Joseph Stalin's Heavy Break Through Tank (Epic Battles of History) 

this is correct, not 43

It's sad that there are very few documentaries on the legendary IS tank , while for Tiger, T34, Sherman there is so much Information and Footage on RU-vid. IS2 was a breakthroughs tank which demolished Nazi Hard fortifications which no other tank could do. It was the Heavy Mobile Artillery without which a few thousand more T34 would have been destroyed by Germans.

oh yeah that's true.....wasn't it accidently driven into a ditch which is why it was captured?

@Steamsmith GG Something like that. It was ether driven into a ditch or got stuck in the mud. In any case, it was abandoned by its crew, that how it was captured by the Soviet forces...

true

@@Em_Youl The seemingly eternal nuisance of most documentary videos. Do they ever learn that viewers need information, not the disturbing music?

The music was kind of too loud the whole time. It might be a nice backdrop but it really is just a nuisance

Might be to avoid copyright

i was wondering what music hes using, i bet narrator forgot to lower the volume or setting he edit didn't save and this happened i think

Yeah kind of wtf? They were using mm and inches at the same time. Use the international standards or at least write them on the screen if you are not saying it.

Have you heard about EU.ASIA.OCEANA ?

@@dooler6930 t

typical american ignorancy what should i tell you

@@erikmeri3962 Fuck America

Nice

Exactly, unfortunately, with information at people's fingertips.. people have become dumber than ever!

Russians was most

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Exactly as Germans you call them Germans but Austria ugaria Romania tsexia Slovakia Ukraine Croatia Slovenia Bulgaria Finland Denmark fight with them they are just Nazis

@@JuergenGDBJürgen, smart phones only made dumb people stupider.

Lol no engine would stop it

don't exaggerate

Too slow to shoot, left them vulnerable

​@@peterlojewski7057 They did have a really bad reload rate but it was not just one IS-2 by itself. They would normally go in a platoon of 3 or 4 medium tanks like the t-34/76 or 85and a heavy heavy tank platoon would consist of 2 heavy tanks is-2 or KV variant. These numbers were less than a German tank platoon which was normally 5 medium and 4 heavy tanks in a heavy tank platoon. But the problem with that is one man ahs more of a much higher responsibility commanding 5 tanks instead of commanding the 4 which left room for more mistakes. But what I am trying to say is that the IS-2 would have other tanks near him that he can rely on to protect him in some way leaving him to go back behind a hill or bush

No no it could not go through a panther but it could take on out at that range but not go all the way through

It’s unknown which version it was actually

Also the long barreled 75(PAK 43) could piece the armor of the KV1 and 2. Plus I haven’t seen much reports of KV-2 fighting King Tiger’s

@@i_stoleyour_hotpocket1205 they are saying the gun was powerful enough to pen the armor of a tiger II, the kv2 stopped production in 1942 anyway.

@@sir17pounder8 KV-2s cannot penetrate a King Tiger's Frontal, Lower, Turret Front and cheeks. Using High Explosive however, is a different story. When you aim at the turret, the overpressure and shrapnel can easily pierce the roof and it was fatal to the crews in the Hull and in some cases, it may perform a 1 shell 1 kill.

@@nicm.z9868 I never said I agreed with them, I agree with you, the anti concrete shell used by the KV-2 has no chance of even slightly damaging a Tiger 2, but the HE shell, as you said, could easily cause a shockwave big enough to kill the crew or send shrapnel through the weak hull roof armor

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Ummm yeah right... LOL, They were just units that had 90-100% logistical capability. Yes, they were the tip of their spear of sorts, but that being said by 1944 Bagration it was either do or die. In fact, we look at stats today (from good books) and see that had the Allies not committed to a Second Front in the West, the Russians would have been in dire straights by 1945 economically. So had the war lingered for another 2 years let's say in the East till 1946 Russia would be hard-pressed to not only pay their men but make new toys. The JS series was shit, sure they could do damage like any other tank, but were slow firing and had shitty maintenance. Most reasons why you never hear how bad maintenance was for the Russian or American tanks, was the fact that they could replace them rather easily, from days to a couple weeks. I met a Russian man, who was a GrandFather to a good friend of mine that said half the T-34's leaving the factory had shitty welding and leaked all the time. Some good books on the subject.

Wrong Guards was just a badge or insignia given to those that fought with great courage. They had the same training as any other soviet units but would be given priority in new equipment

​@@JuergenGDBso a self propelled artillery installation is bad because it fires slow. Very inch-re-stin-g

@JuergenGDB Except no? The IS-2 was a very solid heavy tank design. It was more reliable than either Tiger variant, and most tanks found on the Eastern front. It was an exceptional tank whose weight was comparable to a Panther while being able to punch through them over great distances. As for the Soviet economy, the state would have been able to keep the war going pretty well by the 1944 mark in the war. They regained much of their territory and had oil. Even if production had to slow down for whatever reason, the Soviets basically won by 1944 as the Germans didn't have oil from Romania anymore. That war wouldn't have lasted in the way you're imagining it might. The Germans wouldn't be able to launch offensives like what they once did. They might produce more heavy tanks, more Me-262s, but not in the numbers they desperately needed just to hold the Soviets back. Between that and patriotic fervor, we wouldn't see the Soviet state collapsing. They survived 1941-1943, rations improving gradually as people heard "yeah, the people who genocided us are almost beaten. Let's conquer their asses." While saying "yes, let's get revenge."

I suppose its IS-2 because In Russian its spelt Iosif with an I, not a J. At least I always call it an IS-2.

Йосиф Сталин is more correctly transliterated as "Iosif Stalin" but is more commonly rendered as "Joseph Stalin", hence the confusion between IS and JS

IS. Iosef's name when anglicised is translated to Josef. So IS tanks were called JS by the West.

From WoTB I guess...

Where u get this info

@@tangmengtit888 Books, internet, education -- you name it!

@@Semyon_Semyonych okay

especially since metric is what the Soviets actually used

@@danielkorladis7869 since metric is what 95% of world population is using

They say that the KV-1 halted the offence of the 6th panzer division but it was a KV-2, also that story is exaggerated.

Very true... also... the 122mm couldn't actually pen the frontal armor of a Tiger 2 though he says it did.,.

QuickyTime Still, a direct hit from it’s HE shell could cripple a tiger 2

@@tantainguyen4290 only if aimed at the Tiger 2's turret ring, which is almost impossible given the bad accuracy of most Russian guns

Choo Yong Ming Im not talking about War Thunder. In real life, the sheer amount of explosives inside of the 122mm HE shell can kill almost any tank in WW2 because of spalling. You aim at the turret then the Tiger 2 will be effectively knock out because its gun will be damaged.

The hard fact was that it was actually a KV-2 that held up the 6th Panzer not what he pictured or said

I don't know but tbh it sounds a little bit exaggerated. But nonetheless how did your father made it out alive? Was he captured?

Iosef Stalin : Joseph Stalin, so yeah, both work

@@historysimplified4075 make your own video then

Jan Arven Belmes I made this comment a year ago... OK so I wanted to say that the JS-2 was BETTER quality than the t-34 BUT it was still not great, this is mostly because the russians did not have the proper tempreture readings for their metal leading to some tanks getting cracks. While the Americans for example had this, and therefore had more effectivity in the field. So not bad, but not good.

@@historysimplified4075 Didn't matter the T34 and IS-2 faced majority of the Wehrmacht while the Western forces faced leftovers, the best Allied tank aces were mostly Soviet and with the T34. Majority of Soviet (not Russian mind you) tank losses were due to the Luftwaffe, not due to cracks or production problems. Ofcourse Soviets produced tanks at a very rapid rate and they are cheap so they will have QC problems..but if Soviet factories had more time producing them they would have as good metallurgy as the West Even then , strategy and experience will determine effectiveness on the battlefield over metallurgy. Lavrienko destroyed 58 German tanks in 38' to 41' with a T34...that has nothing to do with how the tank is fabricated, the tank is well designed enough for an individual to score such...none of the Soviet lend lease Shermans comes close to that record

Jan Arven Belmes When the allies landed in Normandy the germans sent the majority of the Tiger to the British front because they where sure that they where better than their other enemies. What the russians faced was mostly Panzerkampfwagen III and IV, sometimes Panther. Yes, they did meet a couple of KönigsTiger in Berlin, but that is mostly it. And yes, the T-34 did have problems. The one you pointed out is a pre-war T-34 that was better quality because it was not rushed into combat like the mid to late war T-34s. So some T-34 had good quality, but most T-34 would break down in 3 months after leaving the factory. It was not well designed at all, the crew could often never even get out of the tank when it started burning, the T-34-85 is better but still, the driver and radio-operator could almost never get out in time.

@@historysimplified4075 "To the British Front". Yeah pretty much sums up how you don't know shit you are talking about

He sounds like a 23 year old RU-vidr with the naive excitable voice of a millennial 🤣 whose history comes from video games .

haven't you ever watch an American documentary? They're always like this

....Unless it's a 152mm :D Obligatory "uhh actually T34 is an american heavy tank, T-34 is the soviet medium tank". Because why not.

@@EdyAlbertoMSGT3 I think the US T34 was never actually put in production.

I know. His voice and the way he speaks are very annoying, but such as yourself I presume, I enjoy videos about tanks and history so I watched.

Especially that "Warmacht" bugged me a lot, it's literally just WEHRmacht. It shouldn't be that hard even for anglo-saxons to pronounce.

He surrendered? Traitor.

@@нєманрсь why die for a war that is already ? :/ its for sure no fun when your Tiger 2 is getting surrounded from 20 Shermans

@@leo.r9253 He swore an oath. That's why.

I salute him. Ein sehr gut Panzergeneral.

@@нєманрсь nope, only brain washed people swore an oath.

the same as Bf-109 and Me-109

JS is just the english translation.

Spelling.

Russians call it IS-2 due to the way they pronounce J as I in Russian language. To them Stalin's name is written and pronounced as Iosif Stalin, westerners pronounce it as Joseph with J. And as most of us know this heavy tank was named after Stalin. So there you have it, both are correct but I personally prefer IS-2 over JS-2. Even though I am not Russian nor do I know Russian beyond oversimplified basics.

@@averagejoeschmoe9186 I suppose IS-2 is technically more accurate. Though of course the Soviets didn't (and Russians still don't) use the same alphabet.

Better than your videos, oh wait, you don't even have any..

English speakers seem to really think that english pronunciation rules can be applied whenever possible.

@@AlASokolov You know if you want to speak Spanish or Italian just add "O" at the end of every English word. Hahahaha!

@@znentitan4032 Sure! "Operazione Bagrationо"

@@AlASokolov You're not saying it right..... It's "Operraziono Bago-Rationo!" Hahahaha!

I know that

IS - iosif stalin

I think he was taking the angle into account.

many heavy AT guns with sufficient kinetic energy or HE energy could just crack the plate and spall the crew to death, or just obliterate the weld seams, just making the whole plate fall off

there is no dash cam in that time, sorry.

Did you not watch the video ?

@@bakapotato5327 I did. I just threw it there. I said I heard that and made a joke about "oh this isnt true is it lol" but obviously it wasnt very clear

Yes. It's true. The IS2 gun shot often dislocated Germans Tiger and Phanter turret for 50cm.

Nope 88 mm more accurately

Yes the 88mm was more accurate especially at long range, the IS-2 had much more power in its gun, if it was in closer combat it could stop a road from being taken

@@deanlin9105 122 mm gun was as accurate as germans 88 mm.

@@7632ios Americans experts estimated it like very desent. Usually commentators confuse triplex optics and scope optics. At the begining war serios problem began with the quality tanks optics, especially with triplexes. But IS-2 was put into service in 1944, when the problems had already been resolved. IS-2 has good scope optics and good accurate gun.

Bs, the encounter your talking about is IS-122 model 1943, which was an experimental design and was not the finalized mod 1944. The crews were also not trained on the tank properly. In reality the IS-2 mod 1944 caused so much panic among the Wehrmacht that Wehrmacht command ordered their panzers to avoid engagement with the IS-2 unless they possessed tactical or numerical superiority. The IS-2 was much cheaper than the tiger and panther, with much better reliability than both the tiger and panther, and ~10,000 IS-2s were produced, more than all the tigers and panthers combined.

@@Insert-Retarded-Reply-Here That is wrong : "And in regard to the comments about engaging in firefights with JS tanks at platoon strength he added -"...three Tigers should not flee from five Josef Stalin tanks only because they cannot start the firefight at full platoon strength.... Many times tank-versus-tank combat will be directly decided , not by the number of tanks, but more often by superior combat tactics. . Although the Wehrmacht noted the appearance of the Stalin and adressed it: ""In many cases the the Josef Stalin tanks let themselves engage in a firefight only at long ranges (over 2000m) and also only when they themselves are in favourable positions on the edge of woods, villages, or on a ridge line." It then goes on to add - The enemy crews tend to evacuate their tanks immediately the first shot is fired at them." Other comments -"In addition, a firefight with Josef Stalin tanks should not be undertaken in less than platoon strength. Employment of single Tigers means their loss." In response to this report Heinz Guderian, the Inspector general of the Panzer Truppen added some comments. When discussing the tactics employed by Tiger units he was concerned that the crews believing in the invincibility of the Tiger were tending to disregard the principles of tank tactics. Quote -"Statements like "thick fur", "impregnable", and the "security" of the crews inside the Tigers ....... must be wiped out and forgotten." And in regard to the comments about engaging in firefights with JS tanks at platoon strength he added -"...three Tigers should not flee from five Josef Stalin tanks only because they cannot start the firefight at full platoon strength.... Many times tank-versus-tank combat will be directly decided , not by the number of tanks, but more often by superior combat tactics." In regard to Points 5 and 6 - At a time when there are 12.2cm tank guns and 5.7cm anti tank guns on the Eastern Front just like the 9.2cm anti-tank/aircraft guns on the Western Front and in Italy, the Tiger can no longer disregard the tactical principles that apply to the other type of Panzers. Also, just like other Panzers, a few Tigers can't drive up on a ridegeline to observe the terrain. In just such a situation, three Tigers received direct hits and were destroyed by a 12.2cm shells resulting in all but two of the crew members being killed. The principles of Panzer tactics, that Panzers should only cross a ridgeline together, rapidly (leaf-frogging by bounds) and under covering fire, or else the Panzers must drive around the height - were definitely not unknown in this Tiger-Abteilung. Statements like "thick fur", "impregnable", and the"security" of the crews in the Tigers, which have become established phrases by other units and also partially within the Panzertruppen, must be wiped out and invalidated. Instead, it is especially important for Tiger units to pay direct attention to the general combat principles applicable for tank-versus-tank combat.