Julia Hartley Brewer clashes with union boss: "That's not poverty!" 

Yes

@@jaydentate6080 What rubbish - there are masses of people earning well under that.

Can we talk about the amount people get for carers allowance ?

@@edwardkerrigan5356 yes dead beats

I live in london and pay £18,000 a year just for rent. Gas and electric £2,000. Does 4K sound like a lot for everything else?

Private water companies, owned by foreign companies, are now unencumbered by European regulations and are happily discharging sewage into Britain´s rivers and sea. This is cheaper than treating it, allowing bigger dividends for the shareholders and bigger bonuses for the bosses. Perhaps this is why Julia is full of you-know-what.

@@kerryburns6041 Water regulations haven’t been reduced because of Brexit, a shortage of water treatment chemicals are in short supply, which has lead to sewage discharges into our rivers.

Privatising them, removes responsibility from the gov, they have someone else to blame.

Oh yeah, it was great when it was British Rail wasn't it?

@@theresamorrison1411 Yes it was. Every developed country has state owned railways even america, it's just a case of how you run it!

Can't afford to live in London...move out then! Dumb@ss

I'm a PhD student with a grant of £1300/month and somehow I manage to live in one of the most expensive cities in the country.

@@chris-jh4cx I'm sure that's a lavish lifestyle. Going by that comment, I assume you have no aspiration for more?

@@xBestii72 ofc I do the big bucks come when I finish. Getting a fully funded PhD is extremely competitive.

They are trying to divide the working people, it's the only way they can win

She's admitted to struggling in London in her youth when she was on £9k in the 1990s Funnily enough, the equivalent of £24k in today's money.

@@andrewoliver8930 Julia's idea of struggling is paying a bill at the expense of going out on a Friday night piss up.

Probably plenty of handouts then.

Walk then. Or Lay your own railway.

Just cost me £312 for 4 of us to get from Manchester to London, can get a flight to Dublin for £9 per person, disgraceful

@@markws5952 How's the boot taste

We need to pay shareholders and the top brass their bribes this is why the tickets are so expensive.

@@joegadd9668 ?

if we had free market for labour we would not have a minimum wage. i take it you support that then? we would be allowed to hire and fire people if they do not provide the labour that they are paid to do.

@@MinkieWinkle Free market economies generally have regulations anyhow; strong unions and collective bargaining is more important than a minimum wage.

@@desmondroberts6034 A union is not free market, it is collective based bargaining. Example of How collectivism works against the worker. Lets say you are a grafter, you turn up early, you leave last. you bust your behind off all day every day. If i was an employer, i would do my upmost to keep you on as staff. you are worth more than a guy in the same position that drags his knuckles all day. i would pay you more because you do more The union will say. employers must pay the same wage for the same position. irrespective of the efforts of the employee. you both get the same. So an employer can not aware hardwork. even bonuses. almost all unions demand collective performance bonuses, which lead to all get it or no one gets it. The problem is with that, those that did nothing all year bitch moan and whine they didn't get the bonus they did not contribute towards. and the hard workers that also didn't get the bonus will start to hate the lazy gits that stopped them from getting the bonus too. I would rather induvial bonuses, where hard workers are awarded and lazy workers get no bonuses. unionised collective bonuses are silly for both the hard worker and the employer. as employers would like to award the workers but can not as the union would say all or nothing, and because the hard workers are not being award for their hard work, they will not work hard for no award for doing so. So then the productivity drops even more, then you end up with a loop year after year of never giving out bonus as the collective didn't reach the threshold, mean while the good staff you wanted to awards have not all quit. leaving you with a work force that is lazy.

@@MinkieWinkle that’s not a free market. That’s a captive market for employers. But ok let’s make a swap…scrap minimum wage in return for scrapping every single act of anti union law in this country? Deal? Yeah thought not.

Hope your lot get behind working class this time! They want another orgreave, stand with the people that will back our plod. Unfortunately our Bobby’s turn brown shirt quite easily.

Theresa May as Home Secretary ran down the size of the police force just has the Tories did to the rest of the public sector. What the ex police officer says is par for the course.

I agree with what you said except for her usually being right. She's purely wrong wrong wrong

@Akfdthvc Xghuu so please explain why someone should be so poor they have to choose between heating their house or eating that day while the company they work for brings in record profits every year

@@klebyell Anyone I've seen on TV complaining they're poor, can't afford this or that are usually fat (so not starving). They usually have tattoos (not cheap). iPhones (I can't afford one). Sky TV etc etc etc! They're a single parent with three kids (where's Dad?). Simple - can't afford kids, don't have them. Why should the taxpayer pay for them? Priorities - moaners don't have them.

@@sharronturner1801 people on benefits aren't part of this discussion nobody predicted we would currently be living in a situation where months of peoples wages would have to go toward they're energy bill. Not to mention have a government who views people asking for a wage that they can live off as a peasant rabble to quell. You're a victim of the times I'm afraid you think everyone on benefits is a fat greedy leech because it's all you've been shown on TV programmes and the news. Educate yourself

Dont pay your money to football clubs then

Don't like footballers wages. then stop paying stupid money for sports packages, and tickets.... there wages is a reflection of the money they bring in from people like you. they get paid more, because they bring in more

@@carsandstuff4624 and then English football declines and an important element of working class culture disappears? It’s not really a solution is it though? Having a footballing system like Germany where even top flight matches are cheap enough for working class people to attend would be a better one I’d suggest.

Is it ? How do you work that out ? 24, 000 living at home with parents! 24, 000 and your partner is earning another 30,000. There are lots of different choices in life .

@@garyspruce7736 yes you are correct for many their choices are which bill to pay, due to the low wages thst have fallen even further over past 12 years of Tory government while the wealthiest continue to profit and stash money in tax havens, in Thatchers day corp tax was 34% today it is 19% who do you think makes up the difference so I know it is hard for people like you, but try to have a little empathy for others or at very least be quiet.

Try explaining that to these braindead gammons.

I wish i was earning anywhere near to 23 grand.

@@SpartasEdge Yeah, unfortunately sitting at home jerking it to hentai usually doesn't pay very well.

They are going on strike to make sure that you do have a train service in the future

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Or if you don't like the wages your on go work somewhere else. Why is it some people think that lower paid jobs should earn the same as a surgeon. Deluded..

How in hell can ppl who barely make 24k just afford to relocate? And no one expects a surgeon's salary, but a living wage. They deserve it.

@@Charlieb6308 getting another job is not as easy as you think.

I mean you skipped over the "living in London" part. £24k in London in 2022 is basically poverty. I share a flat with 2 others in London and pay roughly £1100 a month in rent before bills, if I was only on £24k I'd be on the picket line as well.

Ask me 66 year old gardener still working for £11 hour

then they should fight for better, your suggestion is if you are lowly paid just put up and shut up, we want our services but we dont want to know about your struggles just dont inconveniece our lives?

Minimum wage means that if you're on a 40hr week, you're earning 19k a year, soooo not sure how you get 12k a year unless they're not working a full 40hr week, in which case that's their issue and not the pay itself.

@@jeffreybocking5234 problem is is that the rail workers are on an average of 49k a year which is almost double what many workers in other public sector jobs earn.

They've regularly given themselves unchallenged rises. That never makes its way into these conversations.

Would love to see her Mike and piers live on 24k a year fucking hypocrites 🙄

Just found this she has a fucking nerve to have a go at people who want more than 25k a year When it comes to monetary accumulations, Julia Hartley Brewer’s Net Worth in 2022 is estimated to be a whopping $100 million. Her annual income counts as $4,00,000. The major portion of her income comes from Julia being a successful presenter, journalist and columnist. Previously, she has served for various channels both on television and radio. Not only that but also, she does write for different newspapers, from which she is believed to have earned quite a lump sum amount of money. Also, from her show, launched on RU-vid, Julia has earned quite a decent amount. Earlier, she has earned silly money of £3000 for a three minutes fabulous dinner speech.

We'll move sum wher els

@@markscouler2534 yeah but she’s allowed too, we’re not 👀

@@markscouler2534 Nothing stopping you getting out and about and advancing in life. Instead of moaning about Julia, maybe you should vent your anger to the union bosses and their six figure salaries.

That’s so true. I just wish more industries in this country were protected by unions.

There is that!

Trade unions protect all their members

Truss does the jealousy thing these days by saying that Sunak wears an expensive suit etc. The stuff that the Tories used to criticise others for doing.

they'd use it if necessary, believe me.

The safe working standards is a total red herring to mask their greed. Why should these dinosaurs hold back technology just so they have a job? Technology changes the world, as old jobs go, new ones come but try telling that to the unions who're still living on the 1970s.

@@theresamorrison1411 Assuming that is true it, doesn't change the fact that they never question them about it.

If I got 24 grand I'd be the happiest person in the UK.

@@chrisjones3901 Well no one will give it to you Chris Jones because we have a mandate that expressively ensures Chris Jones is to be Kept Unhappy for a very long time. I am sorry Chris Jones.

Foreigners own our rail.

The price is to pay for the shareholders and bosses bribes, automating the trains will just give them another reason to increase fares yet a lot of fools think prices would be reduced, this is just another scam to get the foolish angry at unions.

especially when more people can get in a train then a plane to Amsterdam

trains have tracks .to maintane

78K a year since last Oct,before that he was on railway workers pay

Correct. Why would a union official take a pay cut because of government and corporate incompetence and ideological malfeasance? Not their fault Tory leaders want to role play Thatcher.

@@maxpowerii7368 ooh , sounds like you didn’t appreciate the qualities of the best PM this country has ever had

@@stephenroberts8057 the only people who think Thatcher was the best PM this country had are the Chinese and Indian billionaires she created at the expense of her own country and people. Just another traitorous prostitute who sold her country out for gold.

What a stupid comment

As he should be

Between the 2 of them hes paid more .......... and he will be paid regardless of a strike or not . Simple salient fact is in covid they got paid to sit at home or do nothing . Now it needs paying back . Throw money at them and everyone gets money be it the schools the etc etc ... inflation never reduces , more money will need to be thrown there direction its a never ending story , the magic money tree always gives now doesnt it ? OR . They have been well rewarded for years .... now they need to suck it up buttercup and cope with the fact the decent reward they get isnt going to be worth quite as much . In time they may get a better deal as the present inflation chills out but theses demands and forcing the country to suffer will get paid back in kind ........ not that it will impact on your suit .

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What’s that got to do with anything?

@@paulpurves484 She says £24,000 per year isn't a poverty wage in London. Out of interest, what does she get by on, is it 24K? Is she a champagne capitalist telling railway workers to be grateful?

@@michaelc3051 I get your point but by the same token it’s surely hard for Dempsey to justify his £100,000 a year salary that’s pretty hard to stomach too!!

@@paulpurves484 I think Dempsey gets £78,000, which is hardly a luxury life in London today. Hartless-Brewer isn't even talking about him; she says people on 24K can't be in poverty. How would she know?

@@michaelc3051 were not long out of lock down we’re heading into a recession I think most of us are just glad to have a job never mind a pay increase

Cant stand her Mike and piers they are such fucking hypocrites and so far up their own arses

It's her favourite subject.

Tony Jones, are you related to the above..Chris Jones. If that is the case the same mandate that expressively ensures Chris Jones is to be Kept Unhappy for a very long time also extends to yourself. i am deeply sorry for this.

No they shouldn't. No one should experience poverty at any level.

Real poverty is not having a roof over your head. . And I foresee thousands being added to the already growing legions of the homeless because of this cost of living crisis. . Brewer won't be affected by any hardships because she's just another one of the very wealthy with nothing better to do than stir the 5.hit by creating an enemy for you to focus your attentions on rather than have you analyse the real culprits that have forced a cost of living crisis upon you.

Workers fighting workers exactly what they want.

so the rich never have enough and you are for them getting more, while the lowest in society the beating heart should be quiet and suffer on what they are thrown, we are constantly pitted against each other for standing up for anything instead of holding those hoarding the wealth of this world to account.

@@sixtythousand5937 a little bit of depravity will bring people back down to earth. anyone thinking 24k is poverty is out of their mind. and is entitled beyond belief.

MPs keep giving themselves pay raises because you keep allowing yourself to be extorted.

@@keithbstar1 No politician alive will look after the worker. Neither will the trade unions. This is propaganda. A load of bull. The only people who have looked after the worker are the working class themselves. I saw my grandad tear himself apart during the 70s miners strikes. Only to find a prolific union leader owning a bloody expensive flat in London. Yet many miners were totally relying on charity. Its a joke.

MP's don't give themselves pay rises, they have an independent governing body for that.

@@MrRailjunkie oh thats alright then ?.

Yes a sitting government that can be unelected wants vote losing inflation.

@@libertasdemocratiam887 - yet it’s been constant for decades as a debt based money creation system requires it. Another thing, you look at parties as the government. The government is permanent. Foreign policy, move towards surveillance state, military industrial complex and more. All areas that don’t care who sits in the throne. The real power. “Give me control of a nations money and I care not who makes the laws”.

And then you get replaced by 15 Somalians who get paid less, wahoo

They offered 2x 4% pay increases. RMT just want more

Should've paid attention at school then

I'm poor and everybody else should be ...

Lol what a stupid couple of paragraphs. You waste your time.

Sounds terrible.....you need a good union✊️

@@tanseygreen typical left thinks I only have one job xd. I run a small business too top up my wages and I'm on Universal credit as a emergency fail safe. Because not all people have the option of setting up a small online business, I was lucky enough to get a redundancy post covid. I would curb your enthusiasm BTW, your assumptions make you look ugly.

You do know of a business makes a loss, business owners do not get paid at all, right? You seem to think they have it all sweet and peachy. If the business makes a loss and your and employee. You will still get paid. The brass won't. If the business racks up debt, are you an employee responsible for the business debt? No. The brass is.

@@MinkieWinkle well the businesses in question took half a billion pounds in profits during the worst trading period for the railways on record so I do not think there’s much chance that they are going to make a loss anytime soon whether they give pay rises or not.

@@graemecreegan6749 and there gross income was?

@@MinkieWinkle whose gross income and what about it ?

@@graemecreegan6749 merely stating profit as you did means nothing with out knowing gross income. For all we know that could be 1 percent, 5 percent or 50 percent return. Take my own industry, it is commonly quoted that we make 2 billion profit per annum, okay yeah cool. The issue is,to make that 2 billion, we spend 20 billion. So total income is 22 billion. A mere 10 percent. Now factor in 9 percent inflation. That profit soon dwindles

The government didn't sack P and O staff, a private business did. They broke the law in doing so. If you're going to make a comment you should go and polish up on your facts.

Thames water is owned by private companies that are run by foreign governments. Guess who made it easier for foreign governments to buy our businesses, runing them abysmally, you a clue it wasn't the blues' and Bojo.

Government does care about PandO workers!

Marxist fools.

@BoxReactance your argument doesn’t make sense. Funny how you focus on the tiny % of workers that get above the average pay and just ignore most of the workers that get paid less than the average. Also the argument isn’t that people in the rail shouldn’t be paid more because nurses are paid less. The argument is that nurses should be paid more so they can afford to live a decent life. I think this radio station is turning your mind to mush. Give your head a wobble.

@BoxReactance What constitutes a fair wage: How about the national minimum wage be £10, the living wage as £15, and have a progressive tax system that penalises tax dodgers, MPs outrageously abusing the expenses grant, and corporations who use tax loopholes and excessive profiteering and not justifying it?

@@keikoandgilly Who voted for these idiots in power, oh yeah the same people who are now whinging for a pay rise. You should of voted for Corbyn.

We live in a country that has sold off our water, electricity and gas, travel. Next stop private health care where the richest get the best treatment. Welcome to boris Brexit Britain

You’re kidding…£34k? The average salary for a train driver is well north of £50k. I know a guard/train manager and he is on £46k.

@@kipsome45 I guess it depends on how many hrs you do and what network you are on. I think he is on Chiltern rail but I'm not disputing what you are saying.

Not everyone is a train driver mate, 3% of the work force is

The RMT doesn't represent many drivers; they have the ASLEF union. The RMT represents a great many low paid railways workers e.g. ticket office, conductors etc.

They want more. They always want more. Just enough for them to conveniently forget about the "safety" concerns. You have to laugh really that they get away with it.

They been doing it in liverpool for the last couple of years guardless trains.

Brewer won't be affected by the cost of living crisis like you or I, and I very much doubt she'd give you a copper or two to help feed your children either. She's just another of the very wealthy with nothing better to do than help create divides between ordinary folk.

You think the living standards for the common man are bad, try being a common woman.

@@jlm3124 maybe they self identify as women. How presumptuous of you!!! TRANSPHOBE

If there are less passengers on trains how can you expect a pay rise?Raise the cost of tickets & subsidies I suppose,dream on, those days are now over.

@@jonathanlake6053 I agree , it needs explaining to the unions why no offer is being offered . Maybe they do , but the members not being informed.

Lol great way to go about, the end result of thst is the corporations will just ignore you and work to replace you. The better method is to have daily meetings regardless if there's anything to talk about, soon enough the corporation will value it as wasted time, then finally work a solution. They respect economic value, not feelings. So the unions should play to that, rather than be minipulative and keep using grandparent government to solve the issue for them.

He's a lying rat 🐀

Delusional fool. You lose money and needed 16 billon in a bail out money thats 600 pounds for every household in Britain. Get back to work we are all suffering

I loved the seventies

You have no idea what you're on about

@@tanseygreen I presume that's the best response you can come up with. I lived & worked through the 70's when red robo conspired to ruin our motor manufacturing capabilities that caused thousands of well paid jobs to be lost. Also the 3 day week in 1973 ruined thousands of jobs because companies couldn't make ends meet. The pay demands at the time caused inflation to top 15%. Strong unions got big rises for their member's, how about the majority of workers who are not union backed & found they couldn't keep up. I worked in the motor trade as a mechanic then & unions did nothing for us, the recommended union pay was peanuts to what we actually got so there was no benefit to joining! It's because their wasn't enough people in the industry to make it worth their while, which goes for a lot of industries. Consequently the wage gap widened between industries with unions & those that didn't. So, no change now!

@@kimperry4823 if they are not a vital industry why are you bothered, are the only people allowed to retain their living standards are those on more than they need to begin with, you cant compare wages otherwise anyone any more should never get a pay increase.

Yep, I remember that time, no electricity in rolling blackouts, candles for light, no fire service, no refuse collection, ruse piled high rotting in the streets, rats everywhere, the unions had everybody on strike.

The problem Is the reduction in safety staff, accidents can happen on railways easier than people would think, and with such a big network, any negligence to the physical infrastructure will lead to accidents, and 500 tonne+ trains travelling at huge speeds hitting brown points or a broken rail will be disaster. The outcome of anything never got better by cutting the focus on safety, and nothing beats a human eye.

Join a Union

I'm sure that sounded edgy and clever in your head, but by that warped 'logic', it's in the British Army's interests for Russia to invade this country so that they would have an enemy to fight. The Union leaders are doing exactly what they're meant to be doing, standing up for their members. It's better for those leaders that a resolution is found, which would demonstrate the power of being in a union. Strikes are a means to an end, not an end unto themselves.

@@jamesgray1210 I'm really not interested in being 'edgy', I see it as obvious. They have to justify their hefty wages. The British army is there as a deterrent, we don't want or need any invasions.

@@kevinb6831 Well yeah...they have to justify their pay by doing their job - which is standing up for their members. If they just sat around and let employers abuse pay and conditions then they wouldn't be doing their job 😂 Unions are supposed to be a deterrent too, a deterrent to poor employment practice and insufficient pay. Who else is going to stand up for people whose pay isn't anywhere near meeting inflation? If unionised workers feel a strike is their only leverage, then all power to them. I say that as someone whose week has been disrupted by the strikes.

@@jamesgray1210 Their pay going up a lot means everyone else using their service paying more. That's the reality. Non rail workers also have to deal with inflation.

@@kevinb6831 Rubbish 😂 Do you know much some these rail bosses are making? Some were even receiving bonuses during a pandemic. Fares have been going up steadily for the last 12 years without matching wage increases, the two aren't connected. Yes, you're right, they absolutely do. That's why the BMA and CWU are looking at strikes too. Are you really saying that because all these sectors are suffering inflation that nobody should take a stand? That's a rather defeatist approach. Yes, let's all just sit back and enjoy the suffering lads, because at least we're all being fucked together. Better that some of them secure a proper pay rise than none of them.

with the russians hoarding oil this will be happening everywhere.

If I was PM I would give everyone a 12% pay rise and there wouldn't be any long-term consequences of that I'm sure.

@keakoandgilly It’s the second time this century it has happened. Certainly has happened many times before. I’m guessing you’re a youngster then.. Your fist rodeo?

@@6chhelipilot a 12% pay rise can happen with a progressive tax system, one meant to penalise those who tax dodge and use loopholes, while rewarding those law abiding tax payers.

@@monk3yboy69 I’m an 80s lad, if that’s what you are implying. No need to be snarky. ;)

Get them lazy beggars to accept worse conditions, job cuts and efficiency cuts.

Yep it’s tragic people cannot see this

Rubbish it's profiteering from disaster capitalism & 12 years of Tory Austerity. I think you've been reading or watching to much racist propaganda.

Please tell with a labour shortage you expect these jobs to be filled then

@@kevrussell5972 firstly make sure our own youngsters are put first into the better jobs , start promoting trades again in schools instead of teachers telling all the children that they must go to uni to have a good job with lots of Money. The government have been promoting apprenticeships and offering companies good incentives, surely that's better than bringing in more migrant workers. Somehow we need to sort out the social care sector that is probably the difficult area. Farming can be visa run , but migrants coming into work short term, they do need to be treated better though , we also need more put into doing it mechanically. As a country we have to stop population growth and 300, 000 plus migrants a year coming to live here is not sustainable. We have the same poverty levels as most of the EU do to the same reason, we all import poverty to do the jobs we don't want to .

@@garyspruce7736 yes I agree but if we have a shortage of workers that means we don’t have anyone to do these jobs in the first place that’s why we have migrant workers in the first place they don’t come over and take our jobs they come over here and do the jobs what we can’t possibly do and that in turn builds the economy, with more jobs than the people to do them the economy goes down unless you use migrant workers, so it doesn’t matter how well trained our youngsters are there aren’t enough youngsters to fill these jobs and that’s when companies go bust , if you need 30 bodies to make your business run 20 won’t cut it and then that’s 20 people out of a job and one less business, so do you see my point it’s fine saying employ local people before migrants but there comes a point where that option is used up , look round the world some of the wealthiest countries rely on migrants workers because that’s what builds the economy up, I’m not saying this is right but that’s how the world works and always has

If the whole country did, wouldn't the stupidity stop pretty quickly?

She’s always been out of touch. She’s a Thatcherite, neo-con. She’s throws some red meat out to her regular listeners, but overall she’s a useless, establishment hack.

I think Julia like most of these presenters are forced to push a bs narrative on this. Otherwise they don't get their 30% rises

@@johnwhite6346 Wrong.

I know, she's a complete buffoon

define a fair wage?

@@kevinb6831 I’m sure you’re smart enough to work that out. Now I’ll wait for you to reply and do the Tories bidding for them..

@@kevinb6831 🧐🙄🙄

@@aranci-nick6302 I'm asking you, though. you're the one demanding a fair wage - how can that be met if you can't define what a fair wage is?

@@kevinb6831 I’m not going to answer asinine questions. My commiserations to you for being gaslit by politicians and the media

She is a rat mate !!!

It is her job as an interviewer to challenge people on their points

@pollutingpenguin …. Is that what she was doing ? Couldn’t notice behind all her smug comments.

@@a.hoctavius5848 she was losing this badly which is why she went flippant mode. Out of her depth on this one.

He's a legend

You must be watching a different video to me.

@@SpartasEdge another one manipulated by the big boys on the media. You're on the side of the greedy train bosses and not the working man? Keep on licking the boot mate