Just Mick Lynch and the media grilling Mark Harper for intervening in RMT negotiations 

He's not wrong though - there isn't a bottomless pit of money. The Tories know this because they've dug right down to the very bottom of the pit and shared out what was in there amongst themselves and their friends. You just know that every Tory supporter will be using the 'pit of money' argument tomorrow.

or a foreign war

A bottomless pit of money to reimburse the train operating companies for strike days, even though they don't have to pay their staff and nobody is reimbursing the staff.

There is only the bottomless pit when it comes to PPE and tory friends!!!!!

@@simonsackett ha ha ha , it would be funny but it’s true , this so serious , the tories are in a fire sale before they go go, RW

Or Dido Harding

Or friends of boris Johnson

Just imagine a decent society where she publicly announces her share of the profits from that deal then says "I don't actually need the money so I'm donating it to...". Nah, can't see that happening.

38 Billion Track and Trace! 108 ( expected coatings) HS2! Waste our taxes on follies and inept systems but won’t enable the public sector to secure a decent liveable wage. Says all you need to know about these vile Tories.

Pitting the strikers against normal taxpayers by using the same old strategies. People still fall for it.

To be fair mate, that was a stock phrase of the Blairite era. But I agree, all politicos who say it are stalling for time.

@@GoldnDusty It was a phrase used during the Thatcher era as well. Thatcher was always "I was very clear about, blah blah blah..."

@@theworldaccordingto4555 Mhm, it’s a long-used turn of phrase, utilised since the advent of broadcast interviews. However, to pretend it’s an exclusively Tory problem does nothing to eradicate it from the political conversation.

@@GoldnDusty Tories put it on steroids to the point it's become meaningless

@@thepodbaydoorshal Of course; they’ve been in power for 12 years. The Blairite governments definitely got legwork out of it, though.

It's tax payer's money.

Exactly what I thought, saying “there’s not a bottomless pit of money for pay rises” I think is a massive attempt to deflect the issue, that profits far exceed the deserved pay rises

@@evolassunglasses4673 the Train operators are subsidised somewhat regularly and yet take large profits. I think the rail services should be subsided (nationalised ideally) however owners and workers are receiving tax-player money either way, it’s just if it’s fair or unfair

The same tax payers money that pays private companies for running, what should be public services, into the ground. By not paying for the budget these services require for complete safety and optimisation of purpose. We have to be stupid to not see through the bs.

They should mention "tax payers" to their donors and cronies.

If he hadn't he would say.

Yep

Totally. He reminds me a lot of the children I teach...they are 7 and 8.

Or when paying their pals for dodgy PPE. Or when claiming expenses on their stables heating. Or when bribing the DUP to stay in power. Or when letting their billionaire wife pay less tax than me.

Hit the nail on the head. They have money, they control profits and they are manipulating the situation to avoid giving up a portion of those profits.

Yes, the great train robbery Mk2.

Indeed, the lies are quite obvious

It's also so weird to me that he would do it, and then not own up to it, if they were negotiating in good faith. If he had forced it for some important reason that he believes in, he would've been on those programs saying "I believe in it and it's important so it has to be on the table". But instead he actively avoids saying what he believes in, I suppose because he doesn't believe in anything. It's just about the government seeking power over workers and attempting to turn people against the unions.

@@fang_xianfu Absolutely

@@fang_xianfuit's because the Tories want to scupper a deal. As Mick Lynch has surmised.

Exactly Kevin

Well of course they think we're all stupid. We've collectively confirmed it for them over the years by repeatedly voting for the Tories and Brexshit, in spite of the fact that all the lies were extremely obvious and clear. They treat the British public like fools because most of them are.

Who will we get in instead then exactly?

You seriously think Labour or the Lib dems will be any different?

@@superbananas7792 blah blah blah

@@superbananas7792 Yes.

I agree, Mike Lynch was fantastic.

I heard that too. Good on him. He was right.

Tore that slag hussain a new one

@@ando1619 : Thanks for the affirmation!

Link?

Yeh unless the economy crashes and shares go down and then share holders lose money, if they didn’t make cash when it was high shares wouldn’t work would they come on

​@@DashDriver-z1rHas to be a cut off point for proviteering. Latter must not obtain humongous wealth from and on the back of the poor becoming poorer. Workers make the profit and should receive a share of that profit. Grave 2022/23 workers have to battle for a decent income to provide a life for themselves and family. Greed, humongous out off control greed and not from workers nor unions. Fact.

@@lindacurrie8817 if everyone gets 19% where do you think inflation will go?

@@DashDriver-z1r it would help if this govt would negotiate with the nurses. They don't because they want these strikes to go on and on and hope the public turn on the strikers. This just shows how desperate these tories are. They think public will then blame Labour so they can close the gap on them in the polls. What a way to run a country. Its true what they say. Tories put their party before the country. Spineless and shameful.

@@DashDriver-z1r i believe shareholders' dividends were ring-fenced against striking so they get a pay out anyway.

They don't risk money cos if it fails the government bail them out via taxpayers money

It is bottomless because they are paying £700,000+ PER DAY for storing UNUSABLE PPE. They are doing this because they are f@cking over taxpayers.

Yes, let's have a list of those shareholders!

Too right! See how businesses manage without. 😐

Absolutely.

Rn there basically is one. In all but name.

True but the media machine won't allow it.

@@AJ-xv7oh Then fuck them and the establishment.If they are too full of themselves to allow change,then let change come without their legitimate restrictions.

Exactly he just keeps saying a bunch of meaningless words and hopes that people will stop asking him question, classic Tory move

They are playing politics. Tories have an ideology that must be implemented and workers are in the way off that ideology being implemented. The Tories serve the 1% as the 1% serve the millionaires. The Tories want to fire and rehire on a contract that promotes gig economy. The Torie want to run down the NHS preparing for privatisation the list goes on....None off the latter will serve majority of citizens but will very much serve the 1% trickle down to millionaires.

A politician answer a question? Well it is almost Christmas and miracles sometimes happen.

It’s not the early 2000s matey

Pinocchio has got nothing on these politicians.

The difference post Boris is they know they're lying and they also know the public know they're lying but they don't care. It's all about keeping the daily mail filled with headlines for their flock they've given up on the rest of us. You only need to convince them your a headbanger and they'll make you Prime Minister just like Truss, no need for the public. They can rely on English xenophobia to get reelected by putting asylum seekers in Labour areas and diverting funding from poorer areas to Tory areas.

@Bob H they havent been this brazen with lies in living memory. this level of bullshitting is at a new level.

Well that’s the thing he’s not lying he’s just not answering the question we all really know the answer to

@@The-zl8en 2 hours ago Well that’s the thing he’s not lying he’s just not answering the question we all really know the answer to He did answer the question! He confess to cook the book! That's lying. He is trying to use sample bias to hide his incompetence! Sorry, that statistical joke just revealed his true intensions....

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Yes, it’s called ‘the truth’. Wake up child.

@@lestrem11 bot by any chance or just stupid I hope 😊

@@deanbrown29 Ask your mum, sonny. You might think differently if you ever get a job….

@@lestrem11 what the fook I love bots, most random comeback ever. I'm laughing too much now thank you

Despite the rail companies being a prooven failiure like avanti

That’s the contract the Government have it’s a weird setup we pay their losses for strikes so Mike lynch by not taking the 9% which other unions have is costing us money

The great train robbery Mk 2.

it wouldve cost a lot less than they are paying out if they would be prepared to make a deal they want to destroy the rmt

And HS 2 which is not needed.

+ arms for Ukraine and 4 star hotels for Albanians coming from France

Crossrail is quite cheap by tory standards. So is HS 2. Because tories cronies are getting away with 100 billion a year tax fraud.

Yes ,correct Hotels full of foreigners , ,Ukraine a very wealthy Country ,oh ,yeah they can soon find the cash for these agendas can't they ?

@@michaelwells6797 it kind of is needed. If we don't build it then in 10 years time train travel on the NWML will be unbearable with overcrowded trains. We can only have so many trains on the line at once and they can only be so long due to platform sizes. HS2 will allow more freight to be carried on rails and will allow for more local commuter services into london. This takes trucks off the motorways. Plus there is also the possibility of linking HS1 and HS2 together to allow travel to Paris, Brussels and Amsterdam from Birmingham and Manchester in the future. This could eliminate many thousands of short hall flights every year. HS2 is about preparing Britain's railways for the future. There has been little major investment into the rail network in over 20 years. The rest of Europe is investing massively in their rail infrastructure, especially high-speed rail. Britain is lagging behind massively. When we look at France, Spain, Italy, the Netherlands, Germany and even Eastern Europe, Britain is decades behind. This project is not only needed, but should have been started years ago.

Literally

I see you are modest, I’d say ALL of them 😒

Mick Lynch will be remembered as a good, honourable man. These tories and journos that are mascots for the matrix will forever be weasels

Lynch is worth jack shit

@@RojoBoxeador yeah good old Mick we care about the millions of people who won't get paid for not getting to work cos of no trains he's on over two hundred thousand pounds a year train driver are earn 60 thousand pounds a year I feel sorry for Mick and train driver's don't give them nothing the nurses yes

Not really the rail operators is who he is battling with the government are trying to modernise the railway and the unions don’t want any change

@@DashDriver-z1r Wrong as usual. The unions have been modernising with the rail companies for years and the dispute is about lots of changed conditions without proper consultation. They just want to introduce conditions without proper negotiation and recompense. Do your research before talking crap.

@@royboy565 nurses serve the money, pipe it incel

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They'll never come back on the show if you do that. It's incestuous but I don't know how to fix that.

You're right, they never go hard enough on MPs when they don't give a straight answer.

They only give that sort of pushback if the interviewee is in any way leftwing/for increased workers rights.

@@PadHicks I've heard that excuse from them before, and it's pretty pathetic in my opinion. When they kowtow to the politicians it's an abdication of their responsibility to hold those in power to account. The only way we can fix it is to start making more noise about journalists being soft on them. (I know what I said in my original comment is probably preaching to the converted here, but I want more people to start holding the journalists to account too)

@@PadHicks "They'll never come back on the show if you do that" - aye they will. You think they're going to shy away from the public eye and expect to win elections? If they refuse to appear on Sky News, ITV News, Channel 4 News, etc. then they're pretty much turning down any chance of ever being elected. They won't do it.

Mc Donalds is a franchise and its up to the person running it how much the workers get paid.

The unions only have 7 million members across all unions, yet there are 33 million people employed in the uk. what right do those members have when people cannot get to work, or celebrate Christmas with their families.

Unions need scrapping. There's a thing called employment laws that deal with these issues, I'm sure there's nothing they don't deal with anymore. These rail workers are on a wedge. Unions are nothing but trouble. You've got to be a complete tool to be in one. Being told to strike when you've got family to support etc. No.

@Ahgsv no its not you tool. Christmas has nothing at all to do with unions. They must have been responsible for bank holidays, Easter, my birthday and anniversary too eh. Shut up.

Yeah go Mick don't worry about the millions of people who won't get paid for not getting to work yeah good old Mick who on two hundred thousand pounds a year and train driver's who earn 60 thousand pounds a year don't give them a penny give it the nurses

Agreed! Remember Chris Grayling. Ferry fiasco. Billions of taxpayers' hard earned money wasted. Ended up with a job £100k/Yr salary for a reported 7hrs work per week, advising....the port authority! You couldn't write it! Whole system needs to change. The Tories have turbocharged corruption over their 12 year tenure and have pushed the uk backward

Shapps is only given these positions because he is happy to bareface lie for the rich.

Looking at the PM'S we've had would sure support your hypothesis. 😂😂

Really 19% is a wet dream 36% of members are happy to take the 9% just when they started getting somewhere the RMT torpedoed it with further Xmas strikes. Reform is needed why would the operators pay 10% more without anything for them

Agreed, he represents the working people very well. That has to be said even though I have absolutely no time or sympathy for any of the people going on strike.

I hope you're right about Starmer! He's one of them, he cannot be trusted

classic blairite triangulation

....which means that he has been indirectly involved in the talks... pulling strings and interfering

It’s shocking how it works but it’s tax payer money that will always ensure the private companies make profits 😂

Jeremy Kylie would have a coronary if we all did that

How about “if you won’t answer a straight yes or no question with a yes or no answer then I have to assume that the answer is …”

@@Stobb0 I think most reasonable assume that avoiding a straight answer means the actual answer is bad news for the respondent. However, if nothing else it's DAMN rude not answering.....we pay his or hers wages. Mainstream media in UK is not what it used to be.

Or, "there are millions of taxpayers watching you and waiting for your answer right now . . . ."

@@Stobb0 yup, and pick up your p45 on the way out too. they work for us. they seem to forget this.

@@johnroberts1708 yeah but this country is full of brainless idiots who will believe his BS.

Conservatives love mass immigration as its cheap labour and future consumers for capitalism. Immigration is capitalism importing an over supply of labour in, which is a race to the bottom particularly for the working class. Back in the day the Left understood this, even Bernie Sanders was anti immigration. Oligarchs love immigration.

@@evolassunglasses4673 why don't you leave your bigotry to yourself and let the working people come together

Same as the US unfortunately (and other countries to be fair). It seems like half of the world's population lack the skills to know when they are being shafted.

@Old Skool Bodybuilding Routines I hope you're right, but I fear you are very wrong.

@@evolassunglasses4673 You completely missed the point... The Tories rely on using the fear of immigration and refugees to bring their supporters together. Basically using the fear of others most people feel as a political tool.

Absolutely. Spot. On.

Spot on!

Not to mention the shareholders! Always enough money for them.

And this is union official won't do care about the millions who could not get to work and lost money ....we all know the truth about the RMT and their corrupt policies of enriching themselves at the cost of the real working men and women of this country.

Stupid, and ignorant.

That's a great idea, they should also have to wear their donors/sponsors on their jackets like F1 drivers.

@@davidlohan1212 God thats brilliant idea!

@@davidlohan1212 yep same with all the lobby groups or “think tanks” that they get on all media programmes…if they can’t show transparent funding they don’t get a platform

@@Cheebasonic and the reporters and journalists...

Don’t forget the 37 billion they stole for a so called track n trace app.

Which I'm quite happy to do!

The tories are so weird. Useless embarrassing govt

The can fucking have one then. Cya out there. Solidarity ✊️ 👊

Meet you on the barricades

It’s not the 80s anymore old man

Who are you calling ‘old man’ And yes, it’s ‘not the 80’s’ it’s a whole lot worse.

Some random man?

Seems you got it right , corruption in everything .

Are you a tory M P.?

@@royboy565 no I’m a normal working class person. Working is pointless

@@saltney17 try the noose and rickety stool!

@@browngaymethodistjesuschri1361 reported

It is still subsidising the rail companies and giving them 30 million a day when Rail unions are on strike.

They’re attempting to engineer adequate consent for the tabled anti-strike laws.