We went through same mess in our last church. People were pushed out; money abuse; lies. I would love to write an article on how pastors are in charge and no one will say no to them. People are fearful, elders let it go. All the stuff you mention is alive and well in organized religion where pastors are revered not held accountable. No one fears God more than they fear rebuke of pastors.
I was at Harvest in the beginning over 20 years ago. Sadly Pastor James had these issues back then. Always kept hush hush. Pastor James is a highly competitive person. There are a few other mega churches in that area that started around the same time. He was competing. He is very intelligent and he does have a very bad temper. Seen it a few times. I loved Harvest back then but it was clear something was wrong and left.
@@davidalan2469 praise the Lord that He is who He says He is ,and you have a rude awakening cuz it aint you . Any one reading your words can see the pride before the fall. May the Lord be merciful to you and shine his face upon you. He loves you stop breaking his heart.
Transparency and an accountable power structure with checks and balances is key and a must! Speaking to churches here, don t make the govt. step in on this stuff. 501C3 status is put at risk and begs more scrutiny. Police yourselves! I'm a believer myself, worked for nonprofits my whole career in accounting. I understand the necessity for responsible stewardship of charitable assets. Stop messing it up! Being a Trustee is a huge responsibility. Look up the meaning of the term for heaven sake! Stepping down seems more than fishy to me. They carry as much if not more responsibility than James did. And what of the banks that lent far too much? Who is going to pay the 45M? Better not be me and my tax paying neighbors! Sick of this religious organization crap. Get it together.
Thank you so much Julie Roys for giving us a voice. I felt spiritually, mentally, and emotionally abused sitting through James MacDonald's sermons for years. That man's ego knows no bounds and some of the false doctrine he preached was colored by that ego.
@@karaa7595 You don't recognize these problems right away. Abused people don't always realize they've been abused until later. The abuser has a way of making you feel that you deserve it. When you point out the problems to other church goers they start treating you differently as if you are just hurting the church and their holy leader. . After a few years I left the church. Do you still attend Harvest?
@@CloseEncounters1 from what you've described, he sounds like a narcissistic sociopath, which can be hard to tell at first about someone, is that how you would describe him? Thanks.
@@CloseEncounters1 that's very true also, good point, thank you. I feel sorry for his wife & sons, what they must have gone through at home over the years. This is tragic.
You can do so, but until MacDonald himself humbles himself, repents and asks for forgiveness from God, instead of blaming church structures, other people, etc., we will continue to get the "fruits" which you see now, most recently assaulting a woman bodily after a parking rage incident. James MacDonald is unfit and needs to take a break. He needs mental health treatment. Nobody can force him to accept the spiritual and medical help he so clearly needs.
Dear David, Thank you for posting your question and concern recently on our Facebook page. Because your question is about a perssonel-related matter, I wanted to reach out to you directly. Out of respect for her privacy and in keeping with the laws that govern personnel-related processes, we do not disclose or comment on confidential matters such as this. What I can confirm with you is that after much prayer and careful consideration, Moody Radio ceased production last year of "Up for Debate," and Julie Roys is no longer an employee of Moody Radio. I hope this provides clarity for you. May God bless you, David.
I am very sad over this ! Why do they (pastors) do this??? Isn't God enough ? I stop following men a long time but there are so many people hurting right now. When we shut up the Holy Spirit we need the journalists ( love you Julie ) , God have mercy of us.
And whose fault is that? The whistleblower who tells about the rampant corruption going on for years, or the ones who practice corruption in secrecy and pretend piety publicly and want to keep the status quo and the godly grift going for themselves? People need to wake up.
@lindaolsen7089. Those not saved or people from cults are turned off by the notoriety of some pastors who create problems. In turn the parishioners are affected as well as a testimony regarding a particular church or denomination. Pastors are to be held to a higher standard as well as those who know of a serious issue. We are all fallible humans
Julie you are not hurting the church ..the truth will set you free...lets talk about the real culprit..and the people that stood by and did not call him out ..all guilty
She almost rivals Obama using the gay agenda to divide the church. Lucifer is crafty isn't he? Uses even the best of us. Let's see how many members stop going to worship at Harvest. Let's see how many associate Julie to Moody Radio and stop their support.
Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church. I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren? But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers. Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded? Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren. Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. 1 Corinthians 6:2-10, 20 KJV Blessings Julie, May the Lord be with you.
I would never attend a church like this. I'd rather go to a good store front church, which is honest transparent, & teaching the bible rightly divided book by book, chapter by chapter and verse by verse.
@@CloseEncounters1 No. No honest and transparent. Autocratic and self-important. Closer to a cult. James MacDonald still has not humbled himself before God and repented. He did much harm to the body of Christ, to the church, to his family and to himself. And he continually minimizes, deflects and blames. He seems to be decompensating and suffering from some type of mental / emotional disturbance. He needs help, yes, but he needs to acknowledge that. Any intercessory prayer should be in this vein.
Cast evil man out from among you, and hand him over to Satan, for the Salvation of his soul, when a man suffers and believes in the Christ, and he has fallen into a pit, the only one he can call on is the Christ, even if the devil consumes him, Christ is the Salvation of all, in hope that he may turn from the evil to the good, in hope that this time it may be eternal.
I felt like these guys/interviewers were immature college frat boys. I would have logged off with their juvenile intro if I hadn't anticipated the powerful interview. Fortunately, they calmed down later in the interview, developing more credibility.
Realistically prayer is proper for all pastors regardless of who and where. The Devil is real and Satan is hard at work breaking up churches and he does it using the people within. I do question is this lady only reason to join a church was to make herself famous especially with her being a “journalist” and just like around till she find something to push hard at. I’m sure 100% she has her own sins. I would love an investigative report on her.
The truth is presented to you and still rather put your head back in the sand? Really? you are part of the problem not the solution.. no discernment whatsoever in you including Holy Spirit
Mega churches and their leaders need to be held accountable. Too many of them are out of control. That's what the OT prophets and Paul the Apostle did. I pray that God would continue to prune as He sees fit.
David his victims should be validated and he is held to different standards as a teacher and leader..as the bible says be sure your sin will find you out and he shouldn't be teaching if this is true. but he is just a man..i do not look up to men
