Honestly this is probably the easiest recruiting process in this verse "hey did you by any chance have a girl in blonde destroy your home and your loved ones come join along there's many just like you waiting to get your REVENGE"
Imagine if whole(or atleast big enough number) Red Lantern Corp will come for Kara's head, like "I will have revenge for my family/race/kin/culture/civilization! Die!".
Alright, but torching Thanagar is an insane flex. It's a planet of Super-alien warriors clad in Nth Metal that tend to have two-to-three wars happening simultaneously, between the bird-people that cohabitate the planet that caused them to invent the harnesses, and the Rannians, one of the most technologically advanced races in the universe.
There's nothing Kara did that she needs redemption for. She was clearly under the mental domination of Brainiac and ergo, not committing any of these acts of her own free will. Real Kara is the one who thought they'd basically peacefully brought all those worlds into their benevolent empire and all the people were out there happy and protected. That she feels incredible guilt for it is natural, but also another sign that there's no redemption needed because she was never evil and never would have done those things willingly. Kara is every bit the victim of Brainiac that the worlds he destroyed using her under mind control were.
@@ChristopherJohnson-np4dvShe....still killed all of those people dude. I doubt the survivors care if she was mind controlled or not. What there needs to be is proof that she was controlled by Brianiac otherwise her possessed actions prove Lex right.
Idk. Depends how exactly Brainiac controls her. However it is, he is certainly going to put Superman through the same process. We know she eventually dons the original costume so she does change. I’m guessing it has something to do with the armor she’s wearing making her compliant only with direct orders from what we see.
And once again, Jimmy finds himself in the right place, at the right time. Correct me if I’m wrong but this is probably the most competent Jimmy in the history of Jimmys, it seems.
So the most horrific atrocity committed by a character with Superman-like powers, put to screen, was committed by an unwilling participant? Not by Omniman, not by Homelander, not by Tighten, not by Brightburn. But someone who wasn’t even in control of their faculties when it happened. That’s a unique kind of horror.
The fact that the people she slaughtered took the time to make a flat-out decorated carving of her slaughtering them is...puzzling and concerning...It implies that she has done the massacres on multiple separate occasions and left such an impression that their culture now has her in their history forever as some... DOOMSDAY made manifest and real.
Man lies hurt 😞 to Supergirl from a evil villain Brainiac now she will work with Superman pals to face off against Brainiac hopefully he doesn’t mind control her during the battle
You had to add that last bit at the end to get the AI not to make it a “for kids” video despite the clip being that Kara committed genocide on a planetary scale multiple times 😅
I get this part was mind control But she is still completely complicit in conquering planets so Not sure if we can pull that "oh she wasn't in control" card
She didn't know that genocide was part of conquering. It doesn't help that she was manipulated to not see anything wrong with conquering other words since a young age.
no it doesn't, you're talking from a place of someone who doesn't even know the canon you likely like it based on a bare bones basis that it looks anime, it tries it's hardest to be anime, it's got anime npc waifus in it and it's mid so that way normies can digest it better. If you like it? cool. "Perfect"? Nah, Stop it.
no? cause we didn't actually see her kill anyone lmfao. Off-screen. They're still tip-toeing like this is a saturday morning kids cartoon No idea why this crap is on adult swim. Literally just a mid shoujo anime.
So...she singlehandedly annihilated about a dozen civilized alien worlds while under total mind control. Wow, thats dark and definitely not brainiacs way.
Actually it kinda is, while mind-control isn’t a part of it, brainiac collect the information from a planet, take a city or something similar from it and shrink it then destroy the planet, I guess in this continuity he more or less razes the planets though 🤔
Brainiac in MAWS seems to not be some research assistance AI or rogue collector, but a militaristic AI for the Kryptonian Empire. Not even militaristic, considering he states he was in every form of software in the empire, so likely a logistical and bureaucratic AI to boot - essentially speaking, an empire-seed, with all the skills necessary to rebuild a once vast interstellar polity.
You can tell how much pain and agony she feels knowing the truth of what she is to her “father” is really sad. She isn’t a person, she’s a weapon. She was made for the purpose of ending everything and anyone in his plan to “fix” the universe in Krypton’s image. When in reality, it’s likely he could care less about Krypton, and is only doing this for his own sadistic gain.
Holy crappolini...! That's probably the darkest take on Supergirl's backstory I've seen. Finding out that you've basically annihiliated several worlds on autopilot, and having been conditioned into not remembering or even notice it by your only father figure... That's just plain devastating.
@@SignoftheMagi You mean that movie where Superman/Kara's cousin, Batman, Wonder Woman and Barda invaded Apocalypse to rescue Kara/Supergirl? I thought she would be more like a replacement for Barda, a new member of the Furies from what I've seen.
@theowilds3778 yeah luckily enough superman,batman,wonder woman and big were able to rescue kara from darkseid before he got the chance to unleash kara on other planets and probably the earth itself
Wow. At least Brainiac in the DCAU collected the knowledge before razing a world. But I love how this one ain’t even gonna beat around the bush, probably downloaded each database in nanoseconds so there’d be more time for world razing.
This one does too. It’s why he has the captured memories of other aliens. This Brainiac is basically a Naz1 Scientist. His mission statement to to advance the power and science of Krypton. He believes that science advances at a much faster rate in the heat of war. He will conquer planets, study their attempts to stop him, steal a copy of minds from those that posed the biggest threat to him so that he can use them to learn even more like he did when he was testing Clark. Through the act of conquering worlds and advancing his own scientific knowledge Brainiac is expanding his version of the Krypton Empire. The fact his creators are gone doesn’t matter because the mission remains the same
Brainiac didn't even care if Kara captures Clark! He was using her as a living weapon in order to brainwash her into destroying not just Planet Krypton, but every other planet across the universe as well!
Didn’t Jor El show us that they fought some civilization or something they couldn’t defeat? It showed their sun turning red so it’s gotta be something or someone crazy strong
You know seeing how shock kara was seeing all those planets she destroyed has made me realise that this should have happened to the arkhamverse justice league in suicide squad kill the justice league if they had been freed from brainiac control instead of being killed by the squad seeing the horrors they did to metropolis and its people and how they should have taken down brainiac sooner before trying to negotiate with him
that sounds like childish naive writing which would fit if it was a kids cartoon but it was suicide swoud and a mature audiance thats would be 8nteliectualy insult8ng it be just as horible as the mcus scarlet witch comits horrors and 8nstantly forgivven bullshit
@@everydaycommentator6036If I were to guess they were using text to speech. it doesn't do any punctuation and limited capitalization, but for a lot of people it's a pain to type on the stupid little keyboards of a phone.
If i had a nickel for everytime a hero was used to destroy countless civilizations while under mind control well lets just say id have more then 2 nickel's. Probably have like $1000 maybe more
@falconeshield yeah and if there's a hro talak from the old justice league animated show exists in this universe since he was only used once I reckon he'll be the 1 to lead the remaining thanagarian forces to hunt down and destroy kara
@@westrim Tony knew he was brainwashed and all he did was kill his parents (didn't even care about his dad) anyone who goes after kill while being wrong will have my sympathy unlike Tony.
It'd be fun if the Justice League gets shown in this continuity, and either Hawk Girl or Hawk Man get shown off and have a vehement distain or distrust with the Kryptonian race after what they did to Thanagar.
@@GamingGuy84 It can be like the Justice League from The Batman (2004). The members in the episode they appeared in were John Jones, Green Lantern (Hal Jordan), Flash (Barry Allen), Green Arrow (Oliver Queen), and Hawk Man. Batman and Superman joined later. You could have a similar set up where John Jones was discretely recruiting members from across the globe as an unbiased team that would protect the planet without the strings of any government that would want super powered individuals to fight what *they* deemed as threats to their national security. The reason it took John Jones so long to even approach Superman was because of either Hawk Girl or Hawk Man being the only people to witness Kryptonians first hand, and caution them to not make an approach until they exactly knew that he could be trusted (which could even then be clouded by their bias). Green Lantern could also collaborate stating the Guardians don't exactly have a positive record of the Kryptonain Empire, past and present.
It's sad to see how Kara finally realized how Brainiac conditioned her to conquer worlds. Hopefully, Kara will be able to make amends for the lives that Brainiac had her ruin. I'm curious to see how Kara and Jimmy interact after this.
Anyone of those planets would want her death, and they will probably be by now powerful enough to tear her appart Whatever happens, it's going to be another nightmare
@@alejandroelluxray5298 I doubt that they would be powerful enough to take down Kara. She's still a super powered kryptonian. If there are survivors from those destroyed worlds, it would definitely be trouble for Kara, but hopefully, she can make things right, especially since she never wanted to destroy those worlds and felt remorse for what Brainiac made her do.
But again, it depends on the circumstances. Not every mass murder in anime would go through it. Like, would it be pissy if Sukuna then turns good and just be "Oh, my bad. I think I love everything now."
Kara isn't a mass murderer. Murder requires intent. She was the weapon used by the mass murderer Brainiac due to conditioning (which from the information given began in her infancy) that meant she literally had no memories of the deaths inflicted. Calling Kara a mass murderer is just victim blaming.
@@ChristopherJohnson-np4dvIf I were the judge on her case, I wouldn't find her guilty of razing the worlds. However, due to her participation, regardless of intention, I would rule that she needs to help make reparations to the worlds and their remaining inhabitants. Assuming there are any.
@@quincyconnors9391Let's also add the humanization of her morals being groomed by a robotic being that is intent on the will to conquer or destroy. Could add more support to her being put for reparation and rehabilitation.
It was in case Superman goes rogue. It's like this, what if one day, Superman loss control and not even the best militaries on Earth, no matter how advanced their technology becomes couldn't stop him? That possibility frightens people, and believe or not even Batman. We're talking about an alien with super strength, flight, and heat vision, all powered by Earth's yellow sun.
@@Mourtzouphlos240 Yes, at least 384,400 kilometres (238,855 miles) max, After one minute, Superman's eyes can release a burst of energy that is up to 168 kilojoules, after an hour, his eyes could release 10 megajoules of energy, which is ten times the energy of a car driving on a highway, after a full day, his heat vision could release 240 megajoules of energy, which is similar to exploding 58 kilograms of TNT.
Edit: This is an extremely sensitive issue. All her life, she’s been brainwashed, manipulated, and conditioned into being a weapon for an evil AI. THIS CANNOT BE SIMPLY WAVED AWAY. I want to see Kara get help, therapy in order to heal, and rescue people in the show from cults and abusive homes. That’s what I would do, at least. I’d see her be a complete advocate to trauma survivors or those from abusive households.
Frankly, that would be an interesting concept. Superheroes save the world all the time, but who saves them from their own trauma? I would love to see a comic book or TV series about a therapist who specifically treats superheroes.
@@astrofan1993 agreed, how does it affect them in their lives when they aren’t crime fighting. Just having lunch or going to a party or watching a movie, etc. It needs to be done delicately.
@@astrofan1993 the trauma would affect the character’s ability to help or to normal routines they didn’t have a problem in before is now hurting them. Therapy, friendships, trying new things etc. it could end in, “I’m doing better little by little, brick by brick.”
@@astrofan1993 There... was an event.... it claimed it would address such things...... And it rapidly shot up to near the top of many people's most hated DC event comics. Heroes In Crisis wasn't just a character assassin, it was a character mass murderer. Both in conventional character assassination serialized, but offing dozens of characters in universe. This is not to say that the concept of addressing mental health with superheroes is a bad one, but it must be handled with care, especially after Heroes in Crisis tainted the waters.
Not gonna lie but Kara feeling Guilty and regret about what she has done reminds of how Yuji itadori felt when he let sukana take control and got almost everyone killed thus causing to fall into complete despair. Just to be clear with you and that’s all. You are my Special.
I loved that Kara learned the truth immediately in this episode in normal series characters like this would take much longer to accept there parental figure is in fact a mass murderer even when the evidence is right before them but Kara instant starts questioning things on her own sure Clark helped her see the truth but Kara went on her own to learn of what happened and all came to the very end where she realises “yeah the man who raised me is a psychopath that never cared about me”
Am I the only one getting Chozo vibes from the Thanagarian aesthetic? The way this engraving depicting their fall just _materialised_ reminded me of a lore scan in Metroid Prime. Also Kara is basically Samus if she had been raised by Raven Beak rather than Old Bird and Grey Voice.
Kyrptonians being conquistadors is a great take on it all. Kara being unwilling adds a layer to Brainiac that makes him even more sinister. MAWS is really hitting hard in terms of fresh ideas
Imagine what Superman did while darkseid controlled him. Clark wouldn’t let it break his spirit. Kara will help destroy brainiac and redeem herself as supergirl, saving the innocent and being a hero. And healing herself from the guilt in the process. 💪
When asked about the kryptonians in a recent Reddit AMA, the showrunners said that the kryptonian empire fell because it wss divided between the ideas of conquest and science. That division couldnt be bridged, and eventually, the entire thing collapsed in on itself. They also said that Krypton wasnt THE big evil empire, just one of them Which begs the question We see what just ONE kryptonian can do, let alone an entire armada of them. So if they werent the biggest wolf in the woods, who was?
"I am the revelation! The Tiger-Force at the core of all things! When you cry out in your dreams it is Darkseid that you see!" "I. Am. The. New. God. All is one in Darkseid. This mighty body is my church. When I command your surrender, I speak with three billion voices. When I make a fist to crush your resistance. It is with three billion hands. When I stare into your eyes and shatter your dreams. And break your heart. It is with six billion eyes! Nothing like Darkseid has ever come among you: Nothing will again. I will take you to a hell without exit or end. And there I will murder your souls! And make you crawl and beg! And die! Die! Die for Darkseid!"
@@johndavidtibbetts7320 Darkseid for sure. And Jor-El even said that they got completely wiped out from an enemy more powerful than them (which totally fits Darkseid).
Well... I might be wrong since I haven't been able to get up do date with everything... but my own theory from what I have seen and read, is that maybe pre-fall Krypton was in a red-sun system and as such, could only rely on their tech and numbers... which would not get benefits from their internal cultural schism... in the other hand, Kara, being raised by Brainiac and brought across multiple planets across the galaxy would get enough yellow-sun to work her Kryptonian powers on TOP of the technological support from Brainiac... like... from what I've seen, her vizor helps boost her heat vision :/
Still you, Galatea. She was used but is about to turn against the one who used her. You, on the other hand, were created specifically to be a weapon and kept destroying despite given orders to stand down because you couldn’t stand being in her shadow.
@@quincyconnors9391I think the point they were getting at is she is just like her. Only difference is Galatea didn't really get a chance at redemption.
@@wingadept8793 She was told to stand down when Batman slapped Waller to see the real snake in the grass. Galatea ignored that order to pursue a personal grudge.
In DCU lore, Shayera and Katar were never Thanagarians... used tech from a Thanagarian ship that crash-landed on Earth during the days of Ancient Egypt and have perpetually reincarnated throughout Earth's history. Basically, Thanagar being destroyed within the last 20-odd years has no effect at all on Hawkman/Hawkgirl being in the story.
@@ChristopherJohnson-np4dv Depends on which version of Hawkman and Hawkgirl we're dealing with: there's the "reincarnated Ancient Egyptians" origin, or the "space cops from Thanagar" origin.
The sad thing is? Doesn't matter if she beats Brainiac up. Doesn't matter that she was not under control. The hand that committed mass genocide against so many planets was still her own. She's going to have to live with that guilt for the rest of her life.
Well, I would say it DOES matter that her body was being controlled and she had no say in anything. But yeah, realisticly, next season she'll probably be dealing with massive amounts of guilt and ptsd. Plus adapting to a completely new life on an unknown planet. Hoping they handle it well.
@@elisa4620 Sure, it matters because that's what others will always say and tell her. But Kara coming to terms with it herself is a whole different story.
@@0axis771 Exactly. She has been through a lot and will be/should be going through a lot in at least the next season, emotionally and mentally, for different reasons.* She's probably a mess. At least she's got supportive people who can help her deal with all of this. *Which is why I said I hope they do it well. 🤞
Kara got more bodies than Omniman, also it's amazing how this is better written then the entirety of supergirl, I like how this literally proves lex's point
It doesn't though. This is not a choice it's brainwashing. Lex stopped having a point the minute he spent his life trying to kill a man he was jealous of. Lex is all for calling out the potential evils of a man with physical power but hypocritically ignores his evil that he perpetuates with HIS power.
I hope they follow through with this and not just sweep it under the rug after she breaks free from Brainiac's control. She would have severe guilt, depression and PTSD from learning what she actually did and how many lives she took.
As tragic as Kara’s backstory is in this continuity, it actually shares a striking resemblance to the legend of Hercules in Greek mythology. In the original Greek myth, the goddess Hera has an unbridled hatred for her husband, Zeus, and all of his offspring he’s had with mortal women, so she seeks out her revenge by targeting Hercules (Zeus’s demigod son). She induces Hercules with “madness”, driving him to kill his own wife and children in a blind rage. When the madness subsides, Hercules has no recollection of killing them and is horrified by his actions (Hence, he is tasked to perform his infamous “Twelve Labors” to redeem himself). As seen here, mythology has repeated itself with Braniac inducing Kara with “madness” . . . Or, in this case, mind control. Braniac is to Kara as Hera was to Hercules. Both Kara and Hercules bare a “blood guilt” that will haunt them forever.
Zod will probably still appear in most adaptations he's in the phantom zone cause of jor-el which hasn't been mentioned or explored yet so zod will come eventually just not now
"The Thanagarians, though weak and women-like on the battlefield, were masters of stonemasonry. Crazy bird-people carved this relief of me conquering their planet while i was still killing them."
You already know what to do one must learn to let go of the past to move forward but whenever she is alone she will always look towards her friends and only her friends to help them stop this madness and they were two ways which are easy to take one submit to be a slave or to push ahead and move forward those are your only option now go forth supergirl and then go save your cousin
Finding out that she was used unconsciously and unknowingly as a tool to commit countless genocides is probably the darkest Superman-related plot I’ve ever seen. Wow.
