Kempton Park Big Triple Steam Engine Starting 

And on top of that those steam engines were built to last

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it was dark, noisy and smelly - you would not have seen the engine anything this well

@@ghostrider-be9ek Titanics engine rooms were well ventilated and well lit

@@erikzidan2601 absolutely nothing like what this video shows, it would have been dark and noisy

@@ghostrider-be9ek the entire 4th funnel was for ventilation, it was noisy, I didnt say it wasnt and th engine rooms were not dark, you dont want to check pressure gauges in the dark, it was not lit like daylight but there was quite a lot of light becouse the engineers needed it

@@erikzidan2601 again, repeating for the 3rd time, it was nothing Ike this video shows, the big parts would have been mere shadows, the lights would have been down low where the gauges were, it would have been hot, smelly and oily

If you think this is immpressive look up the 100 ton gun on forgoten weapons.

This engine is nothing compared to the ones built in Milwaukee Wisconsin by Allis Chalmers

@@RJ1999x I hardly say they are nothing and do the Milwaukee engines still run?

@@johnhodges8264 of course they do, they were the absolute best built, and the largest ever made. In fact I have one

We know!

JDK Productions that’s the Victorians for you. Build it well and make it beautiful. Check out the programs hosted by Fred Dibnah. I think it was called Made in Britain. There’s actually a few parts to the series.

Remind of a paddle wheel boat on the chattahoochee river.

You should see the Crossness pumping station... It's like a cathedral inside.

There's just a certain something about this old stuff, an elegant touch.

@@nelsonmcgee3545 In Detroit, we had two steamships (built about 1898-1902) that transported thousands of people up and down the Detroit River to an amusement park in Canadian waters. They each had a big steam engine with a giant brass piston rod that went up and down like this one. My father would put me up on his shoulders and I could look down into the engine room where there were shirtless sweating men operating the engine amidst the oil and steam. It was very impressive.

My thoughts exactly. Those are some impressive castings, I wonder if that type of casting could even be done today. So much has been lost to modernization.

We needed a 1200 HP diesel for a business in Seattle that was going to work off the California coast running extension cords to offshore drill platforms. We were forced to buy the engine out of country because California deemed making a casting that big was contrary to their goal of clean air. Now…some 25 years later…I fully avoid do any business with anything connected to California including people. Racist of me I know. ;-)

They still do very large castings. They need nuclear reactors to be in one piece, so a single japanese company casts the entire reactor. As far as I know it's the largest they do today.

On a slightly smaller scale, you can see it being done in "A Study In Steel", which is a documentary on building a steam locomotive. Just make the casting moulds three times as big and use thirty times as much molten steel.

There are lots of off the self 1200 HP Diesel engines going back to the 1950's. Maybe you meant 12,000 HP! That would be a big casting and they are basically custom per customer. You can buy a low end horsepower Diesel locomotive prime mover from EMD. They actually start around 1500 HP that are reliable and tractable with highly available service with marine versions. Not cheap and weigh around 30 tons. You can find people, not in an hour, but you can get people that know those engines incredibly well. Also not cheap.

Living in England I’ve had the privilege of seeing this beautiful place. Unfortunately the engines weren’t in steam when I was there, but you’re right. As cool as the video is, you need to go there to truly appreciate the size of the engines and room as a whole. There is incredible detail that would simply be overlooked in the steam rooms design and the engines are a wonder, truly.

the age when things were built to last, not to break.

Rev it up!!!😅😅😅

The aroma of engine oil and aging machinery and buildings is indescribable.

Muito legal a preservação para a história isso é lendário que bacana.

That phrasing reminds me how an atomic bomb works. ...an explosion needs to happen, before THE explosion. Also, don't jet planes work on the "pilot-engine principle"? A gas engine starts the turbine engines. ...a diesel-electric train engine works on the same principle. A diesel motor powers individual electric motor cells.

My car is the same way. ;-)

Well, from just about every modern combustion engine requiring a starter motor to some electric motors requiring a start-capacitor, just about every efficient thing requires some kind of start, although for cap-start it's only because they run on AC. Synchrous electric motors have near 0 torque @ 0 rpm, like most combustion engines, as they rely on being at a constant speed in-phase with the power, so there is a myriad of ways people have come up with to start them, and one I recently found basically does a clever trick where the motor actually starts off an induction motor, then you can switch it to synch. So that motor needs a motor to start, but it becomes THE starter motor for itself! The shit people came up with.. This is from like he 1920s too! To this day this tech could be used, however it's not really needed as motors are more efficient and mains supply can take short bursts of high current draw, not to mention most synch motors needing some soft-start would be industrial, where having massive starting current is not necessarily an issue. Anyway, life's awesome :)

The gas turbines of the Me262, first mass-produced jet aircraft, had a small 2-stroke engine to power up.

its getting even more real when you need an engine to start an engine to start an engine up

And the prowess of the men who designed this. These clowns today couldn't come up with something this awesome with a gun to their head. One of my prize possessions is a full set of engineering textbooks from the early 20th century. It's such a joy to revisit the methods and rationale of the time.

@@johndoe-so2ef please, share some titles so I may or may not find a paperback copy! I adore old-time engineering...

What has replaced these machines to pump the water?

You don’t need cnc or cad to design and build such simple machines . It’s just a big Mamod ! It’s not rocket science!

@@pufango4059 These machines were designed by the people who now build CAD software programs. The most intelligent people worked on this. The knowledge, experience and commitment it took to come from nothing to such a complex installation was immense and it was put on paper piece by piece. The design department was structurally as complex as a personal computer. The machines used to machine these gigantic pieces of work were operated by workers who could not study because of their backgrounds, but were intelligent enough that they could have completed university studies at their leisure and who had gained experience in the factory from their early childhood. It was an unparalleled team effort.

It saddens me to see stuff like this go away....i love old reliable machines... Im 40 yrs old and i ride bikes from the 70s and 80s just because i love too... Ive run a few big machines before not like this though.... Let us never forget the past

Very cool I’m in Ann Arbor !!

All that giant steel and activity crating electric power without pollution. Except for the coal I assume it's using to heat the boilers.

This reminds me of looking down into the engine room of the Boblo Boat.

Wasn't there a documentary of some kind of how steam engines are capable of generating electricity?

All the torque.

hp = torque x rpm / 5252, assuming it could hit 60rpm for 1000hp, that is 87533 lb/ft

It says what it in in the description 🤗

Mark Bowman nope

@@joey66436 It is running at 17.5 rpm, therefore torque; 25,530 lbs/ft.

421,963 Nm

Yep I was wondering... thanks for the info 👍

I just don't think one of these will fit in a honda civic!!🤣🤣

You way off. For on thing there is no limit to the hp of steam and it depends on the pressure/volume or how many boilers are lit and stoked id guess conservative hp would be14,000 each. My car has1600 hp blown injected you are so far off

Try 30,000 combined

Coal fired steamship Titanic

indeed...it is the first time the semblance of life in the machine was seen, and power on a scale so much more than an animal or man could make. A turning point from ancient to now.

Before WWII Europe was the technology center. (China arguably was the leader before industrial revolution). Only thing US excelled before WWII was large aircraft. Fastest ship, locomotives, fighter planes, were all European (or Japanese). Only during the war US caught up with P-51 and been the leader ever since because the rest of the world needed to rebuild. If US continue to coasting, Europe, Japan and China will certainly catch up once again.

Believe me it was. I love to watch the engines at the old Victorian pumping station on the London sewage scheme from the 1850s and 60s.

simply put they don't make em like they used to

Sir, power stations steam turbines , I suppose??

Imagine building a boiler for 940 psi for turbine locos , Steam will be the Emperor soon !

Понимаю вас)Паровые машины особенно очаровывают на всегда)Невозможно их забыть)Они становятся частью тебя)

Majestic is an excellent choice of words.

@Broxavon Labs GIRL POWER That's the truth of it. The beauty of something like a steam engine is that it's workings are readily visible. Not only can you see it but you don't need to be able to know the engineering behind it to grasp the general sense of how it operates. The elegance of semiconductor technology is far more elusive both visually and conceptually to the point that it is regularly presented in movies as some type of CGI fly-through with lights and sparks to try to excite the audience.

if it's IT that thrills you have a gander at my other video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xlWKoB8AU7M.html

You should take a look at a hit & miss stationary engine with an open crank. Built along the designs of a steam engine but using internal combustion.

That remains to be seen doesn't it? Many have already failed, but many are working far past their expected life and largely un-maintained. Still not as pretty as this, but it's too early to guess how long electronics last.

You are spot on

Very right. It's sickening what passes for heros and music these days.

Not many people can fathom the amount of energy in superheated steam.

That's still done on board ships using superheated steam. The cloud of visible water vapor might be on the other side of the the room from where the leak originates.

I never even realized the necessity of something like that until now... Holy shit.. Imagine forgetting your broom and just getting taken off at the knees

@@kielcarson6776 Even if you forget "your" broom, there are usually many others available. In machinery spaces with high pressure steam, there are usually fiber or straw type bristle brooms stationed around the room. If you look closely, you realize that most of the broom straws are clean, as if they haven't ever been near the floor. Then you realize that you are probably standing on an open grating, so sweeping the floor wouldn't be a requirement. That's about the time one of the senior engineers will explain to you how to sweep you surroundings for a steam leak. When an alarm sounds or someone yells about a steam leak, everyone freezes momentarily, grabs the nearest broom and starts sweeping the air. This is only an issue in modern steam plants, running high pressure, superheated steam. Old engines like the Kempton engines aren't a problem. They run at much lower temperatures and pressure.

@@youtubejunky7481 Nuclear power via steam turbine.

That's great Andrew I'm guessing seeing these start was not a common occurrence, was the other pumping engine kept as a standby or did they both ump in anger when conditions required?

There were two of these powerplants in the RMS Titanic. One for each outer Port and Starboard screw with a steam turbine on the center screw before the rudder.

The ones on the Titanic produced 15,000 hp each and were much larger.

916fanatic1 You are right.

You are one of the lucky ones, that's for sure...

That's great to hear

two engines, 1008 hp per engine, 550 ft-lb/s per 1 hp, 60 sec per 1 min ... at 20 rpm ... Wouldn't it work out to 2 x 1008 x 550 x 60 / 20 = 3,326,400 ft-lb total torque?

LOL, ftlbs

English unit sucks

@D2RG6 at 20rpm by 1008hp it would be 481320 nm...

How many men using oars would there need to be to match that? Considering all men are all natty and 190 lbs and can bench press 250

Ody Slim where does the steam come from ie what flue is burnt too turn water too steam

@@matthewcoslett5398 don't think that's what Ody Slim was aiming for with his comment

A lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot of COAL TOO !!!!!

@@bastouneuroatypicmusic6885 The fuel is a non-issue you can use anything. If I remember right the Kempton Park steam engines currently just use a massive electric heating element to run.

@@luketorpedo If you really wanted to, you could plug it into a nuclear reactor, they too are nothing but a steam engine, just the fuel is not carbon, but uranium

The Ancient Greeks and Romans would love this thing.

The sad thing is that if an EMP or massive solar corona were to destroy our current modern technology, we may well end up having to re-use these beauties again.

@@WarHawk- one Carrington event sized X50 solar flare will smoke EVERYTHING digital on the planet. We missed one such event by 9 days in 2012

@Charles V. Swenson Is that really a sad thing though? It would be amazing to see these puppies in action all over the country, especially the ones in Cinncinati.

@@WarHawk- Sadly, we are quickly approaching the 5th Trumpet of Revelations, woah,Woah,Woah!, to follow, ... there may be many many EMPs. May God Bless us to see His Kingdom come, and then the re-building will truly begin.

Biggest engine cylinder in the earth 🌍😯

@Twisties jolley there was never an era named steam "punk". It's the 19th and 20th centuries.

I would give just about anything to be able to help take care of this beautiful work of art.

Bill Fitzpatrick steam.turbines are pretty cool, and only 1moving part

Bill, Then you saw the condensing steam turbine pump sitting at 7:40 on the lower deck. It looks to have a gearbox driving the pump like Ship Service Turbine Generators which ran at 10,000 rpm to turn a 1200 rpm generator. This stuff was my bread and butter when I worked for GE Marine Department.

EMP proof!

That you say you "ran" instead of "operated" some machine says all anybody with a mechanical clue needs to hear even before.the hilarious "ran turbines" bullshit. Engines "run" on their own, Mr. Machinist.

@@kimmer6 yup. After the big power outage happens, engines like these will provide the electricity needed to restart everything.

Coal fired steamship Titanic

And they haven't been able to build a car to save there asses.......

but the Vulcan was easily hijacked and water landed to steal its nuclear bombs. . .

@@farmerbill6855 Yeah they only build iconic vehicles.

Нам русским очень нравится ядерная ракета ,сатана , она при любой войне очень убедительно выглядет и совершенно

this engine is a toy in comparison to the ones built in Milwaukee Wisconsin by Allis Chalmers

Yes, the Operator & Oiler in the Engine Room and the Fireman in the Boiler Building.

Absolutely, it's essential to making it run properly !

And an oil can, not to forget.

The special paint for engines is called 'Engine Green'. It's usually green in colour...

Yep, a 11/16 Whitworth usually. Don't forget the oily rag too. Both of these things will fix anything on any engine pre-1946.

And the spammer is about 4 feet long

It's only a flight away my friend

the little starter engine is cute

There should be no compression on that engine... its not internal combustion, the pressure comes from the outside

@@the_retag Very valid point that ! It must slow down at pistons lowest point when there is less steam pressure aiding it ?

@@mikesgsg2912 also ulnikely, considering the big flywheel and the multiple pistons. But maybe it has got something to do with the fact that its triple expansion

That's heartening to hear

Thank you for your kind words

Perfectly balanced

You allowed the global capitalist banking system to leverage your currency. Happens to the best of us.

you spent the Empire on winning the 1st World War, and then took out loans and dismantled the last of the Empire (Destroyers for Bases, sale of Clemson class Destroyers formerly of the United States Navy for British Bases around the world) to fund the 2nd World War

Absolutely mesmerizing!

WW2 nd your fear of getting involved at the start of all the troubles...1936/37.

Artemis Fowl I think that was the plan- part of the reason the world wars were started. Can’t have a hugely powerful and great European Empire at its peak during your globalist takeover.

Mine too

It is to an extent, these were built with dedication and passion.

I sort of believe that they are.....

ive seen open end wrenches in shipyards large enough to remove the nut that holds the screw onto the main shaft. they use a large crane to turn the wrench.

+hallis1 Well, they probably looked at a single-expansion engine and thought, "Let's add two more expansions"

The real invention was the double expansion machine. Relative to the cost of design and manufacture this was a very worthwile boost for thermodynamic efficiency. From there on, triple expansion was essentially a repetition, further improving efficiency; but with a smaller gain than the first double expansion machines had brought. Even quadruple expansion machines were built but by that stage the advantage was essentially outweighed by the complexity, cost and weight of the machine itself. Later on, the timing of the steam admission became more precise and more instantaneous (using different types of steam valves) and this allowed the machine builders to go back to double expansion with the same overall efficiency as earlier triple expansion machines could. I went to the Dr. Wouda Gemaal in Lemmer, Netherlands a number of years ago. This is about the only place in the world where large-scale steam engines (albeit a lot smaller than in Kempton park!) can still be witnessed working at full blast. That watermill works is still in active duty as backup and emergency works to keep the province of Friesland from flooding. When I went there they had an extended period of heavy rainfall and all 4 machines were working at 120 rev. per minute. It was an impressive sight.

antiekeradio That's a neat story. o:

I'd seen in another video that the Triple Expansion steam engine was VERY efficient. For one in a ship - to move one ton of cargo one mile on the ocean (one ton-mile), it would only burn enough coal to weigh about the same as one sheet of paper - only a gram or two! Pretty damn impressive for 1830's technology!

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I can see why.

Indeed it is thank you for your appreciation

Thank you for your kind comments

Very interesting. Thank you for sharing. It's amazing to think that these incredible machines, and the expertise to operate them, were common once upon a time.

And they say that Titanics engines were bigger than these too so shows the size of them!

Yes they did

What if the Titanic got a rope or iceburg caught in its propeller - was it built to stall, or would the steam engine keep running, the high torque end of the gearbox would be under enough torsion to rip from the bearings or rip the hull itself apart

@@ddavyCn There was no Gearbox. Large Ships have the Propeller Shaft bolted directly to the Engine. That's why modern Ships have Two Stroke Diesels, as Four Stroke Engines couldn't deliver the high Torque at slow Speeds.

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You do know we don't use those things anymore?

He never said we do.

Hehe, I am of course aware that THIS machine does not power anything (anymore). I was just marveling at the machine and appreciating where our current power generation started. There are still incredible machines at work everywhere to make our lives "easy", and they all are working in the background.

Tea and hot showers were warmed by coal burning in a boiler in the home. No steam engines.

Wow that's fantastic, check the museums web site when they're having live days in steam, thank you for your memories .

If you get the opportunity, visit the USS Texas, she's the last surviving Dreadnought, and she has triple expansion steam engines like this

I got in to work on machine from the movie Sandpebbles with Steve McQueen.