Kaye and Jane do not agree about who is to blame for child obesity - Loose Women - 8th March 2019 

Most 4 year olds eat most meals at nursery so educate yourself first!

A parent cannot teach a child if they them selves were brought up on crap. They don't know any different.. Sweets chocolate crisps and burgers .. chips and god knows what. Plus they don't get out and exercise enough. Most parents these days cannot even make a stew, let alone what would go into it. They're all to happy to give them what they want and also ready meals out of the freezer. Some parents don't have the time nor the energy after getting home from work even if they have kids or not, to cook correctly. That's because they're having to work more hours to keep up with the bills and repayments. So it's a ready meal or the chippy.. Wages are so low these days and prices of things gone through the roof, which just compounds the situation. We in England work more hours than most of our European neighbours.. And whatever google says its got this one wrong, the last two jobs i had have been over 70 hours a week and not 41 as per average as google suggests. My friends in other lines of work are the same.. And as a bus driver one week i did almost 60 hours, this is WAY TO MUCH. It's not safe. Pubs used to have last orders at 10;20 at night, now they're open later. Shops were closed on a Saturday after 12 mid day and not open on a Sunday. Now it's a given that you if you're in this line of work that you must comply and do the hours and days. This is not right, IT IS NOT A GIVEN , AND FIRMS SHOULD NOT BE IMPOSSING IT UPON THE STAFF. I walked out of my last two jobs because of the hours getting longer and longer.. i will not do it.. and until people stand up and say no enough is enough then they will keep you chained to whatever it is that you do. Tell them no bugger off. You as a person need a home life balance and work to live, Not live to WORK..

Yeah but Kaye is saying not everyone has the money to be able to afford to buy the right food and can only afford the crap food and be stuck in a financial situation that doesn’t allow them to yet improve their situation that’s why supermarkets now have been banned for doing 2 for 1 and buy one get one free on certain snacks and unhealthy food and do the offers on fruits and vegetables to try to help people who are stuck in the situation where they could only afford to buy the unhealthy cheap food but that’s only come in to place recently and this was a while ago when this was on

Agreed x

A parent cannot teach a child if they them selves were brought up on crap. They don't know any different.. Sweets chocolate crisps and burgers .. chips and god knows what. Plus they don't get out and exercise enough..

Terrible here in Australia. Catching up to the States. Not good.

It’s not that easy for parents on low incomes etc..

Not having this low income garbage excuse, porridge, eggs, brown bread, low sugar cereal, milk, raw loose veg veg etc all cheaper than junk food. You are all delusional. Local takeaways in my town 8 in 50m, all flat out at tea time, not cheap, ( fish and chips £11), tell me you cannot feed 3 kids on that at 1 sitting, my mother could. "Not my fault" Britian

21st century is much much worse 😢

It's actually not a public health issue its parents own fault and not every other taxpayer. If you have kids look after them it's not someone else's problem.

Absolutely agree they got themselves into this mess and they can get themselves out of this mess. We’re not holding their hand we are not helping them they did it themselves

@@jetnight88 well I hope to god then you don’t get stuck in a financial situation where it’s either pay your mortgage and have cheap food or I know I will buy organic food and then live on that cold park bench next week not everyone does it on purpose they could be made redundant or get sick and be put in a financial situation so You shouldn’t be judging and what Kaye is saying not everyone has the money to be able to afford to buy the right food and can only afford the crap food and be stuck in a financial situation that doesn’t allow them to yet improve their situation that’s why supermarkets now have been banned for doing 2 for 1 and buy one get one free on certain snacks and unhealthy food and do the offers on fruits and vegetables to try to help people who are stuck in the situation where they could only afford to buy the unhealthy cheap food but that’s only come in to place recently and this was a while ago when this was on and it only came to light a few years ago that actually most of children who where actually over weight was caused not by the parent but actually the school because of the school dinners they was serving that’s why the government had to have an action plan to change the school meals to healthier foods

A parent cannot teach a child if they them selves were brought up on crap. They don't know any different.. Sweets chocolate crisps and burgers .. chips and god knows what. Plus they don't get out and exercise enough. Most parents these days cannot even make a stew, let alone what would go into it. They're all to happy to give them what they want and also ready meals out of the freezer. Some parents don't have the time nor the energy after getting home from work even if they have kids or not, to cook correctly. That's because they're having to work more hours to keep up with the bills and repayments. So it's a ready meal or the chippy.. Wages are so low these days and prices of things gone through the roof, which just compounds the situation. We in England work more hours than most of our European neighbours.. And whatever google says its got this one wrong, the last two jobs i had have been over 70 hours a week and not 41 as per average as google suggests. My friends in other lines of work are the same.. And as a bus driver one week i did almost 60 hours, this is WAY TO MUCH. It's not safe. Pubs used to have last orders at 10;20 at night, now they're open later. Shops were closed on a Saturday after 12 mid day and not open on a Sunday. Now it's a given that you if you're in this line of work that you must comply and do the hours and days. This is not right, IT IS NOT A GIVEN , AND FIRMS SHOULD NOT BE IMPOSSING IT UPON THE STAFF. I walked out of my last two jobs because of the hours getting longer and longer.. i will not do it.. and until people stand up and say no enough is enough then they will keep you chained to whatever it is that you do. Tell them no bugger off. You as a person need a home life balance and work to live, Not live to WORK..

Shes not hatchet faced and I think she is well aware of personal responsibility having taken it herself in her own life and been a successful journalist and mother. She is not denying personal responsbility but also acknowledging that the food environments which surround many especially those in the poorest communitites or those who have busy lives in low pay then it can be hard to find time and moeny to always choose the healthiest options.Healthy food could be more widely available and made less expensive and yes some people might be plain lazy or not bothered or uneducated as far as what healthy food is or how to cook healthy on a budget.

@@upendasana7857 "acknowledging that the food environments which surround many especially those in the poorest communitites or those who have busy lives in low pay then it can be hard to find time and moeny to always choose the healthiest options" No it doesn't. Healthier food is CHEAPER.You're confusing ease and convenience with price, a dumb move. That's not how economics work. There is no "food environment" except for the food you PERSONALLY DECIDE to purchase and consume. "Healthy food could be more widely available " It already is. "yes some people might be plain lazy or not bothered or uneducated as far as what healthy food is or how to cook healthy on a budget." Which is their own fault. And you're trying to make pathetic excuses. Improve your diet yourself.

Kay is also a terrible cook as demonstrated on the channel she and Nadia once had.Imdon’t believe for a second she has always cooked from scratch for her kids.

Not really. Don't feed your kids crap, teach them to view food as fuel and not something you eat for comfort or pleasure. If someone has a medical issue it's different. But for most people (including myself), if you are fat you are taking in more than you are burning off. You are not only causing your children to have a harder life by being fat, you are also teaching them that they don't need to take personal responsibility for anything and it's the world that needs to change and not them.

Why does she not !!

@@somethingsomethingdeathsta748 No not really,I think most people know that being fat is not desirable or that it will make life harder for kids if they are unfit or overweight.The fact is weight and health is not as simple and it is related to income inequality and other issues such as where you live and how much moeny you earn and also issues like mental health so to blame it all on peoples personal responsibility and not take account of food companies and other retailers who make alot of money out of selling unhealthy food is also unfair. Yes ultimately it is our responsibility if we want to be healthy as we can be and make better food choices especially for our children who have no choice other than what we feed them income,time and having easy access to good quality affordable healthy food is also an issue. Also food is simply not just fuel but it to do with pleasure and comfort and all those things too and to ignore that is a mistake.The thing is to teach how to prepare healthy food espcially on a budget and quickly and also how to have comfort and treats without it being harmful or ignoring our mental health or other issues which make people comfort eat.Why do people comfort eat in the first place ?

And how!

@Dollie Waitrose, surely Dollie!

Absolutely,everyone loves to get on their high horse about this,as you say it can be more complicated and food and diet is more complicated and as Kaye said food environments are full of poor unhealthy fattening foods. Some people maybe plain lazy and not bothered for sure but most are probably trying to do their best with what they have.Its complicated as you say

👏👏👏 exactly.

not saying you may not have some valid points, but mental illnesses are different for everyone and affected by many variables.

@@imalwaysright but you can't use mental health issues all the time cos then you end up with physical health issues on top of them too. And when ppl say it's a vicious circle, it's only that way if you choose to eat/drink your feelings & emotions during a bad time. Some ppl are just stubborn & refuse to try other methods by simply claiming that they don't work so that they can just stuff their face. And when they have children as well, it doesn't set a good example. Yes life's tough but there are ways & means around these things that don't burden the NHS more

True that siblings don’t eat the same way but it’s the responsibility of the parents to make sure their kids eat healthy food cooked in fun different ways! Just because there’s a fussy eater doesn’t mean as a parent you let them eat junk food.

100% jane's so rude

Yes she is privileged so be easy upset

and if a single parent household

Ok so let them carry on. And its not guilt tripping, its educating, but you cannot tell these 17yr old single parents anything, but hey they will have been put at front of queue for council house, benefit for child, maybe money off father by courts or voluntary, two sets of grandparents competing to see who can spoil the child the most. Heard it all before. You think we lived in Africa or down town Iraq the way you all make excuses.

Last time I checked, 'Lady', stores weren't just giving away food, rubbish or not. No money, no junk foods, really simple. And food banks should concentrate on essentials, not crap that makes people unhealthy(-ier).

@@Paul-sm8ms yeah thats right its all these 17 yr old single parents(mothers presumbaly) ..what a load of rubbish,what about all the overweight middle ages men who drink too much,eat too much and smoke and sit down the pub because their wives have left them or children don't speak to them...what about them as it is diabetes and heart disease in this population which probably is one of the biggest expenses to the health service

@@loveisall5520 food banks have no choice in what they give people or limited choices,they gve people tinned foods and store cupboard food and try to make it as healthy as possible and are not able to provide fresh food.Maybe you should work down a foodbank to see what they do and the people that come and what their issues are and then you might have more empathy. Also they do concentrate on essentials..what do you think they are giving people,crisps and muffins and biscuits and chocolate

@Dollie think you might find it's fact

have you raised children?

@@imalwaysright Yes I have and I’ve taught them to get out of things that they created themselves I’m not holding their hand I’m not bailing them out they got themselves into this mess get yourself out of it It’s called preparing them for the real world

@@imalwaysright you got yourself into this mess now get yourself out

@@jetnight88 You sound like a really great loving parent.Its not about bailing people out but offering the help and support,as k any doctor or healthcare worker and they will say your approach does not work for people who actually want help with their weight or health.Your approach simply does not work.Wonder if your kids speak to you these days ...well

It’s from a few years ago

Okay, 'ruth', I won't. Revel in your ignorant denial!

Well in some instances it is

Yeah,we should ahve a programme called sensible men who always know whats right and will tell us !! ..lol

It’s the parent’s fault. No doubt. Super poor parenting and should be classed as neglect.