Josh Pate On FSU Leaving The ACC - July Bombshell Coming? (Late Kick Cut) 

Sorry... When it's all said and done FSU will be in the SEC. That is the right decision for the city of Tallahassee and the University as a whole.

I don’t see them going to the big10, the SEC looks like a better fit but anything can happen

the right choice in 1991 was the SEC, just as it is now. I wouldn't be surprised to see FSU pick the B1G if they had the choice of both.

@@utcnc7mm With revenue sharing, the Big Ten makes more money than the SEC so FSU could pay more than SEC schools if it joined the B1G

@@nick21614 when you look at travel, would it be worth it?

LMAO I didn’t catch that on the live I wish I saw what chat said

‘Noles & Canes will come over to the SEC eventually!!! Mark it down!!

already has. when you started seeing corporate sponsors attaching their names to bowl games was the beginning of the end.

bullshit. conference realignment has been going on since the very start of the sport

I think it’s getting better lol. These matchups this year are great

It already did. You have championships being determined behind closed doors by TV executives based on prospective TV ratings and advertising dollars over winning.

@@fsu5452 thats just sour grapes. I had no "financial" interest in playoffs and didn't think FSU was good enough either. committee got it right.

FSU will never be considered a prestigious academic school lmao

They got that ranking for a reason. FSU academics are pretty strong these days. Certain colleges within the university are the best in the SE.

@@BBenton07 FSU is NOT top 20 in academics lmao.

@@chrishaugh1655 Among public universities (as the post suggests^) they’re #23 in the country in 2024. Higher than Mich St, Penn St, Rutgers, Indiana, Oregon, Iowa to name a few.

@@BBenton07 what POST are you talking about buddy? No officially recognized system of academic rankings for the US has them in the top 40.

I'm a Miami fan! Lets be clear, CFB allows the B10 and SEC to get the tv money, they are getting now and in the future. If that is the case, if you going to add teams to the B10, they must add teams, that makes B10 FB better with history, weekly matchups, the potential to win big and match what the SEC has at the top with LSU, Texas, Oklahoma, Alabama, UF, UGA, Tennessee and Auburn who all have one at least one national title in the last 40 years. Now compare that to the B10 currently. They only have Michigan, OSU, Penn State, Washington and USC. What teams out there right now, not in the B10 or SEC provide that? Its only Notre Dame, Miami, Clemson and FSU. 1# is Notre Dame 2# Miami and FSU 3# Clemson! The tv partners want national tv weekly matchups!

And ND

On the sec level? The Big10 makes 400 million a year more right now.

@@emc_squar3479He’s talking about winning Championships, not money obviously

@@hillbillysceptic1982 😅

Leave to go where?

Absolutely

How does anyone listen to that buffoon? He's nothing but a cartoon mascot for the SEC.

Guy with the worst takes who is never held accountable. I boycotted for a while. Would change off of espn whenever he is on. He seems to actually know very little about the sport. His claim to fame is being the Jerry springer of Alabama/Auburn fans. Don’t listen to a word he says

ESPN owns SEC and he is simply doing as he is told. I stopped watching ESPN a while ago it hurts because I use to wake up to sport center loop. Watching over and over. Finebaum still thinks the Grant of Rights is enforcable until 2036. Can't wait to get outta the ACC which was treated as 2nd fiddle to the SEC for the last two decades. Fear the Spear!

He basically quoted him to disagree with what he said, listen before you start typing.

That stat is now slightly off now that Texas would bump above FSU for top-3 in the SEC, but point still stands. Even in the SEC or B1G, FSU is one of the biggest and most valuable brands. Only a select few programs generate more revenue than FSU without the disparity in conference TV deals.

@@fsu5452 value isn't the issue here. They signed a contract and they HAD the opportunity to join the SEC years ago and denied it. Boohoo.

@@chrishaugh1655 no, that's really not the issue or what's even being discussed on this video. Contracts are broken all the time. How do you think SEC just got Texas and OU? When exactly did FSU have an invite to the SEC? You're just making things up. UF and South Carolina for years made it known that they didn't want FSU and Clemson to join the SEC. It's why they were rumored to be moving to the Big 12 during realignment in the early 2010s.

miami doesn't he have a stadium...irrelevant for 20 years?!

​@@chrishaugh1655I bet u voted for biden

For how long and by how many professionals must it be reported that CLEMSON and FSU are low expansion priorities for the SEC?

All of these ppl bitching and whining about all of this are still watching. And will continue to watch, they just like to grandstand like they know whats best for the sport.

Sec was told to back off, months ago as clem & fsu go through the court system. Good grief, folks. It's been a done deal.

I wish Clemson and FS leave today!

I’m a longtime Gator. I have always felt that FSU and Clemson would fit in well in the SEC- geographically and culturally. Not Miami though. I would rather get rid of some of the more recent SEC teams that don’t belong in the SEC, culturally and geographically, and pickup FSU and Clemson. I mean, Texas, Oklahoma, A&M, and Missouri are all great teams but they don’t belong in the SEC.

I don’t think they are going anywhere if they joined the sec they would be bottom half and if they joined the big ten they would be mid at best they are better off in the ACC they can run the table in a weak conference and get in the 12 team playoff now.

@@collegefootballfan7909 They are hardly better off staying in the ACC unless there are major changes to the Conference. SEC and Big Ten members get 15 to 20 million more than ACC. FSU is falling behind the SEC and Big Ten schools financially. Hence, the major reason why the lawsuit.

Imagine the ridiculous road games. FSU going to Washington or vice-versa. That's 2829 miles one way lol. They gotta practice jet lag drills.

@@jeremiahbird930 with all that money I imagine schools like FSU can afford to own or charter a couple of jets to move their Olympic teams around and not depend on commercial flights. Football teams have used chartered jets for decades.

@@jeremiahbird930 That’s true, but the ACC has also stopped caring about geography. I’m not sure how they currently plan on handling the California teams and SMU

​@@jeremiahbird930WVU and USC

It’s a non-argument. Other than ND, FSU is by far the biggest brand left to realign. FSU is B1G bound. SEC’s claim they don’t want or need FSU is a weak attempt to save face.

Texas oil money?

@@artbagley1406 yep...

SMU is a sleeping powerhouse. If you do your history you'll know that SMU was Texas before Texas. They were the big school paying all kinds of athletes to come to their program. Ever since they received college football's death penalty they haven't been the same. Now that the money is allowed to flow it's about to be a different ballgame for SMU. They have the money and backing of any major power in college football.

I wish the best for SMU and please beat FSU.

academics dont mean anything in this.

@@tomdemay6147Literally nothing, this is about $$$

@@tomdemay6147 they do to the Big-10

The SEC already "had" the state of Texas but that didn't stop them from going after the University of Texas.

@@steveb.2326 sorry to tell you no academics dont mean jack shit for big 10 realignment

I've seen no evidence that FSU was even contacted prior to the B1G inviting RUT (and MARYLAND). The bottom of a conference isn't the benchmark.

I presume that this was intended as satire. An Ohio State vs Florida State matchup would be the national game of the week. FSU would be in the top five of the conference in viewership and revenue generation.

@@505premoto Maybe I wasn't clear in how I wrote it - yes, FSU is bigger than 80% of the B1G. That was my point. Sorry I wasn't clear.

Relax

You sound scared and you should be.

@@jamesb0255 Definitely not scared. Inferior schools trying to join the SEC just so they can be relevant. Relevancy won’t come your way with all the losses you’ll get.

@@jamesb0255sup, JamesB! This the same jamesB, fan of the Jeff Cameron Show? Go noles! Don’t let the trolls get you down.

@@jamesb025563-3

And if the SEC doesn't invite?

That argument isn’t valid anymore. USC is about to play in Pennsylvania lol

As simple as that? The ACC has played in Boston, Syracuse and Pitt for decades. And now the ACC is going to be playing in California. The B1G plays from coast to coast and wants to get into the South. Only the SEC is regional. FSU wants to be a national brand.

It's not as simple as that, though, in the long run, I would prefer SEC to B1G. In the short term though, FSU in the B1G instead of the SEC would be delicious. Finebaum would really spend a lot of time trying to hate on the Noles. For whatever he is worth, which is not much.

@@EbolaStewbecause Finebaum is an SEC network host. Don’t know why he would think about FSU. Some people let the sec live in their heads rent free. Only UNC has the type of resume that the SEC would consider inviting.

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a) FSU and CLEMSON are gone to where? b) The ACC has already preemptively backfilled.

Also fine? The two biggest football brands leave and the conference would be fine?

@@Mr.KyleRichey look at my conference as an example. The 2 biggest schools left and we are going strong

@@tarheel7406 okay I get what you’ve said over and over. Look at my name and picture and quit commenting that same thing lmao it’s annoying

@@brandonh5360 As soon as people quit posting nonsense, I will be thrilled to stop responding with obvious counters.

There is no feasible path to a peer P3. The BIG12 fell further behind when the PAC scattered. Will far even further behind as the ACC depletes out.

FSU would wither on a B1G island, and settling for the #2 in an SEC flagged state is a clear realignment loss. Any B1G interest was likely contingent on securing other schools.

Curious... For how long and by how many professionals reporting will it take for people to accept that CLEMSON and FSU are not higher expansion priorities for the SEC? a) UNC is now near ~100% secured by the SEC. b) ND is not leaving the ACC if "only" those three leave.

Greg Sankey and anyone else saying they don’t want FSU and Clemson are lying, they just won’t admit it until it’s a done deal. No way the SEC passes on them and lets the Big 10 have them when they are 2 huge brands in their geographic footprint, both with major rivalries with existing SEC teams. UNC I could see joining the SEC too, but I think they’ll actually coordinate and negotiate with the Big 10, and could concede UNC to them so that they can have FSU and Clemson. As far as Notre Dame goes, if FSU or anyone else can leave the ACC, so can ND

I think that both P2 conferences want UNC because they would be the biggest moneymaker in the conference by far. Neither Alabama nor Ohio State make for their conferences anywhere near what UNC makes for the ACC. They have the highest viewership in the ACC and would be a playoff contender in any conference. Just look at where they are ranked for the 2024 season.

@@505premoto thats just wrong. UNC is nowhere near the biggest money maker. They do NOT have the highest viewership in the ACC. Thats just a ridiculous comment. UNC is a very good brand that both conferences want, I agree with that, but they are no where near the "biggest" moneymaker. ND, FSU, Clemson, Miami all make ACC more money than UNC

@@tomdemay6147 Gosh, I didn’t know that. 😂

lol what does the money allow FSU to do that they can’t already

For how long and by how many professionals must it be reported that CLEMSON and FSU are low expansion priorities for the SEC?

UNC is currently (and wisely) ~100% to SEC when/if. Why risk the MARYLAND experience?

Curious... For how long and by how many professionals reporting will it take for people to accept that CLEMSON and FSU are not higher expansion priorities for the SEC?

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@@ssippilandelta4365 yeah that's true

If Pate is ignoring the academic factor, one might as well ignore his predictions.

They might just want to money. Could have said same thing about A&M with Texas

75% was the benchmark for ACC expansion

Money talks. If FSU and Clemson add $$ to the league, Florida and SC will be told to sit down and shut up just like A&M.

It doesnt have to be unanimous. A and m wouldve vetoed texas to the sec if that was the case.

Not when your broadcasting partner, ESecPN would rather not have FOX (B1G) have a toehold in Florida.

The BIG12 survived with much heavier depletion and backfill. To where would CLEMSON and FSU go?

Because we aren’t talking about previous years, we are talking about the 2023 season of being discriminated against. This is how it should have gone: 1. Washington 2. Michigan 3. Florida State The 4th and final spot should have been the debate between Georgia, Alabama, or Texas. In no way should an undefeated power 5 conference championship winning team be taken out of the playoffs period. There is no defense against that decision because just imagine if Alabama or Georgia were undefeated and got left out over not 1 but 2 teams with at least 1 loss on their record? I understand Georgia only lost to Alabama in the SEC Championship game but they were not undefeated and that’s why the decision of who was the 4th playoff team should have been between those 3 teams. Florida State should have been #3 and no where in that conversation of #4. This was a blatant sign of favoritism and has even been admitted by some who have said on record “there was no way they were going to have a playoff without a team representing the SEC.” However, they could have still put Alabama or Georgia in 4th and still kept that status quo, so why leave Florida State out? Because Texas is going to the SEC and they didn’t want to piss off a future team of the SEC. I would even argue that there was some back door bargaining going on with money being exchanged. The year that Saban retires and Alabama HAPPENS to find their way into the playoffs in a controversial decision leaving out for the first time EVER an undefeated team? The SEC and the CFP and its partners and affiliates colluded together and paid their way into how they wanted the playoffs to be. It’s discriminatory because in no way would this have happened to an SEC team as it was so clearly demonstrated in 2023.

@@sarahconely1971 It’s amazing how your reply is highlighted. Because we are talking about previous yrs. The ACC has not been discriminated against. Remember Bama vs Clemson every yr for 4-6 yrs in a row!! Sorry that Bama SEC had more clout now than FSU. I remember a time that FSU was the top program in country. And they were #1 regardless if Bama won NC like 90’s 93 to be specific. With CFB being what it had been over yrs. Everything goes in cycles based on perception. But with a 12 team playoff it will even out

@@shilledoutbyfers2445 no we aren’t talking about previous years when it comes to your previous statement “I still don’t understand why FSU thinks they are being discriminated against because they are in the ACC.” That was due to the 2023 season and that’s what I was addressing. You throwing out pointless information about previous years information is redundant. Also last I checked football wasn’t/isn’t supposed to be about “clout” it’s supposed to be who wins the game and an undefeated season is over another team with losses always. The opinion that just because the playoffs are going to a 12 team playoff doesn’t justify the decision made or make it ok and is completely asinine to say.

@@sarahconely1971 Ok I agree with you. However, what is FSU resume last yr, they beat LSU….So did Bama!! I realize they went undefeated. But Bama beat the #1 team in country & FSU struggled to beat who? in the ACC championship? How do u leave Bama out? And better yet, How do u leave Georgia out? Only losing by 3points after winning NC back to back? But the CFP only allows 4 teams. I agree that the weakness of ACC kept FSU out but they would not have won NC. So moving forward, I would rather be in ACC than SEC if I was FSU. Bama has to play a tough ass schedule every yr & they have to finish like 10-2 to get in most yrs. FSU can easily go 10-2 or worse win ACC & it’s a lock. But even at 10-2 it should be a lock!! With Bama schedule 10-2 or 9-3 or 10-3 losing SEC championship would be ?? some yrs!! Because of competition records!! Even if FSU goes 9-3 if they win ACC they are in. And right now FSU is clearly the best program & only Clemson maybe Miami could ever challenge that. In SEC, it’s much more competitive!!

SEC

For how long and by how many professionals must it be reported that CLEMSON and FSU are low expansion priorities for the SEC?

they wont go to 10 game. Like you said 3 is good for non con games. They won't beat themselves up anymore than SEC will.

For how long and by how many professionals must it be reported that CLEMSON and FSU are low expansion priorities for the SEC?

It’s better then a lot of schools in the big 10 and SEC.

Lol, that’s a good one & you may be right whether they like it or not