I inherited My fathers 69 cougar. Its got a worn out 390. I debated rebuilding the 390. More and more as I watch these videos I'm debating getting a 7.3 &10R140 out of a wrecked truck & getting a control pack to run it all. When my father passed a few years ago he left me $10,000 with the Title and a note that said only use the money to get Cougar road worthy. As I watch these videos about the 7.3 and prices are dropping. The $10,000 might cover a used engine & transmission and the control pack. Thanks for representing Ford and the 7.3 !!!
To be open, two things to consider, the 10R140 is way to big and you would have to cut the floor up a lot to make it fit. A better choice would be a 6R80. However, if the car is original you may want to consider just a freshen on the 390. It seems the all original cars and the highly modified restro-mods are worth the most. Just a thought.
Personally, I don't think the battle is with the LS engine, it's with the Ford 460. I wouldn't put an LS in any of my Fords, but a 460 of course. I just can't see where you are ahead in money or horsepower putting a Zilla where a 460 was or could be. I live in a metro area; I haven't seen a 7.3 for sale at any price around here. 460's, though, pop up regularly. Aftermarket parts are a fraction of the cost, engine mounts and headers are easy, and you don't need to spend thousands on a 10R trans. Lots of power recipes and support in the 460 forums., too. Somebody convince me otherwise please.
The advantage of a Godzilla is a smaller lighter package that seals up well. The 385 series is beast of engine I have one in a f350 they don't fit well in many cars. It all comes down to the proper tool for the job.
Better, stronger, more trans choices with the Zilla. Significantly stronger engine. Stock heads are good to 1000 hp. You can't just do a cam swap and get 650hp out of a 460. Their stock heads just won't flow it.
@@j.e.d.8065 Did you see how badly Evan and his pals had to butcher that poor Cyclone to get the Zilla In? A 460 would have been a drop-in. Tight, but no cutting.
@@AK_Ray You can do aftermarket heads and still be less $ than a Zilla. Or, you can be sitting on D0OE-R and D2OE-R heads like myself. And you don't need to monkey with FI and electronics. The money you save on that will stroke that 460 to a 557.
🤣😂 How good they are.... 3 professional cylinder head porters have said there Trash and when they make a aftermarket Godzilla head then it would make it a great platform.... 380 cfm with a 4.220 bore. 🤣😂 Factory ls3 ported heads do that on a 4.125 bore. 🤔
@lumbeewarrior2560 yes with a set of ported heads or with a big enough cam like 240+ @ .050. BTW I'm a engine Lover and was looking at Godzilla from a engine stand point. Again the heads suck ass... Shawn "Hooper Heads" and Darin Morgan who stated that's what Godzilla needed. 🤐 Darin did a Ls7 head for my 408 with a .030 bore. Ls7 heads don't fit nothing but a 4.125 Ls7 block. How did we achieve this 🤣😂 🤯 Engine fanatic
I've built a few rods and I learned if your gonna street race spend your hard cash on rear end and suspension set up 600 hp in a light car that hooks everytime sends macho man home on the trailer.
Evan, Always good stuff. Already have the 7.3/10R140 project in my '66 N Series Crew Cab but for sure leaning towards something like this for the Clone of '66 F100 that my dad bought new even though I have already built a 393 FE for it.
the godzilla is great looking at the power curves between it and the ls the G motor would kill it just based on the torque curve keep up the good work great stuff
@REVan Evan you cant call your self a ford fan unless you have seen and ridden with a *ford barra* 6 cylinder turbo Ausiie fords best and strongest 6 cylinder. taken more LS scalps in australia than coyotes, dont get me wrong here... i love the coyotes and godzilla but if you want to be different in the USA you go barra turbo. they came into the USA as industrial engines (forklift, generator)
and boss 260/290 needs $1500 of timing chains and oil pump gears +$500 gasket kit before you even bother driving it with any vigor, not including buying the engine for $3000 minimum
Love the content. I wish the ls fanboys would go to a different channel to spew their garbage comments. Here's a hint GM guys, nobody reading the comments on Revan Evan's channel cares how much you love your junkyard ls.
Thank-you for the video. It helped me decide to go 7.3 vs building a 408 stroker even though I already had the Windsor. Got my block from G-core. One of the last they had in stock. Apparently the video drove sales and wiped them out. Was 2k, but I didn’t ask for Erv. Still much cheaper than a new longblock. Is the chassis crank damper a ford factory pulley or something different? I was able to find fuel rails and injectors for the similar price posted, but was curious if the injectors needed to be upsized to support 600+ hp? Maybe have to use a 2011-2014 GT 500 injector? Once again- loved the video and level of detail. More like this please!
I’ve got a 1999 F150, 5.4 2v mated to a built 4R100, with a vortech S-trim blower, tuned on meth. This setup here, this zilla, is double the power - with room to grow adding a harrop blower. I’m sold. I want it. Is this unit for sale? I’m going to swap this in, mate to my built 4R100. This makes the most sense of any swap.
Maybe you should change you name from "The Ford Guy" to "The Coyote Guy". I love the coyote and love all the great Ford engines over time, the conventional SB, FE, 385 series, and the Godzilla.
Some of us like pushrods and good NA torque. You gotta build one high strung NA coyote to make the same toque as this engine. Other option is boost, and you’re easy a 5-10k into that if you do it right. That being said, yotes are great engines to make 1000hp in a hurry. That being said, two very different engines. One has been out since 2011, the other 2020. Wolfe has already made 1600 with a class limited procharged 7.3. Give it time, these 7.3’s will be right there with the coyote
@@bigboreracing356 time will tell. Give it the same amount of time with dedicated guys throwing power at it. Can’t do much about the VE of a dohc head, but it’s splitting hairs at that point
presuming you can get a good core for $1500 (highly unlikely), this is pretty good. i still think the issues for making this a viable(reasonable cost) swap for street cars, is the intake, headers, oil pan, and accessories.
@@brianwolfe2993 I'm not saying you didn't get that deal, I'm saying I couldn't find a deal like that. it would take a while just to find someone selling a core locally.
The stock oil pan fits in a s550 just fine. Right at the k-member bracket. And the intake manifold you’d want to replace anyway for performance reasons however they make elbows for the throttle body to have that part fit. Throw in a cowl hood and you’re golden. Speaking from experience
What ever happened to the 6.8 liter Ford v-10 engines are far as making them into high performance motors. Gale Banks made a twin turbo setup for the 6.8 liter engines that got put into campers and other vehicles with Ford v-10 motors.
Good question. I’m no engineer, but they are heavy and long so fitment and a car is challenging. I’ve seen it done but the intake sits very high and that’s a problem.
Are you familiar with the Build It Yourself RU-vid channel? Two energetic young engineers spliced together some 4-valve modular heads to make a 40-valve V10. It’s an amazing accomplishment.
@@revanevan You can get those 6.8 liter motors from a salvage yard way cheaper than a coyote or a godzilla motor. I wonder what the weight is on a 390 Ford 6.4 litre next to a dohc 6.8 v-10, or a 4.2 v-6 motor which Ford reversed engineered the GM 3.8 v-6 that was in the Buick Turbo Regal cars.
Check out the BIY guys, they scratch built a DOHC 40v 6.8 for their RWD Continental project. Its worth subing their channel as they detail the project as well as checking out the project from the start.
Speaking of stupid, tell me the what part of an LS that Ford did not have in first that is used on the Godzilla, also it does not have a belt drive oil pump, so who is stupid?
@revanevan I asked if they did or not..I know certain ford motors use a belt drive for the oil pump. I'm calling ford stupid for doing something like that in any motor..I just bought a 144k ecoboost f150..I wouldn't have bought it if I thought ford was trash...just asking a question.
Revan what are your thoughts on the Holley titan manifold for the Godzilla. How does it fair from the btr? I’m looking at different manifolds for my s550 Godzilla and I’m torn between the two
Well darn. I hurt my 410 Windsor and looked around at doing a Godzilla but it seemed way too expensive. This is a great deal. How much more do you think you would spend to have this motor ready to drop into a foxbody with accessories? Also how much is the control system?
Very cool build. Random question. How fast do you think this would go in the 1/4 in a 4000lbs f150 with a 4r100, 3000 converter 3.73s 28” drag radials at sea level? Hp calculators I don’t find accurate plus it doesn’t account for the 500tq right off the line.
@@shadowlandsracingthat’s probably a reasonable guess. I have an estimated 550hp 466 bbf in my 4000lbs f100 with a c6 and 30” drag radials and that’s been 11.81 113. Another almost 100hp and similar weight it should push it a bit deeper into the 11s
@@DJhenderlongthis is for the white truck. I’m not replacing the bbf unless it’s with a better bbf lol. So what do you think my white truck will run with this set up?
@brianwolfe2993 thanks. I scored a new long block crate. So, no intake, harness, or accessory drive. All sensors are present, so I'm looking at options fir engine management.
@@roberttrevino4184 You must be a politician, telling me not to be a hater, but it is alright for you? It can't be done and clear you are not knowledgeable enough to make it happen. Again, talks cheap.
I mean you comparison is stupid because high hp na builds are not what people are doing with ls you get a junkyard ls for like $500,$600 and if you are just dyno running it you just need injectors so a couple hundred dollars and you need a cam and springs so like $500 and a china gt45 for sub $200 and a waste gate and if you can weld you can do it cheaper but if not for like $300 you can get header manifolds and so for about $2000 you can make like 700hp so no its not really hurting the ls any
Not to mention I didn't see any way to control the injectors or coils which you could be in like the same price on the ls and since we were just dynoing I didn't go in on torque converter or fuel pump which would probably have many more options and cheaper for the ls
@brianwolfe2993 I just think the comparison is Disingenuous like ya the bigger motor makes more power easier im not butt hurt and obviously I wouldn't have said anything if he didn't call it the budget ls destroyer and them make a disingenuous comparison like he want with Richard holdener and just picked one of the most expensive test he has done vs the cheapest at or near the power he was making with an ls
@brianwolfe2993 yes but you'd still be in 2 or 3 thousand more its a bigger motor that's stupid to tell someone to make the same power na especially if I can make more for less with boost like I said disingenuous argument
@@flyinhigh450 I mean, you can pull a 4.8/5.3 for 500 bucks from most yards, buy a cheap turbo for 200 bucks, intercooler/waste gate for like what, 400? Get a stock PCM, spend a lil on HP tuning credits, and put a tune from the Sloppy Mechanics tune cabinet for free. Prettyyyyyy sure that’s way less than 4k lol
@@DemsRdisguisedredcoats the ls was never based off a windsor. That's laughable. Why would chevy base the ls off a windsor when the sbc was better than a windsor?
@@brianwolfe2993 it's a new ford bigblock....duh. One look at screams ls/lt. Hell it even accepts ls7 lifters. Look at the rocker arms....ls much? Yes they did.
I love how ford fanboys are always trying to " destroy the LS ". Until coyote or godzilla cores are 2-$300 you will NEVER destroy the LS, no matter what tricks you try to use. Take for example this $1500 core, it's REALLY a $4000 dollar core by the time you spent 20 hrs cleaning and honing it. Add your $3700(?) plus that $4000 core and you can buy a pretty nice brand new LS crate motor and never get a dirty finger. If you don't want to consider your time valuable, you are a fool. Then there is the packaging problems of the coyote and godzilla,and the fact that godzillas don't hold up when making big power. If they did McFlurry would still have a godzilla in it and Cleetus wouldn't have spent $30,000 converting it to a coyote....
Cleetus makes 1500+HP and has some head sealing issues that they never bothered to figure out(cuz, ya know, he's busy making YT videos, not developing new engine platforms...), so that means that "Godzillas can't hold big power"...😂 I guess that means Lencos are garbage transmissions too since they went to a TH400, right🤣 And lets just completely ignore how long it took for Coyotes to actually make 'big power' - the first 3 or 4 years everyone was saying that "the blocks are only good for a little over a thousand HP" and that the 4.6l was a better 'big power' platform lmao What a truly awful take
Your points are valid, but a 625 HP LS crate engine at Summit is about $15,000. If you do not have the time or knowledge then this is not for you. But there are a lot of people that take pride in doing their own build, built not bought.
@@bdd1469 you made a valid point about labor, but that can be said for any DIY project. If you redo a bathroom in your house you can save money but you give up your time. And there's the satisfaction of doing it yourself vs paying someone else. And I wouldn't judge someone either way. And with all due respect, your "tiny" portion of the comment is not a good example of the durability of an engine. Cleetus spent very little time with the Godzilla. Pro Stock teams break engines and they have been racing the same platform for 30 years. Does that mean Pro Stock engines aren't durable? You bring up a lot of solid points, but the simple answer is don't build one. Different strokes for different folks. The LS is a great engine and a great platform, we all know that even if we have a little fun poking it.
I love the new Godzilla and hope the guys from EFI University come out with the CID aftermarket head. But to say a Ls killer 🤣😂 Let me know when Godzilla does 1000+ hp naturally-aspirated 🫡
If I'm not mistaken a factory 427 ls7 has made 900 hp in race trim NA. I know for a fact that a 416 @ 13.5 compression has made 710 with factory Ls3 heads & a hydraulic roller cam. Then using a solid roller made 812 hp @ 8200 rpm same compression.
