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Karen Swallow Prior: How to re-enchant evangelicalism 

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Karen Swallow Prior is a Professor of English Literature and an award-winning author. Her most recent book is 'The Evangelical Imagination: How stories, images and metaphors created a culture in Crisis’.
Belle and Justin speak to Karen about the role of the imagination in faith, what the term evangelical means today and whether it can be re-enchanted…
Karen Swallow Prior: karenswallowpr...
For Re-Enchanting: www.seenanduns...
There’s more to life than the world we can see. Re-Enchanting is a podcast from Seen & Unseen recorded at Lambeth Palace Library, the home of the Centre for Cultural Witness. Justin Brierley and Belle Tindall engage faith and spirituality with leading figures in science, history, politics, art and education. Can our culture be re-enchanted by the vision of Christianity?

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@JamesTippins
@JamesTippins 2 месяца назад
I have been trying to have this conversation in my circles for a few years. Thank you all for this VITAL conversation. Until we DETANGLE our faith from the cultural programming of our day, we will not live truly FREE in the Gospel. Thank you, Karen. Thank you S&US
@thewrightoknow
@thewrightoknow 2 месяца назад
On the abortion issue and how evangelicals respond to the issue of women seeking/wanting an abortion. How should we respond to someone who says I want to kill my child, is that Ok with you? Imagine someone says my 4 year old is driving me nuts and I am going to kill my child, is that OK with you? Would we express compassion and connection with someone who commits premeditated murder? I would like a dialogue on this issue, to me it is that B&W?
@loritischler1755
@loritischler1755 2 месяца назад
False parallel.
@thewrightoknow
@thewrightoknow 2 месяца назад
@@loritischler1755 Please educate me why this is a false parallel. Thanks for your comment, eager to understand.
@drunkenpolitician1
@drunkenpolitician1 2 месяца назад
@@thewrightoknow When I have seen someone respond "Please educate me," I have been around long enough to know to doubt the genuineness of the request. But I will respond, briefly, without offering follow-ups, to one thing you've written: "Would we express compassion and connection with someone who commits premeditated murder?" I have. I have been doing so since 2007 when I've begun regularly visiting prisons and jails. And I do believe that we are, in fact, called to do so when in Matthew 25, Christ tells us to visit the prisoners, and that by doing so, we are found to be of the kingdom of God. In context, visiting the prisoner is not just to say hello. At the time, it meant bringing the prisoner food, water, the necessities of life, to keep the prisoner alive, to show the prisoner that his or her life is precious. I am not naive. When a man has told me that his sentence is life plus a hundred years, I know why he's in the prison. Whoever were his victims, they are lost to us, their precious lives, but we also have the person before me. Yes, Christ wants the effort to reach him, and not many people try. If you are serious about learning (I doubt it), then how about trying something I think Dr. Prior implicit recommends here. I'd like for you to read a novel that many people who have read it have enjoyed: Please read Fyodor Dostoyevsky's Crime and Punishment. See if you can come through reading that without thinking that perhaps even in the killer, there is a life requiring our consideration. Have I ever known of a woman who has killed her child? As a matter of fact, yes. The online social media response was calling for her execution without trial. I can say that if she was found guilty, she has to go to prison. Then what? You need an answer for this in a way that isn't limited to a cultural answer. I am, with this reply, questioning the premises of your first response to Dr. Prior. Wrestle for yourself with the question of what mercy should be for a woman facing an abortion. I can tell you that I won't credit an answer that would not literally help in the literal way that Matthew 25 requires.
@thewrightoknow
@thewrightoknow 2 месяца назад
@@drunkenpolitician1 Thanks for your response to my question. I have not heard of a False Parallel before. I think we should have compassion on someone in prison who committed pre meditated murder. I am for the death penalty. But if a person has not been given the death penalty every care should be taken that they be treated with dignity in a prison that is safe, non violent and counselling , etc... I think abortion is murder, but if a women has had an abortion, every care should be given to her and not abusive words and judgements. Everyone is created in the image of God. Again, thanks for your comments. I have many friends who at totally in opposition to my values and beliefs and respect them and enjoy their company. Blessings.
@grantsmythe8625
@grantsmythe8625 Месяц назад
Prior: "...and yet all that emphasis on conversion has brought about this crisis of good discipleship that we see today." Justin: "...if all it takes to be a Christian is to pray the 'Sinner's Prayer'...."
@loritischler1755
@loritischler1755 2 месяца назад
Loved this!!! Thank you!
@williambranch4283
@williambranch4283 2 месяца назад
Better theology. Being spirit full is necessary but not sufficient.
@grantsmythe8625
@grantsmythe8625 Месяц назад
"Re-enchant" Evangelicalism? How about re-Christianize it? Or de-cult it? I'm an American and things are different here, admittedly, but something must be done here in the West. I, for one, am not giving up Christianity and I am NOT going to become an (American) Evangelical.
@newtonfinn164
@newtonfinn164 2 месяца назад
Can evangelicalism free itself from the transactional Christ, whose death saves us from our sin and consequent damnation (but only if we so believe), which would also entail freedom from biblical literalism (given that certain biblical passages support the transactional Christ)? IMHO, such religious overbeliefs, to borrow William James' wonderful word, are dead in the water of Western civilization; indeed, seem to most, even most theists, as not only false but silly. Ironically, the only form of Protestantism that might have a future would seem to be the old liberal, free-thinking mainline church, focused on following the teachings--the model--of the historical Jesus as an avenue toward God--a form of faith which nourished me so deeply and beautifully yet died during my lifetime for largely cultural reasons...only to rise again? The key is recognizing the Bible as human words, however inspired, about God, as opposed to God's words directly spoken to humans.
@mrepix8287
@mrepix8287 2 месяца назад
Liberalism is a false religion
@HiHoSilvey
@HiHoSilvey 2 месяца назад
Ultimately, we have to answer the same question Jesus asked Peter: "Who do you say that I am?" If Jesus is who he said He was, then He did, in fact, rise from the dead and what He said about Himself is trustworthy. “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." Jesus specifically uses the Greek article for "the"--not A way, or ONE way. Again, if Jesus is who he said he was, then the Bible is itself trustworthy. Would the One who upholds creation be unable to guard the truth of His word against corruption as Muslims claim? 2 Timothy 3:16 states, "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness". This verse is the only place in the Bible that uses the Greek word theopneustos, which means "God-breathed, inspired by God, due to the inspiration of God". Both liberal mainline protestants and many contemporary evangelicals have been captured by the culture. The problem I have with many "mainliners" is that they have fallen into apostasy believing the Bible is inspired in spots and they are inspired to pick out the spots. The problem is, as Jeremiah states it, "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it?" The problem I have with many evangelical churches is that they have become untethered from historic Christianity. That's another long discussion. Jesus, unlike all other major moral teachers in history, didn’t come to bring good advice as much as he came to bring good news (which, from that foundation, comes the greatest advice). HE is the good news. And instead of telling us “what to do to be saved”, he tells us “it has been done”, now trust and believe. Jesus never bids us to come and follow a formula; He bids us to follow Himself.
@williammiles459
@williammiles459 2 месяца назад
@@HiHoSilveyI agree; scriptures and the Spirit witness to each other as to the Truth (way).
@grantsmythe8625
@grantsmythe8625 Месяц назад
Wonderful comment.
@Magnulus76
@Magnulus76 Месяц назад
The transactional Christ has also tended to go more towards producing Jesus-worshippers rather than Jesus followers. Jesus point all along was to preach and demonstrate the Reign of God, embodied in his own life. And Evangelicalism has tended to overlook this in favor of Jesus as mythic and personal hero.
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