It's a damn shame that the NHL can't profit off fans wanting to listen to the game uncensored. Obviously they can take out the worst of the worst that's being said, but my gosh I'd happily pay $20 a month just to listen to them on the bench, in the penalty box and just mic'd up in general.
I’ve always believed that the NHL should have a no commentary broadcast option where you just hear the ice level action, the game would be much better hearing some of the conversations that take place and the penalty box conversations would enhance it too. Nothing has to be edited or removed, if someone says something that is offensive to someone they have to live with that, might even hurt them in the wallet in terms of merchandise sales but that’s on that player. I’m not a wimp so nothing is offensive to me. I just enjoy hearing the trash talking and the witty responses. Cory Perry’s on ice actions were some of the best. Squirting water in opposing players gloves and stuff like that.
I agree. First of all, it doesn't look like he hit him that hard. Secondly, I'm not entirely convinced he knew he was hitting him near the neck. Boeser looks like he was kinda falling before the hit. Terrible ejection.
@@mpthorvonericksen Boeser was definitely off balance and falling back before the hit. He definitely sold that quite a bit, and then looked perfectly fine only seconds later.
What’s crazy is in the Boston-Florida game that same type of thing happened and Lundell only got 2 for doing it to Poitras, which looked a lot worse than this.
Bruh it wasn’t the ref’s decision. The league determined it was a major and game misconduct penalty. I’m guessing it was more so the act. I’m pretty sure if Boeser didn’t fall dramatically, they wouldn’t have gone to the league.
What's funny is that Vancouver only ended up with six seconds of power play time from this whole thing. They took two minors right after. Combined with Boeser's minor, Colorado actually had more power play time in the five minutes after Manson was ejected. Game management.
Boeser takes a dive and hockey gets more like soccer everyday! Diveboy tries to hit Mason in the face and in doing so, smacks himself in the face. Poor little kid Boeser!
1st game? I've seen way worse, guys get crosscheck in arm, try to sell it and end up hitting their helmet off the crossbar and cut their nose with visor lol
@@MissKorea-oy9ip Respectfully, you are blind if you don't see this was a fire sale by Boeser. Maybe YOU would have reacted like that, he is a professional athlete. No need to go down like you've been shot, especially if all you have to show for it is a tiny speck of blood. That is no excuse for the extra stank he put on that. He wanted a penalty, and he got rewarded by the referees for it. In my eyes this is an egregious enough sale, this should be offsetting minors.
@@xRawPower Disclosure: I'm a Canucks fan and that's why I'm here. But anytime someone gets a stick in the face and BLEEDS, how can you blame them for going down? How can you accuse them of diving? Manson thought he sold the call because he wasn't even looking and didn't hit hard (which is why I think the 5+game was harsh). But he drew blood, man.
Unbelievable. That was a baby x check. 2 minute minor at most. It was the Canuck player initiating contact and lifting Mansons stick that caused it to come up. Then he embellished it big time. What is going on with the NHL right now?
Regardless of how weak it is, it was in the face/neck area, which is an automatic 5. Even if his stick was lifted, Manson still had the ability to just not cross check Boeser. You're responsible for where your stick goes, even if it unintentionally goes high. I think it was a bit of a sell from Boeser, but they called it by the rules. Stuff happens.
What???!!! How in the world is that a match penalty??? Yes 2 mins for sure and maybe 4 mins but to put 5 mins plus match when it is clear the player flopped??? What???
Just to clarify, he got a game misconduct. Not a match. Just means he’s out for the rest of that game. A match would mean he is suspended pending review
Are you allowed to cross check players in the face? no Are you allowed to draw blood with a stick check to the body? no Manson cross checked boeser in the face, causing a bloody nose. is that not intent to injure? then yes 5 min major should have been called
I'd have called 4 minutes each. Manson 2+2 for highstick/crosscheck and drawing blood. Boeser gets 2 for the cross check and 2 for unsportsmanlike on the incredibly excessive embellishment. Also, that level of embellishment usually comes with a fine, so...
@@SleeCeeif you think that pushing back against someone actively crosschecking you while not even looking in the direction of that player is somehow intent to injure, then you should also see Boeser's actions as instigating, which is an automatic 2+5+10. Both are clear and obvious exaggerations of what actually happened, but....
@@T-Ysjs12 You have no idea what your talking about, go look up 7.11 rule If you careless swing your stick at any opposing player causing damage or injury then its 5 and a game. see Kassian Vs Gagner as a prime example. You and only you, the player are responsible for your stick at all times. same as if the opposing player steps on your stick blade and trips- You still get the penalty.
@@SleeCee again, an obvious exaggeration of what actually happened. He put his stick up to push back against an angry player that was actively crosschecking him
This is a very strange route the NHL is taking to try and cut down on the cross-checking. Instead of, you know, just calling the penalties when they happen.
That was not a 5 minute worthy cross checking penalty. I can see why Colorado and Manson didn’t like it. Likewise, that was a trip and how they could not call that just shows how shitty the officiating has been this season.
@@AmokCanuck I mean you can watch the clip for yourself, but regardless… it wasn’t Manson’s fault, which is pretty much the whole point. The refs were on shit when they made it anything higher than even just a 2 minute.
My question is why are they even reviewing in the first place? The initial call was 2-minute minor for Manson, which is not reviewable. Only a double-minor or a major are reviewable.
Maybe cause there was blood on a potential high sticking? I’m just guessing- it made me think of last season when Manson got high sticked and they stopped play for the injury but not the penalty, but then they couldn’t review it because there wasn’t blood so they couldn’t call a penalty, like it was either 4 min or nothing. (The “no injury, no penalty” call) I have no idea though…
Regardless of the call being right or wrong, it’s absolutely insane how long it takes them to review the call. Totally interrupting the flow of the game.
@@AmokCanuck It's clear this should have been at the very most offsetting minors, but your bias is showing, Mr. ThatoneCanuck. It's amazing how people can have all the access to facts and still be so confidently wrong.
Avs fan here. To those calling for embellishment, I say it was not. He had a bloody nose. Any shot to the schnozz hard enough to cause bleeding is gonna evoke a reaction in anyone not trained in taking a punch. The bit after, clutching his face....maybe a bit excessive, but not everyone processes pain the same way. So just a cross-check for Boeser. But for Manson...the rule states: "59.1 Cross-checking - The action of using the shaft of the stick between the two hands to forcefully check an opponent." I would like to point out the word forcefully. I do not think what Manson did rises to the level of "forcefully." So it would be a high-stick, and there was blood, so a double minor. I do think that a good chuck of the power in the hit to the nose was supplied by Boeser, which to me negates any possibility of a major, even if you do call it a cross-check. The trip was a missed call, for sure. But the refs missed it, and they cant go back and review it, nor should they be going back far enough to even see it when reviewing the net front stuff. So it should have no bearing on the call. But maybe it did...maybe they figured trip plus double minor equals major + GM. Not sure how that math works, but I am not an NHL ref. They did end up calling a couple minors on the Canucks while the major was being served, so VAN only ended up with like 6 seconds of PP time for the whole major (right at the start Nichushkin was still in the box), but the Avs got a total of 60 (which makes sense...Boeser 2, Beauvillier 2 and Myers 2 is 6 min, with 9 seconds of the Myers slash spilling over the end of the major. So despite the major penalty that shouldn't have been, no damage was done.
@@eltaco5471 As an Avs fan and someone who was at the game last night... the answer is- Majority of them no. LOL. Boeser sold it though. 2 mins each in my opinion. I was laughing with all the fans around me being completely outraged by Manson getting 2. It was a cross check for sure and he accidently got him a little high, but 5 mins and a misconduct is a reach.
There was a second cross check to the face later in the game, again by Colorado, but that one wasn’t called, refs in the NHL are funny on what they do and don’t call
Ok, so here’s what we’re gonna do to improve the NHL: You know how there are constant whistles, penalties, scrums, injuries, ice maintenance, goal reviews, goal-review-challenges, goal-review-challenge-challenges, timeouts, and TV timeouts…? Well, unfortunately, the game still isn’t slow enough. So, from now on, we are going to take a break-after every break-so that we can watch every replay-of every replay-until we come up with a way to give someone a misconduct. Sound good?
This entire situation is genuinely embarrassing for the NHL. You know Boeser is gonna take a lot of shit from his peers for this - rightfully so, imo. Look at all the soccer fans defending him in the comments, it's hilarious.
@@xRawPower boes has the heart of a lion. I absolutely adore the guy. Don't judge a book by its cover. Maybe the guy shouldnt be cross checking him to begin with. Fuck it, draw that pentaly brock.
I mean, it looks like Manson's movement was in reaction to Boeser's crosscheck... is it not natural to try to push away someone trying to crosscheck you??
Due hard canucks fan and I was very surprised that was a major. Should have been a 2 minute high stick. They did the right thing and called the major so they could view the replay and overturn but they didn't. Not sure what their rational was. Manson's trip non call on Boeser earlier in the shift was much worse!
If they call that a major cause a non call on the trip earlier I would be so much more pissed off. I do not understand how they can have all the same replays we do and still get it wrong. And I don't want to call embellishment there but what's with the head snapping back like Manson stepped through him? You have 2 guys crosschecking eachother infront of the net like idiots and the guy who's still standing at the end gets a major and the guy on the ice gets 2.
It's the right call. As the announcers mentioned, it's penalizing the player based on behavior instead of the injury. Think of it like a speeding ticket. The speeding ticket is designed to change the behavior of motorists so that they don't make any more unneccessary risks.....in this case, although it wasnt intended/hard, just dont get into the habit of cross checking someones head.
Lol these refs were a joke. Boeser acting like a soccer player flopping. Look up evander kane if you wanna see cross checks to the head. 2 min high stick should have been the call.
As a Canucks fan, Manson had two obvious penalties on the same play that weren’t called, so Boeser was probably like I’ll have to sell it a bit for these refs to even notice. Soft penalties all game. Can’t wait for the rematch between these two teams, that’ll be fun to watch.
Holy. Didn't know the NHL started hiring soccer players to play. That was such a weak call. Boeser sold that one by acting like a p*ssy. Should get an Oscar for that acting. If the call goes under review they should take the players "injury" or lack thereof into account as well. If the guy is fine during the review and chirping at other players, then clearly he is not injured and was just acting to sell a penalty. He should get a penalty for embellishment or delay of game, or both. Maybe that would actually stop people from acting like soccer players on the ice. What's next, players are going to start getting tapped on the shoulder and falling over like they have been shot?
Should have seen the cheap shot Lundell threw to Poitras last night, that’s worthy of a 5 and a suspension but Bettman can’t let his cash cow bums be penalized! This compared to that cross check is nothing, Boeser sold that
