Karen Read: JURY DEADLOCKS! What Does This Mean and What's Next? - Lawyer LIVE 

Bunch of lawless Keystone cops, they botched the whole case

It lasted that long because the Prosecution dragged it out.

I am wondering if this will work in her favour as the FBI investigation could now reveal corruption in the Canton Police department?

I hope the ongoing FBI investigation exposes things that discourages retrial. Because the cops are dirty, the entire investigation, to me, is questionable.

The State must prove to the Jury the Defendant is GUILTY because the Defendant is already NOT GUILTY because she has the “presumption of innocence” ALREADY so she’s ALREADY “ NOT GUILTY”! So this is about the Jury finding her “GUILTY” and they ALL could not find her GUILTY!

Call this corruption. Sorry, for John's family😢 I hope the real criminals are brought to justice.

If there is any reasonable doubt she cannot be guilty.

My heart goes out to John’s mom and his family. Painful to watch indeed 😞

A hung jury is NOT a wasted effort by the jury. It is a jury upholding rights.

GIRL…Blue is your color..absolutely beautiful this particular blue. Stunning!

They couldn't get past the 2nd-degree charge. Some must believe she had the intent and meant to hit him and intentionally left him to die. That is crazy to me.

I came into this trial, thinking she was guilty. And the lack of evidence and the suspicious handling of everything from the cops made me believe she is innocent.

ITS CALLED CORRUPTION

My heart breaks, because the only people here that leave unresolved are the O’keefes. I hope the FBI uncovers things that help them towards healing and closure. I hate this for them.

Someone should read the Tuey- Rodriguez charge to the prosecution. How can they imagine that by recharging her with the same evidence it would be possible to find a jury that would convict her?

A defendant comes into a trial with the assumption of innocent until proven guilty. The prosecution did not prove its case. The police and crime scene investigation (was there one?) did a questionable job with evidence. The judge even while obviously biased against the defense did an unimpressive job. Using the same people will result in the same hung jury and no verdict.

THIS PROVES MY BELIEF THAT SOME PEOPLE JUST WANT TO PUNISH SOMEONE REGARDLESS OF EVIDENCE. THIS TRIAL WAS A CUT AND DRY AS ANY I'VE SEEN.

This should NEVER have gone to trial. The LE didn't follow police procedures re: crime scene or investigation. A complete mess from time of 911 call😡 Also showed the corruption of the dept and framing of innocent person.

In my mind I believe there was definitely corruption,and I believe that he was in that house 🏡 and the Dog did bite him .

Lally and Bev should be recused.

The mext trial needs to be out of all these law enforcement jurisdictions.

If Proctor and his boss are terminated for misconduct ,what will that do to a second trial .

Can't the defense appeal, saying insufficient evidence to try it again?

The prosecutor needs to let this go and move on . They are to blame for this man not receiving justice. Too much reasonable doubt

I don't remember any defense ever winning a retrial. Very expensive for both sides.

MISTRIAL....what would happen next. Still I believe shes guilty

It doesn’t matter what people feel or believe, the state failed to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

How are they EVER going to get jurors who don’t know about the details in this case to sit for a new trial

She will never be convicted.

That blow to the head didn’t come from the top of a car.

Q: ive heard many comments by laywers & LEO's that a retrial could ONLY BENEFIT KR. Bc unlike other cases there is a clear breech of law by Bev NOT ruling against the CW's inclusion of certain, specific but large swath of evidence that although was clearly essential for the CW to make it's case against KR was also evidence that was factually & wholly improper to admit- & was therefore judicially improper for Bev to allow in. Many have pointed out that virtually ALL OF THE PROCTOR'D EVIDENCE (aka everything lacking a property documented chain of custody which begins AT THE CRIME SCENE evidence like the mysteriously appearing tail light pieces, or JO's clothes, etc etc bc this submissions admittedly lack the proper required chain of custody bc that chain only begins after weeks of these exhibits being undocumented but in the sole possession of proctor in the WEEKS BEFORE their actual, documented custody chain starts which happens only AFTER the folks at the crime lab recieve any of these items.) This evidence & more that the CW case depends on completely WOULD NOT ONLY *NOT* BE FOUND ADMISSIBLE by another (more neutral) judge but that INFACT gets worse, bc had the jury NOT HUNG & thereby actually convicted KR today the verdict would have undoubtedly be thoroughly criticized & rejected by any appellate court once they saw with their own eyes how badly judge Bev was = wildly out of line & was therefore completely in breech of her most fundamental of duties by admitting these items which clearly lacked all standards of admissibility (like the very basics of a 101 level admissibility course which requires all evidence to have a demonstrated documented chain of custody that starts at the moment of its collection @ the crime scene) Any thoughts) sounds convincing to me but of course im also only a law surgeon on TV. 🙏

This proves my belief that some people just want to punish someone regardless of evidence. This trial was a cut and dry as any I’ve seen. Papa O’ knows Karen did not do it. This should have been over for the O’s and Karen.

Any chance of getting a change of venue in the next trial?

My guess is that there are one or two jurors that believe that she is guilty in spite of the pile of reasonable doubt. I still do not know if she is guilty, But I AM sure that there is enough doubt to acquit. I feel so bad for the family.

This jury makes sense to me. I've gone back and forth repeatedly as this case has progressed. The defense evidence has certainly made me question the police and prosecution, you know? But there were just a few lingering questions that the prosecution hammered home and the defense never resolved. So i kinda get it. This is an interesting turn of events.

With all of the evidence against the prosecutor and the cops it’s so hard to understand how anyone could find her guilty.

I’m watching in Australia so maybe no unbiased jury here either 😂

I feel like the re-trial if it happens will also result in a hung jury.

I really feel that it was proven that she did not hit him, he was not hit by a vehicle.

And the best defense closing argument EVER

"Auntie Bev" should have never been the judge and Michael Proctor should have never had anything to do with investigating that case!!!!

Not the verdict we prayed for, but better than the alternative.

In my opinion I believe the judge played a part in the hung jury. To me, the judge made some questionable decisions/rulings.

So the Prosecution wants to keep them hostage, until they make a decision in favor of them, so they don’t have to do the inefficient work again

I 100% think the Dynamite charge is controversial. I would have found her not guilty with the hope that my profession as a nurse would not cause me to be biased as I do not think the injuries do match what she was charged with.

If they try a re trial , good luck finding jurors who haven’t heard about the case

'' framed..not guilty''

I know most of you won't support this but..she's guilty if look at just the EVIDENCE..not the assumption, not what the police are being ACCUSED of ( without proof) but look at the actual evidence she's guilty of manslaughter.

If you didn't think there was reasonable doubt in this case you shouldn't be allowed to use a knife and fork unsupervised 🤦‍♂️

????When the judge went back to talk to the jury, would she have asked the number of who voted for guilty and not guilty???

Their fundamental differences are their biases. Some may have issues with women. Some may have issues with LE. So this will impact their decisions.

I think Karen did hit John with her vehicle but couldn't remember the details initially due to drinking. The police didn't do a good job and took for granted everyone would blindly believe their findings.

So how do we have a fair an unbiased jury when they are forcing folks to jump on whatever side has the most votes. The jury should be held to a much more protected place regardless of the how the jury ends up

A good call by the judge to push straight ahead as it puts the prosecution under pressure to recognise the many weaknesses of their case revealed by the judgement of the jury

CW could have stayed their case in 2 weeks....they dragged out the trial to make it seem like there was "lots of evidence" of her guilt, when thete wasnt

This case should have never gone to trial. The investigation was so shady & bias it will be hard for any Jury to agree on a guilty verdict. The State will want to know how many Jurors voted guilty...if is a 10-2 they'll try the case again for sure..

That the only reason some people believe she's guilty because of her looks, is disappointing. Too much reasonable doubt to me

Thank you for the update

I still want to know, does the backup camera video exist !

Maybe its 11 NG of any charges. 1 saying guilty of all due to threats from Higgins n Albert

Will Lally actually be so dumb as to retry this case? Omg.....yes, he is!!!

I hope the commonwealth drops the case. There were too many doubts presented in this case. If she did hit her boyfriend with her car, it was involuntary manslaughter, not intentional, but the injuries on his body were questionable to being hit by a car.

Is it true that cases that are retried more often than not result in a conviction?

what was the Jury split numbers?

I agree people were strongly thinking she was innocent (90%) or guilty (10%) the difference is the people who thought she was guilty when asked do you have any doubt based on what was presented at trial? They would say no but ... I feel like people who felt she was innocent could talk for weeks on all of the Reasonable Doubt with actual info from the trial. When I would bring those things up to people who thought she was guilty they really didn't have any sort of response other than calling me names and saying Turtle Boy brainwashed me LOL I didn't even know who turtle boy was forever

What me convinced me that Karen Read was not guilty was the expert said that there were not body injuries in the midsection . That vehicle collided with the body there would be injuries. Though with them police and Karen being under alcohol influence made me dicussed.

What I would like to understand is how he could go inside, get beaten and be taken outside with his drink on his hands. I think she was mad and instead drive she accidentally reversed and hit him

How can the prosecution add to the evidence now? What could change to get 12 jurors to agree on guilty? I see nothing. No new trial for Karen Read.

Karen demon read. The fires a coming

How many voted to acquit?

The Canton PD are responsible for dividing their community

Thank you Lee! I missed your goodbye. See you at 7 ET 🌹

If anything the defense will get better witnesses with help of the FBI.

The jury deliberated 6 hours longer than trooper proctor investigated this crime.

What is that thing that woman sitting in front of the judge holds to her mouth?

Always knew it would be a hung jury .. the jury instructions were too complicated besides the commonwealth did not prove beyo nd a reasonable doubt

Maybe Karen Read can use Donna Adelson’s first class ticket to Vietnam!! 🇻🇳😂😂 PS: Looking forward to the GETAWAY GRANNY trial 👍

Can the defence team ask for a special prosecutor given Lally KNEW about the inverted video?! Also, can action be taken against Lally for using police evidence that was clearly doctored?

? What do think about Karen's safety in her community?

I cannot even imagine being on a jury for 2 months and missing my salary! I could never afford that! The “expert” witnesses get paid but the jury gets a measly pittance.

I'm sure this is not going to happen, but it would be really good if law enforcement would conduct a better, more thorough investigation. There were so many times their conduct didn't follow standard police procedure (collecting evidence in disposible cups from the neighbor, not searching the home where O'Keefe died in the front yard, waiting so long to interview some people, and more). I realize they can't go back in time and fix these things, but law enforcement never considered involvement by anyone else and their "investigation" into the circumstances was practically non-existent, unless it involved Karen Read. Anything they could use against her was all they were interested in. There are a lot of areas they could delve into much deeper. But they won't...

Lee, you truly deliver the most satisfying presentation and details. You are aware of what and how needs to fulfill our minds. Thank you and be blessed!😇♥️

If I were on that jury it would be deadlocked. I think imam one of the few who thinks she hit him. I would say not intentionally but possibly just because she was mad and drunk. I don't think she realized what actually happened. I think they over charged and I think the investigation was really sloppy.

Sorry, but it wasn’t the facts and evidence, it was all the drama which adds nothing to problem solving.

???? If the prosecutor decides not to retry Karen Read will she be considered to be Not Guilty?

The defense did not believe the dog did it and had no interest beyond creating a scenario were JO was in the house. It, in my opinion, it was snow spikes fitted under boots. That is why they did not want to go further with it. A retrial could see the prosecution go after this angle and find the fitting shoe for Read. Bit risky though, as who had the snow boots? Only my theory.

If someone want to find the truth, the evidence is long time gone. No justice for J.O.

I have a question about the jury forms. Do they normally have a not guilty option in them? I remember an argument about that and their not being an option. I wonder if that is the problem.

No motive. No proof of intent to kill. Innocent.

What is the lady doing in the court room with the microphone thing up to her mouth

I think people forget crazy things can happen fast. I know an elderly woman who's church was moving her lawn. Her grandson saw men in the yard around the house on the doorbell cam and rushed over with a gun wildly escalating a situation to dangerous levels. This could've been a deadly situation if the men hadn't kept their cool with the grandson, or if the grandson was just a tiny bit more unhinged. That being said, I can see how things changed truly fast in the house and JO was killed (accidentally or not) and then everything else unfolded. There's a reason the dog was rehomed, phones destroyed and a home sold all before anything could be properly investigated. All of the actions of the people inside the home and the police investigators are enough to create reasonable doubt no matter how many times they try the case. Add to that the true experts who say conclusively JO was NOT hit by a vehicle, there's no way to get to guilty. This case should be dropped. Further prosecution would be malicious imho and driven by emotions, hubris and ego rather than facts - especially with the federal investigation hanging over their heads. This was their best shot and they lost. It's over.

dog bites are the reasonable doubt to me

Reasonable. Doubt. Someone needs to explain that to this disappointing jury

Well at least in the retried wont see Proctor ,, the C u next Tuesday 😊😊

???????if she didn't kill him and that whole group was drinking, now she's not guilty of murder, but she was the only one of alll these drinkers that can be charged for drinking. It's like you didn't kill, you must be guilty of something....what?????

Community could complain this is more taxpayer money

Proctor was relieved of his duties and transfered to another department today after the verdict.

I'm amazed. I thought there was so much evidence to give more than an element of doubt. I only think I've heard one pundit/podcaster say they thought is he was guilty. Even he was having his doubts. The drama continues.

What happens if the 2nd trial ends in hung jury??

❓️❓️can the cw offer her a lesser charge for a guilty plea