Judo for Jiu Jitsu - Jimmy Pedro - Osoto-Gari - BJJ Weekly  

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu - Basically Just Judo Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu looks just like Judo, because it is Basically Just Judo. When Mitsuyo Maeda, a.k.a. "Conde Koma", began teaching Carlos Gracie in Belem do Para, Brazil in 1917, he was teaching Jigoro Kano's Jiu-Jitsu direct from the Kodokan in Japan. The name "Judo" was not popularized until 1925. Mitsuyo Maeda was a Kodokan Judo instructor whose specialty was ground fighting (newaza). This type of ground-only fighting is often referred to as Kosen Judo, or High School Judo, because it was popularized in Japanese High Schools as a form of interscholastic wrestling. Kosen Judo rules allowed direct transition to newaza, enabling scenarios where one less skilled competitor could drag the other down to the ground (a tactic now known as "pulling-guard" in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu). There is absolutely no question that the Gracie family demonstrated great skill and marketing acumen by promoting "Gracie Jiu-Jitsu" or Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu to the masses. Helio Gracie's loss to Kodokan Judoka Masahiko Kimura was advertised as a "moral victory". More importantly, the Gracies sponsored the original Ultimate Fighting Championships when the world was begging for a professional combat sport with more depth than Boxing and more realism than the WWF. However, there is now a generation of Jiu-Jitsu students who only know half the story. Worse yet, they are often paying enormous prices for the Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu name only to learn a subset of Jigoro Kano's original Jiu-Jitsu techniques and teaching methods. The Judo world has not been without fault too. High ranking judoka often looked down on the new popular MMA world due to Judo's Olympic status. As a result, most Judo schools have been over-emphasizing the throwing techniques within Judo due to pressure from the International Olympic Comittee to increase ratings on TV for the brief moments when Olympic Judo would receive air time. Similarly, there is a generation of Jiu-Jitsu students, and now instructors, who incorrectly think Judo is nothing but a standing sport. Fortunately, the phenomenal success of Ronda Rousey, 2008 Olympic Judo Bronze Medalist and UFC / MMA Champion has brought attention back to the accurate history of Judo and its rightful place in the Jiu-Jitsu grappling world.

4x Olympian... that’s a man!💪👌

@lyndonnobles as long as you can substitute the head control. Head control is one of the key factors in throwing Osoto Gari as well as the twist in the torso. So as long as you can still take control of your opponent it will work effectively. If anything you're better grabbing your opponents head/face directly and wrapping his arm if this were a street fight. FYI I was the Uki in this video also one of Jimmy's Instructors.

What you described is the basic technique of osoto gari. Like most martial arts techniques there is the basic beginner level and then there is the shortcut version used by the upper echelon. This style is shortened for speed and if the technique fails your not in a situation where your opponent can counter with osoto gari.

the hook also lets you use your leg to pull your body close as well.

almost all of the sacrifice throws work great in brazilian jjiujitsu.

I have been a judo player for over 20 years and am curently a purple belt in bjj is is one of my favorite throws this varation of osoto-gari is called a can can osoto gari the can can refers to the hopping in it is very affective

not the standard but a variation that works. Osoto gari can be very dangerous to practice. One can injure the opponents knees and that is if everything else is done correctly. Breaking fall knowing how to fall is so important.

for this technique, could i try the left hand on the back of the head and the right hand gripping the wrist or the back of the tricep? any BBJ no-gi guys ever try to mod this? I usually grapple either in no shirt or wearing a very tight rashguard. in street tussles and during rolling i've landed very similar (but nowhere near as technically sound) techniques. i really like the mechanics of this move.

This is different from how I was taught Osotogari and your method seems a lot more practical (i.e. hook first then step rather than step then hook). I'll try it out.

There are counters to ALL techniques in Judo or Jiu jitsu, it should of course go without saying that any technique needs to be done properly to be successful against a competant opponent. This is considered "safe" from a bjj point of view (thus the title Judo for bjj) This is a "safe" Osoto because the distance forces the opponent to take a half second to close in for a pickup counter. Kuzushi and timing are always the most important factors

Forgive me for stating so, but a throw should be practiced within the standard first. a sloppy osoto gari can cause injury to knee.When practicing it should be done within the standard as established Professor Kano founder of Judo. Please post how a person should know standard Osoto gari before they venture into a variation because of injury to knee.

murray the hop hop works bc he is controlling his upper body. it's a very powerful throw

very well explained thanks

i hate when people say that jiu jitsu practitioners don't do a enough stand up techniques i believe that most schools probably train mostly competition jiu jitsu which i don't have a problem with but if they get into a real fight they don't know how to get it to the ground and get there ass beat but my point is more schools should add some self defense stuff to there curriculum it really beneficial to all aspects of jiu jitsu including competitions

Love it!!

Correct. This is more of a competition style rather than traditional..

@murray1234567891011 I'm no Judo guy so I can't answer to the technique directly, but I gotta say that Jimmy is the freakin' US Olympic Judo Team coach... it doesn't get much more high level than that here in the states. - Bill

movement!!! most of the time wen osoto is executed is when ur going side to side or in circles if u cant reap it means ur tsurite hand isnt having enough control to the opponents head. Judo is about movement and timing if ur struggling its most likely u need to improve on one of those two or both

great response. you made the claim that BJJ does not have throws or takedowns. i'm telling you from personal experience that is not true.

hooking first keeps the from evading you getting next to them

judo is pretty legit

Tokio Hirano 5th dan at age 19... Hirano obtained his first black belt by winning 22 ippons with osoto-gari

Backwards??Yes,it is YOU!Dear,look carefully and you will see that jimmy is fighting in Kenka Yotsu grip(counter grip) left on right!so,he can not do what you r sugesting .Thats how you do Osoto in Ai yotsu (right vs right) grip!So, classic attack in that position is hop in Osoto gari/otoshi.

@murray1234567891011 Could be, we asked him to show us some stuff that could be relatively simple for BJJ guys to use in competition even if they weren't training in Judo.

awsome

i see...osoto gake to osoto gari...nice footwork :P

@shann0nconn0r it doesnt hurt if it does the instructor tells u (at least he tells me)

@murray1234567891011 You know what amazes me about the comments? The fact that a legit expert like Jimmy Pedro is questioned at all.

i go 2 judo 2:) and riley :)

@davengel215 Wakefield, Mass (42.50595,-71.064449) which is a suburb north of Boston.

ken ken osoto gari

@shann0nconn0r me too

O.o

Great stuff. I'm a BJJ practitioner but I've had a decent amount of success with this throw. It's strange but the only way I've ever hit this throw is on my opponent's left side. Even my judo instructor who's a 5th dan says he can almost never get the throw on the right side.

@RileyM0730 That knee hooks actually sets up a common uchimata like counter - there's a bias against judo throws which expose your back, and it's not unreasonable by any means - don't give up your back if you can help it - but acknowledge that ashi waza can still put you directly under side control very quickly when countered, and that even back turning throws like seionage put you in pretty similar turtle positions to double legs after a sprawl.

I am a judo guy. That is absolutely one of the ways to enter Osoto gari... Hook, hop, throw.. The traditional way of training in this throw is with the openent standing square and entering square. However, in practical circumstances you opponent is almost never simply squared up to you, so the angle of reap, then repositioning is very common in competition. My two cents worth.

I was making a generalization based on what I've seen,of course there are always exceptions.

@murray1234567891011 What's up, guys. I'm a judo blackbelt. So if you notice, Jimmy's base leg is making an equilateral triangle with the opponent's legs, which is not really a bad position, but more importantly he has the person's balance and posture broken before he extends his leg. Most guys will try to escape that rear leg and step back, so no matter ow far in you step the triangle point is probably the best you're going to get, so trap the leg and hop, it works!

To those saying it should be taught the classical way first, why? This is not for Judo, it's for Judo applications to BJJ. If they've never seen or learnt the technique, they have no concept of "simple" or "complex." Functional is the criteria here, and no one's going to argue the capability of the technique.

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Jimmy's technique is excellent as always, but someone has to call out the fact that if you don't execute osoto gari very well, you can be countered very easily by any competent judoka or wrestler. If your technique is very substandard, all they have to do is push on you. You must practice this technique thoroughly, preferably with people whose stand up is really good.

this is simple... just have to pratice... like anything else... something gracie didnt want to do (pratice throws since he felt they relied on power) (p.s. when u hit the throw right, you feel like you did nothing at all).. thats why u dont see it following into the transition from judo to bjj..

this is the best way to do i, the traditional way is dam near impossible to get in competition. Jimmy pedro comes from the side then hooks the leg instead of the classical way where you try to get like side by side then hook the leg and reap.

@murray1234567891011 YES, but I think he's teaching a much more sport and convienent oriented form of Osoto Gari, where hopping might be required for beginners (as you said) aka bjj guys who haven't had time to really drill proper technique.

this will work on people who arent very good but an average skilled judoka would simply move his leg out the way before u can reap it or hook it but still very good technique

@yodaddyxx It still would work, because you will be gripping the opponents shirt and grabbing his wrist, instead of a gi, Every throw applies to real life.

@murray1234567891011 This is just a competition variation, a far-side osoto. This isn't in the tradtional forms but its highly effective.

@murray1234567891011 im sure you can osoto garai better than jimmy pedro right.

Great vid thx love your work

Very susceptible to suplex isnt it

Jiu Jitsu IS Judo

I loved that Osotogari.

great stuff

THIS THROW CAN BE DONE WITH OR WITHOUT A GI

Best takedown in any wresting sport ever. It wins the majority of all Judo matches

I realize I'm two years late, but that is a common and highly legit way of doing it. Yasuhiro Yamashita is regarded as one of the best judokas ever and that's how he does it. The way of hopping to finish techniques is refered to as "ken ken" in judospeak, I think. Check out Yamashitas highlights for some amazing o soto garis.

This absolutely is how osoto is done from lefty-righty (kenka yotsu) grips in competition--including the hop. The only odd thing about Jimmy's videos is that he sometimes doesn't point out that he's in a lefty-right situation. There are other ways to do osoto from this position, but this is an excellent one.

i think the reason is that a lot of the "traditional" set ups for judo throws are difficult to do with jiu jitsu, for the reason that bjj players are not normally standing upright like judo players are. when someone is stiff with hips back, it's very hard to get inside the same way. also, for most bjj players, they're not spending nearly the same amount of time as judo players practicing throws, so a more "beginner" level set up is usually better for their game.

@shann0nconn0r I hear you. I've bulked up my legs so much so I could reduce my chances of knee injuries caused by these type of attacks. If you have skinny legs and/or are long limbed you are more likely IMO to get injured. I'm 5'7, focus on squats and lunges the most out of all my weight lifting. Better safe then sorry.

@yodaddyxx I've done it in real life situations(Bar parking lots). It doesn't require a coat. Replace the the lapel grab with a throat grab or a a handful of shirt around the collar area. With the other hand, grip the elbow. It's pretty instinctive if you've trained the technique.

Look close you'll see its left handed stance vs right handed stance. you need the hop for lefty on righty to get close enough. If your right handed i would try to make them stand left handed by making them step to do it this way.

@RileyM0730 Again, don't want to take away from anything Jimmy says - his technique is awesome! Just want to point out that it's not a safe and easy leg throw, and that the most important thing Jimmy says in this video is "I win the game upstairs."

I decided to start training as a lefty. Personally, being held with a lefty grip feels awful. I spent more time trying to break their grip, which exposes me to counters..

ken-ken is the hop, absolutely correct. There is ken ken uchimata for example. I hated being caught by ken ken uchimata by a larger player.

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This is a standard variant of the throw. Not backwards at all. Watch some competitions and you'll see it often.

Brazilian Jiu Jitsukas don't have a throwing or takedown game until they start cross training.

THis is the greatest thing in the world.

that's absolutely not correct at all. i train bjj and we do drill throws and takedowns.

I find Judo very effective for exercising, but were is your "academy" located at?

O-soto-otoshi has no reap. Pedro is reaping. See Kodokan Judo Throwing Techniques by Toshiro Daigo

This is kenka yotsu: opposite grips,so there has to be some adjustment.

the hop or Ken Ken is essential in a lot of Judo throws.

Ken ken, not can can. It means "hop hop."

@RileyM0730 thanks for the tip. :)

If anyone knows who Alex Ceconi is(the heavyweight champion of the world of 2010 and 2016)he is my instructor

Lol Riley YEAAA

Good for you.

amen

BJJ is Judo newaza

unless someone is wearing a coat, this won't work in real life