Both great units. Speaking from owning a teryx 4 with over 4K miles on the stock belt. I trust the Kawasaki cvt. I would much rather have to swap out a warn belt from time to time than have to rebuild a automotive style automatic trans. TEAM GREEN.
Good video. Kawis are a reliable machine as well. Nice to see Honda bring their performance up. Their ATVs were generally sub par except they had "Honda reliability". Seems like they tuned their SxS to match it's potential.
Here's my take. I truly like both machines but I'm not a huge belt fan. I've had 3 belt drive ATV's. Brute Force, Kingquad and Grizzy. King and Griz had nice CVT's. BF was so-so IMO. I've had lots of manual ATV's BTW. Anyway, recently I have bought a Honda Rubicon DCT and Honda Africa Twin DCT. Definitely a fan of the DCT although it is complex and hope to never have to mess it. What I don't care for in CVT's, and is magnified a bunch in the SxS, is the constant engine noise. CVT's always have the RPM up and when your just cruising around its annoying. My Hondas have always been quiet and I suspect the Talon is the same. I watched a video of guy who just bought a KRX and first thing I noticed was how constantly loud it is. Anyway, I like Kawa but likely would buy the Talon. Of course I've driven neither so take this for what its worth.
Mathew Hoopes we had a Foreman 500 and the engine noise was louder than the previous ones we’ve owned so we didn’t like that very much. The previous ones were quiet but we think this one was kind of a dud lol. I’m sure the DCT is more reliable than the CVT so I wouldn’t worry too much on having to work on it haha. The CVTs are simpler but would probably break easier. We haven’t had any belt issues from ours other than them slipping. The Talon gives out quite a bit of engine and transmission noise when you push that pedal down so I wouldn’t say it’s real quiet. But the preference is what matters. Thanks for watching!
I love my krx, the cvt seems to be working perfectly, I can punch it and it will throw dirt and leave ruts in the ground taking off and it will literally creep over rocks going up hill and down, I've had up to 65 with more to come and that's all I will ever need, I don't do sand dunes, I like the trails, since I got mine it seems like the sales of the krx have exploded, I see more and more of them all the time
Looked at and sat in both today side by side. No comparison! Kawasaki is WAY better built and thought out. KRX feels MUCH better sitting in it and has MUCH more leg room. The Talon feels like it is made for migets compared to a Polaris and the KRX has even more legroom. If I was buying a new 1000NA machine today it would be the KRX, and I'm a Polaris guy.
FIVE cup holders: DRIVER MAIN: PBR DRIVER SECOND: Spit Cup DRIVER ALTERNATE: water PASSENGER MAIN: PBR PASSENGER SECOND: Spit Cup (cause ole girl don’t swalla neither) Y’all know I’m right, even if not right in the head!😂 (All jokes aside, the only other piece of info I can think of is the sound…. Seeing as I would be using them for hunting, what is the idle sound and sound on a slight grade going 20MPH uphill in decibels? Yes, I know most aren’t using them for hunting, but there is a reason they are made with beds in them, and that is so I can bring home the bacon, venison, etc.)
Would love to see Kawasaki come out with a trail model. Something with less width would be a welcome addition. Have had both Honda and Kawasaki products both have been very reliable. I think they both look good. A shrunk down version of the KRX would do well. With less weight and dimensions the horsepower could stay the same and still be a very good trail machine. I don't think you can go wrong with either of these machine.
everyone keeps saying Kawa is low on horsepower, climbing up some trails just more horsepower alone isn't enough. I literally just saw a video here on youtube where the kawasaki went up some trails where the other two brands couldn't go, all stock models, no aftermarket upgrades
A lot of people don’t understand the difference between the belt system on the Kawasaki and Yamaha models vs Polaris and can am. The Japanese companies incorporate a hydraulic clutch in addition to the cvt system. This system keeps constant tension on the belt and never allows it to slip. Much longer belt life. Poop and CA use a tension method on their belt where the belt tension loosens and the clutch spins without engaging the belt. Once there is enough force the belt catches and starts spinning. Clutches sliding on belts is never a good thing, destroys them in short order.
Yamaha and Kawasaki both use a hydraulic clutch. They are the best cvt's in the business. Yamaha puts their money where their mouth is, 10 year warranty.
Team Wax Offroad That would definitely be interesting, as they make things slightly differently, more automotive, like Honda - but The Suzuki Way!! Cheers;)
Well I do love the huge fuel tank on The Kawasaki and I have had a few of there quads but this time around i think I will be going with the Honda Talon love the all gear transmission and the just the honda reliability. Just wish they made the 1000R in that blue color.
Typical Japan they only compete with each other (Honda,Kawasaki,Yamaha) but forget the real competition from Canada-Can-am and the U.S.-Polaris both of which have almost twice the horsepower roomier interior's and as good or better shock's and travel number's,they do the same with there motorcycle's
Hints the weight, research the suspension members and chassis. The KRX is a Tank, for better or worse! I have to be narrow minded with features but if the talon came with 30’s OEM, I’d be leaning hard that way. However, I’m on the fence right now >_
Team green!!! That’s Kawasaki looks badass!! I’d take it all day over the talon. But I won’t be trading in my turbo s anytime soon but I’ll definitely give a big consideration to the krx when I’m ready to buy again!
Has that turbo s been reliable? I heard that Polaris cuts quite a few corners in the suspension and transmission components that wear out or break prematurely.
sideskraft the turbo s has a lot of upgraded parts over the standard turbo. Bigger front differential, stronger axles, beefed up frame, stronger suspension components, beefier trailing arms and front a arms. I haven’t had any issues with it yet and no squeaks or rattles but i only have 500 miles on it
Just sold my turbo s to buy the Kawi. Wish I would have bought the Kawi from the start would have saved 8k. More room, more comfortable. better throttle response, much nicer shifting into gear, bead locks, better looking less rattling. Ya my razor went almost 80mph but I didnt buy it to race. I do miss the Navi in the ride command unit.
Dirt ObseXXion yep we got a bunch of brands in our history just mainly those two haha! We may have to wait and see if prices go down before we find out whos gonna get one lol.
Great video! One thing to also consider is that the 6 speed DCT transmission on the Honda is much more efficient than any CVT, with a 95% power transfer from crank to rear wheel. The Average CVT loses 23% of it's power from crank to rear wheel, so the Honda's 104 HP will transfer to a higher rear wheel horsepower than the Kawasaki's 112 HP, then you can start considering the weight difference and the Honda definitely will be the faster more powerful machine. Also with it being more efficient, the Honda's 7+ gallon fuel tank may get you just as far as the Kawasaki's 10+ gallon fuel tank. We hope to see everyone stepping up their SXS game to keep this industry moving forward! Good job Kawasaki, but it's Ride Red for us!
Honda World I seen a drag race video between the KRX and a Talon somewhere (I can’t remember where) and the Talon actually beat the KRX! So I do believe the DCT makes a difference. Thanks for watching!
Honda is the only sxs manufacturer to offer 1yr warranty. That sums up a lot in my book, it's crazy considering where these things go after coming off the production line. Can am ain't got nothing on my 2020 talon x so I can only imagine where the green team stands.
What would be the point in muting it if I wanted to find out the differences between the two machines lol I didn't click on the video just to watch pointless video of them driving around. I was just pointing out it was funny
I have a 2017 teryx and still have 8 months left on factory 3 year warranty. When krx raises the warranty ill buy one but id miss the sound of the v twin
My krx says it has 114hp but enough of that, I think the weight of the krx is what helps it be better on the gnarly stuff, I have no problems with my krx, the only thing I don't like about it is how noisy it is, I have to wear ear plugs or headphones
I looked at a KRX and Talon today at a dealer that had both in the showroom. The KRX is definitely good looking and it's big. Yes the seats have very high density foam which contributes to the feeling of "sitting on" the seat compared to "sitting in" the seat. The Honda seats are a bit softer, not as soft as Maverick, and I feel more comfy in them compared to KRX. The KRX suspension and steering components appear to be beefier than the Talon which explains some of the big weight difference. It's apparent that the interior fit and finish of the KRX is not up to Talon standards and quite a bit lower than Maverick -- it appears similar in quality to Polaris and some of the Chinese brands. That being said, a lack of attention to details in the interior does not necessarily mean that the rest of the machine is not well finished or engineered. With Kawasaki's reliability and durability reputation, anyone who has it on their potential list of machines to buy should check it out in person and give it a test ride. Kawasaki would never release a production machine that hasn't been thoroughly tested (and thrashed). None of those OEM companies can afford to risk their reputation of product reliability by cutting corners on critical components, so we can thankfully be assured that whatever SXS we like, it will be fun and reliable, so long as it's not abused and is properly maintained.
IrishWariorKing I see your point of view. It is a lil pricey although it comes with a lot of extras from the factory. Hopefully it will drop later on. Thanks for watching!
TEAM GREEN it is a much nicer looking machine number one they don't give you the half doors and give you full doors more room in the cab bigger tires it just looks beefier than the Honda
I say thats 5 extra hp to push 300 extra lbs but honestly I would buy the krx. Saw one in person and it looks VERY well built. I felt safe inside it and lots of room. Very similar to a talon or an xp rzr
I am team honda ,but I do wish Honda will do a long wheel base model like the Kawasaki that's the perfect size if you want to modify your utv for racing so it will be more stable !
I own a talon and wish it had the kawasaki suspension but I absolutely don't mind my talon, I love everything other than that and the extra room in the kawi. rode in two kawis and i can say soft and loud. If you did bot hear that really loud I hated the ride cause I could not hear the person next to me and it was stock.
I agree, the Kawi has a good ride and is built like a tank but are extremely loud in cab! You can’t go wrong with a Talon, we have/had several and basically no issues. Thanks for watching
You’re reading the torque number for the Kawasaki of 78.4. RWH is much higher than the Honda at peak but even greater on average thanks to the bulletproof CVT that keeps the HP at the rear wheels higher and longer. Geared transmissions have a much lower average power output with peaky dyno graphs.
Ronald L Edgerton thank you!! And a lot of people go for Honda just because of the transmission. Maybe the other manufacturers will learn from it. Thanks for watching!
Hey y'all, I sell both and I have to say that as a SxS enthusiast...Kawasaki has done it again. This machine is built like a tank and there's already a Turbo Kit that raises the bar on Two Seaters... Boosts power to 175 go and comes with a clutch kit and springs. Sorry all you Honda fans, but Team Green knocked it out of the park with this one.
