My second Joyo PXL Pro programming video- simply because of some frequently asked questions & well, why the hell not?! Joyo PXL Pro- amzn.to/2zmROUT reverb.com/uk/...
Sorry it’s been so many years but a question if I may! If wanting to send just a delay & reverb to the amp’s FX loop, then use the other 6 in front of the amp, would it send all 4 of that block? Ie not what I want since only want to send 2. Would be awesome to know how if possible! Cheers man, and outstanding video.
Yes, unfortunately its either all 8 to the front on amp or split 4/4. The only other way would be use this for the front of the amp and have your two fx loop pedals completely separate.
Glad I found this video. Apparently a bunch of people have questions as do I. My peddle board is pretty massive I've got about 22 on it. I have the PXL8. So, I assume I only option is either pick eight pedals for the looper, or figure out which ones absolutely need to turn on at the same time and just create groups? What are your thoughts on this?
Thanks for the heads up. If I start with a couple pedals that are always on can I just run through those and then start using my channels? Also, I have an EHX silencer, which I only use for my fuzz chain, because I have like four fuzz pedals. What are your thoughts on this?
@@internalmethods I think it all comes down to trial and error. Obviously there's nothing stopping you having 20 pedals in one loop and still switching those pedals on and off like 8 independent pedalboards. Two things with that though.... 1) noise, I use the switcher to remove a lot of noise by obviously having loops deactivated. 2) pedal order, a lotta fuzzes etc like being first and especially don't like boss style buffers. So with multiple fuzzes you need to know what goes where....but with that many pedals on a board you obviously know this.
Hi again. This pedal has been a lifesaver. Your demo has helped loads too so thanks. Any idea the best way to add a noise gate? I have the electro harmonic silencer to cut out the noise from my octave and distortion pedals. Do I add the noise gate into its own separate loop after the noisy pedals? Or add the pedal within the same loop as the distortion for example? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
That's great to hear and glad the video helped. I know initially watching it it probably seems like nonsense but once you have the pedal it all makes sense and second nature. I'd probably put it on the main output. Unless you have a spare loop at the end of the overdrives. Some noise gates will even work on the way in to all the pedals as it obviously works on the fading out guitar signal. Try it before and after the joyo first to save using a bank is my advice. Thanks again.
Having an issue, every time I record a loop on the RC1 and then try to put on another pedal after what I’ve recorded the loop, the pedal that goes on next ,will effect the initial loop that was recorded in the RC1. The RC1 is coming directly out of Loop1 in the joyo. Loop2 is for the effect send/return line so don’t see why it’s doing that. Any help would be appreciated!!!
I'm no expert and haven't tried a looper in the setup at all. So you have the second loop, the second of four loops into the FX loop of the amp? If so like you say, I don't understand why as they should be separated from the first signal path I'd have thought. But again, I'm no expert, just a user of the unit like yourself
Question. In order for this pedal to function properly, does a pedal HAVE to be plugged into it's return? As in, can I run a pedal from loop 1 to a second amp entirely while still being able to play into my first amp that's run out of the total pedal loop? I hope that made sense
Unfortunately yeah, the loop has to be completed. So no, you can't feed an amp from the loops. You can however use the tuner loop to feed another amp. I have video on my channel for that. (has a thumbnail with a thr10 amp)
Thanks mate! Yeah, bizarrely I was only thinking the other day how it's really stood the test of time. I have no complaints about it whatsoever, you won't regret it!
@@marcusdluxe Thanks for the info. Like you I would like a G2 but ..... Cant afford it. In case you see the comment, I Have my rig going to my kemper and I would love the same thing but just midi (controlled with my kemper patch.) Do you know any System that is reasonably affordable with midi ?
@@kreatos10 thanks, glad it's been of some help. They do one of these that is midi, the pxl live. If not the boss units are great from what I've heard, the es5 and es8, but again hike in price.
Hello Marcus. I have all my etc pedals plugged in to the correct in and outs. I don’t go out to an amp. I go directly to a mixer then out to speakers. I am using the guitar in then loop 1 out to my mixer. I am having trouble getting hearing the pedals. But after watching the video I get none of the lights. Is there some way different I should plug in.
I know this is 6 years old already but wiring up my pxl pro and just wondering about pedal order. I’ve placed my distortions and such to the right in loop 1-4. Then my modulations on the next loop 1-4 to the left. Running it all into a clean fender amp. Not sure if I’ve done this right.
If you're not using an effects loop in your amp those two blocks of 4 are really one big block of 8 so you can place where you want. The two blocks of 4 is only relevant when using an effect loop as that second block goes there so you'd only use fx that work in an effect loop - delay, verb, trem and some modulation.
Great video mate! I plan on getting this switcher myself. What board are you using to hold your pedals? And how big is the Joyo itself? Want to build a board but I'm having troubled figuring out what base to get🤔
Tiny Rick thanks buddy. I built the the board myself a while back, just slats of timber. As for the switcher it's about 540mm wide. It is a great unit for the money. Thanks for watching.
Really nice video mate! Just to be sure, I’m thinking about buying one and the only thing I wonder about is , if I have my reverb and delay pedals in the effects loop and loop 2, and they have tail function, does the delay and verb keep on going as they would, when switching presets? Hope my question makes sense. Kind regards, Hampus.
Hi, thanks for watching. This videos very old now and gets more action than any other video it seems. Haha. Alas, if you disengage a loop it's disconnected from the outgoing signal so no trails will continue.
@@marcusdluxe But basically, if you would, you could have the delay activated on all banks but with no effect level on a preset 1, but make sure the midi output changes the midi preset to other channels?
@@IronBay yeah, definitely that's an option. I thought we were talking specifically about this model demoed which wasn't midi compatible. But yeah, that's an option if you have the midi version or if you leave the loop live and use the pedal individually as normal.
I'm man, nice video! Little question here, where would you put a booster in there? Should it go in the chain? And, do you have a noise gate in that pedalboard? Thanks!
Thanks bud! As for positioning its all personal preference. You you could have it in a loop. You could have it before/after the pxl. I don't use a noise personally.
Great video! Any problems when switching banks? Mine sometimes cuts off sound when switching banks. I had to stomp the mute button twice to have sound again. ☹️
What connectors are you using? Would standard flat connectors work? I’m asking because I’ve sometimes had issues with connectors being too big and causing strain on the jacks of pedals / switchers.
Hello!! Thank you very much for this amazing video! I’d like to ask you: is it possible to split the signal into parallel ones like you can do on a boss es-8? I’ve search a lot about this and I am not sure about it. My goal is to have two different signals, one affected with a bigmuff and the second one, a fuZz factory. If I put them into a single chain it sound awful, but if I split it, it may sound amazing. Can you do this with this controller?? Thank you so much!!
Can you do a video where you go over how to connect everything? I'm having a hard time figuring this out. I have 2 amps and about a dozen pedals, some of which go through the preamp and some of which go through the FX loop...
Livingthat Twelvelife what do you use to split the amps? I only use one amp at the moment. I'd happily do a video showing how mines connected but may not be relivant to your setup. I may be getting another head soon- I'd like an a/b/y switch that I could use via the trigger outs!
I use the Fender Micro AB/Y to switch. Any help youcan provide would be great, if nothing else it would be a good starting point and hopefully I can figure out any of the small differences from there.
I have my signal path all set up, I just can't figure out how to get the amp switcher to work and how to plug everything into the loop switcher correctly between the two amps and the fx loop...
Great demo. I've just bought this looper. What patch cables have you used? Also can you add other pedals to the chain without having them going through the loops? Like from guitar into pedal then out of pedal to the joyo looper? Then just switch on the pedal whenever needed? Thanks
WhiteLionParade hi, I made my own patch using neutirk heads & vandamme cable- I use the cheaper neutriks, "reaml(?), and as you can hopefully hear they're not noisy. That way you can make them the correct lengths. Be careful also as I don't think there's room for the pancake type jack as on the joyo they're very close together. And yes- you can add whatever you like before or after the joyo- so as with your question on the other video, something like a compressor, volume pedal, wah would work there.
My question is pretty straight forward. The Joyo PXL Pro has this very interesting 2nd loop that is meant to go in to the FX loop of an amp. Can I exploit this function to run 2 parallel signals? Here's what I'm arriving at - Pedal Loops 1-4 and Pedal Loops 5-8 run parallel to each other much like the A+B Mix mode on the Boss LS-2 if I connect the Loop 2-out and Loop 2-in with a patch cable and, when I don't have a patch cable going from Loop 2-out into Loop 2-in, all the pedals are in series like the A>B mode on the Boss LS-2. Please correct me if I'm wrong? If I'm right about this, the Joyo is what I'll get. If not, the LS-2 will find its way on my pedal board. What I want to achieve is simple. My dry tone running parallel with effect tone out of one output just like the LS-2. Say Pedal Loops 1-4 have my drives and Pedal Loops 5-8 have my delays and reverbs. I activate one loop from Pedal Loops 1-4 with the actual pedal being on and I activate one loop from Pedal Loops 5-8 with the actual pedal turned off. One patch cable is going from Loop 2-out to Loop 2-in. Will I get what I'm looking for?
DanikDarko so you want a wet and an dry signal simultaneously through one amp? When you say loop 2 out/in red you referring to what would be the effect loop In and out? (left side of pedal)
Basically, if you use input 1 & 2, you have turned the switcher into 2 switchers with four loops each. Once you plug into input 2 you will need to use both outputs to get access to the full changes. The high and low sections are synchronized, meaning if you change the bank or number, then all of the loops will shift. Of course you would not have to have any of them on. You can select to only have things on the high section activated and the low section can be left off or visa versa. Or you can run any mixture combination of the two sections. I am using this Joyo Looper to run two sets of pedals into two amps. The pedals are setup and voiced for the amps. I ramp the tone up through steps from clean to distorted over several increments. The way I have it set, one amp is emphasized on the first bank, then the other on the next bank, then on the third bank both amps start at a clean tone and then add a little dirt, then a bit more and then distortion/overdrive. It works great and is more than I could ask for.
So how many individual pedals can I plug into this device? My main use will be turning pedals on and off without having to reach to the far side of my board.
In theory as many as you like I suppose. There's 8 loops which you can have all in to front of amp or 50 50 them front and fx loop. But each of those loops could contain multiple pedals as the unit turns of and on the loops not the pedals within those loops
Hi good sir! Forgive me for asking on such an old video, but I've not been able to find an answer to my question yet. If you had two amps and wanted to run your El Cap in stereo, could you run the left channel into a slot on loop one and your right channel into a slot on loop 2 and accomplish this? You'd basically be running loop 2 to a second amp instead of the effects loop. I do realize one pedal would take up two loops, but I think I could make that work. None of my pedals are midi capable, so if there are any work-arounds there it wouldn't benefit me. Thanks!!
So I have found myself being limited in my writing because i'm only able to tap dance so much at a live show. So i have a really specific question. Am i able to switch my amp channel and multiple pedals all in one press? Or can I only use this for pedals and still have to switch amp channels on a separate footswitch? By the way I have pedals through the front and the effects loop, thank you!
Hi, you'll be pleased to hear the answer is yes! You can switch amp channel as long as your amp uses a standard jack plug. I have over videos on my board that will show this. If your amp has a pedal that switches Reverb & overdrive then that may use a stereo jack into the amp- this is still doable you'd just have to use a stereo jack into the footswitch input of your amp & then spit it in to two mono jacks at the joyo and use two of the four trigger outs. Feel free to ask anything else &/or check out other videos. Thanks
Some Fender amps use a mono type 1/4" plug to control several foot switch functions. They do this by setting up various resistors at each switch in the foot switch and then reading the change in the amp. So, to get that to function as several foot-switches you would have to build a box that would close the circuit in the same way as the Fender foot switch does, (i.e.using resistors of the right value for each 1/4" jack connection) and then running the triggers to that box for translation into the connection that runs to the amp.
Hi, I was wondering if this product can pre programme guitar tones and switch sounds from the same pedal during a song. I use a EHX polychorus and during songs I turn the sweep filter On/Off but have to get on my knees and switch it as fast I can. Im looking for a footswitch alternative, any helps much appreciated ?
Potentially, if the pedal has an auxiliary control to do so. Or if its midi joyo/harley benton do a version with midi. I'm not sure it you'd be able to do it via an expression pedal out? Expression pedals are usually able to one control on a pedal and the sweep of the pedal adjust the turn of that control. So potentially you could have it but of course there's no sweep- so clicking the switch would go from a_b.
I'm having a hard time getting my Joyo D-Seed channel switching to react correctly to trigger sends. I've tried every combo of polarity and momentary that i can think of and it does weird things. For example, let's say I have one preset sending trigger to T1 for the D-seed.... if I have another preset sending T2 to something else, D-seed still switches channels?? and no, that 2nd preset has T1 doing nothing. I cannot figure this out.
Larry Baldwin that does sound like a messed up situation. Have you tried putting it way down in trigger 4? I know my amp channel switch took a little bit of messing about to get working. Have you tried the d-seed in both presets whilst programming the trigger?
hi man, nice video, sorry i ve a question (of course!) it s possible to use all pedals in send return? i ve got chorus, 2 delays, flager, phaser , tremolo and reverb. plus wah and double muff EHX. thanks
Just ordered one of these. .... I have a question. Can you use the two outputs to feed two amps? Does the pedal board send the guitar to the start of each loop separately? I mean if I just plug the guitar into the "IN" on the far right side of the board, will it feed both loops as long as the output jacks for each loop have a 1/4" cable inserted?
I'm not a 100% sure but I't sounds conceivable. Have a tinker when you get it and let me know. The only thing I can thing it that the second loops has a send and return...but you wouldn't want the signal returned I suppose. Haha, I'm not sure.
I use with 2 amps. I use the lower bank for dry effects and the upper bank for wet effects - the split between loops 1 and 2 allows this. You can also run from tuner out to a 3rd amp if you like with no fx! Careful with ground loops and phase
Okay I've ran it several ways now. I am using 3 amps. Two blues jr., one is Billm modified with a Cannibis Rex, and the other is stock with a Greenback. The third amp is a Super Champ X2 with a Greenback in it. 1) Using input 1 for guitar and output 2 to the rotochoir, which creates a stereo channel then into delay and reverb. From there splitting into 2 Blues Juniors. Both amps got the same drive and eq pedals etc., but the roto, delay and reverb were in stereo. Nice thick tone. There were pedals on the two banks that were switchable etc. I also took the output of the tuner to a Super Champ X2 dry. 2) Guitar to ABY switch to input 1 & 2. Running the banks separately but tuned up for the voice of each amp. Took the roto choir out of the equation and run output 1 & 2 into the delay and reverb then to the 2 Blues Jrs. Super Champ is still coming out of the tuner dry. This tone is hands down the most amazing thing that I have played through. It inspires me to imagine better melodic leads etc. I should mention that in both setups I am also going through a Stereo Ditto Looper, which lets me have some fun. Should say I have not had any problems with the Joyo Switcher, but I'm fighting ground loop problems with the Blues Juniors. But that is another story.
I split the path with a mimiq doubler after the first bank - take dry to a pair of dry valve amps (using radial tone bones twin city for phase and isolation) then the wet signal goes from my stereo fx into a pair of wet amps (use more isolation ) - wddw - much fun - only downside is absence of stereo loops but I keep stereo delay and verb outside the switcher
Hey, thanks for this video, very helpful! Im wondering if you may be able to help with something. I've just got mine setup and switched on after a long while of soldering patch cables. The problem I'm having is that my Fuzz (DBA fuzz War) seems to suffer from quite a large volume decrease when running through the looper. Did you experience anything like this when setting yours up? Any help is much appreciated!
Hi, glad the video was of some use. Some fuzzes don't like being in things like loopers, especially like the joyo which is buffers. So, it's either a patch lead, I've suffered the same, spent ages setting stuff up then a fail. So, either a patch lead or it doesn't like the buffers in the switcher. Try firstly different patch leads. Even if you swap from a different loop. If its still the same try the Fuzz before the the switchers input to rule out the buffer. If it's the buffer, company's like Tate fx will sell a "pickup emulator" kind of thing that makes the Fuzz think its guitar straight into pedal. Hope that makes sense. Feel free to ask any questions and let me know how you get on.
@@CSorglos in what sense? If the pedal has a remote out to swap things you could maybe use the trigger outs. Or if it's a pedal with separate outputs for each side you could run them in separate loops. Or you just put it in one loop and control it manually
@@marcusdluxe I mean there are two different ways to use these pedals, actually three: 1. Booster 2. Overdrive 3. both at the same time. But there is only one output. So my question is (and please note I am new with this type of device): is it possible to program the device with one setting (e.g. Overdrive) on - let's say - button A, together with some other effects and another setting with the booster on maybe button B in the same bank? To be more specific: I play Weezer's Buddy Hollie with a solid drive from my amp and at one point have to add a clean booster for a volume boost, the boost of the Rocket Fuel and a phaser. A quite simular situation with Oasis' Champagne Supernove: a light crunch from my amp as a basis and at two points in the song the overdrive from the Rocket Fuel, the clean boost for the volume and an octaver. I'd like to have the three switches that I have to make to come together in one switch. But the Rocket Fuel has two different way to work: Boost and Overdrive. Does it simply work with the programming? Edit-switch on the boost-store in one song and Edit-switch on the Overdrive-store in another song?
@@CSorglos in a nutshell no. To do that the pedal would need a remote way of switching the individual sides on and off or the side be separate and in separate loops (which in that pedals case doesn't sound possible). Basically all the switcher does is turn/off loops and therefore any Pedals active in those loops chosen will effect your signal in a normal pedal way
Just got mine and have it all set up and it’s awesome, but I’m afraid mine is defective because it doesn’t mute the output when I hit MUTE twice (once to go to tuner out, which it does) and two to mute loop 1 and loop 2 out. The red light comes on after I hit the mute switch (not in edit mode) so it seems like it should mute the signal but I can still hear everything. If the mute function doesn’t work on mine is it possible that mine is defective? I love Joyo and have never had any issues with any of their pedals. They’re a great company, I’m just worried that my PXL Pro is defective. Wondering if I should exchange it. Thanks for making this video by the way.
Hi mate, that's a shame. Yeah, sounds like a fault. Like you said- hit mute once and Tuner is active but still signal. Hit second time and its tuner active and silent. That's odd. Hope you get it sorted.
@@marcusdluxe yep I sent it back and another one is on the way. Yeah it says it’s muting the output but it doesn’t, I’m excited to get a working one because I love what this unit will do to my pedalboard setup. Thanks again mate!
@@Crescent_Audio yeah, they're cracking units for the money. I'm now on my second as after about six years I wore mine out. Now have the midi version as I have a boss rv500 to control.
Hi,so I have the Synergy SYN-50 amp and it has 2 module slots and each slot has 2 channels so I have a 4 channel amp foot switch.Can I hook the foot-switch up to this as well so it’s still only 1 click of a button or will I need to do that separately?.Thanks
Can you have different orders of effects with this saved to presets....like just for example in one I have the fuzz coming before the wah followed by delay ...in another preset change the running order so I have wah coming first followed by the fuzz
Can you set any of the channels to run parallel or series? I have a pedal or two that I don't want running through other effect pedals and changing the effect.
This was the older version and wasn't midi compatible. I now have the newer harley benton version that does have midi and I use it to control my boss rv-500. The midi only tells it to change parameters etc so yes, still need audio ins and outs
Great. So i guess the audio in and out go in one of the loops? Right? Am looking at the Harley Benton one myself as well. How do you find it? Thanks a lot for your help.
@@hilaryspiteri yeah. So for example I use the rv500, a reverb, so classicly in pedal order I have it last and so its it "l4" of "loop 2" and I use the midi functionality to swith what preset the rv-500 is on depending on the mood of the patch
Hey man, awesome video but i have a question, i have a marshall valvestate with 4 channels, for my channel switcher it uses a DVI connector, do you have any idea how i can still connect it to this pedal? Thanks in advance :)
Infamous Gamers thanks dude! I'm not 100% sure to be honest, I imagine it's doable, but a case of sussing the lead, if the DVI has a common ground the 4 independent wires for triggers the they could potentially be wired into mono jacks for the trigger outs.
There are two ways basically. 1) build a box that does what your pedal control does internally. However instead of on/off switches for you to step on, you install 1/4" female jacks, then connect those jacks to the Joyo with 1/4" cables. Basically the Joyo steps on the switches for you. 2) modify your existing footswitch, or get another one and modify it. Pull out the switches and replace them with 1/4" female jacks. Connect to the Joyo with 1/4" cables. You should get a schematic and ask someone who understands schematics to advise if replacing the switches with 1/4" jacks will work. Some pedals might have a double switch in place, which would need some kind of relay to make it work. The Fender amps use zener diodes and other components in their foot-switches, to change the voltage in the cable to tell the amp to turn things off and on. This is a good method in that it allows a simple guitar cable to carry messages for several switches, but it is a bad method if you want to try and directly control a lot of the Fender amps with an on / off switch. It won't work. I am not familiar with Marshall switching, but if it is a multi-pin switch, then it might actually be carrying multiple on / off switches, which is easier to convert to something that the Joyo could control. Someone should start a business building translator boxes for these amp switch controllers to talk to these Joyo and similar switches.
Hi, we chatted about the Pro a week or so ago .. I bought one and it arrived today. It worked fine for about an hour but now seems to be frozen with mute, tuner and all the send/return lights stuck on. I can't get anything out of it what ever I plug in or out and its the same if unplug power (from voodoo lap power plus2) ... just seems frozen. am I missing something - can I reset it ... any clues ... it was awesome up till that point!?
Thanks for replying - I think it might be lack of power - I thought my voodoo power would be enough but it doesn’t deliver 500ma per output. Weird that it worked for a bit ... buying a dedicated power supply today .. fingers crossed.@@marcusdluxe
Latch and momentary are the two main type of switching that amps/auxiliary functions use to swap a channel etc. Latch is like flicking a switch, it stays in that position. Of course on a footswitch the switch returns but the signal is continuously saying on or off until you switch again. Momentary is like beeping a horn. You hit the horn, it beeps and the stops. So momentary is like that, some amps just need a polite "on" or "off" to switch. Makes no difference, there's no good or bad. Just some amps use one, some the other. Most basic footswitch channel switching amps will be latch though. Thanks for watching
I must have watched 20 videos on these switching units but not one is very clear about assigning the order of effects. Such as assigning a distortion before or before or after a chorus, etc. This makes a pretty big difference and I'd like to know if it can be done and/or how it can be done. Anyone?
Hi, sorry that isn't clear. It's been a while since I posted the so not sure what's said haha. In short, no. No you can't swap the orders. 1 is in to 2 in to 3 etc.
Can you turn a pedal on and off on a set preset? For example if i made a preset for a lead boost and wanted to engage a wah and turn it off when i please could i do so or would i need a separate preset with a wah on it?
Connor Bowles if I I'm right in understanding the yes. I for example have my fuzz and wah in loop one but the wah is off 90% of the time. As long as loop one is on in the patch I'm playing thru I can then turn off and on the wah as you would normally. The 8 loops are basically just that a loop of cable going through set pedals. If you're playing through an active loop and turn of a pedal in that loop that pedal will simply turn off.
Connor Bowles potentially. My boards different to this now, I'm always swapping stuff about. Check out my "two amp setup" video to see a more recent version.
Thanks! While I got you, is there a manual mode on the joyo where you could set it to alter pedals in your chain on the fly or even say, add a delay at whim to an existing patch?
lynyrddeville to an extent you can in program mode but not as easy as you have to jump up and down through the edit hi/lo banks. The other option is to have a program a patch where all the pedals are on and use the pedals as normal on that one patch. I do this to an extent on a couple of patches- leaving the reverb and tremolo loops on (newer pedalboard layout than this) and just switch them on as and when.
