Where was the Mother when the Father abused her? How could she not know or suspect something. The Mother enabled the Monster to abuse his daughter. Evil men love the innocent ones and the young ones are intimidated by these men
Agree. Take a look at your neighbors. If the Mom looks and dresses like she is the grandmother, often that is a sign. My Dad came home to his Mommy wife who washed his clothes and cooked his food. And he visited my half sisters room he built on the other end of the house. She was 4 or 5 when he met my Mom. I was not alive yet. Crime secrets affect the whole family
The hardest thing for me to believe in this whole interview, is that Julie can even put together a complete thought surrounding all of this trauma, much less write a book. The book "Transformation of America" is worth the read if anyone wants further insight into sex abuse and trafficking. After watching this interview I am compelled to look at people differently and with more kindness and compassion.
50:00 These abusive men seem to have a handbook because society is telling everyone that porn and prostitution is awesome and "sex work is work," and stories like Julie's, like Rachel Moran's, like Cherry Smiley's, like millions of women's stories of pain and trauma are not promoted. Even the "nice guys" believe that women WANT to be in P&P. NOBODY WANTS IT!!!! If it was so great, it wouldn't require money as the replacement for desire and CONSENT on the part of the woman. No amount of money is worth being dehumanised. And women's lives should not be destroyed in order for men to have orgasms. These industries are completely unnecessary and if they disappeared tomorrow, the only thing that society would lose would be tonnes of pain, suffering and death. Men would lose nothing except the wrongful entitlement to have whatever they want whenever they want. Oh, and traffickers would lose money, boo hoo. Governments are complicit because P&P is big business. Sweden has shown that it only takes a public awareness campaign to change people's views on P&P. The Nordic Model is the answer, but countries won't adopt it if people are either blind to the existence of trafficking or they condone it because it benefits them somehow. Thank you for putting your story out in the world, Julie. Thank you to Fight the New Drug for everything you are doing.
We live in a world where men hold the majority of power. Women have always been objectified for men’s urges. Men will always put their power and needs before women’s safety
@@YoYo-gt5iq it sucks a helluva lot more when there's an unwanted D up your A belonging to a disgusting dude you would never F if you had a real choice.
Exactly! Why aren’t all of these men in jail? What happened to the daughter of that guy who tttrafficked her? And why isn’t her father in prison for child a✔️buse? Lots of stuff just doesn’t make sense.
@@SunshinespeckWhat doesn’t make sense?Hundreds of thousands of children and women are trafficked right under your nose! This is happening everywhere every day and the only leader that talks about this is Trump he’s the only President-that had his administration make arrests and save children
@Sunshinespeck ask that to the people in charge. I really hope Eric's daughter is safe and that one day her father is arrested for being a pedophile. Richard also needs to spend the rest of his life in prison.
I don’t think she’s fragile at all. I think she is incredibly strong. The fact that she was able to put herself out there and allow herself to trust Barry is incredible. Not every man is a manipulative narcissist. I believe Barry was meant for her. I’m just sorry that the path to him was so traumatic. She is a beautiful woman with beautiful heart and soul- I’d marry her myself if she was so inclined so I understand why Barry was interested in her. I do think she is thriving and I love that she is finally able to have a beautiful life.
I don’t want to judge, but that occurred to me also. There seems to be a pattern of relying on men for not just validation and love…but, if he’s saint then I have no problem. In relationships, though, you never really know a person. Time tells.
Thanks for sharing! Stories like this can be extremely overwhelming. But know that even the smallest efforts can make a big difference! Keep fighting for love! -FTND
I was in tears through so much of this interview. What a brave woman to share her story. Thank you so much for educating us!!! It’s hard to believe one of the ladies on the PTA could be in a trafficking situation. Amazing and scary! Thanks for the education!
Thanks so much for listening and for sharing your support. This is why it is so important to educate and spread awareness of these dangers. Keep fighting for love!! -FTND
Thank you for bringing this out. It really helped me. I've been thru a similar story. I was a single mom who just thought I had an abusive bf. I tried to get away but couldn't. My family either didn't believe me or refused to help. I still don't understand. This guy would steal my mess and force me to take drugs. It was a living nightmare. He beat me stole from me and blackmailed me threatening to kidnap my son and me and hurt my parents. I was trying to sacrifice myself to protect those around me but my mother turned any support system I had against me and tried to tell people I was an addict etc. I couldn't get away because I did leave my own apt and everything I owned behind to protect my son but he was tracking me somehow and had stolen my cat for months. The cops couldn't really help. He would say if I didn't come out of my parents house he would shoot them and he had a gun and was a felon for almost stabbing Aman to death which I didn't know and he had lied to me about in the past. Anyway my parents hated me andi was scared 25/7 with no one to turn to. Strangers tried to intervene a few times but I just couldn't escape him. He slashedmy tires many times to keep me from getting away too. Anyway eventually I went to a rehab facility to escape him and labeled myself a addict lost my kids and job and friends but it did save my life. I transferred hours away to a different facility to hide from him and then left the state. To this day my family treats me like a monster and I still have debts and legal issues that we 100÷ caused by him but at least I have peace and he can't find me. It helps to know others have been thru worse things and survived. How brave this woman is! Thank you for sharing. It gives me hope that someday people will understand how this works and stop turning against victims and blaming them for things they really had no control over. It gives me hope.
I don’t get it either! Her Dad should be in prison along with Richard and Eric. To deport Eric was a dis-service to an abuser/trafficker! This makes me feel so bad for her! It is hard to understand her story with these scumbags……
Sad he’s just in another country with more relaxed laws
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You are amazing! I’m a domestic violence survivor from a Narcissist. How did you allow yourself to fall in love with Barry, and trust him completely? Were you afraid that he was just like the previous man in your life?
And then they have the audacity to say “not all men”? Come on, is a hell of a lot of men just being involved in this one story alone, and there are thousands of stories like this.
I wonder what happened to your POS father? I feel so bad for what happened to you all your life...until Barry. What an amazing testimony. Keep on keeping on, my dear:)
I have watched both episodes and I can’t see where religion was involved in this unfortunately lady’s life at all as she said she was isolated apart from herself and her children
@johnmcdonnell4216 Religion brainwashes people to follow orders! Wake up! This happened in Utah! I bet she was raised in a very religious family. After watching dozens of podcasts with crimes ranging from rape, incest, torture all the way to murder, 90% or more, involve evil men using some form of obedience to Sweet Baby Geezus to get their sick kink on. This is a fact!
sad to say but...like she said ...what is he doing over there...he must be doing worst thing over there...we all know that there s worst thing going on ...in a place were pauverity those thing are way worst!!!and much easyer to do to...should of gone to jail for the rest of is life instead of being deported.they have giving him a second chance to start is ring trafficking to start all over again by sending him in is country.where policing is coruptand were sex trafficking is way worst
I wouldn't date anyone associated with Richard nor Eric. I would probably try to find another job or go to school so you don't have to continue relying on men like you had to when you were sixteen.
Well, you don't know what their relationship was. Maybe Eric had an ordinary day job and Barry was his boss. It's seems likely that Barry didn't know anything about what was going on in Eric's personal life.
I’m having a difficult time wrapping my head around the fact that she didn’t know she was being trafficked and just carrying on as normal during the week. Not saying she’s lying but it seems off.
She spelled it out. She thought she was with a POS sharing her with his friends she found out thru therapy that is being trafficked. Idk what you're not understanding
@@kshejohnson9207 So she’s willing to get passed around except if he’s making money off it then it’s suddenly not ok. I think it’s super messed up he did this and the guy who did this is an absolute monster but it seems off that someone would allow this to happen to them for so long.
@@kawirak8397 It’s possible. Then we go down that logic and find excuses for people who were abused as children who grow up to become monsters and hurt people as adults. Not saying there’s no cause but at what point do each example (perpetrator and victim) take some / all personal responsibility? I’m just asking questions I don’t have the answers. What i do know is there’s a surge of aggressive victimhood going on which diverts attention to actual victims. Not saying this woman is not a victim just saying it seems off that she allowed this to happen to her seemingly willingly for so long.
@@heyitsanthony6366he had psychological control over her. Threatening her with the possibility of losing her kids and all. It didn’t help that she was already vulnerable, because of her past. She did not leave because she suddenly realized it was trafficking (and no, it does not mean she was okay with it as long as he was not gettin paid.). She left because somebody helped her. The trafficking part was just a name she could later give to her experience.
Honestly listening to her story makes me reflect back on women I’ve known and was kind to…. But maybe if I’d gotten to know them better I might have been able to help them more🥲
I feel privileged and honored to watch the interview. Thank you for your courage. I also appreciate the host for creating a safe space and creating awareness.
Just got done watching both parts. Unbelievable. The amount of abuse and trauma this woman experienced with her father, her abusive husband Richard, and the trafficker Eric is absolutely unbelievable. It's left me feeling kind of numb. The big takeaway from all this for me is to intervene and take action if I see something wrong with a woman or girl. There was a time many years ago when a student of mine was having behavioral problems and I sensed something was horribly wrong at home. I discovered years later that she was being raped by a family friend. I wish I had done something. I KNEW something was wrong. And I don't ever want to make that mistake again... When Julie was talking about those instances of regular people not doing anything to help, that really resonated with me. I don't want to be that person that saw her being abused on the side of the road and just drove away. I feel like people in general, including myself, just don't want to get sucked into bad stuff. There's a natural tendency to avoid dealing with ugly things. But I want to be the sort of person who steps in and saves the victim, like Barry. If I'm ever confronted with that situation again, I want to be a strong person who does everything he can to help. Anyway, fascinating interview. You guys (Julie and Fight the New Drug) are doing incredible work!
I think it a natural thing, 'fight or flight, instinct' some will run / look away others will rush in without a thought. It's literally a reaction, nothing intentional, just see an injustice or someone in need and natural instinct takes over. There is a lot of fear in people & risk involved some just dont take time to consider such things in a crisis others cant deal with it 🙈🙉
3:00 Gavin de Becker, violence and protection expert and author of "The Gift of Fear" (which EVERY WOMAN SHOULD READ) says that protective orders are not often the solution in a situation with a violent, possessive man. In some instances, it can escalate the situation - GdeB writes that "In fact, if you work back from the murders, you’ll find restraining orders and other confrontational interventions alarmingly often. The personal effects of a woman murdered by her estranged husband frequently include the piece of paper that [an 'expert'] assured us has been “proven” effective." In some cases RPOs work, but women should remember that a piece of paper cannot stop a bullet.
What happened to the trafficker's (Eric?) daughter? Is she OK? I hope she didn’t end up with her dad! What about Julie's father? Did he have any consequences from abusing her for 10+ years? Julie is so incredibly strong - stronger than most of us! And also brave for telling her story. It is wretched what happened to her. I'm glad she found someone to love who treats her well. 🙏🏼 I've said it before: may God abundantly bless her & all survivors.
I was wondering that too. She mentioned that the daughter was very reserved and quiet, which, along with the sunshine T-shirt incident, makes me wonder if he was abusing her too.
I don’t know,,, it seems as though she purposely keeps this little- girl voice,, when she doesn’t have to. I don’t understand, why if she’s come this far,, in awareness/ therapy/ healing/ breaking free,,, why keep this personna?
I had an escort tell me once that she felt she has multiple personality disorder and one of them was a little girl voice she used when she spoke of her sad story.
It’s not a persona. Lots of women who go through abuse as a child will have this type of voice. It makes you get stuck as a little girl. It’s hard to explain but don’t victim blame.
@@Alexiax13nobody’s victim blaming. jesus. also, google persona-that’s exactly what it is. her tone, lack of properly pronouncing her vowels and consonants, etc. it’s exactly what she’s doing. also, when does talking about something someone presents as a result of their abuse translates into “victim blaming”? it’s a very strange wavelength of thought…not to mention uneducated.
When I was a kid in the 70’s there was a saying maybe left over from the 60’s that due to the “free love” movement, prostitution was not as profitable- being young and naive I believed it but now I think they were exaggerating. My mom was all about human rights so we discussed whatever was in the newspaper etc. The only thing we are missing in our society now is honor killing and female genitalia mutilation, wait I’m wrong we got those too. Our poor women and girls. Maybe repealing section 230 might help, getting rid of statutes of limitations would allow prosecution of crimes over certain numbers of years. It’s different from state to state, some states don’t have them. Some states the clock starts ticking after it happens others after the victim turns 18. Mandatory self defense classes in preschools? Dear God, even babies aren’t safe. These crimes ruin the happiness of generations of people. We have so many luxuries at our fingertips and not even our children are safe.
amazing that she has been able to find gratitude despite the terrifying stories she can share. sometimes parents are the worst thing in a persons life, and there is no reason to hold negativity near to you. Family are the people who show that they love and take care of you.
that was so impactful. Women deal with this all the time and we just put up with it. not to this level ofc. we need to stop putting up with being treated badly. this shouldn't be the norm
Julie you are without question one of the most incredible human beings I’ve ever had the honor to witness. Your depth, clarity and resilience is awe inspiring. Thank you for sharing your story and thank you to the interviewer for holding such an exquisite space by centering Julie’s comfort throughout. I’m very moved by this.
I wonder what happened with the little girls mom who was going to pre school & the little girl the reason Eric ended up liking Julie. Like I wonder if they were being trafficked too & if the sister gave her the cold shoulder because she knew what Eric would do or if she just thought Eric was a great guy & all the women he brought around were bad because you know it can go that way too. I’m hoping to buy Julie’s book soon, I’m looking forward to reading it. Thank you for telling your story.
She could work as a teacher but she didn’t know how to write a text msg? She could work at a job but she can’t take responsibility for her life. Regardless the abuse, if someone is capable of working at a job as a teacher they’d be able to go out there and expose all of this abuse. How come her father is not in prison for abusing her and r@ping her? Are all of these men in prison right now? There should be at least 3 men in prison for trafficking and r&ape!!!
Are you for real? Did you even watch all of this? You couldn’t have. Because if you did, this is NOT the take away you’d have had from this woman’s harrowing story. A. There’s this thing called a statute of limitations, which I’m sure applies to her father. She literally said she’s ONLY just learned what had happened to her had a name(s) and was a CRIM, through recent therapy. B. The amount of trauma this woman has been through, it’s amazing that she is even ALIVE AND SPEAKING after the abuses she SUFFERED, not that she committed. Remember that. She IS a victim. C. What in gods name does being able to be a PRE SCHOOL teacher who teaches 1-10 and colors and paints with 2-4 year olds, have to do with being able to text? How about taking your life long trauma bonded to you abusers to court. Especially the one you’re currently fighting with for custody! That sounds like so much fun. She HAS taken responsibility for the things she could control, admitting she is/was naive, that she didn’t stand up for herself, that she was scared and traumatized and brow beaten. Maybe if you haven’t lived in HER shoes, don’t judge her. Maybe if you haven’t experienced her EXACT SAME set of experiences, you should sit down.
