I kept seeing the same thing as I saw it smack those targets. Can you imagine getting nailed by a few hundred of these bastards coming out of an MG42!? Fuuuuuck that.
Intel indicates that Karl is running his Norweigian Kar98k-F2 + Zf41 in a match this week and will have a video on it running short range on his channel... soon.
I had a hard cover book on the K98K once until I gave it to a friend of mine for his K98K. On the chapter on scopes and accessories. It showed field armorers mounting the K98K on the Laffette machinegun tripod. The rifle was mounted with a vise to the fore end and the same with the rear butt stock. The legs were heavily sandbagged. If the rifle was properly zeroed on it's battle sights, the rifle would be moved using the tripod's traversing and elevation mechanism to the target with the proper sight picture by the shooter. Then the rifle would be zeroed from there with the shooter aiming and the armorer out use the two pins to move the stadia with the guidance of the shooter. This was the field expedient method for field armorers to re-zero these rifles using the ZF41s. These rifles would get knocked about in combat and would knock their zero occasionally.
I guess the engineers thought the twin eccentrics were more rugged. I'm sure someone who zeroed them on a regular basis would be much more efficient but it's certainly not a very intuitive mechanism.
That's such an excessively stupid idea it could only have been devised by the Krauts. Compare to the Mosin PU zero procedure: >Fire round >Take previous hold, adjust reticle onto impact >Done. Win War.
@@SRR-5657 literally the only thing the commies did "better" than the Germans was their sheer number of soldiers and complete disregard for human life. That's it.
@@hermanlai6035 No ordinary bolt gun. This is the German Kar98k with ,no doubt, full power loads. Anyone not used to it will most likely not enjoy the Magnum like recoil.
@@Patriotusa44 I was wondering about that. No recoil pad and shooting prone can send the recoil right into the bone. Standing, you can put the butt plate on a little more muscle. It will get tender but straight into the bone can ruin your day.
this reminds me of a funny story, a buddy and I where shooting at steel gongs from 100 to 600 yards, we where shooing AR's, I got out my K-98 with a repop scope like in the video, jacked in some 198gr surplus FMJ's, shot the 100 swing swinging the plate wildly, then the 150 with a resounding slap, then to the 200 that was on a portable stand I hit it centered and the momentum of the plate knocked the stand over. my buddy had been shooting the 200yd plate, when he said where did the plate go? I said I knocked it over. he asked "what the hell are you shooting?" I said my 8x57 k98, he simply replied "animal, now go set it back up" very good video! and thanks to Carl for the sight in hints for this scope.
I brought my 24/47 to the range and broke like 3 steel targets. They didnt mind they said it happens all the time and they'd fix them at the end of the day. Looking back i guess 8mm mauser is a bit too powerful for those targets
19:22 I love that even when the bolt was closed and chamber was clear the whole time, when he receives the weapon, he opens the bolt. There's a charm to instinctive weapons safety practices.
I like how he said he doesn't know exactly what he was doing, he just does it in the moment. That's a sign of someone that's developed muscle memory and is a true professional. There are similarities to flying helicopters, when you get good at hovering... You just do it. You don't have to think about every movement.
I f'n love the collaborations and cameos on this channel. This is exactly what GunTube needs. Great job, as always, guys! I remember back when you had less than 5k subs thinking I had found a hidden gem. haha
The round jumping out was caused by not fully pushing the rounds in the magazine. As the stripper clip was kicked out, the round was still attached to it. Also, K98k feeds from the magazine, thumbing one into the chamber will cause unecessary strain on the extractor, unless the bolt is fitted with a special beveled extractor.
Winced a little when I saw him close the bolt on the chambered round. You can see he really had to force the bolt closed also, probably from the extractor having to jump over the case "rim".
@@moistjohn I know a Californian owns a Walther WA2000 and had it modified to Californian standards. They should have sold it as it is ruined forever now.
I don't know why these videos are so entertaining, but they are. I must be the great chemistry you guys share, your humor, the beautiful selection of firearms, your incredible marksmanship, your knowledge and the wonderful followup discussions.
Gentlemen, I think you're all missing the REAL winner of the actions. May I present to you, the P14 and M1917 Enfield. It uses the Mauser type Extractor and locking lugs, a cock on closing bolt and a little known feature of the 1903 Springfield: a camming surface near the bolt handle that aids in primary extraction of the fired case, rather than the cam forward on the reciever method the Mauser uses. That surface being on the bolt handle makes it far easier to unlock and extract an expanded case. Extraction cam force is from the bolt handle cam surface applied to the back of the rear receiver ring on opening.
I am now hooked on your channel and have subscribed. Thank you for shooting these old historic rifles. I have a Lee Enfield 4 Mark 1, Long Branch made in 1950 that I have a scope mount for and I've thought about turning it into a sniper but have been on the fence about it. Watching this video makes me realize 2 things: Trying to create an accurate reproduction sniper rifle is a lot of work and may be more headache than I'm willing to accept. The other is how impressed I am with the old snipers being able to do what they did with crappy technology back then. Makes me glad I bought my Savage 110 Tactical with my 6-18 modern scope. 7 rounds and she is .5 MOA. Good to go!
Growing up I used an 8mm Mauser as my main whitetail hunting rifle. Never ever had a deer even take a step after being hit, they all went down right where they were standing. No tracking required.
Even with the ZF41, I wouldn't expect the M1 Carbine to hit past 350 yards. Cartridge wasn't really made to go beyond that range. But hey, it would make for an interesting excercise!
@@Anino_Makata Yeah, you might get a better sight picture with the scope at long range but really I think the advantage compared to the M1 aperture irons is much less significant than comparing the glass to the k98 with the barley-corn/v-notch. Plus it's not like Henry can't shred with irons at long range anyway.
You know you guy's bring up a major question of mine and that's to do with the eye relief on the ACOG, you would figure that by now Trijicon would find a better solution to extending the eye relief by at least 5 extra inches, but like my Grandpa always said, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Great Vid as always guys👍👍
That's a good point. I've kind of had a similar thought. Like you said I'm guessing part of it is not fixing something that isn't broke. Probly also has to do with not wanting to go back through testing and field trials since I'm guessing so significant changes would have to be made.
According to a book written about an Eastern Front sniper they would acquire a Soviet sniper rifle as quickly as possible along with as much of the quality Russian ammo as they could.
Taking a Mauser out for hunting is a really good idea. My father has a Blaser R93 in 8x57. It has enough power to knock down a 400 pound red stag. Countless wildboar, red deer and roe deer died to it. And recoil is actually not that bad, comparable to a '06. Really a beautiful cartridge.
this video does a good job at showing just how much nuts something like 8mm has. The way it threw that 350 yard plate was kinda wild... cant imagine fighting against something that is shooting those things a 700-1300 rounds per minute, let alone more than 1 of them
Long eye relief scopes with small apertures always gave me a headache so bravo for actually hitting stuff with this setup. You know what would be fun to see? Anything in 45-70. Seeing how it preforms at 500 yds would be interesting.
I’ve been running a Scout rifle for 20 years and took it on a hunting trip to South Africa two years ago. Though I will never sell mine I do think the concept is now obsolescent. I have drifted from Coopers concept by fitting a Vortex 2-7. The only advantages I can see to the Scout rifle are the handiness of the short barrel, balance and charger reloading. The last has been largely negated by more modern bolt actions with detachable magazines. Having said that I prefer a fixed magazine for hunting. Having said that, on a recent In Range Q@A Karl mentioned that Ian is finding the Steve Scout very satisfactory.
It would be interesting to see how the 98 would stack up against the 03A3 if it had been given a set of aperture sights. Did any of the nations that adopted the Mauser implement a superior sighting system to the Germans?
Given that the Germans said they weren't particularly accurate on average, whereas 1903's were held to 3 MOA at the factory as a minimum standard, probably not very well on average ;) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-S7eQT9LeVeE.html
Bloke on the Range how dare you criticize the accuracy of the K98k??? Next thing you‘re going to tell me the Germans even remarked in ww1 on the superior accuracy of French rifles compared to the Gewehr 98!
@@BlokeontheRange What is going on here!?! First Karl collaborates, then a Ian cameo Easter egg, now comments from Bloke. 9-Hole review keeps pretty good company. We just need Othias to stop by...
10:50 I HIGHLY disagree with this statement. the United States was the only country to enter the war with a semi automatic rifle as standard issue for the army. Now, the marines started with mostly M1903 Springfields, but that's a story for a different day. Other countries TRIED to push semi automatic rifles into service, but they were never the standard. You were lucky to get one at that point. Here's a list of guns made and you'll see the discrepancy. Bolt action Gewehr k98 (German issue): 14,600,000+ Mosin Nagant M91/30: 16,000,000+ (speculative, as 91/30s were made from old M91s and brought up to spec or made new.) No.4 Lee-Enfield: 4,000,000 Type 99: 3,500,000 Semi Auto M1: 5,468,772 SVT-40: 1,600,000 Gewehr 41: 145,000 Gewehr 43: 402,713 As you can see, Germany had the right idea in using the optic on their standard issue K98 rifle for the designated marksman's role. Especially put into the context of early war.
I just discovered this channel and am thoroughly enjoying the combination of information/education and range time. I especially appreciate the sight picture shots that every episode has. Meanwhile... @ 18:12 I know German and Soviet snipers used extra-lethal explosive rounds, but this sniper seems to be taking it to another level with that rifle grenade :P
In WW2 the std. K98 was expected to shoot 3 out of 5 shots in a 2.8x4.1 MOA group, and 5 out of 5 shots in a 4.1 MOA group at 100 m as the minimum requirement, which is actually very good for a rifle produced in the many millions, as the higher the production number the higher the minimum accuracy requirement also has to be in order to avoid substantial number of rejections. For comparison the minimum accuracy requirement for the US std. service rifle, the M1 Garand was 5 MOA, and for the British Lee Enfield No.4 it was 4.5 MOA. So basically the minimum accuracy requirement was the same for these three nations std. service rifles, with the one exception being that the Germans required less horizontal dispersion -> which makes sense with such a heavy projectile.
I often hunt with a Jerghans & Kreigskorte drilling in 16ga x 16ga over 8x57JR (rimmed 8mm Mauser), and hoo boi that 197gn pill with a load that is regulated to the sights is about too much for out lil' eastern deer lol.
The snipers did in fact hate the ZF-41 scope. In the book "Sniper on the Eastern Front", there was a part where a Wehrmacht war artist was sketching a German sniper armed with a K98 that had a ZF-41 scope on and sniper "Josef Roth said "There's no point in painting that thing, you can't see anything through it." in regards to the ZF-41 on the rifle.
11:20 M1A1 Carbine with German ZF-41 scope 1.5x Item 13. M1A1 Carbine presented to Major General Sir Colin Gubbins after the war by members of the Norwegian Resistance. In 1940, Gubbins had commanded the "Independent Companies" -- a forerunner to the Commandos --in Norway. Later he oversaw the succesful raid on the Vemork heavy water plant in 1943. (from the Museum notes)
I'd like to see a Close range practical accuracy done on it. .30 carbine isn't going to be worth a damn past 300yds. Hitting that 500yd gong will be a nightmare, and that's if it moves enough for Josh to call.
Outstanding shooting with that little scope, worst one used in WW2, your a RIFLEMAN no doubt to achieve this level of hits at long distances with that optic.
Speaking of the M1 Carbine, I had one with a 1.5-4.5X Weaver scope. I could snipe pigeons, feral cats, etc at 100 yards with no difficulty using Remington or Winchester 110 gr sp/hp ammo. I imagine the Norwegian resistance made life miserable for Nazis out to 300 yards.
I can't tell because of the video editing... do you guys do any cooling between shots? Or does Henry just shoot as fast as he is comfortable? Just wondering because I've never heard you mention if barrel temperature affects accuracy on anything you've shot and I would imagine things get hot by the time you are out to 400+ yards and that could affect POI.
I cringe every time I see someone take a K98 and shove a single round on top of the follower and shove the round into the chamber, thinking the K98 is a push feed rifle like a Remington 700. See it @ 4:56.
@@DewaKrishna_ K-98 is a "Controlled Feed" action. it requires the ammo to be fed from the magazine because as the cartridge is fed from the magazine, the rim of the cartridge base is fed up under the extractor on the bolt, giving positive feeding. If you place a a cartridge on the magazine follower in a K98 action, you will cause a jam because that is NOT how the action was designed. If you need more information, look up "controlled feed bolt actions and "push feed" bolt actions.
I've been working on something similar for my svt40. Using an AK rear sight Picatinny rail block. Need to find a good scope. Messed up the first time, bought a pistol scope, and that's way too much eye relief distance. Need to find an actual scout scope.
