[KARDASHIBA - The Glow] Studio M Special | M COUNTDOWN 191219 EP.645 

Ikr this is beyond my expectations despite Korea really strict with u know..

Yeah, i remember the one with bangs and the red hair 😁

I was about to talk about the same thing 😂

Yes they are voguers

And tiffany in her mv too

OHH! I recognize one of them

Isa-chan O_O its called a fucking “dip” not a death drop.

@@yurauro1900 Thanks for correcting me. I searched it and it is indeed called a dip not a deathdrop. Sorry, I should educate myself more 😅

@@yurauro1900 uh... chill out, vogue's don't care about terminology as long as the choreo is fierce and on beat.

It was a death drop. A dip is a different move from the ball community.

I think some call it a death drop and others call it a dip but it depends really 🤷🏽‍♀️ either way it was everything 😁

Anselmus Dito k- lgbt day is coming Free korea

As korean I’m very proud of them

더보기 누르면 알 수 있어요

엥??

@@nan_s__h ㅋㅋㅋ 이걸 또 쓰신분이 있다니ㅋㅋㅋ 반가워요

HoneyLion dips*

Oh is it dips now? When did switch back?

@@lkafjkakjf333 it has always been called a "dip". The misunderstanding probably comes from RuPaul's show where the drag queens misuse certain dance terms.

Yes!

I think some of them were also in kyungri's blue moon mv

활동명이 샤넬이라는데 찰떡...

참고로 게임그래픽디자인학과 학생이라는 사실이 저를 돌게 해요...

I don't think its like that... Holland is an indie artist and maybe doesn't own the money to pay for a spot in mnet.

@ Exactly. He is an indie artist cause he has no company (cause he's gay) and doesn't got the money cuase he doesn't get many gigs (cause he's gay)

@@patriciofarras7455 the reason you are giving me has no sense to me, do you know about mrshll? he was actually the first male artist to say he was gay, and he is in a company... AND HES FREAKING GAY. maybe if holland finds a company who will respect him as an artist (bc there are), maybe you wouldnt be saying... oh he isnt getting this bc he's gay, as if he's the only one and kr is treating him badly, thats an awful thing to say ps if ur curious, mrshll got out of the closet in an interview when he was releasing his first work, and his parents didnt know he was gay tho... but maybe people zzzzz on him bc he isnt holland

@ You just literally prove my point. Yes, I do knoe about Mrshll, and I knoe he's hella gay, just as Holland and just as me, and I know he's in a compay but... What is he doing? Where is he? I didn't saw him in Inkigayo or Music Bank, or snatching thropies at the year end awards, and that is my point, they do not get the same opportunities as the "straight" artist, and I say it like that cause a lot of them are just still in the closet. I mean, as soon as they came out in public, almost all the industry banned them just for that, and no because the industry has a problem with that, but because the public are the ones that has the problem with it.

The thing is korean music shows didn't pay their performers, instead the performers have to pay them to be on the show, that's why we usually didn't get to see artist from small companies.

저도 ㅠㅠ

실제로 초록짧은 머리분이 스테이투나잇 백댄서분..!

Thank you lordt someone who didn't say drag queens but actually femme queens /o/

0:25 기준으로 왼쪽부터 Ariel (김태형 최해준 Huh (허준영 Beautia (이유종 Chanel (장원중 입니다!

Ariel 댄서분 성함은 김태현님입니다

Yes

Yes! I do that same.

Didn't Mamamoo have them on a ive show during Decalcomanie era? I think they did.. 🤗

They don’t give a damn about Lgbtq people in Korea. This is for marketing to get views and followers..

@@AAA-v8s4f okay

​@@AAA-v8s4f who tf said they want to be women

@@AAA-v8s4f They themselves said in an interview that voguing is an LGBTQ culture. 댓글 이해도 못하고 한국인인 게 감투인 거 마냥 뻘소리를 길게 써놓으셨네

@@wyvernsk맥락을 못읽고 있는 쪽이 누구죠? 인터뷰 다시 읽어보고 오십쇼. 보깅댄스의 기원 자체가 LGBT진영에서 나온게 맞다는 거지, 본인들이 LGBT를 지지할 목적으로 춤을 추는거랍니까? 영상에서 댄서들은 "우리는 보깅이라는 장르를 하기 때문에 이렇게 입고 이렇게 하고 다니는 것이 아니다. 원래 우리는 이런것들이 좋은 사람들이다. 나는 남성으로써 이것이 좋다."라고 강력히 주장합니다. 화장을 하거나, 머리를 기르거나, 치마를 입는 남성들이 돌팔매질을 맞는 이 한국 사회에서요. 이러한 상황에서 저 댄서분들의 행보와 공중파 출연은 정말 용감하고 힘이되는 말입니다. 나는 남성으로써 이런 옷이, 화장이, 춤이 좋다. 라고 말 하는 것이니까요. 그런데 이런 영상에 달린 댓글들을 보십쇼. 죄다 "OH LGBT~MY DRAG QUEENS~"하며 본질은 보지도 못하고 있죠. 한국이 "LGBT인식이 정말 후진나라다 이런 컨텐츠가 나온게 신기하다" 라는 식의 시혜적 마인드도 포함해서요. 이 얼마나 무례한 일입니까? 남성이 하고싶은 옷과 머리와 태도와 춤을 추는 것이, 대체 "게이,레즈,바이,트젠'과 무슨 연관이 있습니까? 얼마전에 저 댄서분들 중 한 분께서 나오신 올리브영 영상이나 보고 오십시오. 가서 표준에서 조금이라도 벗어나는 남성들이 얼마나 힘든 삶을 살고 있는지 보세요. 남성성을 깨부순 용기있는 남성들에게 LGBTQ를 붙이는게 무례한거라는 생각은 안하십니까? LGBTQ는 당연히 존중받아야 합니다. 하지만 이건 다른문제죠. 외국어 댓글들 보십쇼. 드랙퀸ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 그저 무례하기 짝이 없습니다. 결국 화장하고, 치마를 입고, 머리를 기르는 남성들은 그저 평범한 남성으로써 남을 수 없습니까? 결국 밖에서 보면 드랙퀸 취급이겠죠. 많은 외국어 댓글을 보고 참 화가 나더군요..드랙퀸이라뇨ㅋㅋㅋ 게다가 한국 무시 발언까지ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 진정으로 당신이 사회적 약자들을 생각하고, 한국인이라면 같이 분노해주십시오. 당신도 이 팀에 대해, 이 댄서들의 마인드 셋에 대해, 잘 알지도 못하면서 뻘소리를 하시는건 아닙니까? 당신을 포함한 많은 외국인들의 이런 차별적인 태도가 표준에서 조금만 벗어난 남성들을 옥죄고 있다는 걸 알고계십시오. 같은 한국인으로써 좋지않은 긴말은 더 않겠습니다. STOP SAYING DRAG QUEEN SHIT. Read interview again. They just said "the origin of the Voguing dance itself is from LGBT camp", NOT said themselves dance for the purpose of supporting the LGBT. In the video, the dancers strongly said, "The reason we wear or make up like this is not because we dance Voguing. Originally we were the man who liked these things, as a man." In Korean society, men WHO wearing makeup, wearing skirts, with long hair, encounter stone-throwing for "not being NORMAL CIS MAN" In this situation, that precious dancers progress and TV show appearance are really brave and helpful for the man who can't be ACCEPTABLE MAN IN THIS SOCIETY. Because they definitely said "As a man, I like skirts, makeup, and so on girly things. And that is not related at all with genre "Voguing Dance". But LOOK AT THE COMMENTS ON THIS VIDEO. SO MUCH PEOPLE SAYING "~OH LGBT~ MY DRAG QUEENS~". Yep. Don't see essence at ALL.{ plus comments that saying Condescendingly, "korea is trash about LGBT, so that's amazing there is a contents like this as a foreigner :)"} HOW FREAKEN RUDE BEHAVIOR. WTF is connectiong between "man voguing dancer who like skirts, makeup, and so on girly things and saying I like that as a guy." with GAY, LESBIAN, BISEXUAL, TRANSGENDER?? Just because they are not look or act like cis guy? Please watch a video which one of these dancer came out in "Olive Young" youtube Channel, as a topic with "Cold eyes toward man who wears make up" And see how tough "being an unusual man" is. Don't you think that is RUDE to label "man who do his own things" with "LGBTQ"? As a result, men WHO wearing makeup, wearing skirts, with long hair can't be passing as a cis guy? MY Drag Queeeeeens~ OMG. that's the way who people look. OKayyy~ If you really stan for the weak of society, just say "they are really gorgeous dancers who crashing sexism." not saying "My DRaG QUEENS IS HERE~ LET'S BRING IT LGBT~!" Be aware that this discriminatory attitude of many foreigners, including you, is condemning men who are a bit out of the normal. And please, STOP SAYING DRAG QUEEN SHIT. PLEASE.

Ikr?! Hahahh also if you don't know someone's pronouns you can say "they." Instead of saying "he/she." "They" is also a gender neutral term.

@@samuri2011 even for singular? Bcs i thought 'they' is used for plural. Sorry I'm just curious since english is not my first language

@@housefairy5777 yes. You can use they as singular and plural. In gender terms, a person may use "they" to refer to themselves for any reason that feels fit such as being an agender, non-binary, two-spirit, gender queer, or pansexual person. The other way we use it is to refer to someone in a situation in which we don't know their preferred pronouns. For example, if someone is a stranger (someone we don't know personally, or someone who had not told us their pronouns openly), instead of miss gendering them, we can use "they" to call on one person. Hope that makes sense. 🧡💛💚💙💜🖤❤️

@@samuri2011 Ah now I understand. Thank you for sharing the knowledge I never got in my English class. 🌈🌈🌈

@@housefairy5777 you're so welcome! 💜💜💜♥️💙 A lot of us actually don't learn about this in grade school English class. I learned in college in Women's Studies courses. Our education is very homophobic still, so a lot of times we have to go on the internet and search for information in books or learn about it in college.

This is not them singing. This is their own choreography to a song not sung by them. The song is: The glow by Victoria Monet