Kane Cornes calls for send-off rule after Tom Stewart's 'sickening' hit - Sunday Footy Show 

Yep. Local footy does it or use too

Not only that but why not implement a flagrant foul like the NBA. Get 2 Flagrants you’re off. The severity of incident to warrant a flagrant would have to be along the lines of immediate reports by umpires or when you cause significant harm to another player.

I just don't trust the AFL to get it right 100% of the time. If a send off is only ever applied when there a clear closed fist punch that sends a player off the ground then perhaps it can work, but otherwise no.

And what happens when an umpire makes a mistake and sent off a guy where video evidence shows later on they are not guilty? How many times has an empire reported somebody only to see the player proved innocent later on in the week with video evidence? Imagine an umpire sends off the most influential player on the ground only for the video to show that the bump was fair and in the shoulder and the player actually hits his head on the ground. You’ve penalised a whole team and all their supporters because an umpire couldn’t wait for the match review panel that has the benefit of slow motion and replay. Everybody wants to rule is left alone until they get emotionally attached to something and then they want the AFL to chop away at the way the games been forever. Every team has had a player knocked out by the opposition. And every team has had a player that has done something wrong to the opposition. Sending players off means decisions will be made when emotions are high. Umpires shouldn’t even make reports any more. Wait till cooler heads prevail With the benefit of video evidence. And Kane corns is a tool saying that the whole game write it on that bump. Yes it made a difference but who knows what else could’ve happened.

@@JaxTheGat go to the video before ump makes a decision. You have to be 100 % sure .

Plus a suspension!

Yes and a rule like that should’ve been in place long ago, why the sudden uproar now?

I agree with this

That rule can be rorted by clubs.

Fantastic idea to start with, and then 6 weeks.

Which Cameron and which Andrews?

@@user-dj2xn Jeremy and Harris

@@deanoss777 K thanks

Cameron has shrugged off Sheedy's degenerate influence and thus cleaned up his play since moving to Geelong. At GWS, some players are still displaying the Irishman's influence, though Toby seems to have exercised some restraint after his long suspension. However, he has no remorse; so expect him to boot someone in the face in the near future.

What about Alastair Lynch hitting Shane Wakelin in the 2003 GF? Should have got 12 weeks for that garbage!

@@garynewton1263 that was his last game mate & both of the Wakelin brothers were as guilty as Alistair. Not condoning it but the Wakelin's were not obvious on camera but just as bad. Just the same I agree they both should've been sent off.

No excuse for Barry, but Staker was pushing it too far, with the constant niggling. Thugs like Byron Pickett and Toby Green have no excuse.

Maybe, maybe not

what ifs not reality. theres a million variables that can happen

Even if Prestia went on to have an average game, he would’ve been worth 1 extra goal. Stewart won the game for Geelong in that moment

Come on. The ex Gold Coast player isn’t that good. Obviously overrated

That cost them the game..Richmond very very unlucky. Richmond had the won the game. Umpires gave Geelong the match. Disgraceful 🤔😤

Did Scott say let him off?

@@macca2342 no he didn't obviously a Richmond supporter.

@@macca2342 doesn't matter what he said. Get the send off rule in. Can you imagine all the other sports authorities laughing at that situation

@@mickirving6779 So let's change the rules because snowflakes are upset that other sports authorities might laugh at us.

@@mickirving6779 interesting, I’m not saying you’re right or wrong but why hasn’t there be the same uproar over incidents like this until now when it happens to a Richmond player?

There has also been times when soccer players have been sent off when doing nothing wrong. You would be the first to cry about that aswell

If by insightful you mean idiotic then I totally agree.

@@stevelozevski8151 Soccer referees are sometimes blind and/or corrupt. As we also are aware, soccer players love to fake injuries. In this instance, they were discussing for the action to be taken upstairs for a video review for clarification of the hit. I think this is much fairer than a referee on the field judging the hit as it is in soccer.

The inherent problem still exists, in that, when a player is banned for an act vs 1 team, they don't miss the next matches vs that team, they miss them vs potentially other teams vying for the league table spot. If something like this is introduced ( and this is where football needs to improve too) the bans should only mean that player can't play vs that team again. If said player retires or moves clubs. The a fining the club option exists if retired or the ban stays with that player at the new team

Would lead to slot of flopping like soccer if this was a thing

Agreed 100%

Well said. But AFL footy has always been a quasi-gladiator sport, and good number of fans are still bloodthirsty.

Yes what you're saying is correct. So send off the offender. However a team might play in a Grand Final and choose their worst player to injure the opposition's best player, when sent off they haven't really lost out.

@@TheBinaryWolf bloodthirsty? Not me. I just want to see one on one marking, low direct kicking, a slower pace and less players crowding over the ball.

Orrrrr I literally cripple ALL of your lads with my lads. We all play on. No one is punished. We play the game uncontested. Sub-Zero wins! Flawless victory!

@@garynewton1263 That would be an improvement. But I enjoy seeing a pack mark, now often impossible with all the players grouped.

I think that take a player off the bench is a great idea.

That would be okay if we could trust the umpires on the spot interpretation would be consistent but we know that doesn’t happen. Too costly to have someone sent off incorrectly. They get their punishment over the following weeks determined in a logical and thought through process rather than in the heat of the moment.

@@bernierossi8062 and like Kane said, how does that help Richmond during the game? It doesn’t it negatively impacts them while the offending player can just carry on and get BoG, and even win them the game? How does that help Richmond get back into the 8 if that’s the last game of the H&A season?

@@russdy1982 no system is perfect, if you send a player off incorrectly you hurt that sides chances. Richmond has had their fair share of good calls over the years and some tough ones too, just like all sides. If they miss the 8 it won’t be because of this alone. Not any different to losing* a player through injury early in a game. The best sides find a way to cope, all part of the rich tapestry

@@bernierossi8062 Stewart sent Prestia off incorrectly

@@russdy1982 Happens rarely so no need for a knee jerk reaction.

Perhaps a statue outside Kardinia Park ?

@@paulweston285 still trolling champ

Cotchin would've won it easily in the 2017 prelim

@@samuelx5466 He probably doesn't play well enough after he takes his opponent's head off.

Time to hire some bush league thugs to do these brave dog acts each week.

Another Genius on our hands 🙄

Lol if the shoe was on the other foot . Reminds me of Geelong's dog efforts in the 89 grand final

@@mathewkelly9968 Literally 3 weeks ago against the dogs Stewart went off with concussion in the first quarter and still got the job done, didn’t hear anyone screaming then.

It definitely went a great way in costing Richmond the game! Not only was the play not stopped and we were one player down and a goal was kicked from the side of the ground the player was down…but we lose one of our most influential players. Tom Stewart is a great player but yeah definitely agree with Kane about potential match day sanctions

Should have been a runaway victory for Richmond ' but halted by the umpires yet again. No sin bin or send off for the Geelong player' interesting. Got out of jail cats. Anyone who thinks umpires don't decide games' need their brain 🧠 rewired.

Oh please Paul, cry on my other shoulder !!...

Ahaha facts remember Scotty boy losing the plot not too long ago

@@22ab8 Do you have one champ? Mup;pet.

@@paulmatters2641 Golly Paul, is that your bias showing ??...

@@22ab8 I support the Swans you muppet.

Same with Dimma when Shiel got concussed in the 2017 PF at what stage did he say anything about Shiels welfare or Jed Lamb when Houli did it against Carlton in the same year or even going back further to when Vickery did it to Dean Cox? all Dimma said was “I didn’t see it” or defends his players. Typical, but all coaches defend their players. It shouldn’t be up to the coaches it’s up to the 2 players that were involved and do it that way not get everyone involved. Which Stewart did he did the right thing he got Prestias number called him said his apology checked up on him and Prestia has forgiven him now the tribunal will make the final call and we get on with it, this isn’t the first time someone has done this and it probably isn’t the last time we see it

It’s not ludicrous though. If there was a sin bin and Stewart was out for the rest of the match then the Cats lose, that’s just how well he played. Even then if Prestia doesn’t get KO’ed he normally averages around 5 score involvements a game in a game decided by 3 points that makes a difference. Does it mean they’d have definitely won? Not at all but considering they lost by just 3 points without him then there’s a fairly decent chance they win with him. There’s also the fact play wasn’t stopped when Prestia was coming off which meant Richmond were down a player for that period and it did end up with Geelong getting a goal that they otherwise wouldn’t have if play was stopped properly. Good teams also don’t cough up large leads like the cats did, so trying to imply Richmond aren’t good because they let it slip very much applies to Geelong in the exact same way. Fact is good teams will also find a way back which BOTH teams did. But the cats got very lucky, an undeserved goal when play should have been stopped and they took Prestia out early who very well could have been the difference in such a close game. He’s not no Dusty at his peak but Prestia has been probably their best player this year and his absence does make a difference. Just as Stewart’s would have if the AFL had a sin bin.

What a goofy comment 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I think he’s implying that Prestia being Richmond’s most damaging midfielder would’ve at least made a difference in a 3 point loss. He’s extremely important to the way they play

Bizarre take..

@@cliffbooth4826 me or them?

Them!!! they're acting like the most admirable person in all this is tom stewart lol!!

Nobody is crediting him

@@user-dj2xn they praise the mental toughness to play a good game after doing that to someone.

Second time? Wtf are u on about he’s never done it

@@user-dj2xn early rounds this year he was suspended for a high hit and was "out of character" cat supporters have such a short memory

@@Snow-wu2rt he never got suspended wtf are u talking about

Sniper like his mate Selwood. Fk the cats

Second time? Can you enlighten us please the first time he did it

A free kick was paid.

@@redbuoy9496Yes it was Graham's free however unless they call for a stretcher the game continues and even if it's Prestia's kick someone else takes it, Richmond medical staff's fault sorry.

@@redbuoy9496 My point is it's irrelevant as someone would have taken his kick (see it all the time), Richmond medical staff needed to call for the stretcher to stop the game.

@@redbuoy9496 so the umpire reported him on the spot but the free kick wasn't paid to Prestia? That doesn't make sense now does it.

play wasnt stopped so stengle could kick another free goal

Yet still beat you in your own back yard, probably should’ve won by a lot more too…

there are no weak footballers. get out there and try it

Yeah bring in more rules when they can't get the ones they have right. Great idea

@@stevelozevski8151 the amount of rules isn’t the problem, it’s the fact most of them aren’t black and white. Never adapt or change the game for the better, great idea.

@@jamescosgrove6680 you've got it when you said black or white. Just add another grey to the game.

@@jamescosgrove6680 maybe netball would be a better sport for you to watch

@@stevelozevski8151 haha I’m sorry I hurt you

Lloyd is a pea brain. We didn''t have electricity either 150 years ago.

Yes, and in the good old bad old days someone from Richmond may have tried the same on Stewart.. that's the difference nowdays.. what if prestia has headaches for 4 or 5 weeks.. they want to stop head knocks as much as possible and unfortunately Aussie rules is a game where you will get head knocks in normal play..

Prestia was having a mare, Cats would have won by more if this incident never happened.

Should've been brought in years ago.. he's right, there's only 4 incidents that warrant 1 in the last few years Gaff on Brayshaw The port defender on the WC forward Cameron on Andrews Dirty Tom on Dion

@@cliffbooth4826 Gaff on Brayshaw was completely fair by Gaff

@@codeword9397 if you're gonna troll, be better than that

The Port defender on the Eagles forward was Tom Jonas on, coincidentally, Andrew Gaff. And I agree. as Kane says, it's for the serious, deliberate cases. Of which there aren't many but they do happen

@@cliffbooth4826 don’t call him dirty Tom acting like he has a past history of violence

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Why bump a player or shoulder a player anyway? If you are unable to tackle the player with the ball either you are unskilled or too slow and you don't deserve to be playing if you can't try to dis-possess the opposition player. It's "Football" not "UFC fighting".

@@garynewton1263And why do you think The UFC is so popular and gaining fans?While the AFL try and pretend they can solve the world's problems with a special round or different headband round every second week just to appease the sooks as more and more fans leave to watch the state leagues and local footy comps. BTW, the bump is still legal.

@@jimmyriddle5246 One point: Not everybody has a view of wanting to see barbaric males attacking each other. I just want to see the skills and athleticism side of the game. Maybe if you played AFL and had your jaw broken or teeth knocked out and was stuck lying at home in pain you might think differently?

Nope, 8 weeks minimum!

Spot on, they had their chances.

I’d say 4 and this is coming from a Geelong fan

Skill errors happen in sport. But taking out a pivotal player in a team in a manner that’s outside the rules is not “fair”. So yes you’d say that act alone cost Richmond the game in a 3 point loss

@@Francescojg there are so many different variables that could alter the outcome of the game, for all we know, Prestia could’ve tore his ACL right after the play he got bumped. Can’t say it cost them the game when they had their chances

@@user-dj2xn You can't make the assumption that a player tears an ACL, thats the most unlikely of scenarios. The most logical assumption is that the game continues and Prestia has at least SOME positive impact for Richmond. You certainly don't assume that any Geelong players are going into a game to do their ACLs?

Protecting AFL players from unnecessary head injuries isn’t making it a “shadow” Sure head clashes happen by accident during the game but theres no reason careless, behind the play hits should be ignored. Only need to take a look at what happened to Shane Tuck and Danny Frawley to remember what head injuries can do to someone over a career. If Prestia was your dad/brother/son you’d be saying the opposite Gonna be sad to see how many of these blokes get degenerative brain disease, chronic depression and mood disorders in 20 years time bc people like you think they don’t deserve to be safe on the field and that the players who do these hits shouldn’t be punished Being a fossil who cries about “back in my day footy was tough” is far more annoying than trying to protect players health with rule changes, trust me

That was a little different to this.

Matthew Lloyd 2009 v hawks

Definitely is needed. They don’t even suspend people in finals though, remember when Cotchin KO’d Dylan Shiel and didn’t get a week because it would be sad if he missed the grand final?

already happened many times in VFL gf's

5 weeks! come off it. its a football play to bump. sometimes u get someone high. it happens

Spoken like someone who has never played the game and has only ever been in the peanut gallery

​@@billyhoyle2780 to be fair he ran past the ball and got him flush in the head, if he got him side on it the shoulder it would of been fine

@@mattcarroll3469 that’s the point. He was probably going for the shoulder and missed… hence the comment above about being a footballl play and mistakes happen.

@@KaHOPE91 I wouldn't say mistake he intended to iron him out but it was poor execution,

He’ll get 3 or 4. If it gets referred to the tribunal it’s a 4 week minimum

Has to be 4 otherwise it will just be ridiculous, they've shocked me before though lol

It wouldn’t be the first time the AFL have failed to deliver a suspension which lines up with the action. It’s kind of a sad state of affairs when we all think he should get four weeks minimum but can’t say for sure that he actually will.

5 weeks would be absolutely scandalous and totally over the top, Cats would 100% appeal that and win. 3 weeks is deserved that’s it, get on with it.

Bailey Smith got two weeks for a head-butt which caused no serious injury, you’re telling me Stuart deserves an extra week and nothing more for going past the football to take out Prestia, knocked him out cold, and now he’s only going to get one more week then Prestia will miss under concussion protocols? Actually that’s exactly what’s going to happen because the AFL don’t take concussion seriously.

Well said the good old suspension is good enough

What if it happens in the last quarter ?

Very well said 👏

Another great comment.

Exactly right. Bailey Smith should’ve gotten 2 years for his drugs. Rioli did.

@@gotimeafl2022 didn't Rioli try to use someone else's urine to hide his drug use? Or something like that?

@@richardbehan8118 Yeah and he took drugs too.

😂😂 you're kidding yourself Liz

Name all these times. If it's so common, it shouldn't be a problem Karen.

Can you name a single worse incident? I know you said MANY, but can you name just 1???

Kickking Taylor walker? The head tackle Zac Jones? Eye gouging Mumford? All apart of the game, same as tackles and bumps. It takes all characters to play this game, and that's why we love it. No sin bin let the tribunal look at it after the game

100% with you about the send off rule this isn’t soccer, but as a cats fan and didn’t like what Stewart did and he’s manned up I’d say 3-4 is fair mostly 4

Yep these actions remove an opposition player from the game so why shouldn't the culprit be binned

You'd get a Charging and illegal hit to head major and sent off. Hockey has better rules to punish unsportsmanlike conduct.

@@lzrdwzrd999 yeh but in hockey you can actually punch on

Settle down. It looks worse in slow motion. 3 weeks is fair, 4 weeks is too much just for a bump.

Win lose or draw they never change

Tom Stewart is no fake,..he made a huge mistake and will pay for it, end of argument.

Has no other player ever had a high hit? Richmond players all angels🤦‍♂️ the over reaction here is laughable!

ur a tool bro. it was a bad choice. he wont play for a few weeks. get over it

He made a mistake, doesn’t mean he’s a flog.

Lynch the flog would have more send offs then anyone

Well said

Sing hallelujah 👏👏👏🙌🙌

More so him than Brown.

And Lloyd did a bump on Sewell too in 2009

Some do. Geelong did it in the 1989 GF when Mark Bos targeted Dermot Brereton. If only they had a red card system back then.

@@garynewton1263 & if I correctly recall - Ablett went after Dipper in the same match, Dipper almost dying in hospital as a result. Maybe it's unfair, but I remember in school when I used to listen to coaches tell players to get certain opposition players. Hopefully it's a thing of the past but you never know...

@@kufujitsu Yes I remember well. I just don't see the point of missing games because you hit another player. You're out there to display footy skills.

Softcock!!!!

And tigers never had a thug player? Yeah ok

Richmond has a team full of flogs mate, stop being delusional

@@user-dj2xn Not even a Richmond fan but doesn't change the fact they were robbed lady. Shades of Dangerflog knocking out Vlastuin in 2020. Stop defending a thug and making excuses for him. Stewart is cooked at the tribunal.

@@Auzziebro1990 yeah they have some. Doesn't make this any better. Stop defending a thug and a coward just because he plays for your club.

😂😂

Because the other sports aren't really contact sports (other than ice hockey and rugby) and I doubt the players in those sports run 16km a game.

@@richardbehan8118 What does that have to do with anything 😂

@@richardbehan8118 What do you thing constitutes a contact sport then?

@@hamishmc2453 what does that have to do with anything? Well the sin bin system works in a way that you are a player short for the rest of the game. That's what that has to do with it dumb dumb

Stewart is way out of order. The only contact that should be allowed is tackling. If your not intending to tackle a player with the ball then you ain't got no right to hit them at all. It's gutless. If Prestia was running towards Stewart with the ball Stewart either needs to tackle Prestia or avoid hitting him. Simple. If you ain't gonna tackle the player you have no right to approach him in the first place. Just being an obstacle on the field is dumb and pointless in the aim of winning the game. Stewart should be suspended for at least 8 weeks!

@@garynewton1263 “The only contact that should be allowed is tackling”. If that’s the case ban the bump all together. Pretty hard to do that tho in a contact sport where players bump into each other all game. Stewart 4 week ban is steep, but fair. People calling for red card in this case is plain stupid.

@@buffalosoulja3666 Well if players are going to get super aggressive towards opposition players and collect them with an elbow or knee and cause serious injury they should be banned for long periods. No need for it. Like I said, If you can't tackle the player who has the ball then you ain't a skilled player and maybe you should be on the field? It's a low act. And it's not what I want to watch on TV.

Geelong has been amazingly successful for a long period of time now. Never a cellar dweller, despite never receiving high draft picks. More importantly, Geelong, in the 40+ years that I've followed them, have never succumbed to playing boring, negative football. They might not always win, but they know how to play the game the right way.

Why? when a suspension is fair enough, we don’t need soccer or rugby rules in the game too

Spot on.

It makes you laugh doesn’t it

Ahhhhh Geelong not being allowed to play in Geelong is no different from saying Melbourne cannot play in Melbourne. You do have a map somewhere surely.

If all of the other Victorian based teams hadn't ditched their suburban fortresses decades ago to chase bigger crowds and bigger dollars, maybe those teams would still have their own ground and the home ground advantage that goes with it that Geelong enjoys the luxury of.

Correct bro 100%.

What teams do Geelong play against in Geelong? Sydney, Fremantle, West Coast, Gold Coast, GWS, Brisbane, Adelaide. Why play at a stadium that seats 60k people when you won't get more than 30k?

This might be the stupidest comment in history

Is that the incident where buddy took edwards out a few years back?

And fat as well

Good one mate how many games do you want to go back in time for and apply the same logic?

17 on field hahaha what ever

@Matt I mean I don’t agree with 17 on the field. But that’s what Richmond had to deal with for a minute or 2 while Prestia was coming off because okay didn’t stop. They were down a player for that period and there ended up being a goal to Geelong in that period. That’s not right, it’s not Geelong’s fault that the umpires weren’t on the ball but in a game decided by less than a kick it has an impact. Don’t get me wrong the Tigers had there chances and didn’t get the job done. But 1 sketchy goal in a game decided by 3 points is gonna ruffle feathers.

@@Cliffy1616 the umpires would have stopped the game if the stretcher was called for. The Tigers have no one to blame but themselves.

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ stupid is as stupid does