Julian Batchelor on the NZ Herald article labelling him as far right 

I think the nz herald must now be considered a marketing and advertising company, which will present any narrative by anyone as long as the price is right. To consider them as any part of the 4th estate would be deluded as their actions speak louder than their words.

The main principle of the treaty was equality for all under one law with one vote. Co-governance is an unfortunate name. Co-management would have been better. There will always be left, center, and right. The thing is to keep a balance in politics and in nature. Maori and others have always worked well together, but things have gotten so radical now, and the United Nations are seeing things in black and white, but we have so many cultures under the rainbow in Aotearoa, and the truth is that we are all descendants of immigrants with recorded histories as proof. Education is the key and that is exactly what Julian is doing. Ignorance can be bliss, but it can also be dangerous. Maybe if Julian had the united tribes flag on display it might help. It is so sad and disturbing to see our jewel in the Pacific so divided. We need to get back on track to basic unity and openly co-manage the country under the main principle of the treaty of equality for all. Moriori will never get an apology because there are none left to apologize to. Think about it.

You are Far Right these days if you have a gym membership or if you like to eat meat, so not a very high bar. It just means they don't like what you are doing or who you are, so not very tolerant or inclusive of them.

Te Paati Maori routenly have patched mongrol mob members at their events. Should we judge Te Paati Maori guilty by association?

Everyone seems to be Far Right nowadays!

I genuinely do not believe that anyone working in NZ journalism actually understand what "far right" would look like. I grew up in Europe and they actually have far right parties in Germany. A far right party in NZ would have policies that are incredibly obviously very far right, usually racially discriminatory in the extreme and no such party exists in NZ.

I’m Māori, yet too hear anything racist from Julian? Disagreeing with one’s point of view is not racist. Saying he’s racist over and over again also doesn’t make it true.

stop handing out billions and assets, recover it all.

42 minutes of a constructive conversation on an important topic that needs to be discussed. Well done Platform. 👏

The gangs have a lot of guns - that is well known - so why wouldn’t some people want to arm themselves. That doesn’t necessarily make you a nutter, as Michael seems to be saying, with a few eye rolls thrown in.

I'm registered with my iwi and I totally support this man's tour. I'm totally in favour of free speech including speech I don't like.

This issue is not about race or party politics, it's about constitutional change that is being promulgated by activists and a Government and its quasi governmental agencies, hell-bent on an agenda that has never been presented to the public at large. There has never been a definition of co- governance issued by Government, in fact the opposite has occurred with concerted efforts to prevent discussion. The Civil Rights Act guarantees equal rights under the Law. Co-governance would breach this Act.

I'm registered with my iwi and I totally support this man's tour. I'm totally in favour of free speech including speech I don't like.

They are so desperate to stop Julian 😂 What will they accuse him of next?

Good on the man for sticking with what’s important, like he said there are Maori, Chinese other ethnicities helping to organise a legitimate, Legal and private meeting. What are they so afraid of?

Pretty sure Maori state they were immigrants,came here in boats like the rest of our ancestors ? ,just stating the truth ? Anyone else ?

search for Skeletons in the cupboard, Gabby produced it, also Te Papa/govt embargo on non-maori artifacts found and held until 2063 (not to mention the ones destroyed cause they didn't fit the narrative)... Pyramids down Dunedin ways and the wooden carved idol found there which is now held in a museums basement, the standing stones (star/equinox maps) found all over. Big cover up of our true history has taken place.

Thank you Platform for such a clearly informative and respectful presentation on Treaty detail ……..

Are you sure you have the right interprutation of Kawanatanga ? to my understanding it means Governance not Sovereignty ? I have friends whose name is Kawana in Maori and known as Governor in English, members of the family interchange the words , some known as Kawana others Governor , but they are the same whanau.. The signees of Te Tiriti agreed to being Governed which makes co Governance a breach of the Treaty . Rangitaratanga is Sovereignty in Te Reo , and the Treaty vouchsafes Maori Sovereignty over their own lands but not over land bought by Pakeha . The merging of both Maori and Pakeha into both has been an act of good faith , exemplified by the gifting of the National parks by Maori Iwi and Hapu to the Crown for the enjoyment of all .. The Labour Maori caucus and Maori Party are misconstruing the meaning for their own political agendas which are in breach of the Treaty .

Of course he and anyone esle is aloud to speak their minds it’s called freedom of speech, one of the freedoms my ancestors fight for for this country. If you wanna know what racism is just look at “the Maori party” it’s in the name a group of people only looking out for themselves not the whole country....

Brilliant get rid of co governance. I am happy to live with the Māori version of the treaty.

Wow someone who actually understands the treaty.

Censorship is the tool used when the Lie loses its power.

The White South Africans who survived were prepared and armed. Maori separatists won't play nice.

These days 'far right' just means people that don't agree with you or have a different opinion.

Sir Apirana wrote an entire book on the treaty in 1922 and discussed it at marae around NZ. They back translated the Maori version to English. It proves Sir Kawharu completely wrong. Sir Kawharu ignored Sir Apirana's version and he also had a conflict of interest as a treaty claimant. All the law written on Sir Kawharu's version needs to be chucked out and we start from scratch at Sir Apirana's version. Lots of previous claims will need to be handed back to the government.

If hundreds of men waving swastika flags marched into my town, and that night I heard gunshots from the city center, all while the government tells me its fine and if I say anything against it I'm the bad guy I'd "arm up" too.

First people who came here were foreigners, Facts!

Far right, we are extremely right, or in other words 100% correct. Let's take that bs slur back and use it.

Restore New Zealand. Well said Julian!!

your a hero Julian, a very brave man standing up for what is normal, nothing extreme about your message, go you good thing you, keep being you

You never do this to someone how is Far Left good on you Julian . Restore New Zealand .

There are a lot of things that five years ago I’d have laughed at and said it will never happen that are now true and a lot of things I’d have never heard of that look likely to come true. As far as the gun question goes. If there is nothing to see here why does the government seem so keen on removing guns from the public. Remember it’s to late to look for protection once the war has started.

I'm Maaori (and European, like we all are) My wife is Maaori (and European) My Kids are of course Maaori (and European). I already practice co governance. We all do. We all vote. Batchelor has every right to hold meetings and talk about this stuff. Our media are not doing it. Our current Goverment don't want to talk about it even though they are trying to push it through. I look forward when (due to demographics) we don't have to worry about this stuff since most of us in NZ will be Maaori. We can consign all this divisive politics into the dustbin of history. We don't want to end up like Fiji. (I do wish Julian would not pedal quack theories about red haired Celts and Moriori (Maaori got here in waves, didn't arrive all at the same time). As for the Chathams, that was a genocide by later Maaori on earlier Maaori (who called themselves Moriori).

Julian talks a lot of sense, and the more his message is spread and understood, the better for NZ's future.

good interview. Just the kind of discussion we need to have

Julian no guns needed,just keep up the dialogue

An excellent interview thank you both. Im not sure I am entirely comfortable with the wording of his booklet as some of it I feel is unnecessarily provocative however he certainly has the right to put his views forward. A pity msm will not give him a chance to speak for himself in the same way Michael has.

Of course there were people here before Maori, who do you think dropped them off here as we sure didn’t get here on anything like the traditional looking waka.

No, Julian is not far right, he's just right!!

I like your style Michael, no yelling, no constant interruptions, no cutting people off speaking over the top of them consistently, you listen, then ask very pertinent questions, and challenge what you think is challenge worthy, while genuinely listening for the response, to challenge further, a true INTER - Viewer.

Anyone who does not go with the Maori narrative will be constantly berated and and denigrated...

Julian should be allowed to continue😎

far right or right so far?

Section 61 of the Human Rights Act 1993 provides for a civil law remedy for speech which does, or is likely to, incite racial disharmony (for which there is no need to prove intent) and section 131 provides a separate criminal offence of inciting racial disharmony (of which intent is an element). The Human Rights Act 1993 is aimed at giving all people equal opportunities and preventing unfair treatment on the basis of irrelevant personal characteristics. One key requirement of the Human Rights Act 1993 was, it is unlawful to treat a candidate or employee differently based on their: race, colour, ethnic or national origins. gender Section 61 (1) It shall be unlawful for any person- (a) to publish or distribute written matter which is threatening, abusive, or insulting, or to broadcast by means of radio or television or other electronic communication words which are threatening, abusive, or insulting; or (b) to use in any public place as defined in section 2(1) of the Summary Offences Act 1981, or within the hearing of persons in any such public place, or at any meeting to which the public are invited or have access, words which are threatening, abusive, or insulting; or (c) to use in any place words which are threatening, abusive, or insulting if the person using the words knew or ought to have known that the words were reasonably likely to be published in a newspaper, magazine, or periodical or broadcast by means of radio or television,- being matter or words likely to excite hostility against or bring into contempt any group of persons in or who may be coming to New Zealand on the ground of the colour, race, or ethnic or national origins of that group of persons. (2) It shall not be a breach of subsection (1) to publish in a newspaper, magazine, or periodical or broadcast by means of radio or television or other electronic communication a report relating to the publication or distribution of matter by any person or the broadcast or use of words by any person, if the report of the matter or words accurately conveys the intention of the person who published or distributed the matter or broadcast or used the words.

Maori Party and indeed other MPs are always breaching section 61, the hate towards whites is cruel and scary

Can you sue the herald for liable?

When you move so much to the left that centre is now right and right is now far right.. 🤔

Julian Batchelor should read Michael Kings History of New Zealand if as he claims he’s a great reader.😎

Michael reads left wing media like the NYT or the UK Times. I used to subscribe to the UK Times but it is a solid woke fake news outfit, so a couple of years ago I canned my sub.

Julian it’s a honour to be far right labelled, I am one too .

Why was an option given from the UN that, upon ratification, gave indigenous people everywhere something different?

Julian held a meeting in my rohe- in a local hall. I read his booklet beforehand- and found that the meeting simply went through the booklet- for those who had never bothered to read it. So I left the hall after one hour- and spent some time with a local constable and a [literal] handful of protesters. Julian doesn't engage in discussion or debate. Maybe giving away his fundamental Christian views?

its already here co gov,labour greens, nx b act, nats,nz 1st ok.

Julian Batchelor keeps on outing himself! He is FULL of HAT-RED.

Michael Laws is incorrect, the Wi Parata case in which the Treaty was described as "a simple nullity", was in 1877, the 1860 Kohimarama Conference pre dated this.

So maori wanted protection? Please protect us from ourselves and the French and everyone else. We can't protect ourselves. We need the English to do it. Hahahaha😂😂😂

Yeah - be mostly South African and Pom immigrants talking of guns. We all know how stable they are. Those poor three children, huh? I bet Chinese are involved. WE do need to do full "background checks" on them.

have you seen Catherine Delahunty and Shakeeds site, both of them completely bonkers.

Hasnt Julian got crazy eyes in the title image?

25:47 really interesting. didnt know that.

I am sceptical that there where Established European settlements in NZ before Māori arrived. These Europeans would have been able to develop iron weapons like the rest of their kin & and there is no way Māori would have been able to conquer them.

Far right in relation to what though, if the National party are considered right wing, when they are hardly different to labour. So I imagine being far right in NZ isn’t that bad.

😜One vote😆 MMP is 2 votes, party and candidate 🎉

True on the populace here when the maori arrived, as stated by their own mouths from the past.

Everyone know Tibetans were here before Maori.

😂herald 🤣😂😅

Kawanatanga is a transliteration. It is not maori.

The Treaty baptised the native people from dark to light in Tikanga Christ, that is the Spirit of the Treaty Chiefs!!

Should every political party be doing background checks on everyone who votes for them? Also doesn’t matter if anyone was here before Māori for the principle of no co-governance.

There is nothing in the treaty that has anything to do with equity.

Could someone tell me exactly what the principles of the treaty specifically mean .? Really interesting. Thank you both

Celts? Michael’s eyes said it all.

The Golden Bay Community Board and Councillors have published a statement in the TDC newsletter stating that they are totally opposed to the views of the Stop Cogovernance group. If your group were roughly treated in their recent meeting, how can you have a followup in Takaka? Can you expect to be protected by the police?

I can feel a Civil war coming especially if they try to push things like 15 minute cities, Has anyone seen the Maori Fishing Bill that is before Parliament, Yeap it's real there have already been some of our fishing spots closed already

Excellent interview Michael.

Yes and they probably ate them

Stable 😅

Loved the way that Julian shot down the attempted attack on the claim maori are not indigenous. He had facts and a series of truth statements that buggerlugs couldnt deny. His only response was a "humfff". Good one. "All crazy people come across as sane until they start talking" Boom, Julian shoots that disinformation down so quickly. Love this guy.

Best way to get around the herald paywall?

Michael bite his tongue because ten minutes before this, Michael said Moriori were early Maori

Are you coming to Opotiki 😂😂😂

Interesting interview. Yes it's a calling that needs to be addressed.

Well done great interview....

What do you have to have to be a "historician?"

I have huge love for my brothers and sisters, no matter their ancestry. We all have a heart that beats, hearts and minds that hurt. We have different ways in our cultures, we choose to assimilate out of a desire to expand our appreciation of each other’s differences. We respect each other’s faith, sacred treasures. I enjoy our bi-racial heritage in this nation. It’s enriching, when you open your heart to embrace it. The more I seek, the more I’ve discovered the beauty of Maori ways and the hearts of the people. It hurts to witness this unfair representation by this group and it’s leader. I feel helpless to make him stop. So I trust the One who cares deeply for us all, who says “don’t lose heart, but believe that we will see the goodness of God . . . “ Psalm 27 verse 13

But the treaty was written in English first and then translated into Maori

The Waitaha !

Not a historian, but a hysterian.

Covering it with the label “free” speech doesn’t hide the blatant racism. What do you call skin colour picked off at entrance? How would you explain it? Don’t say they caused trouble, I’ve see the many videos, people just arrive, do nothing, say nothing, but a person with certain skin colour called over to “chat”, often by Julian himself, or his “people”, while other skin- colour people waltz on in past them. For those being stopped the “chats” go like this: “ sorry you can’t go in”, “ why not I received this invite in my mailbox, all welcome, public meeting”, “no you can’t come in, it’s not a public meeting and I can decide”. End of. OR goes like this: “sorry you can’t come in”, “why not, I got an invite and I’ve registered”, “no, that doesn’t matter, this is a private meeting and you can’t come in”. In every case the rejected person accepts it calmly, some stand there for awhile watching the people with different colour skin not even stopped to be asked for registration or anything, they just walk in. It’s outrageous. What amazes me is how calm and dignified those rejected remain, as if they’re used to it, just suppress their rejection, because they know people like Julian hold all the power and will turn it against them. It’s part of his disgusting tour, that he knows he’s inciting racism, to justify his point of tribal rule, which is completely and utterly unjustified. Eg, the little town up north where he planted himself and has caused nothing but trouble for years. Prior to his arrival it was a friendly, welcoming location where everyone got on well, respected the whakapapa, the Waiora. Since he arrived, the peace has gone. Friendly atmosphere overshadowed by stress since he arrived, just him. He’s caused a lot of damage, knew it was a Heritage NZ site, with artefacts of national significance on the land, disregarded, wrecklessly damaged, fined and warned by council. Local Maori devastated, but he continued to alienate with his actions of disrupting visitors to the many special sites by blocking the pathway, caused sewage run over the cemetery. Never an apology. In his speech he says watch out for Heritage NZ, they ll send you a letter restricting action on yr own land. That won’t happen, you would know at time of purchase. He’s lying and scare mongering. He’s the one inciting racial disharmony, but then twists it to call his “.trouble” the result of “tribal” rule. It’s all a lie and he depends on people not researching.

FREE SPEECH NOT CANCEL CULTURE -END OF

hahaha Laws ,,, he cant cope !

"Buying guns for a civil war in NZ". -- this guy Batchelor is absolute NUT JOB

Julian the great deceiver

Good interview, well done.

Psychopaths seem extraordinarily personable and pleasant on first acquaintance. That’s the danger. JB seems inclined to the fringe.

Should have stuck to co-governance where a movement is desperately needed. Michael you need to distance from this guy. The "ginger people" and " we are arming" chat will drive more centrists to the left than any sensible discussion could possibly pull to the right. They are going to become a powerful recruitment tool for labour. Expect to see the news flooded with them after comments like this

How the hell would Celts get here before the Polynesians? Stop talking crazy. Melanesian children are known to have red hair but all this is extremely tenuous at best.

SHOUT OUT Michael Law! I love how you gudie a converstaion..

Julian Batchelor how wants to create racial tension and division.