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@markpearce5793
@markpearce5793 3 года назад
I had a new 2012 Z1000SX that I kept for 5 years. It does have great build quality, performance and it was green. Resale value was also good and I only lost £3k on the original price when selling. I found it enjoyable at times, but the lack of comfort from the hard seat, stiff rear suspension and bars that were too flat and without adjustment made it rather a pain the majority of the time. Owing to the powerful engine there weren't that many opportunities to gun it in real world road riding. I now own a 2010 Mk1 CBF1000 I bought second hand. To be honest I wasn't expecting it to be very good, just cheap. It's not as powerful (42bhp less), but it's much more usable, comfortable and fun to ride on roads. Surprisingly it's really grown on me and personally it's my choice (of these two) as a proper road bike rather than needing track days to use the performance.
@meuk1183
@meuk1183 8 лет назад
My pick of that bunch is the Suzuki GSX1250 FA. This bike is a genuine all rounder capable of doing almost everything well. It's low down mid range torque is exactly where you need it in the real world. It's basically a GSF Bandit with full fairing, centre stand and ABS. Best of all it's only £8,000 new which is amazing considering what it can do. It's powerful and fast which isn't surprising when you consider it's muscle bike heritage. With a few mods this bike can do 160 MPH plus in a straight line and the stock OEM bike will push 145 MPH. For high speed comfortable motorway mile munching this beast is superb as it will sit at 100 MPH all day. The engine is over engineered and is bulletproof.
@jamesmackinlay2500
@jamesmackinlay2500 6 лет назад
I have just got a bandit 1250s .16 plate. In white and good looking bike. I got a great deal from Bill smith motorcycle. Salesman Ben. Roll on summer.
@41778055
@41778055 4 года назад
@@jamesmackinlay2500 what do you think of it now mate? I'm just about to buy a white 16 plate
@daveg1250
@daveg1250 4 года назад
@@41778055 I bought a 16 plate 1250 in feb 17 and it is as good as the review above states, I paid 6k for it then and was offered £4300 a couple of weeks ago for a trade in. I was tempted to go down to a smaller more commuter friendly bike, say a 650 versys or vstrom, which tbh would suit my needs better, but each time I go for a demo, I am reminded how great my bike is on the ride home, so I have decided tomkeep hold of it. You can come off a roundabout at 20mph in second gear, open the throttle and in a few seconds look down and see you are up to 60 lol, great fun. I have had it up to 120 and felt safe on it. It is quite heavy when manouvering around in garage etc, but that goes away as soon as you start moving
@alanmarsh5679
@alanmarsh5679 6 лет назад
I would not argue that the Kawasaki is the best of the three bikes tested. I am a Honda man but I love all three of these bikes. But Adam, you were a little harsh on the Honda. "Whats it got beneath it ?" you ask - Well its a fireblade engine actually. "Not sure where the money has gone", whilst it may be a little expensive it is pretty good quality and, compared to the earlier version of the CBF 1000 it has adjustable, & better quality, suspension front & rear, sorted generator/RegRec, ally frame, clearer speedo, slightly more power etc etc. I know lots of people who have traded from the Bandit to the CBF to get a lighter bike with better handling. Albeit slightly less torque. I have not ridden the Kwaker and I would like to - it looks great. But the CBF is better than Adam gives it credit for, and, in my opinion, better than the Bandit.
@Tradmark454
@Tradmark454 10 лет назад
i've got the kawasaki, just bought it a few weeks ago and it's a great bike, best i've ridden. no buzz saw. perhaps years ago, has a better counterbalancer set up and is just quite smooth. i could ride a thousand miles on it, in fact i have! that said, easily the best out there in this class.
@stevesmith6236
@stevesmith6236 3 года назад
I owned a brand new 2016 model of the Ninja 1000 as it's called here in the states, and a brand new 2016 Bandit 1250S. Kaw has much more horsepower and just a very little bit more torque than the Bandit, and the bike weighs over 50 pounds less, but that 1255 cc Suzuki engine produces the torque lower in the rev range making it more useful. The Kaw has only the one headlight on when on low beam, looks like a bulb has gone out, unbalanced looking. The Suzuki's engine is MUCH smoother than the buzzy Kawasaki. The Kaw shifts much smoother. The dual (weird looking) exhaust on the Kaw ( to me) isn't as nice as the Suzuki's single sided unit. In the end I sold my Ninja and kept the Bandit.
@chessgains8075
@chessgains8075 Год назад
I had a 2014 Z1000SX for soon 3 years now. Love it. Its sportier then you might think. I've taken it on track but also on long trips.
@johntucker23
@johntucker23 9 лет назад
Kawasaki have one major advantage over all other rivals....ITS GREEN!!
@alfiospuson7165
@alfiospuson7165 2 года назад
haaaaaaaa haaaaaaaa haaaaaaaa 😅😅😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 haaaaaaaa 😅😂🤣 haaaaaaaa haaaaaaaa haaaaaaaa haaaaaaaa haaaaaaaa haaaaaaaa haaaaaaaa 😅😂🤣🤣
@noblecl83
@noblecl83 10 лет назад
I was 95% sold on the Kawa for next year, this has sealed it. Can't wait now.
@slinkoplush3323
@slinkoplush3323 9 месяцев назад
Owned both the Z1000sx and the Gsx1250FA. I think the review was pretty accurate. I'm getting old & plump and prefer the GSX now.
@dbauernf
@dbauernf 10 лет назад
Twist and go, nothing to worry about, even pull from any gear more or less, no rush up top, will do everything well enough. Bland is a good description, as most scooters are, even the pricey ones, it's hard to get the adrenaline flowing on an automatic bike (scooters) regardless of everything else, and there's really just one scooter out there that's really fast (GP800/SRV850).
@andrewgaron3428
@andrewgaron3428 10 лет назад
This is one of the very few good MCN videos chaps, well done.
@bibbed87
@bibbed87 10 лет назад
We've bought the 2012 Z1000SX. Half a year ago. Its pretty sporty and fast, not just becouse its the first bike for me. You can dive into corners completely but if you are unlucky, you might scratch your exhaust! The only sad thing is, that it is limited to 240-250km/h although it could reach 300 with its 140hp. Another negative thing is or might be its weight but thats usual for tourers. Its a great Funbike, everyday Bike and an OK tourer. Good for sporty people who like to travel
@arrowflyte2
@arrowflyte2 10 лет назад
Thanks MCN. Ordered my Z1000 last week.......
@MyscBigdrop
@MyscBigdrop 3 года назад
I've owned the Kawasaki Z100SX 2014 for a year now. Absolutley love it! Did 255km/h on it this weekend, ops.
@xclent1975
@xclent1975 5 месяцев назад
2015 z1000 sx Sargent heated seat oxford heated grips with panniers... 100% smiles zero problems outstanding motorcycle
@Davidlouis3
@Davidlouis3 3 года назад
I’ve got a black one, cracking bike smooth, very quick and comfortable
@paulallen2169
@paulallen2169 4 года назад
What about the Yamaha fjr 1300? Now that’s a real sports tourer!!!
@davidfacciponti8304
@davidfacciponti8304 2 года назад
100 % ..
@sonofagalwayman6553
@sonofagalwayman6553 Год назад
get the bandit , be aware of the fuel filter will need replacing when it starts missing at about 50k, the seat...get a sergeants or original a gel insert
@johntucker23
@johntucker23 9 лет назад
I almost died at the end when that guy jumped in the puddle with his camera in his hand....i'm a photographer...respect the cam as well as the bike :)
@Mikolaj_u
@Mikolaj_u 10 лет назад
Very nice review. Keep it up! Chad looks like young Stallone lol
@techo61
@techo61 10 лет назад
3:35 "In every kind of aspect it's better than the other two" sure, if you ignore an important feature for a so called '...tourer', where's the centre stand? 4:22 "it does everything the other two can do" unless you need to pull the rear wheel off in the middle of nowhere to change a tyre.
@BFD15i
@BFD15i 10 лет назад
You're always riding with a spare tire on your back? Or how do you change a tire on your own "in the middle of nowhere"?
@techo61
@techo61 10 лет назад
I guess you've never had a flat on a long trip. It's very simple, you place the bike on it's centre stand (if you're lucky enough to have one), remove the wheel, thumb a ride from a good samaritan to the nearest town, have tyre changed/repaired, reverse the steps. The alternative is to trailer the bike or wait for a van/truck, not good options. The obvious additional benefit for chain drives such as this bike is cleaning, lubricating and adjusting the chain. It also helps when loading luggage if you're in touring mode. Don't get me wrong, I'm a Kawasaki nut and I'd probably buy one of these but, if KHI want to offer a Sports 'Tourer', I just don't see why it doesn't have a centre stand.
@rjwz28
@rjwz28 9 лет назад
techo61 I have roadside for that... They can have me picked up with my bike and taken to the nearest shop
@DavidSmith-jj5pr
@DavidSmith-jj5pr 9 лет назад
rjwz28 my girlfriend does the same thing!
@rjwz28
@rjwz28 9 лет назад
David Smith What? Keeps roadside coverage on her motorcycle?
@CORSAIR001
@CORSAIR001 10 лет назад
Je possède une Honda CBF 1000 et pour avoir essayé une Kawa SX franchement la kawa est largement supérieure ! Tout à fait d'accord avec l'essayeur.
@prtrmichalik3831
@prtrmichalik3831 6 лет назад
Ymahar1
@marky0071
@marky0071 9 лет назад
Like the Channel but every time I look at a UK Video of either a car or bike test it's raining! I pity you guys, really I do! From one biker to all others from Australia.
@ZiggySheppardUK
@ZiggySheppardUK 9 лет назад
marky0071 We don't need your pity. Riding in the rain makes me feel alive.
@jaznetionnejaz8305
@jaznetionnejaz8305 3 года назад
What did you say?. Hondo is so easy to drive almost as big a scooter ????. seema You never ride a big scooter ... because ..scooter is very difficult to ride well and agile and smootly and fast in corner as Honda can go much better and faster as a big scooter. I think you just talk somthing...to make minutes in this videos...
@MotorcycleExtremist
@MotorcycleExtremist 10 лет назад
The buzz from the engine on the Kawasaki Ninja Z1000SX that travels through every part of the bike and "into" the rider is unbearable for many, myself included. That nasty buzz just ruins the whole experience. It's almost unbelievable that Adam didn't even mention it, as it's so pervasive and impossible not to notice immediately, let alone after riding the bike around for a while.
@ZoneTelevision
@ZoneTelevision 10 лет назад
I think Ill get a cruiser instead of one of these.
@BFD15i
@BFD15i 10 лет назад
I've just ridden a SX today and I did not feel any kind of buzz. It's just an amazing bike. Power everywhere, good handling, nice comfort. Maybe I didn't feel a buzz because I am already blunted from my parallel-twin.
@gsfdriller
@gsfdriller 9 лет назад
I've had my 2014 Z1000SX for 10 months now and have never detected a buzz riding on our Andalucian roads and I don't hang around. This thing is The Best all round road bike I have ever owned.
@MotorcycleExtremist
@MotorcycleExtremist 9 лет назад
Mike Ritchie It is a very good bike, but the engine buzz getting through is just too much for some people, and I'm one of them. I'm glad it's working out so well for you.
@gsfdriller
@gsfdriller 9 лет назад
My wife has shared with me many times that "YOU DONT HAVE ANY FEELINGS", could this be the reason I haven't noticed the buzz?
@jollibeetilao3604
@jollibeetilao3604 6 лет назад
You always mention like a scooter???do this bike really like a scooter?by the looks alone,you can easily differentiate it will..This is a sports touring bike,the similarity of this bike to a scooter?"the both have to wheels"
@mriegger
@mriegger 10 лет назад
I've ridden 14 different motorcycles, but never tried a scooter. What exactly does Adam mean by the CBF being like a 1000cc scooter?
@JaimeDelaRubia
@JaimeDelaRubia 7 лет назад
Means you don't need to change gears so often,it pulls in every gear.(owner of a CBF1000)
@MrDickBills
@MrDickBills 6 лет назад
I bought one of these at 56 as a born again biker. It is just like a scooter. Any old gear at any speed and it goes. It can also be thrashed off the line with nothing happening apart from loads of acceleration, no wheelies or wheel spin. My last bike was an RD350. The first few gears would have the front wheel in the air, and it was impossible to use full power off of the line. All this excitement would go on as everybody else overtook me. My wife has a scooter (SH125), it is brilliant but slow. My CBF is just as easy to ride as the 125 but compared to the traffic you meet every day, is capable of letting all sorts of hell loose in a mad dash to obviously 69mph on a dual carriageway.
@ohcrikey9560
@ohcrikey9560 4 года назад
@@MrDickBills i love my cbf. I love its smoothness. It just glides along. All the power you need. It is a litre bike after all. It is what it is. Love it or loath it. I don't even want to put a can on it. It's quietness kind of suits it. I like sexy bikes but i always like to jump back on my cbf! Its a joy.
@lukaspeeters6042
@lukaspeeters6042 8 лет назад
Hi thgre, It's really ama~ing undesirable statuesque 1!
@Marciaus007
@Marciaus007 10 лет назад
Are you not able to edit the sound? Music is much louder than the speech. How you manage to make videos is beyond me...
@sexcorpio6976
@sexcorpio6976 5 лет назад
Thank heaven the music track can be heared, I didn't know the song and I happened to love it
@petericyou856
@petericyou856 5 лет назад
I got a gsx 1250 fa ,,, seating is crap after a 100ks radiator to small for a sub tropical climate lazy suspension,,,, cheap finish,,, But it’s a beast.. push it around a corner and you get an adrenaline rush,, like wow slow down,,,,, I have gotten 550 kms on a run still had a litre left,, push it and you will get maybe half.... it’s a gsx 1100 base plant supt up to 1250... change the oil and filter at each 5 or 6000ks intervals keep the carbon out clean oil last for 100,000 easily... oh change the freaking seat... Sargent seat or Corbin.
@niko7024
@niko7024 9 лет назад
La migliore moto della sua categoria ,semplicemente fantastica.
@wolfurus1988
@wolfurus1988 10 лет назад
one bike missed : triumph sprint gt 1050 !!
@RobertBrumley60
@RobertBrumley60 9 лет назад
Funny they don't sell these models in America. Must be European market only.
@dougpage2730
@dougpage2730 7 лет назад
In the US Kawasaki's model is called the Ninja 1000 in believe. I have one and it looks just like the Kawi here.
@davebielke6319
@davebielke6319 Год назад
Why on a rainy wet day...
@jollibeetilao3604
@jollibeetilao3604 6 лет назад
I go the for the green,i already had honda cbr 600rr,.
@madheadmadDAZ
@madheadmadDAZ 10 лет назад
Yes Kawasaki are awesome, but what is with the new style of end can on the exhaust?? I don't know if i like it, looks like something strange and about the electronics, I agree they are great, while they are working but one little sensor goes down the computer/ ECU is telling you that the bike is fucked, but its not so electronics are great while they are working correctly, sometimes simply is better
@stuartelwell1975
@stuartelwell1975 10 лет назад
Still think the FZ1 is a better bike with a more quality feel......
@KPKonliner
@KPKonliner 10 лет назад
Whats the diff between CBR and CBF ?
@akupehsluarketatAR
@akupehsluarketatAR 10 лет назад
cbr is supersports cbf are tourers more upright sitting. different engine tunings too
@KPKonliner
@KPKonliner 10 лет назад
oh ok
@Davidlouis3
@Davidlouis3 3 года назад
The fairing
@JohnDoe-oj3wy
@JohnDoe-oj3wy 11 месяцев назад
apples and oranges.
@mick1-sh3or
@mick1-sh3or Год назад
Honda any day
@pdn561
@pdn561 9 лет назад
A simplistic use of the word simplistic! Calling the bike "simplistic" in this context is a huge insult! Adam needs to use a dictionary more oftener so he doesn't make himself sound stupificatious.
@geminiman7069
@geminiman7069 5 лет назад
Save your money and buy a bandit FFS. Just buy a bandit, get it painted. Wheels too. Nice silencer. He's just said it in not so many words hasn't he. This bike came out best all round tourer by MCN ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zQCVb7qYp00.html. You can pick them up soooo reasonably, virtually mint on a newish reg too. Get searching......
@sebastiandiakakisnilo6999
@sebastiandiakakisnilo6999 2 года назад
Honda doesn't need fans. Honda is Honda.
@timlang3841
@timlang3841 8 лет назад
Fantastic Viieo. Hey. habitual expansion $ 11
@duckrubber_rubberduck
@duckrubber_rubberduck 4 года назад
Honda is some better. Always.
@YarekBalear
@YarekBalear 9 лет назад
@Robert Brumley - Yes they do - its the 2015 Ninja 1000 ABS. In the EU they drop the Ninja name.
@djwinger2003
@djwinger2003 9 лет назад
Well we don't drop it completely, we just reserve it for the supersport models
@johntucker23
@johntucker23 9 лет назад
djwinger2003 Yeah this isn't what i'd call a ninja...this is like the cave troll that the goblins ( ninja bikes ) bring to the fight :)
@JohnnyRebKy
@JohnnyRebKy 4 года назад
Kawasaki wins by color alone 😂👍🏼😎. Team Green!!
@Sloppify
@Sloppify 10 лет назад
He tells you how much better the Ninja is than the Suzuki and the Honda, but fails to mention that it can't be fitted with a center stand.
@techo61
@techo61 9 лет назад
Hey, that's my point exactly, not a great reviewer is he?
@leeengelsman1855
@leeengelsman1855 Год назад
That is very by significant for a touring bike.
@leeengelsman1855
@leeengelsman1855 Год назад
@@techo61 Yes he is just preaching to the converted.
@13frontrow
@13frontrow 10 лет назад
it,s a knew kawasaki for me..
@davidhardstaff8110
@davidhardstaff8110 5 лет назад
Worse pillion position on Kwan, Bandit for me
@WakeTheIsraelites
@WakeTheIsraelites 5 лет назад
Ninja 1K A Beautiful Machine
@Jimo368
@Jimo368 10 лет назад
I would never buy a bike with "one eye" headlight.
@leeengelsman1855
@leeengelsman1855 Год назад
Why not they generally work better.
@jacstitant3540
@jacstitant3540 10 лет назад
la 1000cbf j l ait essayer c est un veau
@rothmenmoto7962
@rothmenmoto7962 3 года назад
kawasaki 1000 cc have issue spring valve broken....mostly zx10......
@dmxisraw
@dmxisraw 4 года назад
@2:32 the GAYEST moment in Motorcycle Review History 😛🙈😂😂
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