not "well-founded."

Have you looked for similar imagery in other ancient cultures?

Symbols are finite and ambiguous. There is no one symbol that is limited to a single group or interpretation. The Church adopted some symbols from Masonry and adapted them to teach the Church's already-existing doctrine. Given that the Church does not use them in any Masonic context or for any Masonic purposes, it is therefore incorrect to state that the Church used the Masonic square and compasses.

They're still on the garments.

@@BrandonCole_edohi What about the pentagram on the Utah Temple? Joe Myth was a fraud.

@@BrandonCole_edohi and they were used in many ancient cultures! Very ancient Chinese paintings and manuscripts show the "compass and square" being used to create the world. They're also prominently shown in early Christian paintings and described in Gnostic texts. The masons didn't make them up- they took them from these cultures. No wonder Joseph felt the Spirit when he first learned about them!