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Keihin PWM Problems, Tips, and Tricks 

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Over the years, Swedetech technicians have seen a lot of bad assembly work or just simple mistakes. This video address a few of the common problems we see with the Keihin PWM and PWK carburetors on the shifter karts.
Problems include full throttle being jammed, rubber boots being stuck, stripped out screws, cable adjusters, and more.
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@sickkid129
@sickkid129 2 года назад
Exactly what I needed! You fixed a problem I didn’t know I had with the full throttle issue haha. Came here for idle issues left with full throttle! Nice
@arfwidson
@arfwidson 11 месяцев назад
Mee too! Thanks
@stevesolo16
@stevesolo16 5 лет назад
I helped the development with the PWM. In karting, in the early 1990's the "top" carb was the Del orto 39 JM racing was selling for a small fortune. But, they didn't show you their set up as it was a very complicated carb. Keihn was pushing their PWK for Karting. The fuel on the PWK dropped out of atomization too quickly when you got off the throttle and it took too long to get back to atomization when you got on. The PWM was close to being a flat slide, but retained the radius on the front of the slide allowing the fuel to "cone" into the crankcase and keep the fuel in an atomized state more adequately. The radius on the back side of the slide allowed the main circuit to be closer to the piston then the PWK. That was the basis of the first PWM carburetor. Our GP 125cc roadracing team was a close to the Keihin USA so they showed up one day to check out the shop. They discovered I had been EDMing their 36mm carbs to an oval"ish" shape and patching up the holes where the EDM burnt through! We had set the 125cc A Gas and B Gas land speed records with one of those carbs! And after showing their tech why it worked on my Flow Bench...well, that's how our short collaboration began. In the late nineties I went back to school and finished my physics degree. I miss the 125cc scene. It was fun testing all of the modifications. I have heard there are no more modifying 125 CR engines. That is sad to hear. The Honda was a bulletproof platform. There is a lot of horsepower begging to come out of that engine.
@designspm
@designspm 4 года назад
Hello sir, maybe you can help me with a simple doubt. I got a Vortex 125 engine which was used in competition some years ago, along with a Mikuni slide carb type. I want to swap this carb for a CV carb type to have a smoother throttle response. Could you mention some of the models used in 125 competition karts? Best regards
@stevesolo16
@stevesolo16 4 года назад
@@designspm The vortex engine uses a relitivly small 30mm carb due to the engines effeciency. Give any dealer a call and they should be able to get you the correct carb and set it up properly. When I was racing we ran Honda 125's with PWM 38's. But the new Vortex is a different animal.
@muhammadhamzahrobbani5654
@muhammadhamzahrobbani5654 Год назад
@@stevesolo16 hello sir, which of these three carburetor: PWK, PWM, PJ has the potential to have the highest top end power? assuming the size of the venturi is the same... Things related to response, idle, and others are ignored
@stevesolo16
@stevesolo16 Год назад
I EDMed a 36 and 38 Keihn I I used Morroso putty to fill in the places where the holes poked through. I then grounded the excess putty. They both worked, but not liked we hoped. The PWM worked right out of the box. The trick to make the PWKM sing is to use a needle from the old Honda RS 125 The 94 and 95, to the best of my relocation was the needle I used. I miss the 125 scene too. It was what racing is all about!
@phillipkleinhans8321
@phillipkleinhans8321 6 лет назад
Hi Jason, Thanks for the tips. Great stuff! I have a 1983 Honda Express Business Moped. Keihin Carb gave me endless trouble.Yoyr tips helped me adjust my old carb just great:) Phillip Bela Bela South Africa
@efilnikufesina7532
@efilnikufesina7532 4 года назад
A lot of great info for the inexperienced mechanic. I'm learning as I go. I just cleaned the carburetor yesterday, and the first tip, very helpful. Perfect straight forward video.
@Swedetechracing
@Swedetechracing 4 года назад
Glad you found it helpful
@Croseb2
@Croseb2 5 лет назад
Thank you!!!!! I could not figure out why my new PWK carb was sticking. I didn’t line up the notch on the spring. Saved me a trip to the shop.
@stevesolo16
@stevesolo16 5 лет назад
Carl, Swedetech has a really good rep. If they are racing and winning, take heed, stop and listen. The world is full of followers. If you are in need of answers go to the people who are running in the front of the pack. They found resolve by figuring out problems first hand. Cheers!
@jamesmorello9847
@jamesmorello9847 5 месяцев назад
Great video bro been working on a 36mm pwk just got it back in a 22 beta rr (pain in arse to get out) then watched your video, thought no way going to have to take it off again which would’ve been a major pain in arse but listened for that metal on metal at the top and thank god it made the right sound😅, never even noticed that notch too worried about getting the float level right as it was pissing out fuel before, plus the oil injected thingy majig put back right,😅 but yeah keep making content, straight to point no messing keep it up my American brother 🇬🇧🇺🇸 Jamie
@doriandensmore5833
@doriandensmore5833 5 месяцев назад
Noticed this today. Great video
@DiegoPerez-ug2yv
@DiegoPerez-ug2yv 5 лет назад
Great video! Helped me out a lot. Getting wide open throttle now.
@Swedetechracing
@Swedetechracing 5 лет назад
Glad you enjoyed it.
@pacman6169
@pacman6169 4 года назад
Awesome Video! That helped me alot , especially the Choke Rubber Grommet Tip because i assume that i have this exact Problem and wondered why it was weird to Setup ! And i also had a Weird Problem that the Choke Moves itself DOWN out of the UP Position when the Engine gets Warm - and then Shutting off... I then adjusted the Fuel / Air and Idle Screw a bit and it seemed to Work but i now have Bog if i Full Throttle Quickly , and if i dont Quick Full Throttle it run's Great (it's a Derbi Senda Polini Sport 80cc and 24mm PWK / 6 Leaf Polini Carbon Membrane)
@marcialquinones5683
@marcialquinones5683 3 года назад
thank you so much I have same carburator im find the problem now is the choke
@javasoldier5926
@javasoldier5926 4 года назад
thanks for valuable info. good job!
@raizlc
@raizlc 5 лет назад
Thank you so much for this video. I spent hours trying to troubleshoot my YZ250 carb because it wouldn't idle.In the end I had to turn to youtube. It turned out to be the little rubber boot had slid up. After sliding it back down, the bike would idle correctly and the idle adjustment screw worked as it should.
@Swedetechracing
@Swedetechracing 5 лет назад
Glad the video helped
@strictlysidewaysusa
@strictlysidewaysusa 4 года назад
Quick question , any washers or o rings for the needle jet that’s in between the slide ? Or just put in the hole and top piece screwed on ? For a 04 RM250 pwk. Just replaced the needle on the slide and don’t know if it needs o rings or washers
@juanpab4791
@juanpab4791 2 года назад
sorry wich rubber r u talking about? i have the same problem as u
@outbackenduro7418
@outbackenduro7418 5 лет назад
Thanks for the advanced tips :)
@MagisMoto
@MagisMoto 3 года назад
Thanks for sharing very helpful
@alanmcn17
@alanmcn17 Год назад
Excellent video thank you
@CW-up7xv
@CW-up7xv 5 лет назад
Great content!!
@THYROTRON
@THYROTRON 2 года назад
Excellent video. I have an issue with fuel leaking from the overflow. Is there an o ring around the needle valve seat on these carbs? The brass seat doesn't look like it comes off. Regards Matt
@pruebasoftware7943
@pruebasoftware7943 4 года назад
Very Nice videos, Do you have any chart or table to select the best (or lest worst) the jetting of the carb in swedetech engine?? Another question. Why when i tune (jetting) the carb, then, i fire up the kart in the "sicssor bench" everything sounds perfect and work well, then, i get in the kart and kart has so much trouble to fire up. thank you!!!
@ariusbentley6086
@ariusbentley6086 4 года назад
Ok here's my problem were do you adjust the idle on the carburetor? Like you think it should be in the same spot like every other carburetor
@MisieQ
@MisieQ 6 лет назад
How to set a carburettor to the cross? I have Yz 250. The candle is black. I do not understand what is happening with clicks
@Youboi2002
@Youboi2002 4 года назад
Can you make a vid of how to instal this carb
@SDsailor7
@SDsailor7 3 года назад
I have a keihin PA MOA on a 1980 Indian moped and when i apply the rear brake it dies if i dont apply the brake it idles ok. What could be the problem? Anyone know? Thank you
@edig4200
@edig4200 3 года назад
Hi friend.can you give me advise?can i use keihini 42mm single for yamaha virago vx535?
@johnhancock1855
@johnhancock1855 2 года назад
Good information
@773steve
@773steve 6 лет назад
great video thanks
@Swedetechracing
@Swedetechracing 5 лет назад
You are welcome
@attilacserto7841
@attilacserto7841 3 года назад
Sorry for my silly question, but I am confused a little. I have an old timer boxer engined motorcycle with two Keihin PWK 28 carbs on it. Obviously there is an idle screw and an air/fuel mixture screw on it. The question is: With the air/fuel mixture screw turning it in and out...so turning it in is getting richer and turning it out is getting leaner? Is this correct? Thanks for the answer, and forgive my english Greatings from Hungary Attila
@petersouthernboy6327
@petersouthernboy6327 5 лет назад
Very good content and helpful.
@Swedetechracing
@Swedetechracing 5 лет назад
Thank you. Glad it was helpful
@petersouthernboy6327
@petersouthernboy6327 5 лет назад
@@Swedetechracing - maybe develop some videos on blueprinting or development work on the SKUSA 20.3.2.1 CR125R engines and the IAME X30 TaG engines. For example, are you allowed to perform grinding and polishing on the cylinder to bring those dimensions to those listed on page 3 of the TaGX30 rulebook ?
@Swedetechracing
@Swedetechracing 5 лет назад
For any type of racing, always read and know the rulebook before doing anything. If there is a question on a rule or interpretation, always contact the head tech director in writing to ask for clarifications. Creating engine building content that educates someone on engine building is a tough proposition for Swedetech. Our business model is to provide those services at a high level and quality. The videos we provide start with the most frequently asked questions in which we expect the customer to be able to perform.
@jeffflanagan2814
@jeffflanagan2814 3 года назад
@SwedetechRacingEngines Great information! I have a PWM 38 that keeps leaking from the overflow, any thoughts? I haven't even pulled the bowl off yet to look.
@polisman7681
@polisman7681 Год назад
I know its been a year but have you solved the problem?
@TrevorJones418
@TrevorJones418 6 лет назад
I have an 06 cr125 and it has a temperamental idle. I have the adjuster turned waaaay out, sometimes it idles great other times it hangs and can make for some sketchy moments
@Swedetechracing
@Swedetechracing 6 лет назад
Clean your carb, check your jets, check your slide spring, and make sure the slide is functioning properly. Also replace your throttle cable and housing if needed. Idle should not change in the middle of a ride on it's own. If you are not comfortable with the inspection of your carburetor, we offer the service.
@TrevorJones418
@TrevorJones418 6 лет назад
Swedetech Racing Engines the bike is in pieces currently for a build im doing. Thanks for the advice. The bike runs super crisp just seems like the idle adjuster isnt affecting anything. Ill check the slide and the throttle cable tension.
@yusufyildirim4589
@yusufyildirim4589 3 года назад
Thank you..
@DUDE72341
@DUDE72341 5 лет назад
cart racing so much different than enduro bikes..my bikes throttle cable has to have a extreme radius into carb..no room!..and WOT not really used as often in trail riding at low speeds..but great info on carbs! obviously youve spent alot of time tinkering with theses bad boys!
@Swedetechracing
@Swedetechracing 5 лет назад
For the tight clearance, Motion Pro makes a nice 90 degree and 45 degree cable. When using this style cable, you always need to double check correct slide operation when removing and installing the slide and slide top. It is very easy to accidentally change slide travel when threading directly into the cap. Thank you for the feedback, we have been working extensively with these carbs since the 1990's.
@frederiknoget5746
@frederiknoget5746 4 года назад
I have a 28mm Kelhin PWM carb, and it is mounted close to vertical? Is that a problem, because my engine placement is so narrow so that is the only way it'll fit.
@Swedetechracing
@Swedetechracing 4 года назад
The carb is designed to be placed vertical, with the floats at the bottom. The more angle you have away from vertical towards horizontal, you will run into carburation issues. Based on your description, it sounds ok. The carb also wants to be as straight as possible when it comes to the tilt when looking at it from behind.
@typhonn88
@typhonn88 Год назад
Ty
@Hdhegydhehh6238
@Hdhegydhehh6238 5 лет назад
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@milantocinovski8614
@milantocinovski8614 2 года назад
From when they put caffeine in whisky? :)
@krisjanismajevskis2857
@krisjanismajevskis2857 2 года назад
Hello i have exactly same carburetor. and i don't understand how you adjust idle on these.
@Swedetechracing
@Swedetechracing 2 года назад
Twist the choke knob counter clockwise about 25 to 30 clicks from fully closed.
@NouriGains
@NouriGains 3 года назад
What about if you can't find the idle, but the engine starts every time when you crack the throttle?? I have my idle screw all the way in, and still can't get it to idle.... 2 screws on a/f tried different pilot jets, but I think I'm still rich??
@Sleeper_Banshee
@Sleeper_Banshee 3 года назад
I’m having the same issue on mine out of no where. Pretty sure it’s the block o ring. I’ll do a video on my channel soon, sub for info
@NouriGains
@NouriGains 3 года назад
@@Sleeper_Banshee yeah im good i figured it out. soemthing was stuck in the valve body
@misaelarias7338
@misaelarias7338 10 месяцев назад
Same issue , have you tried the choke knob
@farhansamsuddin4946
@farhansamsuddin4946 7 лет назад
thanks
@Swedetechracing
@Swedetechracing 7 лет назад
You are welcome. Thank you for checking out our channel
@fede8850
@fede8850 4 года назад
Does this PWM the possibility to connect the oil mixing tube?
@Swedetechracing
@Swedetechracing 4 года назад
The one if the video does not have a pre-machined boss for the the oil injectors. You may be able to find one that is off an OE application with the proper set up for oil injection appliations
@fede8850
@fede8850 4 года назад
Swedetech Racing Engines aha ok! Got it, thank you 🙏🏻
@italohenrique4589
@italohenrique4589 5 лет назад
Hi friend, I have a yz 250 99, and it has the carburetor pwm38, could you take me some doubts of regulation? it is consuming a lot of fuel, not slow idle, which gicles do you recommend I use?
@Swedetechracing
@Swedetechracing 5 лет назад
Hello and thank you for watching our channel. We do not offer fine tuning or generalized tips for packages we are not familiar with or have not serviced. We do not want to lead you down the wrong path with bad info. These videos are designed to give an over view of a product or service.
@michaelmorgan2360
@michaelmorgan2360 5 лет назад
I have the same bike and the same shitty carb it's running really rich and won't idle in high rpms and it bogs alot if u had these problems please tell me what you did to fix it
@Swedetechracing
@Swedetechracing 5 лет назад
You send us the carburetor for a proper cleaning and rebuild service. If you are having problems, it is better to have a good starting point. Otherwise you can start by changing jets and needle clip position to see if you can resolve the problems on your own.
@michaelmorgan2360
@michaelmorgan2360 5 лет назад
@@Swedetechracing I fixed it and and idles right and has power but now the carb pours gas and the bike floods itself
@maryannpagobo2553
@maryannpagobo2553 5 лет назад
hi ive been looking in the internet where i can buy this authentic keihin but most of the time i see fake one, so i wounder if i can some tips from here.
@Swedetechracing
@Swedetechracing 5 лет назад
We sell only Keihin mfg carburetors. If you visit www.shopswedetech.com/home.php?cat=44 you will see our selection. If you are looking for a OE Bike carburetors, those will have to be special order and you can send us an email to clarify your needs and we will offer you a quote. We do not sell or carry the chinese knock off models
@maryannpagobo2553
@maryannpagobo2553 5 лет назад
thanks.. ill go check it out
@maryannpagobo2553
@maryannpagobo2553 5 лет назад
i check the site but you dont have 28mm size i guess.
@tomibutarbutar24riau85
@tomibutarbutar24riau85 5 лет назад
Good carb
@lametraserillos1
@lametraserillos1 6 лет назад
hi !! why is better the pwm than the pwk... ?? pwm is better for hi rpms and pwk is better for mid range??
@Swedetechracing
@Swedetechracing 6 лет назад
The PWM is not a better carburetor for all applications. For shifter kart racing on small grand prix tracks, we prefer this carburetor for our 125cc unrestricted Honda CR125 applications. We do use the PWK for dirt oval type (speedway) kart applications.
@lametraserillos1
@lametraserillos1 6 лет назад
ok,thanks !!
@markbryan7981
@markbryan7981 6 лет назад
Not sure if you will read this.... Would love some advice on my Pwk32 that I have on my NSR150RR.... 😉
@hubertocicilia3234
@hubertocicilia3234 4 года назад
Hi , is the pwm float bowl same as a pwk ?
@Swedetechracing
@Swedetechracing 4 года назад
You will have to look up the PWM model vs the specific PWK model that you have.
@lucianodelpizzo5688
@lucianodelpizzo5688 11 месяцев назад
Potresti fare un video dove spieghi il funzionamento del galleggiante?
@Swedetechracing
@Swedetechracing 11 месяцев назад
check this video out: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vf4Ty6Yc9SY.html
@scottmckenzie1162
@scottmckenzie1162 4 года назад
Hi I have the pwm 38 on my yz how do you set them so the motor will idle. Any advice would be much appreciated
@Swedetechracing
@Swedetechracing 4 года назад
The choke has a built in idle circuit. If you look at the top of the choke valve, it has an arrow indicating open. Turn the knob clockwise until it stops, this is closed. Rotate counterclockwise 30 clicks. Start there for idle. If you are between 30-40 clicks and you still don't have idle, move to the pilot jet. If this doesn't work for idle, contact a local reputable shop familiar with tuning your particular engine and application so they can give you a baseline on jetting
@dariofornaca4740
@dariofornaca4740 3 года назад
@@Swedetechracing what do you mean when you talk about “30 clicks”?
@Swedetechracing
@Swedetechracing 3 года назад
@@dariofornaca4740 start turning the choke knob and you will feel and hear a click about every 60 degrees. Twist it clockwise till it stops and then turn it counter clock wise, listen and feel the clicks - count 30 clicks - and that is usually when you start getting an idle.
@dariofornaca4740
@dariofornaca4740 3 года назад
@@Swedetechracing Thank you for the advice, i've another one question, if I don't get an idle i have to increase or decrease the pilot jet? (I think decrease but I'm not sure)
@Swedetechracing
@Swedetechracing 3 года назад
@@dariofornaca4740 typically you would decrease the pilot jet.
@jackyjackjack
@jackyjackjack 5 лет назад
Whats the different between pwk n pwm??any major.different?
@Swedetechracing
@Swedetechracing 5 лет назад
Without getting into the deep specifics, physical differences include different body and throttle bore lengths, slide designs, and internal fuel circuits are different. The PWM has a throttle / idle circuit combined. The PWK it is seperate. Generally the PWM carburetor works well with engines that require throttle response and power from the mid range to the top end. While the PWK with the longer carb body tract favors an engine or application that requires better throttle response on low rpms and throttle position. In karting, we use the PWM and PWK on the Honda CR125 engines adapted to sprint kart and enduro racing. Most favor the PWM for the power deliver range for that application. Many of our oval Outlaw Kart or Unlimited All Star karts prefer the use of the PWK for low end advantage.
@stevesolo16
@stevesolo16 5 лет назад
Khairul, I posted a brief comment on the practical reason why the PWM made its way into the world of 2-stroke racing. I don't feel the desire to share the physics behind the original circuitry in a blog style forum. However, I think the answer to your question should be satisfactory in my brief post. Cheers! BTW: the name Khairul means; a man with an unending reach for knowledge. In the world of racing I think your parents were wise beyond their formative years! I'm guessing the next great Muslim or Indian racing legend will be named Khairul, or Khairul Jr. What due you think???😉👍🏆🎉
@muhammadhamzahrobbani5654
@muhammadhamzahrobbani5654 Год назад
​@@Swedetechracing if we compare PWM to PJ, which one can potentially produce the highest top end power?
@DIOSpeedDemon
@DIOSpeedDemon 6 лет назад
That is some great advice. I have a huge channel on youtube and did not know these tips and tricks. Thank you very much and Respect. RH DIOSPEEDDEMON
@Swedetechracing
@Swedetechracing 6 лет назад
Thank you
@racingjoker9290
@racingjoker9290 4 года назад
Is this original keihin or china keihin?
@Swedetechracing
@Swedetechracing 4 года назад
This is an original Keihin we purchased from Sudco, so it is not original equipment. It is not the Chinese knockoff
@racingjoker9290
@racingjoker9290 4 года назад
How to purchase from sudco..?
@Swedetechracing
@Swedetechracing 4 года назад
contact swedetech - www.shopswedetech.com
@jasonmeador3144
@jasonmeador3144 Год назад
Yes I would lay off the caffeine a little bit.
@doctorwho3120
@doctorwho3120 6 лет назад
I hate this carb on my YZ250. Just won't idle.
@Swedetechracing
@Swedetechracing 6 лет назад
The idle circuit isn't independent on this carburetor, it is built into the choke circuit. For our racing applications, we do not use the idle function, but we have some customers that do. In order to have the carb idling, start your air screw 1 turn out. Then, turn the choke knob clock wise until it stops. This is fully closed. Next, turn the chock knob counter-clockwise to 30 clicks. If it still doesn't idle, open in 5 click increments. If you are between 40-45 clicks with no idle, check to see if your jetting is correct for your riding conditions and re-try.
@ronilotampus1088
@ronilotampus1088 Год назад
Boss can you give me carburator
@Swedetechracing
@Swedetechracing Год назад
Check out our website shopswedetech.com/product.php?productid=27 - we don't have them in stock we have to special order them. Thanks
@DayanEngineeringWorks
@DayanEngineeringWorks 2 года назад
Too much caffeine 🤣
@joeydirt420
@joeydirt420 Год назад
My slide has a bit of play and makes a click noise if i press on it or open throttle a tiny bit. Is this normal? Heres a video of the issue. m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MPImlaggGZE.html
@EverythingBallard
@EverythingBallard 6 лет назад
4 minutes to talk about two little details on a carburetor. The other 6 minutes and 36 seconds were spent mumbling about caffeinated shaking hands, camera focus, and shit that doesn't matter. Cut out the BS and your videos will have more views. But hey, I guess Swedetech doesn't make its money from RU-vid. It makes it from it's expensive parts. P.S. I love my fuel system for my cr125. It works wonders and has never flooded. Oh, my flywheel cover is sick too.
@Swedetechracing
@Swedetechracing 6 лет назад
We appreciate the feedback. We will continue to work on our quality and content of our videos. Regarding expensive fuel systems, talk to the racing associations who make the rules. The GFS was developed to fix a major problem karters face by being forced to use parts and equipment for motorcycles.
@EverythingBallard
@EverythingBallard 6 лет назад
editors note: i love the fuel system and was only joking about high prices. if people want the best, they'll just have to pay for it. muah!!!
@navyspecwarfare1
@navyspecwarfare1 6 лет назад
I don't care if Jason is caffeinated or even methed out of his damn mind; he and Reine been a huge help to me personally with my karting journey. Quality and service always worth paying a little more for, and the best of the best normally goes hand in hand with quirkiness in any category in business or life.
@Swedetechracing
@Swedetechracing 6 лет назад
Caffeinated, likely a little too much. Methed out, not in this shop.
@DIOSpeedDemon
@DIOSpeedDemon 6 лет назад
Show some RESPECT , Baldy-Lox......
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