Everyone one here complaining about the beat try paying attention to the lyrics and listen to the message. The beat or how it was mixed does not matter. The message of having joy in your heart to hear the name of Jesus and speaking the message is what matter. Stop being caught up in the worldly attitudes and hate. Love each other as God loves the church
❤❤❤❤ so true this my walk with my crown of thorns and my Holy Ghost fire on me just smiling jam. Especially since we who know the Way, the truth and the life is. Im tired of arguing with people about our faith. If you know , then you know period. Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. Thank you King Jesus. We are waiting for you to come back. ❤❤
"Such a holy melody and a heavenly sound hearing holy holy holy coming up out of the mouths of the four living creatures by his throne all around" 2023 and this song is still one of the most powerful worship songs til this day. Rap song or not. Such a powerful song with such meaning....when I hear this song everytime it touches something deep inside and renews my awe and utter passion to serve the lord
100%, kinda wish someone would come to church and simply rap this on Sunday morning. Rap can be used for worship too. This song is a perfect example of that
Very well said. I couldn’t agree more. This song always helps me feel Gods presence. Bless you in Jesus mighty name. We are loved. I pray you feel that peace that only Jesus can give us. :)
Ask and ye shall receive! I asked Jesus to show me my pride and dishonesty, and He did. Then I asked Him to remove it. Then when I was able to be for real with myself and Him, I asked Him to show me my sin. Then I asked to wash my sin away with His blood. Then I asked Jesus to show me the fears, doubts and scars I had in my heart. Then I asked Jesus to take it away. I could not do any of this myself, I had to ASK HIM to do it. He did. And then HE ASKED ME to tell others what He did for me.
i love this. we need more of you from God. any of you feeling led to be a part of His glory, God will make a way even if you dont see it. God bless you all. i love this video!!! i love see people giving joy to Him, including the people on stage. God is all over this!!! i can feel the presence of His glory!!! Thank You Jesus!!!!!
I still love this song, eleven years after the first time I heard it. They really threw down in this song. I love how they used so much scripture in it. ❤️✝️🛐💒
new favorite song as well. First heard it while on a mission trip at Oakhill Baptist Church in Evansville Indiana. Pastor Joey Best was playing it in the youth room... Awesome song, beat, and lyrics.
Love how you can worship God with any kind of music. Those that don't understand how God operates: he hears our hearts, not what kind of music we are playing. And those that don't have a personal relationship with Christ will never understand because Jesus says, "The world hates me because it does not know me," and so on and so forth.
I think his music as well as other reach people. I love all kinds of Christian music and it is sad to think that people try to talk down to others. God will hear our praises I don't think in heaven that we will care. God made music to reach those turned off by words. Thanks for standing out Lecrae!
Im a Catholic but im siding with Perry here. They're losing a lawsuit because they allegedly copied only a few notes? Plus i don't have a taste for christian music.
This is a great song to praise the Father Lecrae and Flame have awesome talent its cool how they praise the Lord through rap. This song is on my pregame playlist for football it helps me get focused on his blood and sacrifice and give it my all and rep Christ up
I loved Lecrae then and I love him even more now... he truly embodies what a prophet of God is all about. He loves people, invades culture, Preaches Christ, is mindful of racial reconciliation and uses his giftings in excellence to the Most High Keep going big bro... keep going :)
we do not have the authority to judge. a man's heart is only known by the most high. everyman is born of sin we are not immune to sin that's why we ask for forgiveness every second and hope to meet the most high in heaven. Faith :)
Lecrae I think your a good Christian rapper no matter what all these other people say. I don't know why people assume that every Christian song needs to sound and look the same. I think god has called me to be a Christian rapper too this is why I know that your words are glorifying the kingdom.
Hey guy Katy Perry just got sued by Crae and Flame over this video. Her fans are probably going to be attacking it. Just take the high road and keep supporting 116!
Cardinal Richelieu yeah they're definitely the same you just need to look at the right point in the song. and for why flame waited he may not have heard it until it became popular and then it takes time to contact lawyers and see if you actually have a case....
If anybody have any doubt about christian, gospel, rap or whatever need to give it a rest after listening to this. Giving praise to the most high like the angels flying around his throne and we never seen him. Powerfull. If you cant feel it you need to stop with that CHURCH! mentality and get that Kingdom mentality. All outsiders are welcome.
Similarities include: the syncopated bass drum rhythm, the high pitched staccato eighth notes and the "hey, hey" chant on the upbeat at the start of the chorus. Those are very specific similarities. Those are very distinctive traits of the beat. If you took those things out of Dark Horse, there would be almost no "beat" left. We certainly would have a hard time recognizing a Dark Horse instrumental without those things. And a judge might agree that makes a copyright infringement.
That's not the way the law tests copyright at all, very fortunately. In a recent appeal judgment that went to a jury trial, the jury did determine that the songs are similar, however, in applying the actual law the judge determined that the 8- note sequence in question does not meet the standards to be covered by copyright. It is a simple and common progression and to allow it to be copyrighted would be a slippery slope to having other basic musical building blocks declared creatively off limits. Both are original works. No direct copying occurred. And even though they sound similar, one cannot have ownership of such a small, common, and simple musical progression of notes. Music would die if that happened.
This one of the first Christian Rap songs I jammed back in 2008. There's alot of great Christian Rap now, even back then, it just wasn't as popular/promoted as it is now. Lecrae and Flame broke alot of ground for more artists to get exposure. I know afew that I feel should be more famous than they are, but maybe because of the lack of marketing/promotion they aren't known to the masses/mainstream. Artists like Von Won and Tre9 for example. But as time goes on, with cross pollination of different artist features, I'm sure people will eventually find Von Won, he did have a song with Lecrae on Church Clothes mixtape called Welcome To HTown, but for some reason I guess people didn't think to acknowledge him or check him out beyond that one song to see the rest of his albums.
0:00-0:25 Joyful Noise (original song) 0:25-0:40 Dark Horse (original song) 0:40-0:53 Speeds up tempo from 66 BPM to 76 BPM 0:53-1:07 Takes pitch down one decimal from Db to C 1:07-1:17 Mixes in Joyful Noise 1:17-1:23 Side-by-side, both at 72 BPM 1:23-1:30 Joyful Noise by itself 1:30-1:48 Dark Horse by itself (As told from Rapzilla) I have to admit, "Dark Horse" and "Joyful Noise" do sound similar if you take out all lyrics and you just listen to plain instrumental music. Just a thought.
@@AmyC37217 - Jury may have agreed, but a judge did not. A judge said the 8 notes in question do not meet the required standards to be covered by copyright. It doesn't matter if they're similar. That one small musical phrase isn't considered original enough to be owned.
Mr.Lecrae.Brother I first heard your music in 2011 brother glad to see you giving God glory even now.I know so much of your music and your music is truly anointed.God bless you and flame.Lets go!Flame I know your music time frame the same.Move,Move Move!
Before you comment, take a second to read this: -To all Christians and flame supporters, be respectful and take the high road, katy perry fans are going to be looking to be Internet tough guys. -To people who say this way for publicity. Why would flame be trying to get negative publicity for a song that is 6 years old? Katy Perry's audience is not the type of fan he is trying to attract. -The beats are similar if you go to about 20 seconds into each song and play them you will notice it. Also just because a few quick effects are added doesn't clear them of copyright infringement. Lawyers and experts clearly told them they had the rights to sue before the would go ahead and risk losing this.
I'm not a Katy Perry or Flame fan. However, I have followed these cases and read some of the judgements. A judge recently determined that even though a jury agreed the songs sounded similar, the 8-note sequence in question did not meet the burden to be covered by copyright. It literally doesn't matter if they sound similar because it's basically 8 quarter notes in a common descending minor scale with some notes repeated. You can't copyright scales or common chord progressions. They're the basic building blocks of music. And this is too small and common in origin to meet the standards of uniqueness to warrant protection. If something like this can be copyrighted, music would die.
Yup. The beats are the same. The base in dark house is a bit higher, the pace is a little different, but any DJ could do that with the simplest of mixers. Dark house did take some from this.
Lecrae is awesome, good to see other believers listening to his words! Keep on preaching the word man, and use your gift of music to reach this lost and dying world! Holy is the Lord Jesus Christ!
This beat hits sooo hard I love it. I can imagine maxing out the bass on the EQ and listening to it pound. This just goes to show that not all rap has to be about lusting after women, drugs, and all that trash.
@@eternalrewind2190 „At that time Jesus declared, “I thank you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you have hidden these things from the wise and understanding and revealed them to little children; yes, Father, for such was your gracious will. All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him. Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”“ Matthew 11:25-30 ESV
Victory in Faith but I Failed in my Fears. I heard a lot of words that have tickled many ears that's why I Praise God for the word that we Adhere. Thank God for sending musical messengers. Anybody else besides me ready to make a Joyful Noise for Christ? :)
Katy Perry won yet again in a copyright infringement case over "Dark Horse". The three judges ruled that the authors of the hip-hop song "Joyful Noise" had not provided sufficient evidence against Katy Perry's music.
That's a relief. The world would feel a bit too ridiculous if they could claim her song ripped off this one which sounds nothing like it and win that copywrite claim. Maybe a 5 percent similarity I don't know the right music words to describe, but the melody and lyrics have very clearly not been stolen. It's ironic that the musician I'm listening to sing about God and his faith right now is also trying to be a scammer. There's no way those guys genuinely believe their song was ripped.
@@IronDruids Nothing alike? No one said the lyrics, but the whole thing, especially 1:08, did you listen to the whole song? Actually asking? This song came first and is soooo unique. It was proved stolen in a court of law, but your right, with enough money it seems they stole it back again with an our side had the most money court appeal, but that doesn't make it right. I am just being fair, they did it first, and they did it better. You have to choose not to hear it's a rip off. Didn't you ever think the song Dark Horse sounded unique? You know with all the elements of this song that came first? Or are you saying Katy did a basic song? Or are you picking favorites and not seeking the truth when it comes to being copied?
If she or others with her do feel it's stolen they will have to pay a higher court than the ones it's been through, if you know what I mean. You can't rip off those preaching about light and selflessness and steal it to preach about dark and being an only evil manipulative goddess instead. I can't even believe how much better THIS song is. Who knows, maybe someday Katy will be able to do a cover of it. I with both sides well. These songs have many people working on them, not just Katy, so I am not saying Katy meant to steal it, if it was stolen, the truth is the truth and some people know what it is even if we can't come to agreement even after it's gone to court. Katy used to be a Christian singer, but she couldn't make it till she started singing songs like, "I Kissed a Girl and I Liked It" and her song, "You're so gay." Honestly, I don't think she could make it because she was double minded, a foot in both worlds not sure what to do or how to do it. But I know one thing, don't do what's wrong, if she did, Christian or not, can we agree you repent, say sorry, and right the wrong?
@@SRose-vp6ew I did say the lyrics and melody didn't I? That's a lot of tangent for a mere part of what I said. Read my comment instead of telling me to listen to the song again. It sucked and I don't want to. And besides, I already covered a bit of what you talked about during the only listen and comparison I intend to do so I'd rather forget this one exists. And while I said they sounded nothing alike I also went on to say there was a tiny similarity which I didn't think was enough to call the other stolen. I was exaggerating to express just how different I thought the songs were. Certainly not enough to say they aren't just similar-sounding music at times. How tf are you the one trying to tell me to pay more attention to something? You can't even talk to me like a normal person and you want to criticize how I listen?... FYI if you want a conversation don't leave people feeling like you ignored a lot of what that person said so you can make points against a smaller part of it. Then going ahead and continuing the conversation at the other person who hasn't even had a chance to respond yet. I have zero interest in giving you anything other than my concluding thoughts and ignoring you because I don't trust or believe you would actually take in and consider anything I ever said to you. Even this last part is feeling a bit pointless to type. Seriously. You couldn't have been more rude with that response even if you had packed it full of insults and curses. I'm not going to be your wall to bounce ideas from. Actually try talking to me if you're going to talk to me :/
@@IronDruidsso if you strip the song down layer by layer to its initial floor carrying beat the keys playing the initial melody that dark horse plays at the first intro of the song before it begins that carries THROUGH out the entire song was what was stolen it's the meat and potatoes of the song it's what makes the song it's the make up of the song which was proven to be stolen but they had more money to afford a better defense team just like o. J Simpson getting off for murder because he had the money to afford a great defense team so that doesn't make it right not does the facts change that it was stolen material this has happened for generations and generations. Our music being stolen and rebranded by white artists it happens so often that when the truth comes out it's not even shamelessly denied as if it's just part of the system and never going to change so just have to deal with it it makes me sick 😢 and it's a sad reality to not get credit for the brilliance and creative intellectual minds that are responsible for creating the content for the masses to have the luxury to enjoy we should just shrug it off because its another product of racism and someone getting rich off the back of the colored man ... Or the black culture. She is getting rich off our culture and disrespecting us with her twist on our heritage in her music video. Have you looked at it from that point of view. She is basically doing black face right on front of our faces. Black appropriation dressing as Cleopatra a white woman... Cleopatra was Egyptian that is a darker race than her or Audrey Hepburn making the masses think Cleopatra was fair skinned when she was a black goddess why can't they depict her as she was in her beautifully tanned brown 🤎 skin anyway it is much deeper than you saying we should not be arguing about whose song it belongs to and about who is or isn't listening to whom or offending whoevers opinion of the matter or who likes the song to begin with. It's about allowing the system to get away with racist acts like that which steps on our people and keeps us down whilst she is making money off our ideas.. as a human being you must at least agree that stealing ones cultural ideas and identity and passing it off as your idea is just as wrong as saying Christopher Columbus founded America when there were already people here LMAO
this song is on fire. It's beautiful. People giving God praise and using their gifts to glorify god and share what He has done for them. These guys have such a heart for the Lord. Pray for the guy who made the below comment.
Katy Perry never even heard of this song. Most people haven't heard of it before the lawsuit happened. Flame just wanted money. And this sounds nothing like Dark Horse.
@@omniscent3576 That is your opinion and you're entitled to it, but the jury disagrees with you. Just saying. The similarity in question is in the synth rhythms, not the vocals. The synth rhythm in "Dark Horse" sounds just like the synth rhythm in "Joyful Noise," only slower. But again, that's just the opinion of myself, the jury, Flame, and many of his fans. Music is inherently subjective anyway.
Song goes so hard, Katie Perry had to take the beat and put it in dark horse 😂 (lower octave and slowed down a lot) this song reminds me of the good ole days of listening to Lecrae, Tedashii, KB, Trip Lee and so many more
@@maffieduran I've been playing guitar for 15 years lol Ain't gotta lecture me on it. Don't believe me, just look it up. Flame actually sued her for it. It's all in the records
