same energy as her writing Blank Space ("what kind of song would I write if I *were* that person" 🤝 "what kind of song would I write if it *was* called Karma")
we bullied Taylor into ATW10, now Karma - I vote we start a train for a 10 minute version of Dear John. let's make up theories, pretend to find some nods to it... i think we can make it happen. come on, swifties. edit: Would've Should've Could've hurt me in a way I didn't think I could be. I take it back, I don't want a 10 minute version of Dear John. It wouldn't even be tea - he's just such a fucked up human being that the more insight we get, the more obvious it becomes that Taylor was so incredibly wounded that it's past the point of gossip-y vault tracks.
zach I'm very sorry to be kinda cringe and cheesy but I've been experiencing severe anxiety today and this video made me feel so much better. in general your channel really helps me relax and get out of my head so thank you!
Lolz. I laughed so hard when she laughed! So damn funny and she KNEW it was so damn funny!!! She clowning harrrrd!! (I’m sorry you were attacked) Karma a song, does not make Karma the album! 😊 I actually agree with your Karma argument ❤ also: isn’t Midnights TS10?
As a songwriter, i ecperience concepts for songs years before making them. The concepts are like a brainstorm of a song and are different fromsongs itself in a way, th Concepts can sit in your mind for years as intention but not in their realized state. Taylor had been bashed for a while before snske gate, so the closest i can see is a baby concept but no songs. And no this isnt a finushed song i think, maybe just reprospect of the time at best. If shes hinting at anything with that gif it could be that or the concept of karma itself but we never know this is all fun that we dont know!
so this song is new, but the 'lost' album is older. she wrote this new song called Karma that could be related to the 'lost' album, BUT IS NOT WRITTEN IN THE TIMEFRAME BECAUSE IT'S NOT TV AND NOT A VAULT TRACK. still i want the 'lost' album to be real, maybe released in conjunction with Rep TV? who knows
I think Karma is just like Zack Snyder version of The Justice League. For those who don't know Zack Snyder was directing The Justice League. A family emergency happened so he had to leave said movie. They eventually haired a new director Josh Sweden. He did the movie they released it and it was garbage. Then people started saying release Zack Snyder's version of the movie. There was 2 groups. One that believed that the movie was real and existed. And one that didn't believe it was real. I was in the middle. Where yes I believed it was real. Did I believe a full 100% completely fully edited ready to go movie existed. No! I did however believe the movie existed in the fact that yes a few scenes here and there were filmed. And that if they wanted to release Zack's version of the movie. There would have to be a considerate amount of work to be done. Essentially just finishing filming the movie. And that's somewhat exactly what happened. And that's what I believe "Karma" is. I believe that yes Taylor at some point inbetween 1989 and Reputation had a concept/idea for an album called "Karma". What I don't believe is she has a fully complete mixed and mastered ready to go 13 track unreleased album in the vault. I do believe that she may have a few lyrics here and there. Maybe a few voice memos. Or even a melody or two. And that track 11 "Karma" is a song built from the small amount of pieces. She had from an idea for a album she was once working on. Before shit went down and we eventually got Reputation. I also believe that the pieces and ideas she has for "Karma". Is enough to maybe squeeze out 2, 3 maybe even 4 vault tracks on Rep TV. And if she were to release the album "Karma". There would have to be a considerate amount of work to be done. Because the album doesn't exist in the fully complete fashion that swifties are making it out to be. And she would essentially have to make the entire album basically from scratch. Since the small amount of ideas she has for the album. Isn't enough to make the album if that makes sense.
I didn't comment this on your other viedeo about Karma because I was lazy to do so, but... When I think of a lost album that was being done before Reputation, I think of an album of songs written BEFORE the Kimye drama. That's how this theory was presented to me. And when I think of said (probably only half done) scrapped album, I think it was scrapped PRECISELY because of the Kimye drama, because after that she had to make an album that addressed the cancelation situation (i.e. Reputation). Why I think so? Because, to me, the biggest indication of the scrapped album is the LWYMMD scene in which Taylor saws off the wings of her TS6 plane and then does a "reputation" graffiti over it. I also think that maybe some of the songs that were supposed to be on the "lost album" were partly re-written and still added to reputation (there's indications of a song being written on 2015 and then being on Reputation, I don't remember which song exactly, but is a song about Joe... So it had to be a concept she already had, but then re-wrote it to be about Joe after she met him). So there's probably not enough material to make a whole new album, and possibly the scrapped songs that didn't make it to reputation then are going to be on reputation TV. Now... How does Taylor announcing a song called Karma impact the lost album theory in my opinion? Well... It seems clear that our connection of the word "karma" to the lost album theory was *incorrect* . Maybe the appearance of the word karma twice on the albums wall of the The Man MV was supposed to hint at the karma Scott and Scooter would suffer after she re-recorded all her albums (we supposed that the wall only has her albums, but there still is a sign that prohibits scooter, so the wall does have more than just albums). Maybe she put two karma's on the wall because each one represents a full new album that she will release during the re-recordings era (one of them being Midnights, and then, after 2 more re-recordings being released, we'll get TS11, and, finally, the last 2 re-recordings) to avoid losing relevance whilst re-releasing her old albums (as if she could lose relevance LOL). However, I think the lost album theory may still hold water if we disconnect it from the Karmas on the wall: what means that the lost album will remain lost, babies. Maybe the "lost album" didn't even have a name yet. Maybe one of the tracks from the reputation TV vault tracks is going to have the title that Taylor was considering to use as the name of her lost album. Maybe not. Only time will tell... ! Warning ! This is just a clowning/theorizing comment, nothing here is based on facts. This comment is rather based on speculations for the sole purpose of having fun and shouldn't be taken too seriously.
Taylor Nation said that they had put Spoilers in Lover, the man music video where he had peed faintly spelled Midnights (this was a few days ago) I have been watching them since I have been sick and at home all week
Girrrlllll karma is real. I’m so excited for this song my godddddd For me, karma the album was written during 1989 and had songs about Calvin!! I believe a collection of songs were written for an album prior to all the Kanye snake stuff happened. And this album was to be called karma.
watch his 1st video debunking karma 😭 sorry but she said in interviews of that time she didn't know what she was going to do next and wasn't working on an album. this was the time where she was lost after searching for acclaim with 1989 and didn't know what to do with herself when she finally achieved everything. she had NO free time especially on tour, she was out all the time and maybe wrote some songs but i don't think there's a concept or album from then
@@drawl13 she easily could have thought of the concept of karma AFTeR saying those things in interviews. Did you know that blondie is ALWAYS writing? She writes in planes, trains, buses, cabs, on napkins at parties. She writes QUICK and she writes WELL. Always has. No one else has been able to write on tour like she has (her first several albums) to consistently release albums every other year. I believe she was on stride for a new release in 2016 (karma) but BAM all that shit happened and it was scrapped. UNTILLLLL now. I’m so hoping the song karma will address all these allegations!!!
What if this is just retrospect of her reassessing the concept of karma in the middle of the night because Lorde knows i have been thinking about it these days
i don't understand how some people are making the connection that this means that the album was real😭 for me it just makes it more clear that it wasn't
"And that means that certain people will have to be a little more careful about what they say in public. Not gonna name names, but I think you guys can guess what I'm talking about." PLEASE say you just threw shade at that selfish Swiftie who was like "I'm not gonna help anyone get concert tickets because you don't deserve it and you're on your own"
I do think karma is a thing, but I don’t think it’s a even nearly full album, she said in an interview that it always takes her time to write songs for a new album, and that there are always ALOT of songs Inbetween the albums
I’ve been curious about lost material during the karma theory timeframe but seeing MMWM karma episode, I immediately was like- oh yeah- karma is not real. If there is lost material, it’s not that. It’s annoying that people think this is proof 😂😅 like guys- WHY WOULD SHE HAVE A KARMA ABLUM AND SONG THATS NOT ON THE SUPPOSED KARMA ALBUM? And the laugh? She’s laughing at us. 😂
I have a guess that Karma the song will be about us the Swifties. A lot of Swifties had sleepless nights staying up for Taylor content and I feel like she would reuse that word to dedicate it to us kind of like Long Live. Plus, the concept statement from a while back never directly mentioned herself as the only perspective, it said "We lie awake... we twist."
I knew she would pull an All too well 10 with Karma as well Let's trend Tell that bear to get outta my trashcan so we can finally get to listen to the greatest song ever
I think it's just one track, I even think maybe there was an album between 1989 and Reputation, but it wouldn't be titled Karma. But I'm not really sure about that, because if I really had an album, 🛴 would probably have already leaked. Since she wouldn't have the rights to the masters of this album either. But about the announcement of the track I see it more as a gift to us than confirmation of the existence of an album. We know that Taylor knows everything, so it's for sure that she is aware of this theory and wanted to give us a gift/troll.
I don't know if she'd keep karma to be a vault song in rep since we all know the base of midnights are sleepless nights which.. makes sense she'd have lots of those back then. Maybe she wrote the song now, but it's inspired by events happening around rep and she just named it karma to fuck with everyone and have a lil fun. That's my guess
Side note: I kinda feel like she had the idea of midnights in her mind way longer than we think! “Lover” was daylight in the first place and throughout the music videos we got some signs like the “the man” shiny blue font or the house in the end for lover mv So I think she wanted to have an album called daylight and then have another called midnights (u get what i mean?) But Tswift gave birth to our girl folky
What if... Karma is about her relationship with Frightful Adam (Calvin Harris)? The first song she ever releases about him specifically. I don't think Taylor is ever gointo to give us a new autobiographical song with details about her personal specific experiences ever again, because that would be such tabloid material, but... If she told us how Calvin "poisoned the well" and how she was "lying" to herself, it would be very interesting. The whole "Karma is real" thing from her vogue interview was done before the Kimye drama (to be fair, before she broke up with Calvin too, but, oh well...)
Yeah the tiktok conspiracy theorists seem conVINCED that Midnights was planned as the follow-up to Lover and I'm just baffled. The rollout for Lover could not be more different than what we're getting for Midnights. Just because Folklore and Evermore ended up being sisters doesn't mean every album has a secret twin.
She said that she could hint at someting 3yrs in advance. I think she had the concept idea roughly towards the end of lover era. She prolly was planning the next album to be midnights. But folk more came as a burst of inspiration in an unexpected situation ✨
I feel like if there was a "scrapped album" that was supposed to precede Reputation then it wouldn't be called Karma or the Kimye situation at all. It would be songs she wrote while on tour for 1989 and Calvin Harris and I just don't think Calvin could inspire much lol I feel like the Kimye, Calvin Breakup, HiddleSwift, year isolation, Joe relationship was all compact very tightly and she gave us that story for Reputation. The theory just doesn't make sense in the timeline
No Kanye situation happened in early 2016 Then she won Grammy for 1989 in February 2016 Bleachella happened from April 2016 Kimye gate happened in June Then she broke up with Calvin in June too She was hurt so bad that time There is no chance she would make a song titled Karma If she had an album scrapped, it is probably with Bleachella aesthetic Most of reputation written after she met Joe and she found herself back and found strength to expose Kimye back with LWYMMD
Saying karma was the album before reputation doesn't even make sense lmao, reputation is basically karma themed, is the same lol why would she throw away an album about the same thing that reputation is about? She just wrote the song karma after seeing the hype
I would just like to say that you would be very popular amongst brazilian swifties hahah all your unpopular opinions are actually our popular ones! I think the complete lack of content from taylor to her south american fans made us extremely skeptical HAHAH
I get so aggressive every time someone refers to the 73Qs video where she says “that Karma is real” come on delusional swiftness GIVE ME A BREAK. She just likes the word and the idea of it. She creates with it and that’s all. Agh the Karma album stans tire me out
Karma is in the Vault. She says it in her video. Karma can’t be released from the vault until Rep era is out of the vault too. Then we’ll know for sure. She said Karma is real. 😉
I don't know man, theories are just that, theories. Many of these songs could be old songs she wrote, many of those could have been written for an album that didn't happen 🤷♂️ yeah, maybe Karma, the predecessor of Rep, is a hoax, but that doesn't mean the theory is completely unfounded. ALSO, you interpreted her giggles as proof of a joke, but it could mean "y'all were right, here's what you've wanted".
I like watching your videos but you are wrong. Not about Karma as a whole album. Until Taylor says so it never existed but maybe these rumors started because of 1 song that she had written post 1989 or it is a complete coincidence and Karma is just a word that she likes to use, since lots of people have wronged her. Regarding Midnights Taylor has said herself that these songs are not newly written for the album but are a collection of songs that she has written throughout 13 sleepless nights during her life which actually makes them vault songs in some way. She never said that she wrote them specifically for an album that she released in the past but if we consider all her written songs that were never recorded vault songs than this is what they are.
Karma the album was never real. What more tea do you want from Taylor? It's not tea that drives your karma theories, it's entitlement. These Karma people make you think Reputation and her raw exasperation in the Lover era Rolling Stone interview wasn't enough for them.
The way that Taylor giggles after she announces karma… She knows that the stupid swifties are going to go insane. She really said “I watch the swiftologist and listens to the evolution of a snake and I know that they’re going to be attacked but they’re on the black list so idc”
@@theswiftologist honestly zach madeline should've at least waited to meet taylor before getting blacklisted ;) do you think evolution of a snake is still undiscovered by TN?
I want a song that really delves into the friends losing situation. I know she kinda touched on losing everyone in rep, but I want a deep dark song about when all her bestie girl squad stopped returning her calls. Or I want tea on the Karlie friendship breakdown.
if she does them every weekday from this point forward the last will be on october 13th... i think she'll announce the lead in that episode and release it on friday the 14th
What if Karma is a song about how fan theories affect her? The feeling of pressure or inspection she may feel when people dig into everything she does? I would fully love that. Also, I’m sure she did have some tracks written pre-rep that didn’t end up fitting with the vibe of the album…. She may have even had a concept in place for TS6 But there’s no way she had a full album ready to go.
@@finlayvicar4619 It could be a case of be careful what you wish for? She invites speculation and writes confessionally, but everyone has their limit and she may feel she’s backed herself into a corner now? I’m not 100% convinced of this by any means, just a thought I had…
Calling a track "Karma" is fan service from her. Exactly like releasing All Too Well 10. I'm standing with you! I also believe Taylor only wrote Karma to "surf" this Karma wave. Her giggles are proof
7:47 I agree completely. I came up with sort of the same theory. I feel like it's going to be an heartbreaking and introspective song about self-doubt. I think it could touch on the 2016 drama by being a reflection on how a lot of people were saying things like "Finally she got what she deserves" when everyone was "cancelling" her and how that affected her. I think this fits better with the sleepless nights theme of the album rather than a revenge song. Then again, I might be wrong😅 Edit to add that I also believe it's a brand new song and she probably chose the title on purpose
I love how the mastery of Taylor´s pr skills is in not doing anything. She can literally say a word and unleash chaos. by not giving any explanation she allows us clowns to come up with hypothetical scenarios to side with and fight each other over it, and all this does is create insane levels of hype. she knows people will assume this is undeniable confirmation of the karma albums existence, all the while not actually telling us anything. queen of pleading the fifth
The way I see it is: if Karma the Album were to be real, it makes absolutely no sense to release the title track on a different album. Therefore, even if Karma ever existed, we are NOT getting the album
I never thought of Karma as a Kimye response theory. I think of it as an album that would’ve been ready to go for Fall 2016 that would go along with bleachella vibes but then the Kimye drama happened and so it would’ve looked bad to release an album titled Karma about stuff that just wasn’t pressing and would be taken the wrong way through the media. Taylor is a machine when it comes to songwriting and I’d be surprised if she had written nothing for TS6 until after July 2016. Also, she wrote Karma on The Man wall which means she’s known about this song since at least 2020. I can see how midnights could be the TS8 concept before lockdown took her elsewhere. So while not all of the karma theory may be true, I really doubt she’s simply trolling us.
@@XEveryoneLovesEmilyX I was only a medium ish swiftie at the time and still every single one of my friends asked me about it and then pretty much everyone I mentioned liking her to for the next year was very like “I may like some of her songs, but I don’t like her”
1: Your vocabulary in this video is just 👌 2: What do you think about the theory of her holding the phone upside down = collab? Personally I think people are reaching and that theory is bs
I think Karma (the song) could be about Karma (the album); just teasing us about all the things that could have been songs - and still not saying if she ever recorded them or not.
Let's say thanks to Zach for getting this video filmed and edited so quickly!👏 Anways, I have to agree with what you said in the video. Taylor's 100% trolling us, and we love her for it.
Yeah, I get it, whether she wrote it for midnights or before then, still your point (I BELIEVE) stands (even though I'm STILL willing to believe that Karma *the album* not *song* existed) because as you said, you are talking about *THE ALBUM AND CONCEPT* that you claim isn't real, not a *SOING* that has the name Karma. so, in essence, they are *2 separate* things not related to each other *(in the sense of what you claim and the song she is releasing)*
