and just recently kpop stans were making fun of bts and how they got a mcdonald’s collab and not a high end brand and then like a day later bts became ambassadors for louis vuitton 😀
I'm sorry. maybe it's the broke bitch in me, but who said mcdonald's isn't high end? it's the highest of ends! like, I remember having happy meals that had toys promoting movies like kung fu panda and lilo and stitch. bts would definitely be otw to becoming a household name with a brand like mcdonald's 🧐
@@jch6809 it’s the haters istg and now i’m looking at the comments under McDs tweet and they’re all begging for a collab with their faves after literally making fun of bts for it skdkhdhs it irks me
Just like how last week a fandom was clowning us for being excited about Btsxmcdonalds collab and talking about how their group are ambassadors for luxury brands. And then 2 days later bts became the house ambassadors for Louis Vuitton. 🤡 karma REALLY is an AMRY.
literally just become army last year and i'm 23 and i have never seen a fandom as organized and strategic (and philanthropic, diverse, widespread, etc..) as army in my entire lifetime.. it's really incredible. literally this fandom spans ages, language, ethnicities, countries, and BTS eras. its insanity
ofc there are going to be some toxic people in the fandom but i don't think they compare to the majority of the fandom. just recently ARMY has been making donations for COVID relief in India and organizing food drives/donations for the BTS meal promotion. the charity is unheard of and unmatched honestly and the fact that it is done without solicitation speaks volumes
Every Fandom has toxic moments there will always be toxic people in EVERY fandoms but many people call army the most toxic Fandom like other fandoms aren't
@@kashawnnanorman8497 right like I'm not tryna put any fandoms down because like I myself am a multistan but recently stays (straykids stans) sent death threats to either atiny or ateez (it was one of them but I don't remember) but Like yeah every Fandom has toxic people
Frrr cuz like we're big so despite the percentage of toxic fans are smaller we are still larger in number 😭 then we have to deal with those non fans coming at us 😭😭
bro i won't forget when kpop fandoms teamed up together on twitter to "kick bts and army" out of the kpop category but start hating when we say "btspop" bc we don't wanna be associated with them LIKE 😭 pls they're acting like they're not on their coat tails whenever some non army says bts actually makes good music when they're the ones begging in the comments to "check xxx instead" or "listen to xxx instead" gtfo 😭
we didnt even create the btspop thing KOREANS themselves created that. armys just ran with it. koreans say bts is above the kpop category. and kpop in general isnt even liked by majority of koreans. its the least popular music in korea. thats why they say bts shouldnt be with kpop theyre artists on their own.
"yall don't do unprovoked shit" exactlyyyyy! that's the difference between us and other fandoms I think. We clap back when someone says something bad about bts, but we don't go out of our way to shit on other artists. these other kpop fandoms trend hashtags to hate on bts but we never do anything of the sort even though we have the power to. we only attack when provoked
That’s been my experience in Twitter and IG, yes. Absolutely. Not saying we are perfect as Army, but the majority is other fandoms trying to insult BTS, us defending them, then other fandoms playing the victim, a good portion is like that. I have seen a thread over and over again where an artist , doesn’t matter reaches #1 On BB, then instead of those stans celebrating the #1 of their fave artist, they start laughing how BtS is not #1 and how BTS success is inorganic and rather forced by bots ( referring to Army). So we , as army defend them, then the antis turn around and play the victim/woman/race/ you are meanie/ armies are toxic, etc. and then they hide or delete the tweet to start the cycle again when BB or the chart stats start tweeting how so and so has reached number one and thats how it goes the merry go round
Army is THE celebrity fandom. We are always trending even if it’s not bts related and people are literally always in our business. Like we can’t make a joke or talk about how much we love and adore bts without kpoppies and west-poppies trying to start fan wars so they can get hit tweets
THIS! I remember during the capital riots a person asked where the army were at and another person commented "busy sending threats" 💀 that tweet lives in my head rent free lol
Well what ever say hate or love towards BTS still a comment about them and make people more curious about them. I never knew BTS But then I heard they received lots of bad comments and that opened my eyes and appreciated them. So yeah 💜
EVERY FANDOM HAVE TOXIC FANS EVEN WE DO BUT THE THING IS WE ARE TOXIC FOR THE HATERS WE DON'T GO OUT THERE ON TWITTER AND PUT OTHER FANDOM DOWN BY SAYING YOU CAN'T DO THESE OR THAT WE ARE ONLY TOXIC FOR THOSE WHO DON'T RESPECT BTS OR ARMY 💜
For me what's funny is that army don't even know their fav names but they know every thing about bts and army. They don't have life lol n we r the main character
@@meeransyhjtj7166 haha english is not my first language, what I meant was we army don't know obout kpop groups names we don't try to lurk but alot of Kpoppies and antis know about what bts is doing and army are doing
in my opinion, armys aren't just powerful because of it's quantity. this fandom is very organized in so many ways and we listen to each other unlike other fandoms. we do have a lot of bad apples tho. but most of them just clap back to the haters, a lot are baby armys and 12 year olds.
The organization is unreal. When I started stanning BTS and then 'Butter' was released, I was quite surprised to see how ARMYs would send instructions to others on how to stream (this is information I didn't know I had needed). Plus, how to vote on the different awards the group was nominated for. Most of these awards I'd never heard of and wouldn't have known to vote if they hadn't passed the message along. And that is just the basic. Sometimes you hear of all the activities ARMYs are engaged in and for real, it makes you so proud to be part of such a fandom. We may fight amongst ourselves, but when it comes to our boys, we band together like nothing else.
bro just this last week kpop stans were dragging bts for not having any luxury brand deals only for them to sign with louis vuitton a few day later as house ambassadors
BTS: - *56 DAESANGS,* most for any Korean artist. - 27.2M physical album sales with only 17 albums (the next k-act only have 11.7M sales with 18 albums) - BTS won Social Artist for 4 consecutive years & Best Duo/Group for 2 yrs in BBMAs. (as usual, Toxic Kpoppies are mad af) - BTS is the 1ST & ONLY korean group to perform in BBMAs - About the Grammys, Western artists' fans were mocking BTS & Armys for not winning. 1st of all, even their faves were struggeling to win their first award in their OWN hometown & the audacity to laugh on a Asian group. Lmao. Their faves even struggles to enter Charts & be nominated here!! BTS is the ONLY ARTIST (in this century) to reach #1 on ALL Top 10 Biggest Music industry with only 1 Album!! Even Taylor can't do that (no hate to Tay but this is the truth). - About Sold out stadiums/Domes/Field BTS Sold Out EVERY stadium they went to .... A company even lied to fans that their group sold out every stadium they went to in North America which is a LIE (the group is talented but the agency sucks!!!) - They are the FIRST & ONLY FOREIGN ARTIST to perform & sold out a Stadium in Saudi Arabia. - The only NON-ENGLISH ACT to sold out Wembley, Rose Bowl & Citi Field. Edit: Another daesang for the boys 😊 (57 daesangs now)
And as of today(25th May 2021) BTS is still standing strong having broken every record in the history of YT with 108 M views on Butter in their first 24 hours and sweeping away 4 goddamn awards at the BBMA's. Like seriously though haters can be funny as hell.
As an army I have never talked shit about another group even when I'm provoked I clap back at the person but not at the group and for that I am proud 😗🤌🏼
Tbh we have some toxic army’s and in all fandoms too in my opinion Kpop is too big to not have toxic people. But I do think the groups don’t have any problem with themselves just the toxic sight of the fandoms
Egbe Nelly Lately I've been paying more attention to Western fandoms, too, and.. it's all the same. The toxic people are in every fandom, and they all behave in the same negative ways. It's almost an illness, honestly. I feel like it must be so unhealthy for the people who keep putting out so much conflict and negativity into the world. And we'd all be better off if we stopped blaming individual fandoms for such behavior, and just called out the behavior itself, no matter who's doing it. 💜
Recently, other fandoms were dragging BTS for being ambassadors of Mc Donalds. They were saying their favs were ambassadors of famous brands and etc. Karma came and hit them when BTS announced all 7 of them were ambassadors of Louis Vuitton (Which is the biggest fashion brand right now). They also teamed up with western fans when BTS “lost” the Grammy. They hate on Dynamite because of what it has achieved. However there are a lot of armys who are toxic, but most times people just call us toxic for fighting back and protecting BTS from them. I will say there are a lot of toxic armys who starts the fights and hate on other groups (they can’t handle criticism). I’m usually the one who stays on the side and only interferes when it’s necessary. Other than that, armys aren’t toxic unless u say something bad about BTS, we’re like family, we protect one another and wouldn’t want anyone being disrespectful and rude towards our family. You could say we’re like the overprotective siblings of all 7 members.
@@mami11420 Yea it’s a collab, but I think u missed my message. Other fandoms were attacking us for being excited about BTS X Mc Donalds. They started bringing up the brands their favs were modeling in. That’s all.
Some of the army ones starting sh*t isn't actually army though, it's trolls that have an army acct (and other fandoms). These trolls just like to see Twitter burn... People need to recognize when they're being trolled.
also ill be honest army DOES talk shit about other fandoms and artists BUT we NEVER were as vile. we just recently like 2018 recent started talking shit back because we are tired of being bullied. but we NEVER sent death threats, NEVER trended hashtags against other groups, and majority of the time we DONT START we respond back with the same energy. or try to ratio antis to get them to go private/delete. but thats AFTER they start with us first. ive been a army since 2018 and i have yet to see a LARGE fanwar started by armys with nothing provoking us first.
I appreciate your passion but pls don’t paint army as ‘better than’ other fandoms. I’d say proportionally, all fandom probably have the same amount of toxic to non toxic fans and ‘ARMYS’ have definitely sent death threats and harassed people. I used air quotes cause ARMY doesn’t stand for that but you get the picture. Being a part of a community means being aware of the faults (both fandom and artist)
@@zoeehh373 nope ARMY have never sent death treaths to others, because if they really did it, it would become a huge topic online but it's not because there's nothing!
@@zoeehh373 it's just giving same energy back to the ppl provoking and saying/spreading shit about BTS and Army..so i don't think ppl like that need sympathy for getting what they asked for🤷🏻♀️ we are not saints to be quite and ignore other k-popies shitting on us! We 👏clap back👏 *you ain't gonna see Armys attacking someone unprovoked* and when we clapback to the hate in their way "they call us toxic" which makes ppl think we are toxic.. they play Army toxic card & dumb ppl believe them..you gotta see hate BTS and Armys get on daily basis unprovoked! Gurl you don't even need to be on twitter for long to even see that..the amount/ the ratio of hate BTS and Army get on daily basis is way beyond any k-pop fandom could ever imagine..the way butthurt k-popies group together, the way antis create fake Army account just to hate BTS and Army or to show Armys bad is way way more.. *stop normalising "Armys also hv lot of toxic ppl"* cuz no hon... it's just the image created by k-popies grouping together, it's just over exaggeration of the term "Armys are toxic" ...i could easily name a fandom wayyyyy more toxic, where the fandom itself doesn't get along with ppl having different biases or i could say..a fandom filled with solo stans👀
@@aishwaryaahirrao I’m sorry if this comes across passive aggressive and condescending but its very easy to word vomit in comment sections. That’s not my intention but I am frustrated with the continued narrative that ARMY is perfect and I am sorry that its coming out here But i dont know how to phrase this in a way that doesn’t sound like i am frustrated (not with you individually, just with the patterns i see) I’m not saying ARMY doesn’t get hate, I’m not saying BTS doesn’t get hate, I’m not saying ARMY doesn’t clap back which where is the majority of their ‘toxic’ (in quotes cause I know a lot of it isn’t actually toxic) reputation comes from. I’m saying positive generalisations are just as unrealistic as negative generalisations. ARMY also has solo stans (toxic), ARMY also has people who will put other groups/idols down to put BTS on a pedestal (toxic), ARMY also has people who refuse to acknowledge the toxic sides of all large communities (including but not limited to Kpop fandoms) and continue to gaslight people who try to say ‘not all ARMYs are rightfully responding to hate BTS gets’ (ignorant). Most are amazing, most are lovely, most of ARMY are the kindest people you will ever find. But not all. Some are racist, colourist, classist, sexist etc, and some will definitely hate on other groups or idols to get a response or send death threats to people who they disagree with. (I dont mean dt that actually draw a response from companies, I’m talking dt on instagram, twitter that the artists or fans will see which may not contain a credible physical threat to their lives, but are still damn despicable and cruel). If we ignore these actions (which are done in the name of ARMY if not by actual ARMYs) then we can’t combat the stereotype and we will further the reputation of being toxic and blind to the community’s faults. Hypothetically, if I sent you 1000 ARMY accounts, would you swear in your life that none of them have ever done a single ‘toxic’ thing in their life (including but not limited to hating on other artists, hating on other members of BTS, hating on other fans for opposing views, doxxing other fans, dt to other fans/artists, gaslighting people who fairly criticise BTS/ARMY etc) and that last one doesn’t include responding to hate. I understand that people play the ‘ARMY is toxic’ card an awful lot. People also play the ‘Blinks are toxic’ card as well. Some ARMYs are toxic, some Blinks are toxic. Some of every single large group of people are toxic. But most are nice and the nice ones are the reason i enjoy this fandom and respect people who enjoy other fandoms. I’m glad you have had god interactions with other ARMYs, a lot of people don’t. That’s all i was trying to say in my original comment, please don’t say that ARMY is ‘never as vile’, because that invalidates and gaslights everyone who has vile experiences within ARMY. Maybe not on scale you’re describing, but its vile all the same
"You don't even have your face on the profile" Hahaha. Facts. I think from now on we should stop taking serious anything people with no face on the profile put out there.
There are some seriously toxic Armys and some who get triggered as a hobby, but they're in no way the majority: you know the worst people on the internet are the loudest and make everybody look bad.
That's wht different, for us those ppl are the minority of this fandom but for some of them it's basically look like the majority of them are like that.
The fanwars with ExoLs were legendary. I remember how badly things were in 2016 and 2017. First daesang they said was a charity award. But when BTS won the second one, ExoLs completely lost it. Writing petitions to the President of the country. It was crazy.
armys really don't drag other groups and if someone does , we tell them to delete.. we just brag about how amazing bts is with the vocal line and rap line (which I think almost all fandoms say) and we keep on saying this one statement BTS PAVED THE PAY" and kpopies get mad at this 😂🤚 ... but yeah we don't drag other groups unprovoked
BTS are all humble good guys that show acceptance to everyone, they're deserving of every accolade, haters gonna hate but Army are there to love BTS up.💜💜💜
And yes army fight with every fandom basically about anything and everything but it most likely that the other fandom r talk shit about us and recently there was a big fight with nct is fandom and who face the consequences of that was jimin bc they went HARD on him for no reason 😪😪😪 go check it out too
It's like this. When haters say that BTS can't do this or that, we army take that as an inspiration to work hard and make those things possible that the haters say we can't do.
Tbh army can be crazy to people who don’t know anything about bts. Yes there is some toxic army out there but a lot are good and pure😇. Army can be very protecting when it comes to bts. Bc they love bts and don’t want to have bts go through more pain.
Honestly! The worst thing anybody wants to do is test the wrath of ARMY by belittling BTS or saying anything wrong about them😂 The love is massive and too real.And yes, I'm part of ARMY... Proudly!
Thanks for saying that Armys are cool ☺️ And well to answer your question, there have been bad armies, like rude and stuff and there are people like that in Army and other fandoms too even today, unfortunately... But Armies nowadays and even back then try to stay always educated on matters around them, because we don't want to be rude or hurt annyone 💜 I think that's the thing that makes us so "powerfull" and big - we just want to be a family and kind to eachother, I think we're one of the most nátuře fandoms out there (tho there's always ppl who act rude and literally hate on others without a normal reason and call themselves very proudly "ARMY" 😟) I hope I answered ur questions and just to be sure, this is my opinion after being in this awesome family since 2018 only, I've never even had a chance to see how fandoms acted before that, I've never taken part in those "fandom wars" that were in 2014-16 etc. But well now I can proudly say that i'm an happy ARMY cuz I'm lucky to meet all the nice people all around the world ☺️💜🙏🏽 thank you for your videos, I love them, you have really nice opinions and clear mindset about honesty, love u for that!
Latest karma? BTS Being mocked for not being ambassadors of a luxury brand. Just for all 7 members being announced House Ambassadors for Louis Vuitton 2 days ago 🤣.
tbh i prefer the old editing style more cuz then i can see your full reaction. But it's totally up to you which style you prefer. I will still enjoy the videos.
the stupidst part about other fandoms comparing them to other their faves, and just fandom wars in general, is the fact that idols be handing out together ALL THE TIME
bro, believe me... for every other fandom we are the bad guys 😭 and there're definitely toxic stans among us too, cuz we're huge and it's really annoying, but as far as I see it, most of the "hateful" tweets armys make are NOT unprovoked
The thing here is...some of the other kpop fandoms started acting very exclusive and defensive when BTS was on the come up because it caused competition with their favorite groups. They took their feelings out on BTS. Army were never intentionally as gruesome as some of the other fandoms but when things got personal there's only so much someone could take before they retaliate with that same energy. Fandoms started to clash with each other and it wasn't the prettiest of scenes. Fanwars spread out and then it got to a point where it was just ridiculous. Some other fandoms even try to catfish as army and pretend to be BTS fan accounts, to say some out-of-pocket shit and make us take the blame. They'll put all their efforts to make us look bad and insane, instead of towards helping their favorite artist grow within their career. They're also are the sasaengs which are stalker-like obsessed lunatic "fans" that will do anything for attention, we don't associate ourselves with them or tolerate that kind of behavior within the fandom. Some other fandoms actually try to be nice for the most part now but since ARMY are considered the "largest k-pop fandom" and the "face of the kpop community", despite not being a part of it, we get blamed for quite literally EVERYTHING, nowadays. So we just mind our own and try to get together with BTS and help each other succeed and be happy.
We are the most sweet large, diverse fandom ever! I’m a 51 yr old Canadian on disability, I’ll always find a way to support these kings, even leaving a wheelchair behind to rock the front row…. Still walking ….!
I'm an ARMY for a year now. Honestly, I'm not engaging in fan wars or being a toxic Army, But whenever I read hatred comments about BTS that's the time that I will defend them proving them don't try to mess with ARMYS!
Honestly I don’t even know why these kpop Stans even try to downgrade BTS. Just recently, they made tweets about how their faves have a partnership with famous fashion brands and BTS has a collab with McD and army did clap back at them saying they are musicians and not models, and also the fact that BTS has rejected many offers from these top brands and supported the small businesses instead due to covid, there have been many articles about it. But exactly 2 days after that, Louis Vuitton announced their collab with BTS, all 7 of the members being the global ambassadors of LV. And now suddenly the entire kpop Twitter started saying that “I thought they were musicians”. Like there’s nothing that BTS has NOT given to us.
In my opinion, people call us toxic because we're protective over the boys, admittedly sometimes overly so. Since our fandom is successfully big and sincere, people really have nothing bad to talk about us. That's why they use the word 'toxic' and dismiss all the actual good things we have done, like charity work and education help 🤷♀️
Just remind that toxic ppl is everywhere. But please remind too that there are still positive and Open minded too. That ppl from others who said those things are jeloused and tried to uplift their own artist in wrong way. If you go to twitters, sooo more many toxic ppl... so sad, but lets try this. Ignore them. Just do our thing to make ours better and better than keep them shut by our succed...
There is toxicity everywhere. There have been times where I was ashamed of ARMY, but honestly in this day and age it's hard to tell which comments are coming from true ARMY or Blinks or another fandom, and which are fake accounts just to start shit. The best that any ARMY can do is to stand up to the toxic ones in our own fandom because in the end the fandom represents their idols and BTS deserves better. People tend to dwell on the negative aspect of the fandom but ignore the worldwide efforts of humanity constantly being made by ARMY who are trying to make the world a better place. There are so many under appreciated projects that can really show the positive influence that BTS is making.
honestly the worst part about “army’s” are solo stans but no actual real army takes them seriously (we clown them all the time) because why would you only like one member and hate the rest .
Well kpop's fandoms are very toxic, some in a very rude, aggressive way and others in a less way. There are some toxics even in ARMY but not as much as in the others.ARMY can be rude when BTS is attacked. But for example most part of Exo fans are really toxic. When one of the members became father the same fandom went to the SM ENTERTAINMENT building in order to make a petition :"this idol has to leave the group", they even sent messages to this idol asking him to leave the group, just because he became father. Exo is an amazing group, they have amazing vocals, they are very good people,their music is different to BTS's music, they don't deserve that kind of fandom neither that company. As always I love your reaction. 💜
Even Namjoon & Suga know. Namjoon said that they are afraid / thought that Butter just gonna stay at Hot100 for 1 week and flop. Then people gonna said "ah... It's time they are changed with other groups." "Ah... It's started." "Ah... They are old..." But then he goes "5 weeks on hot100 broohhh" ( dancing mocking the antis )
12:58 and the art it makes when you connect all 12 of the albums is gorgeous. For those who don't know LY series has 3 albums, the physical albums have 4 versions (with different concept photos in each). When you connect them it spells out "Love Yourself" and the string becomes a heart in Love Yourself: Answer.
I knew you would love this...........No it's not them ...it's Karma...And also anything Suga wishes for ...happens...That's why RM defers to Suga when they ask what their next goal is
Yes, in every fandom you have sadly enough people like that. Also the Big Three companies did a lot of bad things. BTS and BigHit die the right thing by taking the bad people to court and let the law handle it. Also writing songs and dishing those kind of people. They were/are dishing those people towards those people's bad behavior. The best way they did by being succesfull. BTS and ARMY are defending each other in a positive way. Like RM's lyrics; " haters gone a hate" in McDrop. Enjoy your journey of BTS. They are so diverse. 💜🍀🇳🇱🌷🤗
I think you were spot on that ARMY don't do unprovoked shit. Sure, there is a subset of our fandom that is toxic on its own, that's bound to happen in any setting, but in my experience over the last 4 years or so, anything that ARMY have been involved in on a bigger scale was talking back to people. I can even give you the concrete example of Keemstar, that one drama youtuber, provoking us and then when people (obviously) retaliated, he took on the whole "see this is why you're so toxic and everyone hates you" attitude. It's all about freedom of speech until we talk back lmao.
ARMY's have rules like we don't argue with other fandoms and we don't spread hate we just report the rude comments and accounts and we just show our love to the boy's 💜💜💜💜💜
ARMYs are too focused on getting our guys awards and keeping them on the charts PERIODT. We don't have time to hate other groups, literally I'm still catching up on Run BTS and Bon Voyage etc episodes
17:50 army does talk shit but it’s mainly when we are doing clapbacks and are being petty. I won’t deny that we don’t say some vile shit to other fandoms and about their favs, but it’s mostly to give back what we’ve been dealt all these years
5:34 the voiceover reading it IS SO FUNNY AHAHAHA 'im going to let u win justin bieber' idk man this vid used to make me angry at 2018, now i just watch it to amuse myself
now it’s more like every fandom against us not just kpop 😪 the main reason people call us crazy and annoying is cuz of comments on posts that don’t have anything to do with bts but like promotion?? anyways we aren’t that bad we just mind our business now. coming from a 2017 army, the shit we had to go thru every time something happened was so crazy it was insane. we would breathe and they had a problem
Like srsly guys.... i personally don't get why there is reasons for fandoms to hate on one another other than jealousy. they are jealous that there is an artists out there getting more recognition and more awards than their artists. especially if bts was newer. the idols themselves are usually friends and like each other, there's no reasons for the fandoms to be at war. Like im a part of many fandoms including army, and i flipping love it when any of them achieve massive things! How hard is it to be happy for artists achievements! Like srsly?!
honestly the hair strand on the shower wall joke is actually funny to me as an army like come on AHAHAHAHA I enjoyed it but obviously did not appreciate the hatred behind it
As a multikpopstan (it means that I'm a fan of a lot of different groups) I can tell you that every fandom has good and bad people in it and has had good and bad moments. (armys, exo ls, blinks... ) There is a lot of toxicity in every Fandom (in fact there are a lot of fanwar between them), and there are fights even within the fandoms themselves, cause of solo Stan(they support only one member of a group), fans for being saesang fan (stockers of idols), just cause of dumb people that call them selfs fans but they actually aren't because they attact members of the groups they "stan" (toxic stans) SO NO FANDOM IS PERFECT and DO NOT JUDGE A GROUP BY ITS FANDOM (sorry if I made any grammar mistakes, English isn't my first language)
