Kamogawa may not have been the best fighter in the series, but he was the strongest puncher no cap. That last punch, is the most powerful thing I have seen in Anime to this day. It just makes me tear up.
@@MrXela9 And he is specific, you just went up and talk about your opinion lol, it's your fault. He doesn't say all anime, he only said anime that he has seen. so even if you have watched an anime that has better punches, it doesn't really relevant to his comment, thus you are confusing us. boooooo
@@MrXela9 the fact that it seems real is what makes it powerful, look at characters like saitama, he is awfully strong and a punch of his open the heavens in front of him, but the fact that Kamogawa's punch can in fact happen is what makes it so terrifying, not some random anime friendship power
Masaz Bruh, Hawk wouldn't even be mentally broken. He'd be physically broken too. Eagle : ,,,or is it, that you are afraid of Kamogawa Genji? I CAN TOTALLY SEE IT! :D
@@trythis2006I just casually started watching the show without thinking but damn the show got me hooked on first 1 - 2 episodes and became my fav anime its peak no doubt
This without doubt, the most damaging punch I have ever seen in anime. The sheer force, the damage that was shown, and the sound speaks volumes. Love this scene
@@THEdudeproductions Ippo has been teased as Kamogawa's fighting style inheritor, even though Ippo is "out" of the ring its clear he will come back and in the later chapter was shown as a freaking monster. So we might have someone who punch harder than Kamogawa himself
Fun fact. That's Mamoru Miyano, the same guy that voiced Light Yagami from Death Note and Shuu Tsukiyama from Tokyo Ghoul! I couldn't believe it was him at first!
+Derek Collins HOLY SHIT!! I rewatched Tokyo ghoul a week ago and now I can actually hear the voice 😭😭 Kamogawa: ATTAAAAAACK Shuu: KANEEEEEEEEKI Wow that's amazing
When you think about it, Kamogawa really was an absolute monster... He just punched a man who is not only several weight classes above him but also could potentially be very close to the world champion level of his own weight class. He only had to punch him twice (with broken fists mind you) to completely destroy him.... Such a goddamn powerhouse this man was holy shit
That and Nekota literally danced around said world champ-class fighter How awesome would it be to have some scifi bullshit to bring both Nekota and Kamogawa to the present and spar with Ippo and co.
The fact this boxing match/ side movie was made long ago and had one of the best animations. The sakuga/ impact frames were so impressive. I can really feel the writers passion for animating this masterpiece. Both the movie and series
***** Yup. The voice actor for Nekota died before this episode came out too. He was the original voice of Korin from DBZ. So I guess it was dedicated to the both of them T_T
There is no way that dude survived after this fight. Dudes got broken ribs and punctured organs lmao. The way he slammed onto the canvas when he fell was brutal.
Fun fact: the trainer of Anderson is Miguel Zale who eventually went on to coach Bryan Hawk. So funnily enough the Takamura Hawk fight was actually Miguel Zale's second encounter with Kamogawa in boxing. I completely missed this when watching the anime somehow, only just realised it now that I'm at this point in the manga
Hitting a guy so hard that he fucking goes midair horizontal is enough to break not just your hands, but could even cause tears in ligaments in your shoulder and back from the pure burst power. Considering Kamogawa's height and overall body structure he could realistically, MAYBE do this at absolute peak condition, not just in arms, but in his legs and back and stomach, the full body works and he'd have to be fucking high off his ass on his own adrenaline. Kamogawa's training couldn't be done in the time that was shown, in that amount of time, which is acceptable for plot reasons. But this? It's possible even factoring in his opponent's weight. And the blows that Kamogawa made to crush this guy would certainly break his hands at least. At peak adrenaline, you can't even feel the pain outside of a bare feeling something's off. But an entire hand getting broken? Not sure, and not going to test it, but I can see it. Just imagine, being such an asshole that a guy decides to train so hard to break you in half in two punches. And you pissed him off so much that he's willing to break HIMSELF just to utterly destroy you. This is why it's a good idea to be polite, folks.
I love it how in the mangaprobably my favorite part of the entire series is when itagaki told kamogawa that ippo was driving logs in the side of the hill and he immediately shot up and said "IS HE DOING IT WITH HIS FISTS!!" and itagaki was like "no he had a hammer, only the worlds stupidest person would ever try and do something like that with your fist"
Ismail Abd Khalil I meant as the strongest boxer. And the first one to achieve Kamogawa's goal of a world champion boxer. Obviously, Takamura already has all those, so it is Ippo's turn now.
***** Ah, I see. Well, it'll take some time before Ippo can become the World Champion. First thing's first, he's gotta make a comeback after that recent loss.
the shear passion of kamogawa is insane , that blow to his liver , his lungs , his ribs shattered in to millions of pieces and also every other organ shaking around is truly an iron fist
kamogawa has always been one of my favourite characters and this scene.... his determination and rage just... incredible. also shout out to the absolutely perfect va's in this show and especially in this scene, the way this clip is voiced is so incredible
Can you imagine if Kamogawa had been a modern-day (Ippo's time) boxer, having access to good gym equipment and good guidance? He'd be able to be one of Japan's world title holder! Mad respect to him and Nekota.
@@kleboldklesoldyeah but imagine he actually trained his body his speed he would be a heavy ass hitter enough power to shatter your ribs with one good punch
Modern centric philosophy is overrated. The crudeness and rawness of training of the early days built tough minded and bodied boxers. Modern boxers can barely make it 12 rounds and they used to box over 20 rounds back in the day.
+ПичвајзПикчерс It's perfectly legal to kill someone in a boxing ring as long as the boxing match is sanctioned and the blows that lead to the person's demise are legal blows.
0:48 to 1:07 is pure art. The animation, emotion, dialogue, and even the ost cutting out so you hear nothing but that body shot all blended together beautifully.
Thats what i just realized, what makes this fight so intense and absolutely raw compared to previous ones, no music what so ever. Pure emotion, and it works so well, it has such a different atmosphere and i always wondered why
manliest man ever, 'if my bones shatter they where never up to the task to begin with' - 'my left fist is dead, but you no what, IVE STILL GOT ONE MORE' gotta love the mentality of kamagowa, reckless but f....ing awesome
That one was also very nice (seeing how it's my youtube profile pic- the manga version's that is), but this one sent chills down my spine. No other punch has made me do that.
It really is one of the best. It's easy to say that stronger punches were already animated, from Dragonball for example, but Hajime No Ippo stands second to none when it comes to animating something as complicated as how heavy the punches are. You see a punch in Dragonball its " he got punched hard", you see a punch in Hajime No Ippo and you feel that in your freaking body.
So he broke his ribs. Okay, that's reasonable. With 2 punches, almost like...All of them. ...Jeez, what the- And he pierced his enemies' organs with them ...That's fucking Metal dude. Tekken Kamogawa!
I was like "Okay, until now this flashback has a really cool story, let's see the fight." Welp, afterwards I had to get 3 pants and 9 towels to clean up what my...Excitement did.
+Darthy24567 no way he could be bantam weight that is unbelievable for me for his size and muscle mass he couldnt possible weight around 50kg even for ippo featherweight seems light thats the only problem ive had with this anime is that their weightclasses doesnt match their look
Something I realized is that there’s a distinct difference between Kamogawa’s Iron Fist and Ippo’s Iron Fist. Kamogawa didn’t just build his muscles by punching that log into the hill, he actually did partial training which hardened his fist, despite the time frame not being long enough to develop it. Ippo may have did it through a safer method but his fist isn’t harder for it, so if Kamogawa had continued partial training and allowed his fists to recover, his Iron Fist would actually be much much stronger than Ippo’s.
Kamogawa did partial training for his fist and yes his fist is technically the same as a karateka at this point in time. However, Ippo's training has been to strengthen his lower body to be able to do the Dempsey with little to no injury - same attack, same execution, but different context and purpose for training. Kamogawa even said that with Ippo's improved power body control and strengthened wrists, it's as if his fists were hardened as well
I know this is very "well acthucally" but in the manga Kamogawa said he wouldn't hit him in the jaw cause it was too hard and that would destroy his hand even further
What a cinematic masterpiece from the soundtrack, the dialog, the fucking bell sound when Kamogawa hits, then the sudden pauses in the music, I bet in "real time" if you will, this scene would only be 4 to 5 seconds to the audience watching the match but to us it was stretched to 2 minutes and even those 2 minutes felt like they lasted an eternity, just wow, I can't put it into words, definitely my top 5 scenes and episode in the series.
With anime involving monsters with extreme power like DragonBall Z or One Piece running rampant nowadays, it is so satisfying seeing this "normal human" produce one of the most intense punches in the entire art.
+LightningLegend12 If by normal, you mean sliding on a boxing ring floor producing car brakes and punches sounding like jet engines, then yeah it is pretty normal.
The closest we will get to that is the Berserk PS4 game lol. I don't think they will bother making a high budget Berserk series unless the damn thing blows up in popularity.
it won't happen because beserk is too adult themed and there are certain things that make it unmarketable to japanese viewers. in order to get the true uncensored and detailed story in anime form, it'd pretty much have to be an ONA series and be paid for by the fans or best case it gets picked up by amazon/netflix and they do what they did with kabeneri but hopefully much better.
Tunuper i agree with your sentiments but, its not filler, at least not entirely. They extended a few scenes to make them more substantial. Also berserk only has about 351 if i remember right. Hajime no ippo on the other hand has over 1100.
This is why Kamogawa is one of my favourite anime characters. The reason he is the way he is - living and thriving in post war Japan when they have lost everything but their will to live. Enduring hardships, risking his life to fight for what he believes and dedicating the remainder of his life to boxing. A fighter in the ring and ultimately in life. No guts no glory. What a man. What a beautiful concept.
Just a pity that nowadays anime (and other media in general) no longer produce male characters like that. Today's world is full of scared-kitten, gutless boys with less-than-questionable masculinity.
I remember reading this on the HnI reddit, but this entire arc was symbolic of the war (WWII). The title of the post is "Kamogawa's story: literal v. Literary reading". In essence, the symbolism revolves around Nekota, the heart of Japan and its optimism, Yuki, the body and hope of Japan, and Kamogawa, the Japanese unshakable spirit and willpower. As for Anderson, he represents the seemingly invincible force known as America. Just as America did not pay heed to the symbolic head of Japan and directly attacked its body with Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Anderson attacks the body of people as well. He takes out Nekota and, indirectly, Yuki. Here, Kamogawa acts as the center of Japan's "revenge story" and destroys Anderson, symbolizing America, in a similar fashion. His two punches each represent the nukes that destroyed Japan's hope and optimism. His fists represent total destruction. But this arc was just a mythological retelling, and now Kamogawa has a new role, to recover what was lost: talent and hope. Ty to u/McFaberack for this literary analysis because now I can never watch this fight without tearing up LMAO
Here is the original post bc idk if I can post links: In a previous post (speculating on a possible confrontation between Kamogawa and Hawk), it was discussed how the fight between Kamogawa and Anderson is unrealistic. Quotes from that discussion: - Kamogawa only won against Anderson because this is a manga where a character drove a log into a hill with his fist and didn't shattered every bone the arm and shoulder. - Top 5 in the world boxer that got beaten by a unknown Bantamweight These are two quotes I took as a model of the argument that that fight is not to be taken seriously as it is obviously ridiculous and over the top.While I AGREE that, if you take the fight at face value, it is very silly and unrealistic (hitting logs into a hill with your bare hands is not an effective form of training, for obvious reasons), I think it is appropriate to look at this story from a literary perspective to understand what it is talking about. First of all, the context: Coach Kamogawa is, as far as his status in the tale is concerned, a mythological figure, a founding figure for the characters. He is the head of the kamogawa gym and its founder, as well as the origin of the "dream" that Ippo and Takamura are carrying out. It is therefore evident that, when his story is told, it undergoes an abrupt change of tone from what we are used to in the rest of the story. The atmosphere becomes darker, there is an ancient nostalgia that lingers throughout the tale. This is not the original tale anymore, it is the founding myth of Hajime no Ippo, so you should read it with the eye of the myth reader. In addition to Kamogawa's personal story (and the beginning of the story of Hajime no Ippo itself), the history of Japan is added, so that the characters within it become the representatives of aspects of historical characters (specifically America and Japan). We must remember that at that time, Japan had just emerged from a war that had seen them humiliated and broken. The three protagonists represent three elements of Japan: - Nekota is the heart of Japan, he embodies optimism, hope for the future, energy and growth potential. His immense talent represents the possibility of Japan's recovery and revenge. However, Nekota's potential is shattered, he cannot realistically be realized due to brain damage. - Yuki is the body and hope of Japan. She is the potential from which new life can be born, and her possible union with Nekota or Kamogawa fills both of them with hope. She is the inspiration for Kamogawa and Nekota and brings the promise of a new generation filled with Japan's spirit (her love of sunflowers recalls the Japanese love of the sun, the path of which every Japanese follows when they look at the national flag). - Kamogawa represents the Japanese spirit, imperturbability, recklessness and willpower. His vision is more cynical (realistic?) and less optimistic than Nekota's. Having said that, the time has come to answer the central question: why did the fight between Anderson and Kamogawa HAD to go (precisely) that way, regardless of "realism" and "phisical accuracy"? Because what Kamogawa brings to the ring is all that I just mentioned above, while Anderson becomes the proxy for America. Anderson si big, strong and seems invincible. He already took down the best of Japan (Nekota) and all that remains is the sheer stubbornness of not giving up. The way in which Kamogawa defeats Anderson is meant to be a mirror of the way in which America defeated Japan. America didn't went for the head, didn't try to kill the generals, the emperor or everything that symbolizes the "head" of Japan, they dropped two bombs on the body of japan (cities and citizens). In the same fashion, Kamogawa's mission is to drop two "bombs" back on Anderson's (America's) body, leaving him broken just as America broke Japan before. Anderson becomes the sacrificial lamb of Japan's desire for revenge, he is directly responsible of Japan's youth defeat (Nekota) and indirectly responsible (as an american military) of the poisoning of Japan's land (Yuki). At the end, once revenge is accomplished, both Japan's talent and hope (Nekota and Yuki) must disappear (they go up the mountain, another mythical trope that i won't explain this time XD), since Japan has lost both his potential and his hope for the future. The only one that remains is Kamogawa, that now that the revenge is done, is left with a new purpose, to recover what was lost: talent and hope. And that's why I think that you souldn't read this particular arc in the same way you read the others: it's a memory, it's a myth and it has a narrative structure that requires an improbable outcome (as is Japan beating America militaty wise). I hope that my rambling was clear enough (english is not my native language) and I hope that you enjoyed it! If you have other ideas or perspectives, please share them as I will be delighted to read them!
Ah yes the spirit of the world war 2 Japanese. Raping and murdering innocent people in Korea and China and too this day refuse to acknowledge forcing Korean women to perform sexual slavery for their soldiers. You know to the point NBC had to offer an apology when Koreans were pissed because their analyst at the Olympics said Japan contributed to Korea. It’s hilarious how Japan brushes their massacres under the rug and whine and cry about being occupied. But I guess that’s to be expected when your education system literally denies the atrocities everyone else knows you committed. I’d love to see the manga about the Japanese rape of Nanking. But we’ll never see that because the Japanese to this day deny they did anything 🤣 They’ll keep crying about being occupied though. I know one thing. I’ll sure never go to war if China invaded Japan. They can fight that one on their own and write a manga about it. If any of them are left to write manga 😂
With the caviat that this story speaks about a tremendously terrible, dishonorable with prisoners and their own young conscripts, criminal, abusive, in a way cowardly etc dictatorial country like Japan, its territories and its state, then the soviet regime who truly would have brought, like with anybody they occupied, hell to Japan, its population and territory (and also dethroned the emperor and not respected the imperial institution or anything else of Japan) which, luckily for Asia, Japan and everybody else in the world, could never act on its plans because the US reached first and everything was solved there and then the same America that itself literally made Imperial Japan, the losing side in its conquest goals (the same Japan who would've completely annihilated its own population first, besides the entirety of Asia and hundreds of thousands of american soldiers, had the war continued beyond 1945 and had the war not seen the nuclear bombs put to use by Truman), recovered, supported, improved, new, on the scene again and many other things, and that was that before going away and leaving everything to the japanese governments with the given resources, tools and foundations. So much for the evil occupiers. One could say, ''not exactly'' like a guy like Anderson and everything that he embodies... It's good and greatly put as well, it's all great storytelling - besides Kamogawa and the fighting events being so great already - and it's a nice homer story by the author, but the real context and the real pre-1946 Japan should be had in mind when approaching this part of Hajime no Ippo. Taniguchi and Mizuki for example, but Miyazaki, Tezuka, (in a way) Kurosawa and others as well, but especially those who lived those periods and had to even fight on the front or who were particularly sensible and in contact with that recent past although they weren't still born, would know very well how to feel about this portrayal of that past post-1920s Japan, and not the current or medieval or ancient Japan but that specific Japan and the postwar decade. And with what eye they should watch and take this. Like many others who suffered who were themselves japanese and acting parties, like many japanese men, women and households (besides the perpetrators, nobody ever felt guilt or even regretted anything, nobody was ever a penitent there, just like their nazi counterparts; like the head jailer of Zamperini or the high command).
What kind of monstrous strength did Kamogawa build to tear through his internals AND leave an indented mark of his fist, all with the damn thumb included? HOLY SHIT, GENJI! You're a monster and we love you.
This is my 2nd most favorite animated fight on Hajime no Ippo the intensity of the match and how well the animation conveyed the pain, muscle injuries and overall pacing is really top notch.
Kamogawa was part of the Pearl Harbour attack. He punched into the american ships to sink them. No one ever knew because it was classified by americans, afraid of the man with Tekken fists.
I think the best thing about the Tekken is...the sound of it. Hajime No Ippo's sound design is quietly (ironically enough lol) the most brilliant part of it's production; jet engine noises as Ippo flies across the ring, a sharp scythe scraping the air as Mashiba moves his arm back and forth, every punch and move in this anime is sold thanks to how monstrously powerful they sound. But the Tekken is something else. Each time before it hits, everything else goes completely quiet, so the actual impact practically BOOMS as it connects. And what an impact it is, a thunderously loud CLANG of crushed metal, like the opponent was hit with a steel hammer and not a simple fist. And shortly after an utter COCOPHONY of rushing winds and cracking stone as Anderson's body just collapses under the sheer power of the attack. A storm louder then anything else in the series, utterly overwhelming and terrifying from both directions. Fitting for a move that ends the career of two world class boxers at the same time. The only punch that comes close to this level of auditory power is Takamura's final punch against Hawk, but even that literally stadium shaking move sounds like a whisper next to the earth shattering Tekken. Fucking SHIT I love this show.
Not hard to out do a joke of an anime like Dragon Ball Super that ends up shitting on anything true Dragon Ball fans loved and tarnishing the true spirit of the franchise.
Bebolife12345 How? It's not as terrible as people make it out to be. If Dragon Ball was a 9.5/10 then DBS would be a 7.5 imo. Why do you think it's the equivalent of Shippuden?
***** Equivalent to Shippuden isn't exactly a milestone that is worth writing home about my friend.. To be honest I'd say saying it's equivalent to even Shippuden is being excessively generous.
One of the most amazing examples of perfect set-up for a scene, abuse of the audience's anticipation, and incredible pay-off, where the music, direction, animation and voice-acting all come together to make you suffocate yourself, all in 2 minutes. And I haven't even gotten to season 3 yet lmao
The cruel reality is that after the first attempted murder hit landed the fight was decided. If Anderson guarded his body he would have been instantly killed by that... Goddamn I can't even call it a punch that's how vicious it was. If that hit anyone in the face it's an immediate vegetative state for you doesn't matter if your Ippo or Takamura or whoever else this manga decides to put as the epitome of toughness and spirit. Work of Art, not just this manga but the anime truly does it justice. Godly voice acting just makes it more enjoyable
@@rafaeltiburcio6624 actually, Muhammad Ali tanked "big" George Foreman's hellish body blows for 7 rounds while laying on the ropes, making him punch himself out and knocking him out short after. He had a chin made of titanium to compensate for his loss of speed after Vietnam.
@@ricehair8807 really? a plot? kamogawa punch an iron wood for upcoming fight to anderson and he hasnt even punch once until anderson gave him an opening it's really a suicidal strategy from kamogawa eating anderson punch so that he can body blow him.
holy shit this scene is so amazing, at the start he music is so freaking perfect for it. but what seals it for me is Kamogawa's VA at 0:21 such a powerful performance.
this short scene sums up, why i love this anime -fucking epic moments, i always get goose bumps -fantastic voice acting - incredible soundtracks (the Finisher ost and the weight of my pride are sooooo awesome, i listen to them, while i train -good animation ( in particular this fight/backstory-arc has the best animation) -great choreography (-great comedy and the best character of all time: Takamura)
1:42 Authentic signature by Kamogawa. Printed in high-def through a boxing glove on muscular canvas. A priceless piece of work, two have ever been created, but all on the same muscular canvas. Auction of this work is currently impossible
Season 2 had the best animation with this season a bit in the back. Kinda wish this arc was longer though, Nekota fighting made me appreciate Out boxers and now Itagaki is turning into my favorite potentials right now.
Theres something about the beginning of this particular scene, where you feel his determination when he says "Open your eyes" and "Attack", it always makes me start to tear up, you feel his emotion and his willpower, to defeat Anderson, for the sake of his best friend and Japan as a whole. Both of the punches he lands on Anderson carry his rage for his best friend and his pride as a Japanese behind them, and its beautiful.
on this day Anderson lost many things. his title, his pride, his ribs, internal organs, the ability to NOT piss and shit blood. But out of all the things he'll never get back, the crushed soul that has been scattered into powder will stick with him just the way the fist marks are branded onto what used to be his gut
@@mazlanyunus6689 i think og was the best when it comes to animation you can feel the impact more without shaking the screen too much. also more movements.i mean new challenger was a bit stiff compared to og
I've never seen another anime where they put so much emphasis on a character's strikes. Some animes today focus more on fast pace battles at almost blinding speeds with almost no weight on their attacks at all.
This show develops so fucking well and I legitimately love and got excited for the next fight. Ive avoided the Manga for years waiting on this year's new anime to not spoil a fight. Best anime ever imo. Just men being men. Love the comrade between the 4 guys of the gym. Men really are like that.
