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Justin Marshall: The true meaning of the Haka, & is the All Blacks brand fading? 

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All Blacks legend Justin Marshall joins The Big Jim Show to discuss the current All Blacks team, the true meaning and origin of the Haka and the one time he had reservations about swapping his iconic black jersey.
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Комментарии : 119   
@salomonligthelm14
@salomonligthelm14 5 месяцев назад
As a South African - I love Justin Marshall. Objective, gracious, passionate.
@Jackthompson01
@Jackthompson01 5 месяцев назад
Best commentator/pundit in the world and has been for a long time
@OldSchool-om2zo
@OldSchool-om2zo 5 месяцев назад
I think that the haka is a great part of the game, long may the tradition continue 🇿🇦 🇳🇿
@timmado8441
@timmado8441 5 месяцев назад
Congrats on the wc mate so happy for you when you won it
@MRRBOKK
@MRRBOKK 5 месяцев назад
Long may the All Blacks, Springboks continue and trust me mate enjoy this winning run while it last because it ends fast 😢
@AM-dj1wr
@AM-dj1wr 5 месяцев назад
As a proud Springbok supporter. I love the Haka. The braai pauses, and we all acknowledge the challenge, the history and tradition. Old foes & old friends. 🇿🇦🤝🇳🇿... Long may it live!
@AM-dj1wr
@AM-dj1wr 5 месяцев назад
​@@MRRBOKKGoes both ways on the day mate. This is the game we love. Enjoy!
@WalterWhite-sm2dr
@WalterWhite-sm2dr 5 месяцев назад
The big Jim show big in South Africa…good job!
@mpie1014
@mpie1014 5 месяцев назад
Love Justin. He is so humble. Great pundit. Great interview Jim!
@michaelharrison5564
@michaelharrison5564 5 месяцев назад
2 lads id love to have a beer with
@georgeengelbrecht1310
@georgeengelbrecht1310 4 месяца назад
That's why we love JM, he's such a legend. And great conversationalist as is Jim. Thanks guys, everyone is proud of what you guys are doing for the game. You are our elected representatives.
@nlb741
@nlb741 4 месяца назад
WOW! Diddnt know that about the Haka! Loved the interview!
@W0nderer
@W0nderer 5 месяцев назад
Love Big Jims way with guests. Justin Marshall is an important voice in rugby who's prepared to say things which need saying.
@davidpeters3857
@davidpeters3857 5 месяцев назад
Excellent content,always love listening to Marshy
@johnlewis2972
@johnlewis2972 4 месяца назад
As a springbok supporter, the allblacks brand is iconic, and will always be.
@7884golfguru
@7884golfguru 5 месяцев назад
Awesome ❤❤❤
@Quilty2
@Quilty2 5 месяцев назад
Great listen lads 👌
@Glider34
@Glider34 5 месяцев назад
Both great players , great success after the game. Justin you need to move to Cape Town and make a move to DStv for the URC team. We in the republic love and respect you as a player and TV corespondent. Best in the world as far as I’m concerned. Good luck gents
@johnnybravo6829
@johnnybravo6829 5 месяцев назад
Great episode, loved the chat
@HotstopKid
@HotstopKid 5 месяцев назад
Yes, you need to get with Jason Mamoa. He was the one that literally set up that Fiji v AB game! haha He was talking about it on Tiktok before it was even official on the All Blacks website haha
@thesearhub2023
@thesearhub2023 5 месяцев назад
Great Podi..great info and insight... 10/10 Big Jim ...Top Man
@jimcorlett
@jimcorlett 5 месяцев назад
Brilliant podcast top man
@joeschannel246
@joeschannel246 5 месяцев назад
This is why Marshall was left out of the NZ broadcasting team for the WC. Honest and critical of the all blacks and NZ rugby not a biased cheerleader like the rest of them.
@richardscanlan3419
@richardscanlan3419 5 месяцев назад
Riubbish.
@ss2gora0
@ss2gora0 5 месяцев назад
Couldn't agree more yep
@user-nh1ig6fy9p
@user-nh1ig6fy9p 5 месяцев назад
Justin Marshall for the breakdown panel instead one of the two clowns who are part of the show.
@wilfredsmith183
@wilfredsmith183 5 месяцев назад
They won't ever hire him again, he had a fallout with them if I remember correctly. Think he had a bit much to drink
@johncraig9011
@johncraig9011 5 месяцев назад
I don't know why Sanzaa got rid of Super 12. What a stupid move. That was a great comp. Bloody Aussies
@stevee797
@stevee797 5 месяцев назад
Nice one Jim!
@JohnHirsch88
@JohnHirsch88 5 месяцев назад
How do I invest in the finest grapes of the Cape winelands, distilled to perfection in copper pots, aged in oak and blended in traditional VSOP style???
@jacqloock
@jacqloock 5 месяцев назад
🇿🇦 Didn’t know Haka origin story, even as a grumpy old man, but doesn’t quite seem to jibe with the throat-slitting of the new-fangled version.
@HeeniKeke
@HeeniKeke 5 месяцев назад
This gesture in Māori culture represents the drawing of breath, the assertion of life and the defiance of death…and even after countless explanations, the team did agree to lower the action to across the chest. Perhaps, they may remove it…as in essence portraying something not accurate to meaning would make it false. I can however understand and appreciate why many see this as not good.
@jacqloock
@jacqloock 5 месяцев назад
@@HeeniKeke Sadly the message as it is received is in such cases more important than the intention of the sender. Now if I were you guys I’d pick a seemingly innocuous action with a hardcore real meaning. Like a thumbs up that actually means “you will taste sumptuous with a nice Chianti.”
@stealthpakfa
@stealthpakfa 5 месяцев назад
Ian Foster’s reign is responsible for the All Blacks brand fading.
@MRRBOKK
@MRRBOKK 5 месяцев назад
You sure? I seem to recall the late 90s early 2000s All Blacks 5 years straight no bledisloe cup 24 years no World Cup 07 quarter final exit All Blacks brand damaged then?
@markhankin467
@markhankin467 5 месяцев назад
Every country should do something before a match..we ( eng ) could do a morris dance, the irish coukd do a jig etc....would have the same relevance..
@craigedwards3899
@craigedwards3899 5 месяцев назад
England doing the Morris dance before games would be hysterical. An Irish jig and us Scots doing the Highland fling would leave the opposition to5ally confused.. it could be advantageous to our country. Nah would it fook.
@jacqloock
@jacqloock 5 месяцев назад
For South Africa they can just switch the lights off for a minute.
@ricmorris9758
@ricmorris9758 4 месяца назад
Should be their choice. When they started making excuses for speer tackling during play out of what people did while they do their dance it became a joke.
@SVAgxlxxi
@SVAgxlxxi 5 месяцев назад
the all blacks will never fade away, they will always win and that’s the sad part.
@michaelmoynihan9591
@michaelmoynihan9591 5 месяцев назад
Allblacks are finished..😂😂😂😂
@wot4922
@wot4922 5 месяцев назад
Why would you want them to fade away. I really enjoyed players like Nonu.
@Camino2017
@Camino2017 5 месяцев назад
@@michaelmoynihan9591 I would agree that we don't have the playing stock of the past but we have the history, the passion, our competitive nature - and a coach who will get the best out of them. Teams will write them off at their peril.
@jeremyviall4168
@jeremyviall4168 5 месяцев назад
Why is it sad?
@MRRBOKK
@MRRBOKK 5 месяцев назад
@@Camino2017wtf are you talking about mate 😂 the playing stocks are there we just lost our way with the coaching abit hung on to the glory days abit to long. When South Africa were dog shit 2014-2017 were we saying they were finished? Bloody hell
@paulrynhoud7709
@paulrynhoud7709 5 месяцев назад
Another banger
@rabbitss11
@rabbitss11 4 месяца назад
Agreed, Super Rugby needs freshening up as a product but it's a real shame the only answer seems to be Saudi Arabia, politically it stinks. If only America embraced the game, if only.
@aircongosney
@aircongosney 5 месяцев назад
Cam Roigard is going to seriously hurt some rush defense.
@ianjacobs2998
@ianjacobs2998 5 месяцев назад
BRANDY!!!😊👍👍👍👍👍
@johncraig9011
@johncraig9011 5 месяцев назад
If Wayne "All Black" Barnes reffed the scrums properly the Irish would have won. The chaos at scrum time had a knock on effect on the Irish team. The fact that SA won the World Cup is a credit to the Bokke. Their had O'Keefe and Barnes, trying their best for the opposition to get the win against the Boks.
@jeremyviall4168
@jeremyviall4168 5 месяцев назад
You think Barnes is on the All Black's side?? Lol he admitted how much he disliked the All Black's and their coaches in his Autobiography, "will never shake Graham Henry's hand" etc etc. I'm always amazed when Barnes is the ref and the All blacks manage to win.
@johncraig9011
@johncraig9011 5 месяцев назад
@@jeremyviall4168 after Barnes allowed that forward pass back in the 2007 RWC against France, he's being blowing for the All Blacks
@MRRBOKK
@MRRBOKK 5 месяцев назад
He fucking red carded us mate calm down
@Camino2017
@Camino2017 5 месяцев назад
Just reinforces that people view the game through their own sides lens. There's not much love for him in NZ and from what he's said it's mutual.
@murraysmith595
@murraysmith595 3 месяца назад
Drive Straight, Not in on the Angle. Pretty simple.
@lawrenceadams1649
@lawrenceadams1649 5 месяцев назад
Great Program ,Very interested in the Ian Foster part, there are still quite a few people out there who still believe that If Ian foster had gone earlier. a with Razor in charge , a few changes in the team and a change in approach in how they were playing then they would have won the World Cup
@mikeschulz6598
@mikeschulz6598 5 месяцев назад
SA had a kicking off day against Ireland in the pool... really, SA blew that game, fortunately for SA, though.
@richardscanlan3419
@richardscanlan3419 5 месяцев назад
Does SA ever lose a game legitimately? there's always an excuse,they were simply better than you.Nothing more,nothing less.
@mikeschulz6598
@mikeschulz6598 5 месяцев назад
@richardscanlan3419 assuming you didn't see all the SA missed penalty kicks then...and yes, of course they lost legitimately, they lost that game. Don't generalise and assume all SA fans think a loss is because of other factors... yes there are those tits but most are actually rather level headed and except when a better team wins.
@richardscanlan3419
@richardscanlan3419 5 месяцев назад
I couldn't give a stuff,mate. You arrogant tossers always bleat when you lose,but i suppose that's to be expected with Erasmus on board.@@mikeschulz6598
@richardscanlan3419
@richardscanlan3419 5 месяцев назад
If,if,if. If either of Barrett or Mounga converted their kicks,you wouldn't have won the final@@mikeschulz6598
@ricmorris9758
@ricmorris9758 4 месяца назад
How do you set up a world club game oit of sides with no history with out devaluing the international game, where the money and history is?
@natnut2008
@natnut2008 5 месяцев назад
I wish there was sub chapter times...
@martmeister
@martmeister 5 месяцев назад
I thought one of the biggest problems with a global tournament was the time zones. The teams don't have enough time to acclimatize before a big game. If they do, it's because they had a week there beforehand. If you want to maximize the opportunities to play as many teams as possible when traveling, then you are on the road for weeks. Is that sustainable?
@taksanetoshi
@taksanetoshi 5 месяцев назад
I wish Jim would pronounce Haka properly.😮
@colinandrewstarling
@colinandrewstarling 5 месяцев назад
Each to their own, for me the Haka’s sell by date has expired. There was a time that I would not miss the haka. Nowadays it a good time to go the the bathroom and fill up with vuil coke before kickoff. Maybe if the opposition was allowed to challenge the haka I’d reconsider
@smartalecc
@smartalecc 5 месяцев назад
Maybe it’s your coke habit speaking bro 😂
@colinandrewstarling
@colinandrewstarling 5 месяцев назад
Vuil coke met eish… Ja
@roberthutchison1561
@roberthutchison1561 5 месяцев назад
Fiji , Tonga , Samoa also do a war dance . Has there’s expired
@MRRBOKK
@MRRBOKK 5 месяцев назад
Fuck off then mate 😂 Nobody gives a fuck what you do during the Haka. Long may it continue 🫡
@DownUnderWarboss
@DownUnderWarboss 5 месяцев назад
Enjoyed this, Marshy represented his country well. The Boks will never get thier record with the All blacks back to what it was. It stands at 62 - 40. South Africans alive today will never see parity again Guess this was filmed before England vs Ireland 2024 😂. The Rules of Rugby is the biggest issue. 32 minutes of an 80 minute game is actual rugby being played. 48 minutes of nothing.
@wilfredsmith183
@wilfredsmith183 5 месяцев назад
During the 95 world cup the average ball in play was only 25 minutes... So 32 sounds good to me. People looking at the past with rose tinted glasses
@MRRBOKK
@MRRBOKK 5 месяцев назад
It’s not the rules the issue. It’s the enforcement of them. Rules were there to structure the game not run them. NFL and NRL for example have found a very good balance in officiating, not perfect but far better then Union
@stevee797
@stevee797 5 месяцев назад
O not sure about the brandy!? Good luck..
@petethechaser7983
@petethechaser7983 3 месяца назад
The Irish game vs NZ was due to the arrogance/overconfidence of IRE, just listen to Etzebeth what more then 50% told him after the IRE vs SA poule match
@taksanetoshi
@taksanetoshi 5 месяцев назад
Don't dye your hair, bro.😮 Undignified.
@padraiglocke8844
@padraiglocke8844 5 месяцев назад
Ben Earl is the best England player I’ve seen since , Wilkinson , unbelievable talent, My Ireland missed our two most important players, Ringrose and Hugo , too predictable are backs were without them especially the injuries we got against England, young Crowley is very limited and is a massive drop off from Sexton especially in tight games, we need a better number 10, we need to blood Under 20s Pendegrast , Aki not getting picked is a absolute Joke even though he been playing with injuries , every team triple teams him , Ringrose and him are unplayable when fit , Ramos has to be on this team , The stand out players were Ben Earl and James Lowe and Gibson Park but player of the tournament was Ben Earl , sensational, wish he was Irish!!☘️
@jacquescoetzee47
@jacquescoetzee47 5 месяцев назад
Eben needs to poesklap Aquaman. You don’t disrespect our captains like that, least of all John Smit.
@camjones1106
@camjones1106 5 месяцев назад
They dont even run onto the farking ball anymore
@ishtaq
@ishtaq 5 месяцев назад
super rugby is great- real shame not many are interested
@NS-nk9hf
@NS-nk9hf 5 месяцев назад
The Haka is boring. Its being over done. Just do it during the WC. The opposition can not challenge the Haka. Get on with the game.
@kennethhammond4028
@kennethhammond4028 5 месяцев назад
Always that one fun guy at the party😂
@samuelhowell7364
@samuelhowell7364 5 месяцев назад
Your mum is not boring , she loves my Haka
@mhcronje
@mhcronje 5 месяцев назад
I agree mate. It’s turned into a circus.
@matthall6743
@matthall6743 5 месяцев назад
Are you serious? Learn it’s meaning buddy! It could be an AB’s only chance to perform it and for that reason it always means something very important to them and it’s out of respect to the other team.
@mhcronje
@mhcronje 5 месяцев назад
@@matthall6743 Yes mate. Super serious. Less theatrics and more rugby.
@pixelpotato4874
@pixelpotato4874 5 месяцев назад
Hey Justin,love your work,but quit smoking
@canecorso8251
@canecorso8251 5 месяцев назад
All blacks brand peaked at the Sonny and Ali Williams clown press conference. All down hill from there.
@keithdevine8281
@keithdevine8281 5 месяцев назад
It's disrespectful to the opposition.
@randalllederman6346
@randalllederman6346 5 месяцев назад
Visually I find it very aggressive and should not be a part of intimating the oppositions
@HeeniKeke
@HeeniKeke 5 месяцев назад
Many feel this, however the haka is our countries history, and every movement has a very deep meaning…most of which are interpreted completely opposite to what they truly mean.
@OldSchool-om2zo
@OldSchool-om2zo 5 месяцев назад
I think that the haka is a great part of the game, long may the tradition continue 🇿🇦 🇳🇿 !
@EasyTiger.01343
@EasyTiger.01343 5 месяцев назад
Marshie’s Haka explanation seems like PR waffle. In reality, everything about the modern day Haka is a massive flex and a psych up for the ABs. Even he talks about eyeballing his opponent later in the interview. Don’t get me wrong, I love the Haka, especially before a big test, but let’s not start pretending it’s actually meant to be a pantomime version of a nursery rhyme 🐮💩!!!
@Stussgurl
@Stussgurl 5 месяцев назад
Ka Mate was composed by a Ngati Toa Chief Te Rauparaha around 1800. It’s not a nursery rhyme, Te Rauparaha was at war. Ngati Toa have allowed the All Blacks to use Ka Mate but, now have Kapa o Pango, composed by Derek Lardelli (a prominent Maori artist of Ta Moko and Kapa Haka). I don’t know why the Invincibles used Ka Mate, I’m guessing a lot of them were Ngati Toa but, Haka is so much more than just an All Blacks thing, it is Maori culture.
@jdb9388
@jdb9388 5 месяцев назад
if you're not brought up in New Zealand you won't fully understand it, being Samoan i understand the tribal side to it, but it's basically a Maori tradition that's done at important events or welcoming guests out of respect, So the All Blacks express it as well
@HeeniKeke
@HeeniKeke 5 месяцев назад
I strongly suggest you watch some NZ artists who use haka and other dance moves (Stan Walker - I Am) Then you might begin to realise that the haka known in rugby is NOT meant as intimidating!
@EasyTiger.01343
@EasyTiger.01343 5 месяцев назад
@@Stussgurl yeah no mate, wake me up when you’re finished typing… 🫤🙄😐
@EasyTiger.01343
@EasyTiger.01343 5 месяцев назад
@@HeeniKeke I strongly recommend you talk to anyone who’s not a Kiwi and they’ll tell you how it looks to us outsiders. It’s a flex and it’s deliberately intimidating and that’s why everyone reacts to it the way they do. Restrict your pantomime explanation to the people in HR/PR - we’re not buying what you’re selling 🥱😂
@Hrodwulf9
@Hrodwulf9 4 месяца назад
Justin makes for a great interview, every time, especially when he's off his tits drunk / hungover during the world cup!. Lol. Thanks for an awesome interview
@Hrodwulf9
@Hrodwulf9 4 месяца назад
WRT viewership, everyone loves a good villain in a story, South African sides with their brute force physicality used to provide that for the super rugby competitions. It's New Zealands own hubris that they let that go, and we are now creating the greatest club competition once again, without New Zealand but with European teams. So, NZ can only blame themselves for their boring "exciting rugby" competition that no one is interested in watching.
@HeeniKeke
@HeeniKeke 4 месяца назад
You are delusional solely blaming New Zealand. South Africa had wanted to join European league anyway
@nickybutt9733
@nickybutt9733 5 месяцев назад
If it's not meant to intimidate why do they gesture slitting their throats?!
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