Kaetlyn Osmond on Kamila Valieva, her testing stories, and how the saga affects Olympics & skating 

lol. considering Osmond is a world figure skating champion and an Olympian, yes, she knows how drug testing work and has been through it herself multiple times.

exactly. it's sport first. no bias. love it

She is a star back in Russia. The victim. She will be fine. Only later in life will she realize what happened here

She is 15 years old. At this age there are some girls so far ahead of their age, almost young women. And there are others at this age still somehow being innocent children to whom Kamila belongs. Just take a close look at her and her eyes, and you realize you would not be surprised if she still believed in Santa Clause while her life is focused almost completely on her passionate love and joy of skating. Doping? To her knowledge? No way, never. Period.

If I think beyond Eteri's skaters finishing ahead of Kaetlyn I think the skaters from (the country we can't pronounce the name) should be today and should have been banned from Olympics and all competitions by IOC since 2016... wich leads us to today's unreal situation. Kaetlyn was and is still amazing.

@@sebastienbritten3831 I promise you, MANY more countries should be banned if you don't want systematic drugs cheating in sports. I'm no apologist for Russia but it's laughable when people think they're the only country that should be banned.

@@EightFrancssorry whataboutism is a sign of muddled thinking. Other countries can and may have or could possibly dope in the future. So then we can just stop having competitions and make you happy. Whomever the heck you are… Instead we will talk about this one that we *know* is doping. These guys are experts at it and they dope so much that they keep getting caught! It’s a different level and if you can’t see that you’re being very biased. The end I have nothing else to say to you. Because you’re being facetious and/or not thinking clearly.

@@1chienandalou Whataboutism is a meaningless term.

@@EightFrancs Only in Russia does the president enforce doping of all athletes. No other country does this.

I appreciate this nuanced and empathetic take on the situation. Especially that something beautiful has been lost and replaced with something bitter and sad and we are all worse off for it. I keep returning to that thought/feeling.

why everyone is acting and saying big words about a case which is not investigated and resolved yet?? That's why she was allowed to skate by the court because there is no clear evidence that she doped. If it was she would have been out. Until now we only have allegations. Why can't you respect the court's judgement?? Why are they for? They put Kamila sit 7 hours at the hearing. They did more investigation than anyone of you who stone this innocent girl just because you heard some news in the TV. Shame on all of you who judge somebody without waiting for the final result. How would you feel if in a few month they will reveal the truth and it will come out that somebody deliberately put something in her sample since it was sitting there for 45 days. Or simply it was a mistake on the result which happens quite often in labs. Look at covid cases, how many false negative and false positive results come out. She was by far the very best and unique which is incredible, that's why it was easy for the corrupt bad doers to know who should they slander at the olympics. Until now we have no proven facts, only nonsense accusations to feed the media and the stupid people through that. She and her team are not allowed to defend themselves publicly until the case is going on, they should be silent, however this must be valid also for the media and for the haters as well. No punishment for harassing someone who might have been proven innocent after a thorough investigation? What a shame on you who are so blind that don't see the possibility that she was accused with something she is not guilty in. Every athlete says how easily you can find yourself in this situation just by eating a poppy seed bagel or taking a pain killer or anything that might look harmless and in fact it can turn out to bring a bad test result even though they didn't take any banned drugs. Every test can bring false or misleading results. It might be the case here as well. Since nobody was as obviously good as her, no athlete was targeted deliberately for this nasty fabricated accusation only this pure talent. Shame on those who condemn her now including all those athletes who show hypocritical attitude however they know very well how easily you get there by being completely innocent. Shame on everyone who say a bad word about her until we have the final result of the court!

@Leslie Lewis, that is exactly how I feel. She has put so much hard work into where she's gotten (and likely endured quite a bit of abuse along the way), and no drugs on earth can give somebody the grace, musicality, and expressiveness she displays when she skates. She didn't need the drugs. I can't imagine what hell she's going through right now. Who can know what's really going on, but I can't help but think that the adults in her life are totally responsible. You do what your coaches tell you to do, especially if you're that young. I hope the coaches reap some real consequences this time around. This is not fair to anybody -- Kamila, her competitors.. or her audiences. It's heartbreaking.

@Heinrich Hertz Heinrich Hertz you are a smart and wise person. I am glad to see there are good people as well on this earth. I lost all my respect for tara lipinski and jhony weir and for all who badmouthed this innocent gem and spread hate talks against her before getting the final result of the case. Big shame on them, not on Kamilla.

Well said. I feel the same way. What type of that, she should not skate. This is not a first time offense for the Russians.

TMZ only stays in your body for 8-10 hours so her testing neg all the other times doesn’t mean she hasn’t been doping her entire career. It just means the one time she tested pos was when we got caught. Ofc she’s only 15 so I would direct all the blame to her coaching team

She was checked after December 25, too, all samples are clean.

Fake News...Valieva is a doper and her alibi how she got the drug is absolutely absurd. Now she is a liar and a doper. Disgusting

@@ЛюдмилаИванина-д6к still tested positive, she should be out like ALL the others that tested positive, there should be no discussion. Besides the Russians have a history of doping and should not be allowed to ever compete in the Olympics ever again. It's time to pay for cheating.

@@bobhill2057 Sick athletes who take tons of doping, but for medical reasons, are they eligible to participate? And the figure skater, who does not need doping and whose guilt has not been proven, does not have the right to do so. And age has nothing to do with it. Did it ever occur to you that WADA and the IOC screwed up and are now trying to save face?

Lol. True that. They could have eliminated her before the games and avoided this controversy that the whole games is focusing on now.

Incompetence or corruption?

RUSADA did not label the samples were for Olympic athletes and need to be expedited. But of course all of this is never gonna be their fault ever. Already the narratives that Western media broke down the innocent 15-year-old. Like doping had nothing to do with it.

@@1chienandalou It never ceases to amaze me how anything and everything can be twisted and spun, and scapegoats created out of thin air without a shred of logic or reason to support it, and people will lap it up.

Yes, it does look suspicious. But let's have a thorough investigation before pronouncing sentence. Patience, people, patience. Nobody will be deprived of a medal they deserve; an extra skater was advanced to the free skate, so even if Kamila was on an illegal substance they will still have at least 24 clean skaters perform. Too many people want to execute her before we know the results of the investigation.

@@pjohnson179 Do you honestly believe Shcherbakova and Trusova are clean when their teammate tested positive for 3 or 4 different heart medications? They have the same coach, the same doctor, the same entourage. No need to make a drawing here about what's happening in that team. So I wouldn't be so sure about the "at least 24 clean skaters" part.

@@russki1978 , это безосновательная клевета!! Никаких доказательств нет, поэтому, Вы не имеете права никого обвинять!!!

@@ИринаРоманова-ш8ь I am not accusing anyone. I say they make themselves suspicious.

@@russki1978 You are spreading rumours As well as Rodchinkov who accised Rusdian athletes of doping 54 case 51 were jidtified by the court But WADA doesnt recognise mistake?Ehy?Because they are Risdians and rimours are still being spread

I think it is because people somehow know that they will get away again with this

Me too, I don’t understand people think that the case is closed. They start yelling without knowing the facts.

It s a privilege to compete at the olympics , a privilege that is earned by training and following certain rules

you missed the point on her being a "protected person." She *is* confirmed a doper - this is not a question, there is no "if". Even Russia admits that. However, the controversy is that her being underage at 15 means she is a "protected person" and so is entitled to a lesser punishment than an adult competitor. Think of her like a juvi criminal in the justice system. The controversy is that her "lesser punishment" is actually no punishment, even though everyone including Russia agrees that she tested positive.

@@janechoy2073 thats just not true. ur confused af.

She tested dirty before f u Russian bot

100% correct. This entire mess could've been avoided if the results hadn't taken 45 days to be released (typically they take 24-72 hours).

This was one of her few tests

Who hammers this nonsense about Russia into you? What makes you think that Russian athletes are all doping?

@@ellest1485 What was the accusation based pn?Words of one man who left Rusdia How much was heaid for?By the wsy, his froend who left right after him ,works....Can you guess?Roght!He hot the job in Swerden lab :) How did he get it?A person who wad involved in that dirtu case? Do you brsy and find out the facts 54 athletes were acvused 51 of them were justified by the court Lack of evidence That is the point Did WADA recognised mistake?No!Why?Politics #

@@ЛюдмилаИванина-д6к why do you think russia is not allowed to have their flag at the Olympic? And I didn't say that all athletes in russia were doping. But I'm not surprised to see again a doping scandal from a Russian athlete.

@@MrTacasio What does this dubious result have to do with the Beijing Olympics? What do you know about Rodchenkov and his machinations? And what do you know about the fact that almost all Russian athletes allegedly accused of doping were acquitted by the European courts? And what do you know about Marit Bürgen, who was caught doping at the 2017 World Championships in Lahti, but the case was hushed up and she won four gold medals. 10 February in Beijing Ukrainian athlete was caught doping. This can be continued further. But this is different, right? So shut your mouths and don't croak.

The medication she took is banned outside of competition too, and athletes who have positive tests face suspensions for using those banned substances at any time. So it's not relevant if she tests negative NOW.

I think the issue with the old test being positive is that it would have potentially helped her train harder. I saw an interview with Meagan Duhamel where she talked about how much energy goes into training quads, and how when she and Eric were training the throw quad they could only attempt maybe 4 in one day. So having an advantage training at that level, even just having the energy and capacity to do a couple more attempts per day or a couple more program run throughs, could make a HUGE difference. It’s not just that these athletes shouldn’t be testing positive at the Olympics, it’s that they shouldn’t be testing positive EVER, during practice or competitions, for the reason I mentioned above. That being said, I do also feel terrible for Kamila, both as an athlete with so much talent and promise and as a young person who, knowingly or unknowingly, has been given substances that could be potentially dangerous for her health. I completely put the blame on her coaching team and the adults around her and they should be held accountable. I also feel bad for the other Russian athletes in the team event if they were skating clean and if they do eventually end up with the medal being taken away. At the end of the day, though, it’s not worth sacrificing the integrity of the sport and the safety of the athletes for medals.

Those are the rules. Doesn't matter if she doped five months ago, she would have been banned from the Olympics

Не хочешь, не смотри.

Serena Williams and Simone biles got exemptions for their prohibited drugs, those r facts, no one will talk about that

@@nikbau7642, than why heart attack prevention can't be deemed a therapeutic use exemption? Taking into account that 1/4 of heart attacks happen suddenly and 1/3 of heart attacks result in deaths.

Exactly. Russia has been doing stuff like this for decades, it’s nothing new. And Valieva’s case is being “investigated” by RUSADA, so you just know she won’t face any consequences for this

@@maybememory1 not true. The trial is in the CAS. And it was CAS who allowed her to participate in competition.

The best but using 3 performance enhancing drugs during training..

@@lianagi1137 2 of them are allowed, they are supplements. I would like to see the full results of all other athletes for the purpose of fairness.

Because the CHEATING RUSADA did NOT flag her sample as a priority since she was on the Olympic team! This is literally all the fault of cheating Russia!

The test came late because RUSADA hoped to sneak this one past everyone. Every olympian sample is supposed to be marked as a priority sample, but RUSADA didnt mark Valieva's sample as a priority sample, probably hoping that the test would come to late. A skater who tests unclean is supposed to be suspended bare minimum for the whole season, doesnt matter that they timed the dosages properly this time so she would test clean in this event.

All clean except the 45 days delayed result by WADA

@@juyifan7933 where did you read about it? Could you provide a link?

Shelly, if you know anything about figure skating, particularly how the RUSSIANS train their skaters, it doesn't make a difference if she's 5 or 19. It is par for the course for the Russians to drug their skaters to enhance performance. They used Valieva as a TEST case because the rules allowed her, as the Russians planned, to SKATE UNDER THE RULES, pun intended. They knew the could get away with cheating, and they have. Valieva's positive test should have BANNED her from skating, period. If she was 16, she would be out.

She used drugs regardless her age, regardless how she got them. That’s another story to get to the bottom of and the who’s and why’s and whatever’s. Bottom line drugs were in her system and whoever is responsible is just not relevant to whether she should skate. She should not. She and everyone else needs to be treated equally and even though she may not be responsible, she needs to realize whoever is responsible will not be allowed to get by with it with no repercussions. You don’t cheat and just let it slide. Someone should be held responsible and so sorry she was the one being used but rules are rules and apply to all.

Mate those drugs gave her an unfair advantage. Yeh shes a kid n its sad and the blame should 100% be on the coaches but still she should not be allowed to compete. They cheated. End of.

@@jannibal9273 She still should be OUT. If she’s there she should be held to the rules the same as anyone else. Absolutely absurd!!!!!

I never gave an option weather she should compete or not. I get what you all are saying. All i was saying is that these child athletes get all the punishment and not the adults that are responsible .How do you stop them? An adult caught cheating is on thing ,adults give kids drugs is another thing. Why are the adults not being punished. Maybe the rules need to be changed and make adults responsible then maybe things like this wouldn't happen so much if they were being held responsible. Just saying.

На каком основании ей отказываться от соревнований, в подготовке к которым она шла своим тяжелейшим трудом. Никаких доказательств её вины нет, поэтому , Ваши слова можно истолковать, как клевету на россиянку

I assire you , nrither Anna or Sasha are insulted All the rest have a chance of those girls wont compete becausr of netvous break down Is that are you aiming at?

SHE took the medication.

I have nothing against Caitlin, but the fact that Camila is her competitor, are you kidding? And Shcherbakov and Trusov? These three Russian figure skaters are so talented that they are like a bone in the throat for many.

Or maybe she believes in due process?

@@ЛюдмилаИванина-д6к I didn't mean she's competing against them. I meant she is an athlete who believes in clean competition. So Valieva's situation is a bone in her throat...and many others.

@@nuclearwessels2078 Kamila Valieva is an athlete who tested positive for a banned substance. She then lied about how it got into her system. She either knew about the doping, or she is protecting her coaches/team doctor. Either way she is in violation.

She is tainted for life, she may as well quit now because most intelligent people will always suspect that she's still doping no matter how many medals she steals from others - until she's 19 and her back is worn out and she's permanently damaged ligaments in her legs and feet.

I've done it too lol. A friend of mine was so freaked out that she couldn't go lol. We gave her about 2L of water, and had to wait ages for her to go, bless her heart (it was both our 1st time testing).

What mistake? Personally, I believe the test result was being witheld on purpose. Putin has a way of murdering people when they do not do his bidding.

@@loverofcalifornia3619 oh my gosh, brainwashed is detected

RUSADA didn’t send the samples labeled to be expedited. For athletes participating in nationals about to go to Europeans and then the Olympics? That was RUSADA not WADA. I don’t know what video is there to be made about a likely on purpose delay. We won’t ever have more facts anyway because Russia.

What's the difference between a Russian 15 year old and a Russian 16 year old? NOTHING.

She is TOTALLY responsible for what she puts in her body! If she is too young to do that and play by adult rules, she needs to go back to juniors, where children compete. You want to compete with adults, you are responsible for playing by adult rules! Can't do that, then compete with other children.

@@carrietremble agreed

So says a Russian troll. Typical.

@@jannibal9273 stop with this racist bullshit. Just because she disagrees with you and happens to be Russian doesn't mean she's a troll.

@@shiekofcool racist against what trolls?

@@Christenzilla she's calling her a "Russian troll" why is that acceptable? Its like "Jewish Troll" its a dehumanizing term and its racist. If it targets many other groups it would be considered that. Stop dehumanizing Russians. They are people too.

@@shiekofcool my comment was more about Trolls are closer to being a "race" than a country is to being a "race". You can be a certain ethnicity in any country. So I really don't see it as being "racist" per say. It's not nice to call anyone names. However it is the internet and people shall say whatever they like be it mean or nice.

Every one of them is doping. Some of you are so slow at putting two and two together. Russia can only compete under ROC because their systemic doping got exposed. 🙄 ETA: these kids are not pharmacists; ofc they are being doped by the adults around them.

It shoulld be ruined. She cheated and took the drugs!

@@loverofcalifornia3619 so are you sure this is all true. What happened to innocent until proven guilty. Her handlers control her life. If you have no compassion then we are all wrong fire us all. Society screwed up again.

It doesn't work like that, unfortunately

Go ahead and believe a lie! But stop spreading them!

I agree. None of the other Eteri girls should be allowed to compete. The doping is obviously systemic. You can't have three or four heart medications in your body by accident.

I would hesitate to cast her as a liar… #1 because she is still basically a child and #2 because when someone so young has dedicated their entire lives to winning a gold medal (and sometimes that commitment was not actually made of their own free will) because it represents a potential future that is likely far superior than they could otherwise obtain… a lie becomes a very complex concept. She could have been given pills or meds and told they were something else… she could have been given true information about the risks of what she was given but misled about what it was for. It would be more than reasonable and very natural for her to lie because she knows she made a poor decision and got caught. Think back to when you were 15 (if your old judgmental memory allows you to) or have empathy and put yourself in her shoes, under the same pressure. Get off your high throne (try not to break your hip). Also, the world is different from when you went through different phases of life… the world itself has changed, even on a daily level. Someone can inject beef with all kinds of hormones that make me pop hot on a drug test… and I could very well claim a stupid reason for exposure like “I never took anything… in fact, the only thing that is different from any random normal person is the fact that my coach feeds like burgers all day every day”…. Maybe I’m lying about knowing, maybe I’m not. *YOU* CAN’T “tell” if I’m lying because you don’t know any of the actual facts.

this drug is banned permanently, you can't take it at any time

People can and HAVE applied for exemptions based on therapeutic need all the time!

You have to prove that the person in question has a heart disease first. Has it been proven that 15 years old Valieva has a heart disease? No. If she did, why would her parents let her take up competitive sport in the first place? Would it be unethical to train a heart diseased teenager to become a sport champion?

@@thulekovish8188 If she did, she would have documentation, and not be blaming it on sharing a drink with her grandfather

They have talked to Doctors regarding this medication. They were heard saying that if she did have a heart condition that would have required this medication, that she would not have been able to participate in figure skating at this level of competition. Sorry but she should not be able to compete with a positive test, no matter what her age. She has been competing for a few years and being tested periodically, which is what past figure skaters have said they were being tested at ages of 11, 12 and 13 years old. You have other athletes who had a positive test and were denied to compete. She should not been given a pass because of age, they need to increase the age of competitors so everyone is on a even playing field. The Russians have a history of doping which is why they are competing under the ROC.

@@rachelgates509, "There are situations for which TUEs may be granted retroactively" (WADA TUE Guidelines). "The athlete has a clear diagnosed medical condition, which requires treatment using a prohibited substance or method" (TUE approval criterion). WHAT ABOUT PREVENTION?! It's a common knowledge that prevention is better than treatment, especially taking into account that the very first heart attack can cause death in a third of cases or disability.

The drug is banned because it supposedly helps with endurance. Even during practice, having a bit of extra endurance can make a big difference at that level for how hard you can train, or how much you can accomplish during a single training session. Also, I’m pretty sure the positive test was around the time of Russian Nationals, which is an important competition for qualifying for the Olympics. One could argue that if she hadn’t been doping, someone else may have made in onto the podium and qualified instead.

@@caitlinfurgal2146 figure skating as a sports is different from sports like weight lifting...as far as I know it is mostly skill based, technical with muscle memory which plays the most important part. It is wrong on the part of WADA to suddenly announce when player is already in the Olympics and has already performed. They know schedule of the winter Olympic and the samples are available in December. They should make sure that the player is not in the Olympics in the first place so that the Federation can make the necessary changes and select another player.

If she has a weak heart she should not be competing. Olympic 2 x gold champion Sergei of G&G, died of a coronary on the ice. Looking back, I wonder if he was juiced. He was from Russia.

Kamila herself admitted that she mixed up the pills with her grandfather’s medication. If she had a weak heart this whole situation would’ve been cleared already.

@@loverofcalifornia3619 I thought the same thing.

"If she has a weak heart she should not be competing" @@loverofcalifornia3619, the problem is that heart conditions are not always diagnosed in time, but can result in a sudden death. Just as was Sergei Grinkov's case.

@@olgamazlova5223 so she took heart medication before ever getting a diagnosis of heart condition from a doctor? XD

No one wanted to say what they really thought, I'm guessing 🤷🏼‍♀️

The dumbass girl was like “ just try to not think about it and push forward.” Like wtf?? No it’s unfair and immoral you should take a fkn stand about it. This just shows how their compliance can cost them medals.

Thank you for speaking so eloquently. For now, I have stopped watching the Olympics.

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She's a minor who is being fed these pills by her coaches. She is a victim. Stop it.

Of course she wants the medal. Every athlete does. Look into her coach and you will see that she is DEEPLY abusive and her girls dont last long at all

@@hanaluong2672 Me too.

Controversy damages figure skating in the long term, but makes it popular in the short term.

clearly you're too ignorant to understand the situation. It is has been PROVEN, she literally tested positive. And where's your proof about those 26 American athletes? Hmm.

She had 3 drugs in her system. 1 was banned but all 3 are proved to help endurance and blood flow.. she should be done.

Thank you for making this very important point. We have never thought about that. We will stop having any and all competitions and end all of sports from this point on.

You may insist you’re not an apologist but then what is the point of your whataboutism? There’s this one country we know is doping. So much so that they’re really good at it but they keep getting caught doing it. If you don’t see this being wrong and some thing to address you’re either being facetious or not thinking clearly. Who said “ROC” should be the only entity that should be banned? Entity cos… they’re not even participating like other countries. not even allowed to use their flag and anthem for…. Oh what was the reason? Doping! State sponsored nationwide big ass organized doping…. No sir, not every country has that. And if they do we should ban them too.

@@1chienandalou Thank you.

@@1chienandalou Whataboutism is a meaningless term.

But as she stated the young lady should not be allowed to skate. The decision to allow goes against the rules. So then trust in system is lost. Should be alright for one but not for another. No give on the rule. Now the integrity of Olympics is in question. Pretty sad.

@@donnal.padilla4336 Donna, I am against any drugs, but look, the situation is unclear. She was tested positive for a sample from Dec the 25th with the results announced with 3 weeks delay. The same lab tested her during Europeans (Jan 10-16), she was clean and result was negative, then she was tested right before the olympics February - negative and clean. There smth dark behind all of this situation.

@@vlad84mir BUT remember you must test negative every time for 60 days before an event. She failed. That's the point. Rules set for a reason.The drug is an endurance enhancement. Which gives her the edge over others competing. Enhancements are taken in sports not during an event but before to get in more practice which builds up strength to endure overall. She admitted she took drug within the days required to be drug free. Whether by error (!) or by choice it was taken. That's should have been automatic suspension. No give on the rule. Her age should not have mattered. She played hurt child when she is a very intellect talented teenager of 15 (soon to be 16) year old.

@@donnal.padilla4336 кто тебе такое сказал? Когда и где она говорила что принимала запрещённый препарат? Каким же дерьмом вас кормят ваши СМИ. У нее в анализах нашли ещё два аналогичных препарата, разрешенных, указанных в качестве принимаемых. Зачем ей принимать ещё и запрещённый, в минимальных дозах? Чтобы испортить себе допинг-пробу? Мозги хоть иногда включайте, клоуны.

We will never know which substance that Kamila and the team Russia had , KGB developed the recipes for decades to give them various advantages and and to erase their traces just before doping tests.

​@@tinavino1575 and you know all that because you are an ex KGB officer!!! This is not a bodybuilding competition!!! ... …even the intense looking amazing jumps that she does are based on inertia, angular momentum and superior technique rather than strenuous performance that may benefit from drugs… a trace amount in her system three months ago by unintentional mistake... how this would make her the great skater that she is! Give same substance to the rest and none to her, she will still perform better... she is winning with her unique talent, grace and technicality, while none of the above said can be enhanced with any medications... how hard to understand is this... i don't give a crap about Russia and her medals, i support my Canadian teams and athletes... it's just that attacking a 15 yrs old child prior to completing the investigation is not cool... if a Norwegian athlete, for example, was involved in a similar imbroglio, i would also have a sympathy and elaborate on the matter, nothing to do with any particular country, it is about the subject and how it is handled... like the foul-mouthed adam rippon calling her a "Dirty Cheater" prior to the investigation proving anything, does such profanity sound right to you too! if it does, then no point commenting further!

Why American bots ignore the truth about dope freaks Biles, Williams and Phelps🤔🤔🤔

@@alyonasinetskaya2210 Lol it's like you don't even realize this channel is for a Canadian news outlet. Also, your response is an example of the logical fallacy tu quoque, or avoiding having to answer for a criticism/wrongdoing by making your own accusation.

It’s not wrong. She’s not even denying it. Hopefully you were out of the denial phase of your grief.

Yeah, you French and Russians have always gotten along so well. Like when Napoleon tried to invade Russia, for instance. That was an expression of friendship, I hear.

@@automnejoy5308 Hahahaha 🤣🤣

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@@automnejoy5308 It's true, there has been war in Europe for centuries, against the English, against the Germans, against the Russians, against the Spaniards, ... But the Europeans have made peace. Europe is a civilization which must unite against the Chinese and the Americans. This is why the Americans are trying to divide us, we must not let them do it and remain united between European brothers. As the people of Sarayevo cried out when they were dying under American bombardments: "US GO HOME".