Kamala Harris could be "much more impressive" as President | Andrew Marr | The New Statesman 

AND elected Vice President of the United States in 2020. Joe Biden may have put her on the ticket, but WE voted for that ticket in that election. Kamala, like Joe, was elected. As I said, this is the worst New Statesman podcast ever (and I’ve watched a lot of them). Andrew Marr should apologize.

Marr inserted a disclaimer: "never been elected in an open election." His point was valid to anyone capable of critical and unemotional analysis.

It's official. Joe Biden will be the last white male Democrat president. You read it here first.

@@ittmann1? open election? 2020 was an open election. What BS

@@tps178 Marr was obviously referring to CA. Bottom of the ticket in 2020 is an appointment. Kamala dropped out of the primary before a single ballot was cast in IA or NH, after Tulsi Gabbard put an end to campaign on the debate stage, even though Kamala had raised tens of millions from the party machine. The same party machine which selected her for VP and appointed her multiple times in CA. This really is not complicated nor shocking, it's just big money politics.

I agree 👍 I wonder what they would have said if she was white

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Joe Biden has been the best thing that could have happened to America at that time as he got rid of trump. THAT is his legacy. We have to thank him for that instead of rubbishing him. Andrew Marr doesn’t know what he is talking about. The American people will vote for Harris as it is again a vote against trump if nothing else. I wish them well.

Agreed, I would extend that to say, Andrew Marr should remain silent on Politics for long time!

He needs to do the same with British Politics

I mean, it doesn't get any more basic than this about the ignorant/stupid statement that nobody has ever elected her to anything. I'm sure the people of California might have something to say about that.

Can you believe the stupidity of Marrs comments.? I love how clever all the pundits are now and last week were declaring that chaos would ensue if Joe Biden left the race. Most people haven't a clue about how politics will turn out. Politics have a life of their own

maybe we should question whether Marr is up to the job?

She was also elected as US Vice President, albeit on the ticket with Biden.

@@dadkinsonShe was never elected as VP! She was appointed by Biden! She has only ever “won” one election as DA by one vote! Her appointment to the Senate was by uncontested appointment!

Extraordinarily well put! Thank you @@

It's all Attitude ! As w!ith most people .What we want need in leaders is Common sense, and Christainty, faith and Faithfull=No corruption,Not more of the same..x

Great use of the word “gormless”.

It’s shameful - he’s propagating conspiracy theories

Absolutely agree with you,I don't understand these two.

Remember he writes for the Daily Wail. He can't have much gorm in the first place.

Pleasure [for me] at finding kindred spirits re. AM who I am inclined to admire MOST of the time. Quite how he comes to his opinions here rather baffles me!! That KH gets mildly slated is grotesque.....or is it M 'keeping in' with Harmsway & his horrid 'duly vile' rag. GGgrrhhhH!

No she hasn't

@BobbyBluejacket the constitution says no such thing.

does the commentator maybe have cognitive decline too? maybe the interviewer could have caught the error?

He's not educated

And more than that, Trump donated thousands to her campaign!!! 🤣

Think he's referring to high office. But the other roles she didn't earn, she's the Meghan Markle of californian politics.

Being elected in commiefornia is being the biggest clown in the circus the entire state is 💩 There is even a map showing the 💩

factsss

Ignorance or wilful misleading I wonder?

Marr's statement is correct. Biden was elected not Kamala. Plus all of her California elections were essentially political appointments. In practice CA is a one party state. Kamala had the backing of the Dem Party machine in CA so she did not face any real opposition in any of her primaries. This is well documented. So what Marr is saying is more nuanced, Kamala has never faced any electoral competition, save for her roll as VP, which does not count, as it is a position to which she was appointed by Biden.

In the US we elect both the President and Vice President. We could elect someone VP who is not from either party. If the Electoral College were hung and the election thrown to Congress to select the President and VP; the House of Representatives choose the President and the Senate chooses the VP

Vice President of the Unite States is an elected position. Get off of the MAGA kool-aid.

He’s pretty bad at that these days too. He genuinely believed the Tories would do well because they always do. He’s out of touch now and has been for some time.

💯. Actually pretty shocking this level of ignorance to be honest given he's supposed to be one of the UK's most preeminent political commentators. Speaking with such confidence while saying things that are demonstrably false does viewers a huge disservice. I mean it's one thing to agree to talk about a subject you know nothing about, but failure to even glance at Wikipedia beforehand is inexcuseable.

@willsmith39 your last sentence has me the most mad. One of the 1st things you see on her wiki page is all the positions she has had( and are clickable so he(or really an intern) and how she got them. I believe she won elections for all of them. Not to mention the insulting dismissal he( and to be fair bad faith actors in the US media) who don't realize the Democratic nomination is about getting party delegates. So the fact that the majority already back her, is like winning a party vote. It isn't too dissimilar to party leadership contests in the UK. The UK just doesn't have the primary part. Technically the US party conventions are like the UK.

No, he should go gardening.

IKR. Skill level of some RU-vid Channel, not major news organization

He only needs to take a quick look at Wikipedia to get the basics about Harris.

Agreed

Agreed!

The 4 years term in Senate, especially on judiciary committee, honed her skills

And has many times told us that she is able to see what may be unhindered by the past.

Its strange - i dont recognise him

Methinks that Marr was revealing unreasonable prejudice against Harris. What is the root of his dislike of her? He clearly knows very little about her or her election victories.

ditto

​@@evam4536I'm not, he lives perpetually in a left wing champagne socialist bubble.

Im not. Hes been talking b^llocks for a while now. Possibility of Alzheimer's disease. Sad really, he used to be quite interesting.

New Statesman turns its gaze across the Atlantic and finds itself immediately in amateur hour once again

as vice president she becomes speaker of the senate

@@richardmoon483 That’s not the question. Kamala Harris was a duly elected US Senator before she became Vice President.

She won the 2016 election, defeating Sanchez for the CA seat held by Barbara Boxer, who retired.

​@@ReubenJBrown I have to agree with you. I'm surprised that Andrew, whom I thought was astute, is actually this ignorant about something he opines on so often. Almost nothing he said is true. Biden is old. However, Biden is plenty capable at governing. He is considerably slower, but his cognitive ability is fine (see the NATO press conference where he answered a number of questions on a number of subjects). I am truly shocked at the daft behavior of two people I had come to respect. Let me answer another "concern." Obama hasn't "endorsed" Harris. There is a simple reason for that, geniuses. She is not the party nominee. As the only former Democratic president, non-office holder, Obama is doing what one would expect someone in this position to do: wait until she is officially the nominee to endorse her. Second, Biden, had he continued, would have won. It would have been narrower, but he would have. Even after the disastrous debate performance, much of the polling was beginning to stabilize and was largely within the margin of error. However, there can be no doubt that there was a lack of excitement in the way that the Trumpanzees display for their Chief Oompa Loompa. They will come out to vote for a wheel of brie cheese, if one can convince them that it came from between Nitwit Nero's toes. It was this and the internal polling, and some of the other polls that these two seem to be completely unaware of, that made President Biden decide to do this. In fact, it was his understanding of all of this, not someone who is in 1) cognitive and 2) decline would see. Again, I think he would have won, but the polls were too close for comfort, and the Democratic Party needed the excitement of a dynamic person like Vice-President Harris who could provide ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, what President Biden could not. And finally, one more thing, which again shows the utter ignorance of these two. If Biden were to resign, Harris would become president. There would be no vice-president. Why these two nebbishes may ask? In an instance like this, the House and Senate must approve the appointment of the vice-president. Given who controls the House, especially, this would not have happened. There would be no vice president. That means that religious zealot Mike Johnson, as speaker of the house, would be next in line to the presidency. In addition, were there a tie on a vote in the senate, there would be no vice-president to break that tie, and breaking a tie in the senate is the only actual constitutional prerogative of the vice-president. Again, for two people who purport to know something about US politics, the ignorance is palpable. I was under the impression that Andrew had at least a working knowledge of government and politics. Sadly, the words out of his mouth might as well be the dribblings of a baby barfing pablum.

I think you haven't quite understood what he was getting at.

@@davidk7262 No he was trying to demean her status as a candidate. With false information he didn't know was false.

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Totally agree. He should retire.

Cognitive decline? Or was he always so useless, just protected in the inner circle of The BBC?

@BobbyBluejacket "appointed"

He knows a lot about Mao though

I was thinking this. Surprisingly uninformed interview that misses the mark on so many things. Accusing her of being complicit in covering up Biden’s decline, for example, is so unfair. A) it’s her boss and running mate in election year, so what’s she supposed to say or do in public? B), Biden was basically only listening to Jill and Hunter by the end, so it wouldn’t have mattered much anyway

Andrew Marr is the political editor for The New Statesman and is a very experienced, well-respected former BBC journalist and broadcaster.

@@consideredwhisper Then if he isn't in cognitive decline he should realize he's outside his wheelhouse in US politics and culture.

@@pmeisman Do you really think she will beat Trump? Why?

The point is that there is no real contest in California - whoever the Democratic Party appointed gets elected

I think he means that she has been elected as the Democrat representative. No way she’s beating Trump, won’t even be close. Most dems know that.

That'd how she got where she is!

Then she went about keeping people in prison after release date for cheap labour. She's been exposed.

Sorry, but that's a false claim you're making - VP and P *can* be from the same state

@@angusgus123 No. They can be from the same state but that state’s electoral votes are forfeited, which loses the election (12th Amendment). The 12th amendment actually says ‘The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves’

​@@angusgus123That is incorrect,sir, that is why Marco Rubio would have had to move out of state if selected by Trump. The US constitution clearly says that the President and Vice president must be from different states.

@@angusgus123 guess again.

L O L it does not "clearly state" that anywhere. you couldve spent two minutes learning the actual situation but instead chose comically wrong with confidence

Marr tried to smear Harris - failed.

Might be a good use of AI - real time fact checking

That is deceit. The voting was rigged for him to be the candidate and now his cover has been blown and they know he’ll lose they’re ditching him regardless of votes.

Yeah I'm sure the people who call it fascism any time the blue team loses and election really mean it this time guys. If Trump wins again Dems will call him moderate the moment he leaves office and then say his successor is actually the real super mega Hitler and we need to go back to reasonable republicans like Trump. Just like how the media now loves Dubya who they were frothing at the mouth over 20 years ago.

dude this is a political chat show; you need to slow your roll son

@@Nicoleessellier Are you new to politics? 🤣

That claim re VP and P is bogus, sorry

Sorry you are ill-informed mr Snopes.

Cognitive decline??

Technically, it's not unconstitutional for the President and Vice President to be from the same state. The Twelfth Amendment, however, states that an elector cannot vote for both the President and Vice President if they are from the elector's own state. This means that in a close election, having both candidates from the same state could be a disadvantage.

​@@angusgus123Sorry I mean vis-à-vis the Electoral College, as indeed outlined by the person below.

I’ve heard she doesn’t wear nappies either.

Donnie can say "I've got actually giant hands" as long as he wants, in his brain his "11th finger" will remain half an inch.

I've heard she's paid her taxes, never commuted fraud or cheated on all of her partners. She's never been barred from running a charity, either.

​@@diverguy3556I've heard she's never grabbed anyone anywhere on their body too.

Wow... So ignorant

Ah she’s a snake and this is a coup.

Lol what was her excuse the last three years. I was born and raised in California, she let us down

She is good at speaking but lack new creative ideas. A good woman anyway.

@@williamding2910 Word 🥗

@@jaybee4288 a better option than Dementia Don

Are you serious? Biden has lied throughout his career. He is the worst president in history

Technically, it's not unconstitutional for the President and Vice President to be from the same state. The Twelfth Amendment, however, states that an elector cannot vote for both the President and Vice President if they are from the elector's own state. This means that in a close election, having both candidates from the same state could be a disadvantage.

Yep, I'm a big fan of Andrew Marr, but this was way off base. That was a damned shame.

@BobbyBluejacket You are right--Marr should be ashamed of his ignorance. I was quite surprised at what seems to reveal on his part an unreasonable prejudice against this woman.

Quit right. He used to be right on and sharp on facts. Not anymore!

@@tomross4599 Hoisted with his own petard

Andrew is way over 40 just saying

oh I don't know. he was effusive about investment flooding into the country now the Tories are out.

And she was elected District Attorney.

She only got elected cos she loves yellow electric school buses.......!

And Brett Kavanaugh.

It's vital that you give your head wobble and stop crying wolf any time the blue team loses an election. America would probably be an amazing place if all the people who threaten t leave it any time their team loses and election actually did leave.

Andrew’s job has never been to understand anything other than what the establishment wants and how to sell it to the plebs.

I now know that Marr is nothing but a political neophyte able to use big words and blather much but say nothing to hide the fact that he has no clue what he's talking about.

And senator

This is my general thought, let the republicans put all their eggs in one basket and then completely change the game. Removing their focus on Biden and his age and wiping out any benefit of appointing jd vance

Joe's timing...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

It's possible that Starmer sees this rebellion as a good thing long term, as some of these MPs are from the Corbyn era and a poor fit for what he wants to do. That said, not ditching the cap is disgraceful.

3 weeks in and suddenly YOU get your crystal ball out and know what Starmer will do during his tenure, the first decision he makes that you disagree with. Almost like you were sitting waiting for an excuse .... He's maintaining discipline is all. He said he'd considering dropping the cap, he's just not going to be seen to be bullied into otherwise what do you think would happen with so many parts of the country disintegrating, competing in a decimated economy? Besides which, there are people who are dying due to NHS backlogs through no fault of their own : a decent proportion of the people who want benefits for more than 2 kids were simply irresponsible and selfish. Of course absolutely there are cases where it's not their fault, but people who have like 5 kids and of the basis that other people will pay for them - people who themselves wanted to have more kids and didnt because they couldn't afford it - is deeply unfair. Nor is it good for society.