JRE: "The HORRORS Of War" 

Have you tried to spread this message in Russia?

@@anti-emo4721 no because they are either too dumb or a bunch of hypocrites that don't realize that promoting peace in a time where the aggressor is keen on war and not backing down is siding with the aggressor, these are the same people that would victim blame someone who fought back against their aggressor because in their child brains all violence is bad and unjustified.

Since you dickheads like to quote GO so much here have another one. "Pacifism is objectively pro-Fascist. This is elementary common sense. If you hamper the war effort of one side you automatically help that of the other. Nor is there any real way of remaining outside such a war as the present one. In practice, ‘he that is not with me is against me’." -George Orwell

Exactly. No way Joe Biden’s , Kamala Harris or any senator or Congressman’s kid will go fight in a war

like `sanity and peace prevail` will stop putin anymore then it did any cynical leader through history. you lot are living in lalaland

He went to Westpoint to play football, thats one of the hardest schools to get into...even for athletics, you have to be very smart to get accepted.

And he humbly admits when he knows nothing

He doesn’t sound like it.

@@a.j.infowars7582 he is smarter than you peasant

dudes a history buff, listen to his podcast with matt.

Irak is nothing compared to Ukraine

​@@newjones1754 i agree, 2 tours in Afghanistan here, infantry by trade, its wasn't fun, the taliban had an advantage of blending in and really believing in thier fight, but man its not the same as fighting a massive equipped, uniformed military head 2 head.

​@@newjones1754 were you there? If you weren't, then how do you know?🤔

War will always be the same, the size, the scale, the people, but the boots on the ground feel the same underneath you. The kick feels the same and it doesn’t leave you.

Cops see it all the time.

Yeah i bEEN saying for decades, back then like 1924.......u could trick young men to go off to fight, they didn't see sht like us on YT and TV....kinda good in a way.... Maybe we are meant to fight for thousands of years and then 1 day tech gets really good and starts a shift.... Right around Vietnam war even after ww2 ppl started to wake up a bit.... Launch all our nukes into space You gotta problem with someone? Fight it out on a field....... Man to Man, no weapons.... Not tough or big enough? Don't start a fight.... Ahhhhh BUT there lies the problem. BETA males not strong enough to fight. Look at Oppenheimer and entsein they were frail weak men..... So..... What do we do? Kill all the Betas..... Your welcome. Good night folks. Take Care.

It’s all over reddit right now and reddit is filled with liberals, they don’t care.

I was born on air base in Germany during cold war post Falklands. Before my first birthday, WW3 almost kicked off with Russia, the IRA tried to murder me and my dad n his buddies, bombs left at petrol stations etc.. for years my dad checked for shoe boxes under his car! Then aged 6 it was the gulf war, then Africa and Serbia etc mid to late ,90s. Then 9/11 plus 20 year of illegal war now Russian conflict and IRA are back! I've never known life without war, conflict, death etc it's odd the same people tried kill me as a baby now are back too! I don't think I will ever see a whole decade of peace in my life. The fear of maybe soon becoming a war refugee myself as a British citizen because Russian escalation is scary. Sad times. We was supposed to have learnt from our mistakes in the past. 2 world wars 2 nuclear bombs and still we can't get our shit together and live in peace!

@@musicallyfedmonkeyl think it’s incredibly arrogant for any of us to assume because it’s the 21st century we can “get past” war and learn from our mistakes. With advancements in technology and science we ignore the fact we’re wrong ALOT. The “science” today will be different tomorrow. We can’t even agree how many genders there are and think we can get over something as ancient as war as if it’s not been going on since the dawn of time? As if prior civilizations haven’t thought the same way… The ironic truth is the further we advance the dumber and more arrogant we become.

@@jd-rm4ez It made people realise what war is like more than anything other than the real thing instead of seeing films where little kids wanted to be a hero not realising what it’s really like and is there any need to swear getting your point across

Jeez

@ Shmuel Greenberg - No.

@ Shmuel Greenberg - I was on the USS Fort McHenry. We were stationed in Sasebo Japan. We were forward deployed which meant if they needed us for anything we were to deploy. We’d pick up Marines in Okinawa and then drop them off in Indonesia or Mindinow, Philippines. We were trying to break up any terrorist activities in that area. War on Terror. This was 2003 to 2005.

​@@sstaners1234 are you from Springfield? I live like an hour south of there in Cassville.

@Dakota Lowe - my parents lived in northern Arkansas just outside of Branson and I was going to see them.

Maaan them videos was next level.... raw and unfiltered isn't the words either... saw a building get blown up overseas on that... sounds screams and all...

Watched a man get boiled alive in Afghanistan or Iraq horrible stuff but a great website for the truth of things

What’s the new liveleak?

​@Raz Perignon their isn't one. Generation z is to much of a baby for them to have a website like liveleak. Thank the woke PC crowd for censoring your vision of the world. I've watched the videos, but it's on a website that isn't friendly to "normies".

​@@RazPerignonreddit

What’s the link to what he’s referencing?

Spot on.

You mean the people of russia and ukraine? Not being sarcastic, im actually clarifying what you mean

@@buttsauce123i think he means us as in the US, we’re not really ‘involved’ beyond facilitating the deaths of Russian soldiers, and that can be taken however anyone wishes, doesn’t change that they’re dead by American made weaponry

@@buttsauce123 that's what I took it to mean, any civilians regardless of side.

Horrific shit. It all looks like it's a fuckin paintball match. They're killing each other strangely casually.

Isn’t it odd how that happened and it became the first war we didn’t support?

I too played CoD

"Thats some wet azz puzzy" -Albert Einstein

Lmao Wittgenstein proved many times that Bertrand was lowkey silly tho

Wow so profound did you come up with that yourself?

@@HewManatee wittgenstein proved many times that wittgenstein was lowkey silly tho

I think it's more of a 'what can you do, but talk about it?' Who can possibly know the answer? It's a strange, out of control world, and we're all made to feel individually insignificant and individually egotistical.

It's called turning the other cheek. If you keep sending resources to a war you keep feeding the horror machine. The solution is to end it asap, any results will be negative anyways

You say that however were you this outraged with the bombing of the Donbas region? Probably not because it wasnt reported as much. Or the outrage when we prop up puppets in regions through violent coups?

@Varrus IronFist what bombing of the donbas? Are you talking about ukraine defending themselves against russian soldiers and Russian sepretist?

@@DomAtaGlance yes I'm sure the civilian casualties were just "colateral damage" seems an excuse only us westerners are allowed right?

@Varrus IronFist I mean, I wouldn't refer to them as that. I would refer to most of them as absolute fucking tragedies. Which is why I support ukraine. I don't care how badly a sepretist wants to be a part of Russia. I don't care how many years ago territory belonged to Russia. I don't care if you have to learn ukranian in school. The day you put on a mask, sling a rifle over your shoulder and conspire with a foreign government, to take over an area, using force, you are now officially a terrorist. The country you have attempted to takeover has every right In the world to use their military to unalive you. Kiev did the right thing. They declared the donbas region a war zone and ordered all civilians to evacuate the region untill the sepretist militias could be destroyed or arrested. Every civilians that lost their lives is a tragedy. One who's blood is on the hands of the sepretist.

@@varrusironfist4335 Im sure youre from the west Ivan

exactly

Fatty doesnt now what to do u see ... Im amazed from this guy .

Go back and read history for yourself and don't rely on media.

@@37HD grow a backbone

And by this logic aggression ought to be met with with no response. It’s the funniest joke I’ve heard on jre in a long time.

black lives matter

That's so stupid. Hell is worse. The dead see the end of war but Hell exists in both life and death.

Just like the Crimean war in the 1850s has the reputation for the first war to be widely photographed, it is very comparable

There were lots of camera men killed in Vietnam while filming footage for news stations back home. This (might) be the best recorded conflict only because it’s the most recent, but genuine war has been recorded for a long while.

That was Vietnam.

haha is that a Jordan Peterson reference? Peterson has brain-dead takes on the Russo-Ukranian war too.

Most people who flippantly dismiss Chamberlain as a loser who let Hitler gain power fail to notice that Churchill kept him around in his cabinet until his death, and maintained a close working friendship with him throughout. Chamberlain's was the dominant view in most of British politics for most of the pre-war years. Reading Churchill's memoir/history "The Gathering Storm" really shows Chamberlain in a sympathetic light, and if you aren't gonna take Churchill's word on it in this context whose can you?

@@jon4139 they were all self serving scumbags, the brits and the french.. they did to the rest of the world what hitler did in europe. and the amusing part is their perspective is backed by official history even now. hitler is the bad guy and we are the good guys

Chamberlain was a naive fool. By allowing Hitler to go for Chechoslovakia he handed him over the industrial capacity of a highly industrialised and advanced country. Without the Czech Weapons, especially tanks (the Pz. 35(t) and 38(t) the Blitzkrieg in Poland and France wouldn't have been possible. Not to mention that thousands of Chechs died during the occupation. Chamberlains only success was the strenghtening of the 3rd Reichs capabilitys and to encourage Hitler to go for it. Ultimately the apeasement lead to WW2 with especially Czechoslovakia beeing the last industrial stronghold at the end of WW2.

rogan clearly never heard of chamberlain which is pretty crazy

$$$ more $$$$ more $$$$$$ , our defense industry is salivating over this Ukraine war, the profits they're making, and we don't even have to actually go and fight ourselves, we can just reap the profits. Our gov is giving billions to these defence contractors to send OLD outdated weapon systems to Ukraine, weapon systems they considered garbage, they are now being paid to give them to Ukraine. They love it

Gay

@@johnford9070 it's a Jimi Hendrix quote so. If that's how you feel tho. It's all good.

@@johnford9070 funny response 😂 but it’s a great quote.

But there will always be those who love power more than the power of love. In this case, it's Putin and his regime. It's all fine and well to make generic overtures to peace love & understanding, but a sovereign nation has a right to itself. And it has the right to defend itself as well. There will always be war and conflict. It's wrong to think the solution is we should all just eradicate our own ability to defend ourselves.

I had issues with finding it on my feed as well. Try typing it in your search bar with Shane’s name or the episode number which is #1957 cheers

I listened to it this morning at 6 am (in Ireland, on Spotify (obvs) no problems at all) but you're not the first person I've seen saying this.. It's actually a really good episode.

@@damotheman4196 i had troubles here in Nova Scotia with it but worked in the end. It was a good, Shane has become one of my favourite guests super funny guy and really cool to hear him talk history

“WW2 had good guys and bad guys, but Russia and Ukraine doesn’t”

​@@Phantomwaxx admitted he didn't know, but kept talking anyway.

haha he realized he was in the middle of spouting a brain-dead shit-take about this war. I think Rogan should have pushed back a little more... but maybe that's actually his opinion, too. It's surprising how many people think all of this is Ukraine's fault because they won't simply let Russia take over their country.

So, never? Humans have never been good at fighting what comes naturally to them.

Many wars are not fought over power, and violence is part of human behavior. War will never end, as resources/territory will always be limited. Cultures will continue to develop separately from each other, which will lead to ideological, moral, and ethical differences. Violence is essential to nature. War is a part of that, whether its a war between 3 people or 3 million, it wont stop. Even if our basic necessities are met, we would kill over ideology and religion.. Power isnt really a factor in my opinion. even if one group overpowered every other and every single human was united under a one world government or authority, can you imagine the despair that would cause. We simply have to accept that violence will occur, we can only diminish the impacts. At the end of the day, even the calmest most kind hearted human will kill someone for food when they have not eaten in days or weeks.

I cannot fathom how there are so many people who think this is all Ukraine's fault simply because they won't allow Russia to take over their country. As a result, one thing I DO fathom is why a lot of historical wars occurred and why they let things get to that point. There are people who I know are good, deep down, but are woefully naive and think ending a war over their very sovereignty "at any cost" is the best approach in the long-run-- not only for themselves, but for the rest of the free world.

@@twally87 I believe it, my first comment was mainly the standing-up to a bully aspect. Now, I don't pretend to know the ends and outs of the Ukraine vs Russia war or anything. As an American, who's probably a bit more on the "hawkish" side the older I get anyways:) Understand why Ukraine is standing up and not just giving things away, but I also get Russias point of view on the whole thing. I saw a good video here on YT a while back explaining everything, which goes back to NATO and Russia/Allies promised not to tread too far West as long as the USA/Allies did'nt tread too far East, and like it or not, the USA did tread closer than initially promised. I mean, maybe the US and its military international thinkers thought we needed too, but I at least know how one of our Presidents would react if Russia struck a deal with Mexico and/or Cuba again or something. I honestly don't know the answer, just now trying to comprehend all sides view of it though. Crazy world:)

@@geico1975 the argument that the USA & NATO 'promised not to encroach further East' shows how little many of us know about what NATO even *is*. NATO is a d e f e n s i v e p a c t. The only reason anyone would be afraid of a sovereign country joining NATO is if they planned on invading that country, taking their land and resources. Which Putin has obviously planned this whole time and, for anyone who possesses a set of eyes, has acted upon. This is a standard play out of the Putin (USSR restorationist) playbook: he planned on invading Ukraine and taking their land from them. And now he is doing it. He planned on invading Georgia and taking Georgia from the Georgians (now he has). He planned on invading Moldova and taking Moldova from the Moldovans (now he has). He planned on invading Armenia and Azerbijan and taking those countries from the Armenians and Azerbijanis (now he has). People bring up this absurd idea that the US would invade Mexico if it joined a defensive pact with China. It wouldn't. The US acknowledges Mexico is a sovereign country with a right to associate with whomever it wants. If the US didn't respect Mexico's sovereignty it would have invaded long ago to stop up the border issues we're having with them. The reality is Mexico doesn't want to associate with countries like China or Russia because it too believes in sovereignty of nations so its morals align with the US. It's not because the US coerces them. It's because they know who a better partner and ally is in reality. Why do you think Russia and China have no real allies?

Keith Woods: "russian" oligarchs. Igor Kolomoisky. Great russian famine, Holodomor, Famine in Khazakhstan, Lazar Kaganovich, Genrikh Yagoda, Aron Solts, Filipp Goloshchyokin, Yakov Yurovsky, Lazar Kogan, Matvei Berman, Naftaly Frenkel, Salomon Morel, Helena Brus. Balfour Declaration 1917 November Revolution 1918 Germany loses WW1 1918 Spartacist uprising 1919 You must understand. The leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia were not Russians. They hated Russians. They hated Christians. Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and slaughtered millions of Russians without a shred of human remorse. The October Revolution was not what you call in America the "Russian Revolution." It was an invasion and conquest over the Russian people. More of my countrymen suffered horrific crimes at their bloodstained hands than any people or nation ever suffered in the entirety of human history. It cannot be understated. Bolshevism was the greatest human slaughter of all time. The fact that most of the world is ignorant of this reality is proof that the global media itself is in the hands of the perpetrators." Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

@@geico1975 I hear you, but personally I don’t believe the Russian POV about “needing” to invade and take over Ukraine because of “Western expansion” eastward. For one thing, to legitimize that POV means to equate the spread of Western democracy with the spread of despotic totalitarianism. As if there were no difference between, for example, a country like France being your neighbor and a country like China being your neighbor in the 21st century-there clearly is. The neighbors of France have very little to worry about in terms of aggression while the neighbors of China-Taiwan, for example-have quite a lot to worry about. So I simply don’t concede this idea that Western democracy spreading eastward is somehow equivalent to Russian despotism spreading westward. The history of warfare is full of such examples where a brutal, unjustified aggressor uses false equivalencies to try to justify their actions.

How can the post that stuff on Facebook but when I share a meme about the c0vid💉my account gets banned

​@@gundam116 because war is real and your vaccine conspiracies aren't

I agree, up until the “being good is harder than being bad” part. Being bad is hard as well, try it out and go steal a car, it seems easy but it’s scary (because it’s illegal) that’s why most people don’t do it.

@@mauricephillips4353 it's hard only if you get caught. 😁

But you also want to win it as soon as possible, and your strategies should be geared to that end.

@@jon4139Yeah but doesn’t that kind of go without saying? If Ukraine had a button they could press right now to end the war and achieve victory, does anyone seriously doubt they would press it? Or that the US would, if they had such a button?

100%. Very good observations. For additional context, aside from the horrible method of execution and the huge ethical problems that come with extrajudicial executions by a private corporation, Wagner’s sledgehammer execution was a Russian prisoner who signed up to serve in exchange for a pardon of his sentence. He surrendered to Ukraine and Wagner considered that to be treason. Still terrible, but they weren’t executing Ukrainians like this in the video. Second, the video of the Russian soldier coming up on the foxhole with 2 Ukrainian soldiers in it, IIRC the Russians had flanked their position so they didn’t expect an enemy coming from behind them. From what I understand, the Ukrainians in the foxhole were native Russian-speakers (as many Ukrainians are), and thought the Russian coming from behind them was a soldier on their own side. In the confusion, they didn’t drop their weapons and were shot as a result. Russia has done some terrible shit in this war, but I wouldn’t have considered that an execution. More like something that happens regularly in the fog of war.

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​@@darklord220why would a bot acknowledge wagner committing such acts

Chamberlain wasn’t in the club . Churchill traded the empire for a 20 sac of percs

@@reichbunny713 I'm more inclined to believe it was the Labor Party that got voted in after Churchill who actually wanted to throw the empire in the bin.

yeah I don't get Joe's rhetoric on "we should stop this war" - meaning: "let the russians do their thing fast and get over it". Ukraine should get as much weapons as possible - that is how you stop the war, by defeating or deterring the bully.

@@Paciffic unfortunately so few people are actually getting this, even those who I would consider as smart and open minded people. War is a horrible thing, and it should be stopped. And it should be done by stopping the aggressor side, the side that started the war.

@@sashatkachuk6796 So destroy the CIA then?

historically that’s exactly what happens. whenever a country invades another country with the same ethnic people no one does anything about it

Link?

@@gundam116 I remember it was a short I think can't remember the name of the uploader I think if you try searching for it you can find it. It's pretty messed up to witness soldiers there one minute and gone the next from a tank round. It was when the invasion just kicked off and their tanks are very similar and that's when they couldn't really distinguish each other on the battlefield and they started wearing arm bands because of friendly fire and stuff.

@@gundam116 Ukrainian tank friendly fire I think it is. I didn't know it was friendly fire or not there's some debate on if it was or not. Tragedy anyway you look at it tho brutal. War is hell

@@ninjanunch2769 Don't help that psychopath trying to live vicariously through suffering and blood. He's doing this shit in all the comments.

Interesting. Where was this?

@@derrickmcadoo3804 in Greater London. You can see copies of the leaflets online if you're interested, they still exist.

relax dude

World at War portrayed war exactly how it is. Brutal, immoral, and terrifying,

@@HumpingEwok yeah. yeah that was it. I was just bad at the game. thanks for that intelligible response

by that logic survival games like the forest or ark are immoral because people actually went through scenarios where they had to survive in the middle of nowhere but castaway and the revenant are okay because they’re movies. Gtfo of here they’re both heavily dramatized and they’re both consumed as entertainment.

Appreciate your respect for the troops. That being said, your comment is a little silly. It's not that serious.

Israel is more a thing supported by both parties. Mostly because the whole anti-Semitism vs. support for Palestine thing is really making the left eat itself. And despite how we don't need to be throwing money at anyone to fund any wars, Israel at least has the excuse of having a history of heavy alliance with us. We never have (or in the big guy's case, shouldn't have had) anything to do with Ukraine, suddenly they ate our billions. They're both objectionable expenditures, for different but equally regrettable reasons.

⁠@@OckhamAsylumAid to Israel because of “historic alliances” but then saying we should sit by and watch Russia gobble up europe like we have no alliances with europe

Yea dude those vids are brutal saw one where it injured a Russian and he finished himself off.

lets take the assumption he doesnt know or care to figure out which side it was. Regardless its terrible. Why does it matter who?

@@flarpsgaming lets say i steal your identity and your property. Stealing is wrong. Then i as the thief say who cares who did what.

Where can I watch it

@@gundam116 Netflix

@@flarpsgaming Later, Russians sent that sledgehammer to the EU Parliament soaked in blood! But yeah, yeah, yeah, who cares who did what! You are insane!

Technically it was NATO. Do some research pal it gets deeper. Ukraine also forcefully conscripts men off the streets. Going to their homes and taking able bodied men at gun point. Who’s really the war criminal here?

So true

Being the aggressor in a war is a demonic action, defending yourself from an aggressor is your duty.

Who decides which is the aggressor and defender, the one with more power to manipulate and obscure for their own agenda, it's ignorant and foolish to think that just a few of the pieces make the whole puzzle and the powers that be are so good at telling us what to want to be shown that we'll never get to see anything

I've seen their take in a lot of conversations and sometimes I wonder if conservatives are self-conscious about the dubious perception that historically they are "war hawks", and are always trying to compensate by being so aggressively anti-war that their answer to any country invading another is the victim should either lay down their weapons and let the invader whatever they please, or be victim-blamed for "perpetuating the conflict".

He hit those zelensky goons up viciously with that AK 😮

Pretty sure that’s a war crime

There’s no rules when it comes to war… that’s just comfort talk from the corrupt politicians and rich not wanting to do the dirty work themselves. Why get blood on your hands when you can brainwash the people to fight your war? That ruski judging from his actions was in a high stress situation and the soldier on the left made a quick sudden move which in turn led to him opening up. I’m not saying what he did was right but both parties are in the shit and that means tearing your soul apart doing unspeakable things just to live another day. I doubt that Russian soldier “feels good” about his actions and he’s probably replaying that in his head when the bombs aren’t dropping and the bullets aren’t snapping and whizzing. That is if he’s not dead yet… My point is… war is hell and it’s easy to develop a hate for some Russian man who we will never know about. It’s the media trying to form an opinion for you… it’s the Russian gov that is to hate not the ordinary people caught up in this mess.

Everything about the Russian incursion into Ukraine is criminal.

@@wolfring7081 yes 100% it is.

Exactly. The idiocy to call Chamberlain a hero is just stunning...

@@jorgsobota2228he didn’t call him a hero. He said and I quote “that’s why I kind of sympathize with chamberlain a bit” not even close to hailing him as a hero🤣🤣🤣

what nonsense are you talking about, blaming chamberlain for pearl harbout hahaha

@@ronocccI’m so glad someone else called this out. Such a stretch he pulled a muscle.

I think I see some bias in your world views there Mr.Lysak.

Fart smella

generally, yes. This is not an example of his intelligence though. Kind of knocks him down a few levels, tbh.