The rough linework really makes jjk jjk for me. The chaos of everything that happened in Shibuya, and the chaos that came after, is conveyed really well through Gege's rough art style.
Personally I like the messiness of it, how clean early manga Yuji looks is a little bit uncanny honestly, and I think the roughness fits thematically as well, Shibuya changed the tone and the artstyle, to be much grittier and darker, some faces have been a problem, Gojo looks like a fish in some panels VS Sukuna.
@@radoncoding he lets them free rein so long as its within the parameters of the jjk world. He made a comment on how difficult the locust was made. But as far as Direction and Choreography uh no. Thats the directors vision.
It's a style. The story is messy, the line works messy, the concepts are messy. It's a vibe of its own. As an art teacher I have some comments about it. 1. Speed, when considering that your fans are voracious and absolutely demand material faster than ever before they must consider the rate that they produce artwork and what is acceptable within that time frame. Action; line work in Shonen like manga is all about conveying calm and action. This is obvious at times, but you must remember that lines produce a direction for our eyes to glide on. This is often subconscious on our parts. But the artist has to consider it very deliberately. In the case of JJK it almost seems that they want it to feel cerebral and emotional. If you compare the line work to something like Dragon Ball, you will notice that they are similar but there is less to interpret, this less to imagine. JJK has a very spiritual nature it it, thus the line work and paneling helps enhance that. Have they done a poor job showing us what is happening at times? Yes. Is this natural for a 2D medium like manga and comic books. Of course. Simply look at the ups and downs of Bleach. It's all about the balance of time, effort and conveyance. It's probably one of the coolest styles I have seen in a long time. It takes the traditional and applies a fast and loose punk like feeling. It's the rebellion and everything else is normal.
the story isn't messy its well put together and thought out, the concepts are brilliant and well thought out/fleshed out. Everything has an explanation to my knowledge. Take for example there's an indepth mathmatical explanation for it even though it isn't needed
@@Maxcroniusjon and tell me about Kenjaku and his purpose and what was his true intentions. Tell me what Sukana wants and why he wants it. Who's the true protagonist of the manga? Why didn't Yuji have a power until 250… It has both, it creates a good contrast. GeGe absolutely explains things, but this story has many holes in it. But it's starting to come together. The closer we get to the end the "cleaner" it is. But I still stand by the entire story, art and concept is inherently meant to be imperfect.
ur soo dumb. Sukuna doesn't "want" anything he js does what he wants, if u read the manga or anything covering it it has already been explained, and kenjaku wants the the merger to happen to see what it owuld look like. YUJI is clearly the protagonist, any other one is js a side character arc. Yuji didn't have a power because he was born WITHOUT an cursed technique are u even reading the manga? why tf would he js suddenly have a power js because he ate sukunas fingers? "but this story has many holes in it" ofc it does ALMOST ALL STORIES HAVE PLOT HOLES.@@simplydoz "concept is inherently meant to be imperfect." prove it
With all the honesty, I love Gege's artstyle, but... the recent chapters of the Gojo vs Sukuna aftermath, it was beyond readable, like so messy I couldn't even figure out what was going on + In the panels of the most recent chapter, jogoat and sukuna looked like kids, and it doesn't even look natural anymore, both the translation and the art was like roughly absolutely rushed work lol.
I like JJK as much as the next guy, however, I agree to an extent with the criticism about line work. In action and most for the time, the "sketchy" art style flows perfectly, however, I would've loved some detailed and clean artwork when a character is striking a pose, like when Gojo was fighting Sukuna and he got into that martial art wide stance.
another thing is that gege sometimes completely forgets details like how itadori lost one of his fingers and part of his ear and also his scar from mahito moved from the middle of his face to above his eye
I really like Gege's art style, but it's really hard to understand it somethimes when there's to much going on in one panel. One example is the fight betwen Itadori and Choso, specifically the moment they are in the bathroom. When the water starts overflowing everywhere and you see these panels where both are moving really fast, it was hard for me to understand where was everything and how were the punches, due to the rough lines for the water everywhere. It's just in those small moments where the art style is not as good as I wish it was. Great video man, keep up the good work.
This art is still really good. Sure gege does like to slack with unimportant panels but he delivers really well. The facials and the backgrounds blend in really well.
The highly edited segments of this video (the manga cutouts) are amazing but it feels like the videos pacing sort of didn't at all do them justice. I rlly loved those edits and slowing down the video to have them appreciated wouldn't hurt
With the most recent chapter, I think it just hammers home that your point is accurate: JJK art and paneling isn’t bad; Gege is just rushed by Shounen Jump to output bad chapters. Like after this recent chapter with some rough sketches… he still has another chapter next week instead of a break AND has to draw the color page.
JJK has completely changed from playing baseball together and listening to Lost in Paradise to having to mentally ease out the pain character d++ths did to us. Gege depictures that absolutely perfectly through his changing style, as the series turned at least 180 degrees. He is a legend. He is strong. He is Gege. And we’ll pull along. (rhyme)
As a One piece reader, jujutsu kaisen manga seems understandable to me :D. One piece has very bad action drawings and extremely confusing paneling. Half the time, i can't tell wtf is going on looking at the screen bcz of all the screen "noise"
hard disagree to be honest I cant imagine the current jjk story beats and moments under the old style as I think the old style is just way more generic and while he does have some illustrations that look a little wonky as all artists do. art is about telling your story and showing emotions through the tools you have and I think what hes doing now is more effective to that end than his "cleaner" work
the times manga dips in quality is mostly what i guess from having to possibly rush, and keep up the space of becoming so popular. i know he was already pretty popular but i feel like currently it’s at its peak of popularity, and i could guess that it’s hard to keep up with such sudden popularity and more popular demand.
after Jojo got moved to monthly publishing the art and story for a lot better with less pages coming out once per month. obviously they wouldn't let one of their biggest manga freely move to monthly publishing but I cant help but think that would fix the rushed feeling from pages have
I feel that he should do what Hirohiko Araki did and switch to monthly releases. When Araki made part 7 of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, namely Steel Ball Run, the difference between the very beginning of the part, to around the middle is so significant. It's much cleaner and more detailed, and I imagine that's what would happen when you're not constantly under the stress of having to release chapters every week. Then again, some people may be upset, but you can't really please everyone. Gege should put himself first, and who knows, the manga will probably benefit from that as well.
i like the art alot but when i read the newest chapter (came out yesturday) i was wondering if i was reading a leaked unreleased version but then the art style went back to normal
on 7:46 when they talk about the linework ik sometimes it goes over board but i feel like the rough lines make it more abstract and its own styles for me it apealing
I sometimes catch it in his artwork like theres one with Yuuta who looks cool but then you look at his hand... and it looks fugly lmao, even during Gojo vs Sukuna their feet looked goofy af. ...like generally its not bad but when I catch these small not cohesive bits takes me out of the reading cause I get distacted so easily Ok I see, yeah his art started to cut corners. Initially it was beautiful with passion and talent but now it seems like Gege although commited to end JJK, he isn't... as dedicated id say.
They're bits where the messy line work are great to convey movement examples being Jogo furiously screaming along with Mahito and Sukuna hysterical laughing. And then there's times that the messy line work doesn't really have a purpose like the lines that are nearly blacking out the reaction panel from Kashimo. There's also a little bit of inconsistency to how people are drawn.
For anybody wondering, the outro is Persona 3 Reload - Changing Seasons I spent an hour of my life finding this Edit: The game apparently dropped yesterday
2:47 tbh, I agree the paneling for the best mangakas is good, but if you saw ONEs paneling (the creator of the original one punch man story/ opm webcomic and mob pyscho 100) god man, your in for a ride, it’s more perfected then some manga like berserk and stuff.
5:35 I think it changed to show how to story changed.. it's more... like rough to show how rough the latest chapters but the face change Idk why? I reallt dont mind.
I mean like he would switch companies like shonen to seinen like for example araki changed to shonen to seinen because his art style is beginning to evolve and storytelling and he needs a lot of time to do the storytelling and making the art style realistic and so he changed to seinen because it takes month for a manga to be release which is good but bad for the people who going to wait for a month for a manga to be release but has a lot of free time for araki to relax and take time till its done and when hes done with the chapter he could relax or do the next chapter for it you get what I mean like he reboot his series but made it be part of it being pt 7 and I like how he develop his story and I like it takes time for a mangaka to finish their art and shonen stress mangaka because it more likely the art are making their arm hurt but seinen jump makes them have time to relax their hand and it may be adult but jjba still have it comedic things in pt 7 to 9 and still love it.
5:51 I love how he used zom 100’s first episode where he was drained from his job to convey how shounen jump manga creation can make you feel, ive tried making one on weekly for my friends and i told them after a few weeks im done because i burnt out of ideas and designs for storytelling and our week is 5 days because school
as an artist i think ive always gravitated towards a messier art style, be it in linework or in colouring. it just conveys this rawness to it that just really scratches my brain
I like the look that it gives characters, but I do find it hard to tell what's happening during fight scenes, so I hope Gege will try to make sure his fights are a bit clearer if he ever has the time. It could just be me though
The only thing I can say about the art style. Is it gets in the way of my reading. I feel like I lose track of what going on with it from time to time due to how the art looks. Sometimes I don't even know what im looking at and I have to go back over what I read every now and then. For example I really loved the shibuya arc that arc was so cool and I read through the whole thing. But a year later I realized that I completely forgot about the artwork because I can't really remember certain events too well. Like everything I remembered goes from Sukuna vs jogo to Yuta killing yuji. Those were the main major events I remembered and funnily enough.
Just because someone doesn't like something or thinks it's 'bad' doesn't make it true. Artists put alot of thought into their work so what youre seeing is their intention and direction which was chosen for a reason.
The ONLY thing I can say against it is that sometimes you can’t tell where things are in a sense of depth on the screen,but really this just makes it even better because I have to stop and analyse each panel(which is NOT what I do when reading usually since I’m a lazy ass reader)
@@maxim3939 Im a lazy writer as well so I didn’t bother saying this but this genuinely is a bad opinion for me to have,because if you are a lazy reader then you shouldn’t really be lazy,but it’s just my opinion(a bad one though as I said)
I didn't read the manga before the Shibuya incident, so I didn't know what it looked like before, but the fights in JJK are sometimes kind of confusing. Not only are some of the panels just really crazy to the point where I'm not always sure what the heck is going on, but also, the power system is just a bit too much for me. I have a hard time remembering all the different details of everyone's abilities. I don't mind it being complex, and I'll probably like it more if I read it again at least once or twice, but it's just sometimes super confusing. I like the art style of JJK, but I wish that it was more clear on what was happening. The anime really helps with this. It makes the fights easier to follow.
RU-vid algorithm is changing it seems, I’m starting to see lesser RU-vidrs more often, and I’m glad I do, these people have insane potential for like 100k subs to 1 million subs, if not then more.
I feel like gege is kinda going back to the season one type fresh look mix with his hatching but I feel like a section after the hakari sometimes i could not tell what was going on
He's pointing out how the old art style gives Maki more unique facial features instead of having every character having the same features and face shape. You can see it the most when you look at Maki's chin and nose shape in the old art style as you can see the shapes are sharper and very different from the more generic nose and chin that Gege is using for nearly every face he draws (in the new style I mean).
Id say the examples you used for paneling have a bias because of the nature of being digital art. The same Hollow purple drawing that you said was an amazing show of paneling looks like sht on the physical medium. The paneling sucks not because the idea is bad, but because gege forgets that the medium he's working with is a magazine, and as such, a lot of detail gets lost in the center of the magazine where the crevasse of the pages is. Paneling is not about making panels look cool and creative, is about knowing how to shape the action and how to guide the reader's attention properly, if your drawing has a big arse gap in the middle because you forgot that pages curve inwards, you did bad paneling.
I dont mind him releasing his shit monthly if it means seeing sukuna drawn with more then just 1 long continuous line. I cant tell the characters apart anymore, they are all just scribbles on a piece of paper. It has become to messy.
I appreciate every artist doing what they love in their style but I ain’t gonna lie the reason I never bought a volumen of demon slayer or jujutsu is mainly because the art style 😭💀 I am a sucker for smooth line and many line and weights for movement or noise I guess
the messy linework to me fits perfectly with the extreme and intense just chaos in this dark story. To me it looks as if the lines are screaming in pain with the characters as they feel the pain of losing people they love knowing that the chances of them living to see another day is very low, yet they still fight anyway. It fits perfectly, so i have no clue why people be getting mad at it. If anything we should talk about them bulky ah lines being used in chainsaw man. Made it look like complete garbage compared to what we had before.
If this is how it was in the beginning, people would probably be more open to it, but such a drastic change is definitely off putting. Regards is you like it or not, this is not what people expect so of course they would be confused and that's perfectly valid tbh.
Thank you so much. After that I feel that my messy line is a part of my style and identity and I should not step back or be offended, when my art is called "hairy" or not dynamic
I'm sure that the same people who talked shit about the manga's line work when they hear some criticism about their own work swear on their lives that it's all a matter of art style
I’m writing this before I watch the video ima see how much this changes my opinions I feel like the roughness of the manga make me get lost at times and it just doesn’t feel amazing to read at time cus I just can’t tell wtf is happening Edit: ok so what I’ve learned is that it’s mostly just gege putting too much in paneling making it hard to read and I still personally think that the shibuya art style is my favorite of hers