JOYSTICKS COMPARED - VKB vs Logitech X52 Pro vs X56 

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Nah he's chillin.

Yeah it's kinda cringe

I think it would be cool if he leaned into the theme more, using more futuristic terminology cyberpunk styled reviews but yeah just normal reviews with the distortion are a bit weird. More thematic would be cool

I have zero regrets with mine!

Much appreciated! Glad you are enjoying the VKBs!

@@GipsyRonin hi mate I got the gladiator THQ throttle. What do you use the pedals for in ship control

@@boris-kraken8185 for ME? My controls are not exactly normal for flight I imagine LOL! That said...I have throttle Forward and Backward on them. So it for me works like driving a car. So my reverse thrust can act as a brake lol.

@@GipsyRonin yea ta mate seeing I use a throttle. I was thinking boost and brake

I keep hearing about these deadzone issues. Is this with the Saitek versions or the updated Logitech ones?

@@zapman6528 I had small DZ on the x56 but on this type of resistive joystick (like the T10k), they tend to grow over time. It is more a technology problem than a factoring problem.

Earlier video and I’m 100% in agreement and been dialing back and plan on doing it even more so.

Forgive my ignorance but what is a clutch with relation to joysticks/gimbals. I have ap feeling its something mostly self-explanatory, but I cant say Ive ever heard of a clutch on joystick? Thanks for helping me understand!

​@@Whoadayson So you have two forces against your hand when it comes to joystick gimbals, resistance and damping. Resistance can be seen and felt when you feel the resistance of the stick against your hand, and the stick returns to center. Damping can be felt, and it really improves the feel of the stick, but it can be seen by taking a stick and pushing it to max deflection and let it return to center. Sticks with smooth movement but not damping will flop a little in the middle. Sticks that have good damping will smoothly return to center. I Demonstrate this on my channel in my VKB Gladiator NXT review, and my VKB Gunfighter MK.III review.

@@FalconsLedge Hi Falcon, i m happy with my nxt vkb, i think upgrade one day. i think MK3 base or virpil base warbrd( cause alpha constellation seems very good stick) What the difference between this 2 bases, its a little same thing, or huge difference quality? the problem for me with vkb is the stick, after scg, upgrade is mcg with twist and its very expensive and very big stick( i play 70% time space sim an 30% aircraft sim like dcs etc...

@@Olivier.Colonna-Comedien if you are looking at the WarBrd and not the new t50-CM3 base, the gunfighter mk III is a better base. The quality is more or less the same. The big difference is features. The Gunfighter had dampers, and to me that's a big deal. Dampers improve accuracy and feel. The T50 cm3 is an equal, or maybe even a better base than the Gunfighter, but it's also not expensive. I like the scg grip, I'm sure I would like the alpha too, but the Virpil solution is quite a bit more expensive. Maybe that may change if you are in Europe through shipping costs? In the US, imo the scg/gunfighter is a better bang for your buck. Don't let that seem like an insult to the Virpil gear, because it's not. You won't be unhappy going either direction.

@@FalconsLedge Oh thanks for all this details. I have NXt since 2 years ( after see your video about it). So i live in europe, yes it was warbird base in my mind, cause less expensive than VKB MK3.( 315 euros with shipping cost) and Warbird 269 with sim cam extension.( with taxe and shipping cost). . After its the stick, ALpha or alpha prime seems great for space sim and aircraft too. Better quality that SCG ( who are nice too). 215 euros for alpha and 299 for metal version and best hat chinese. Do you know if MCG ultimate are good too with space sim and his dimension ( always twist option with stick for me).I m afraid is very very lonnng stick, i don t find dimension on vkb plateform. But If i buy in first time only Base MK3, it was a big improvement for SCG ( and more easy for budget)? total vkb MK3 with MCG ultimate 660 euros with shipping cost. Virpil warbird with Alpha and sim cam 449 euros with shipping cost, and 545 euros for alpha prime (metal stick). Sorry for my very bad langage, i m not english ^^. ( what dumper?) I love the soft come back to the center with NXT, in the center its stop a little.

You will enjoy the Gladiator, I'm literally waiting for others like Virpil to make a competitor as the bang for the buck is huge. Thank you for the Sub!

I'll be honest its been a while. As far as software. I believe it was the zbootloader, TLink, wizzo, and the VKB config. all 3 are plugged into their own USB port? I do know I missed that in game I had to scroll down in the settings for a HOTAS. So for me it shows as Keyboard, Mouse, Joy, Joy 1, and Joy 2. For me Joy 1 is the Rudder. so make sure you scroll down in any options when selecting between Joy and Joy (1), there should be a Joy (2). Then set the appropriate input to Movement Forward/Backward.

I made a folder, I took screenshots of what I have for my install and included my HOSAS config, NOTE! I have a NXT, TRudder and a Gunfighter, so my profile WILL be different due to the gunfighter. I would imagine just changing the name would handle that from gunfighter to whatever the NXT is as the stick itself is the same. Also know my config may seriously suck but if it gets you moving, then you can adjust, I admit my configs are all over as I had to remake them and I just wanted the basics in. drive.google.com/drive/folders/1YltupcZ_5yMjMyxg8helhQcENilD8CdW?usp=sharing

@@GipsyRonin Thanks brotha

pretty much the reason why I went x52 Pro, cheaper and more available, might upgrade to the Warbird eventually but would have lked to start out on that stick.

@@halfminutehero99 just got into flight sims and wanting to buy the vkb but ended up going for the x56 heard plenty of issues but I’ll see how it goes

@@leknvisuals How is the x56 5 month later?

@@leknvisualshow did it go?

​@@hexpert6043 no issues still to this day but hardly use it as I play more of my racing sim

Of the bunch, its the one I would recommend the most for price to performance. Again I recommend the Premium edition for the added front trigger.

The VKB Gladiator are discontinued models ... in the future there will only be the NXT's and they are far better than the old ones with the NXT you get a complete "tuning set", even with the standard stick you can change the spring strength

@@axelk4921 Sounds like VKB is doubling down to fully dominate the market then, I can't wait to see the new setup!

@@GipsyRonin I looked at the modules unfortunately there will be no throttle, only the handles can be plugged together, I'm disappointed that there are "ONLY" 2 modules ... what annoys me is that the upside down modules are the same but more expensive than the side modules you can see it in the video from vkb -> ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oOTJmeYFU8s.html

As a former user of the X52 (no Pro), I am using a VKB Gladiator K Premium and I highly recommend this, well, not exactily this because it was in the market for a few months only, but its successor, the VKB NXT.

For ME the x56 was so many buttons. If you feel you only need a few more. May I suggest trying “Voice Attack”? You can get voice commands and can add some fun with audio replies designed for Star Citizen. Example: You say “Landing gear.” And it presses the hot key needed to retract gears. Power to shields Flight ready Power to engines 3rd person view Spoil quantum Engage quantum Etc. That helped offset many commands for the x52 and I didn’t need to remember more buttons as well as keep hands on primary controls.

@@GipsyRonin I do have voice attack but when I play with my org I don't want to bother them with all my discord chatt lol I was thinking of just picking up or making a small button box to make up for the missing buttons.

What you have described is pretty much on point with what I hear of the Virpils, hopefully one day I can try them out as I am so curious myself.

Also .. getting removable mounts helps with the base not having weight while also not making holes in your desk