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Ken Caminiti: Baseball's Most Bizarre MVP Winner 

Jolly Olive
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There are just 15 unanimous MVP winners in MLB since the beginning of the Expansion Era, and the list is full of players you'd exactly expect. Except for one guy, who just happened to tear down the Steroid Era in baseball. This is his story.
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@solo6088
@solo6088 2 года назад
Coming from a padres fan this man Cam is definitely an icon. That play where he threw the guy out from 3rd while sitting down was incredible. Arm strength out the roof. RIP
@joseaviles3198
@joseaviles3198 2 года назад
Astros fan here. He was a badass.
@tigercap100
@tigercap100 2 года назад
I haven't forgot
@Faded_36
@Faded_36 2 года назад
RIP Ken Caminiti! Dude was a stud.. Let’s go Padres!!
@N1120A
@N1120A 2 года назад
As a Dodgers fan, I was actually always much more scared of him defensively given all the hard hitting RHB we had during that time.
@busterbrown7583
@busterbrown7583 2 года назад
Amen to that! Rest in peace cam!
@orangehoof
@orangehoof 2 года назад
Jeff Bagwell can go on and on about what sort of a man Caminiti was. Before the 1994 season, Caminiti admitted to Bagwell and other teammates that he was an alcoholic and then put together his first All-Star season. Looking at it now, he was like golfer John Daly - he was an addiction addict. He always had to be chasing some new high or thrill. But Bagwell would tell you about what a great teammate he was - overly kind, generous and unpretentious. RIP Ken. It ended all too soon.
@gameonsports69
@gameonsports69 Год назад
Repent and believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ
@timyac
@timyac 2 года назад
Perhaps even weirder is that these are the only MVP votes Ken received in his entire career Edit: Damn you caught it
@gameonsports69
@gameonsports69 Год назад
Repent and believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ
@theathlete1903
@theathlete1903 2 года назад
Playing with the Padres in 98, Cam was a great dude! Made me feel welcome and part of the family! Salt of the earth cat! Just had bigger demons than others! RIP
@nozrep
@nozrep Год назад
oh an anonymous former pro-athlete commenting on the interwebs!? love it. I’ll bet those were some fantastic and fascinating times for you, aside from playing in the big leagues, just getting to interact and become friends with all sorts of interesting pro athlete personality types, including Caminiti!
@gameonsports69
@gameonsports69 Год назад
Repent and believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ
@baroqueguitarist5673
@baroqueguitarist5673 2 года назад
5:06 In hindsight how funny is that sign in the left field bleachers in Padre stadium that says "Juice Power" on one of Caminiti's homeruns lol
@ssojyeti2
@ssojyeti2 2 года назад
That throw from his back is easily one of the most insane and impressive plays I have ever seen
@gameonsports69
@gameonsports69 Год назад
Repent and believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ
@tedharrington5432
@tedharrington5432 2 года назад
I still remember Ken Caminiti's MLB debut on July 16th 1987, which was just a couple of days after my 20th birthday. Ken Caminiti's first hit was Triple (if I remember correctly) and his second hit was a Homerun, which was shocking since the announcers commented that Ken Caminiti was going to be an all glove and light hitter type of player. Man did Ken Caminiti have a cannon for an arm, I can still remember some of those throws, as you have shown in your video, that I still cannot believe he was able to achieve. Yes, I was one of those Astros fans back in 1994 who was extremely pissed when the Astros traded Ken Caminiti (and Andujar Cedeno) to the San Diego Padres.
@DGood73
@DGood73 2 года назад
Ken's debut was very memorable, and he was AWESOME on defense, and that arm ... Should have won the Gold Glove in 1989 and 1994 -- his best defensive days came during his first stint with Houston, but years of hard living and playing on the Astrodome turf didn't help. My book about Ken, Playing Through the Pain, just got published this week and should be available wherever books are sold.
@MarinersFalloutfan
@MarinersFalloutfan 2 года назад
Steve Finely too
@gameonsports69
@gameonsports69 Год назад
Repent and believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ
@stefanalvarado
@stefanalvarado 2 года назад
Thank your friend Jomboy, I wouldn't have seen this, or subbed, without them.
@sporer_
@sporer_ 2 года назад
5:30 THIS THROW IS INSANE
@Shinobi33
@Shinobi33 2 года назад
Steroids or not he was a very skilled baseball player. A switch hitting defensive wizard
@AnimeBronx
@AnimeBronx Год назад
😂😂😂😂 it was all roids
@willmach
@willmach Год назад
​@@AnimeBronxI'd love to see Arnold hit a fastball
@gameonsports69
@gameonsports69 Год назад
Repent and believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ
@jeffTcorbin81
@jeffTcorbin81 2 года назад
Trying to understand Cammy's 96' season based on just stats is like judging a meal based on someones else's farts. You had to have been there..
@billysikes1374
@billysikes1374 2 года назад
Ken was 1 of my favorite players growing up
@ShrexyGuy
@ShrexyGuy 2 года назад
I respect a man who admits to short comings far more than one who denies any wrongdoings or shortcomings. One takes balls to do, the other just takes narcissism
@gameonsports69
@gameonsports69 Год назад
Repent and believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ
@senororlando2
@senororlando2 2 года назад
dude’s post-baseball life was so tragic. RIP
@gabrielrockman
@gabrielrockman 2 года назад
Barry Bonds could have won the NL MVP award that year. Bonds led the league with 9.7 WAR. He had one of the very rare 40 HR 40 SB seasons. He also had 122 runs, 129 RBIs, 151 walks and a .308 batting average. But I suppose Bonds won enough MVP awards in his career without winning this one.
@N1120A
@N1120A 2 года назад
Bonds could have won the MVP in almost every season. Literally
@TheAlfrulz
@TheAlfrulz Год назад
I remember Bonds '97 season well. He was deserving of the MVP, but I believe the main reason Caminiti won out was because San Diego won the Western division while San Francisco finished in a distant last place with 90 plus losses. They almost always reward a player that contributed to a winning ball club. That and probably familiarity fatigue hurt Bonds from winning it yet again.
@gameonsports69
@gameonsports69 Год назад
Repent and believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ
@davidsax4460
@davidsax4460 2 года назад
I saw a lot of those games in the Dome back in the late '80s - early '90s, and - steroids or not - he was as fine a fielding 3rd baseman as I've ever seen. Met him once after a game, and he had me climb up on the runner of his massive white pickup truck to get a ball signed. Nice dude. RIP, indeed. Gone too soon.
@gameonsports69
@gameonsports69 Год назад
Repent and believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ
@dannydonvito
@dannydonvito 2 года назад
As a Houstonian I remember when he passed away. I was a teen and cut out the houston chronicle article and hung it on my wall for a few years. Thanks for the wonderful video
@gregdiiamond3899
@gregdiiamond3899 2 года назад
I remember when played for the Braves. It was hard to watch him. He was a shell of what he as with the Stros and Friars. I remember when he passed. He was one of my favorite players.
@whitedeion598
@whitedeion598 2 года назад
His forearms were so huge at that point I remember thinking he looked like a cartoon. He wound up tearing his bicep. Not a very common baseball injury. That injury led to signing Julio Franco from the Mexican league
@joshw9424
@joshw9424 2 года назад
Good video and good assessment. Yeah I agree with you that it doesn't excuse a lot of these guys for cheating / using steroids during that era, but I at least respect when a guy like Caminiti or McGwire owns up to it and/or admits remorse for the damage done to not only their bodies but the game itself -- which is more than we will ever see from Bonds, for example.
@SadmanBaseball
@SadmanBaseball 2 года назад
I remember being so excited when he came to play for the Braves. Hi Jolly.
@JollyOlive
@JollyOlive 2 года назад
Hi Dan!
@ryanupchurch9683
@ryanupchurch9683 2 года назад
Ken was a really nice guy. Invited me as 12 year old in the dugout in spring training.
@colem6553
@colem6553 2 года назад
In 1998 I caught Ken Camminiti's 38th home run ball against the Rockies. I went to a game with my little league team
@KenDrPH
@KenDrPH 2 года назад
A really sad story...especially where he was found 🙏
@trutty
@trutty Год назад
how did i miss this video? 1 year ago it was uploaded? what a gem
@hopemartinez2534
@hopemartinez2534 2 года назад
Miss this man terribly. He was part of the Padres dream team. I had the privilege to watch those guys.
@gameonsports69
@gameonsports69 Год назад
Repent and believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ
@therealmcromano319
@therealmcromano319 2 года назад
I love seeing crazy pop off seasons throughout history, Zoilo Versailles, Denny McLain, and Rico Petrocelli come to mind
@Leftylobber
@Leftylobber 2 года назад
RIP one of my favorite players ever
@satanspit4101
@satanspit4101 2 года назад
Im sad too. We should weiner sword fight. To cheer ourselves up.
@udunn0jb
@udunn0jb 2 года назад
Maybe I missed where he mentioned it but it took me a little while to notice dude was a switch hitter too. Impressive
@talkinbravesdave
@talkinbravesdave 2 года назад
2:25 thank you for including that clip
@Bajirkus
@Bajirkus 6 месяцев назад
Caminiti won the Gold Glove in 1995, 1996, and 1997, which likely contributed to assessments of his value, even in available defensive metrics suggest those years weren't that great for him (although 1996 was a notable step up compared to 1995, 1997, and 1998 for Caminiti) and that it was his reputation built earlier in his career that earned him those awards. Still, a .326 BA, 40 HR, and a Gold Glove at 3B does make sense as an MVP, especially since guys on fringe playoff teams had a huge advantage due to voter narratives that drove the MVP award in that era. His Padres finished 1 game ahead of the Dodgers in the NL West, and were only 3 games from being left out of the playoffs entirely, meaning his value was critical. Barry Bonds, although posting another classic Bonds season of comical numbers (and this was almost certainly before he started eating a well balanced breakfast) and 9.7 WAR, played for a 68 win team - in many 90s voters' eyes, this meant his MVP credentials were weaker because "how valuable can he be if he didn't even break into the GM's office and start building the roster? Silly Barry!" That said, the AL MVP that year, Juan Gonzalez, was the real weird choice. In an era swarming with offensive production, they gave it to the 5th best Texas Rangers player. When young, pre-steroids A-Rod saw that, is there any wonder why he juiced?
@freethepeople4093
@freethepeople4093 2 года назад
Regardless of the steroids, his arm strength and defense skills at 3rd were super impressive.
@gameonsports69
@gameonsports69 Год назад
Repent and believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ
@tinypoolmodelshipyard
@tinypoolmodelshipyard Год назад
Ken went to San Diego and became buds with Greg Vaughn. Vaughn introduced him to the roids and the rest was history. This is my theroy i have no proof of, but yeah, he linked wirh Vaughn and they balled out while shooting eachother in the behind before each game
@LocalManMakesMusic
@LocalManMakesMusic 2 года назад
If anyone ever graphed MLB player neck circumference over the years, the 90s would be off the charts.
@celestinolaporte2836
@celestinolaporte2836 2 года назад
Dude great job on this 👏🏼👏🏼
@owenloehr1746
@owenloehr1746 2 года назад
Saturdays are always better when Jolly Olive uploads
@jacobmccain8082
@jacobmccain8082 11 месяцев назад
Caminiti always stuck out to me as someone I was jealous of as a kid. Insane range, could hit and hit for power, and that arm. What a cannon.
@user-ly4bz9fw3k
@user-ly4bz9fw3k 2 года назад
caminiti was a tragic case.....he had an injury and turned to steroids to get well and suddenly had great year.....but his substance abuse had really gotten out of hand near the end.....it appeared bagwell and biggio had tried hard to help him but after his divorce things got worse
@s.l.dixononline
@s.l.dixononline 2 года назад
How I never seen that footage of him running into the cop before?!
@bobbyleglocks1992
@bobbyleglocks1992 3 месяца назад
He was my neighbor in Richmond Texas. In high school i a few if us would hang out there and drink. It was obvious Kem had a drinking problem ( he could out drink us high school kids) but he was always a great guy to us in the neighborhood. Rip Ken.
@SmoothCriminal12
@SmoothCriminal12 2 года назад
To think Houston went from making the fleece of the decade (Finley, Schilling and Harnisch for Glenn Davis), to getting fleeced on a major level themselves just a few years later (Derek Bell and scraps for Finley and Caminiti).
@shoukatsukai
@shoukatsukai 2 года назад
Before that, they also gave the Red Sox reliever Larry Andersen in exchange for a prospect named Jeff Bagwell.
@SmoothCriminal12
@SmoothCriminal12 2 года назад
@@shoukatsukai to think the Red Sox could've had a top of the lineup of Garciaparra, John Valentin, Bagwell and Mo Vaughn...
@unkledoda420
@unkledoda420 2 года назад
"fleece of the decade" 🤣😂 You're massively over exaggerating that trade. Sure, Houston were the winners in that deal because of how Davis' career panned out afterwards but you make it sound like they got multiple all stars in return. Harnish played 4 years in Houston, 2 of which were pretty good (1 all star season) and the other 2 were sub-par. At this point Schilling was no where near the borderline HOFer he became later in his career, and only played 1 season for the Astros. He wasn't even used as a starter, he was a mediocre relief pitcher that year. Finley played 4 years in Houston while he was a decent leadoff guy, he hadn't yet become the gold glove winning all star he would after leaving. His first 2 years in Houston he put up above average offensive numbers but nothing amazing, and his last 2 seasons were average to below average in production and he was injured for half of one of those seasons. Had the Astros held on to Finley and Schilling and still developed them into what they later became and kept Harnish healthy after that all star season then I could see giving this trade such a title.
@DGood73
@DGood73 2 года назад
The Astros fleeced Baltimore and Boston (Bagwell-Andersen) then got largely fleeced by Cleveland (Lofton-Taubensee) then gave up Schilling for Grimsley... fascinating time.
@SmoothCriminal12
@SmoothCriminal12 2 года назад
@@DGood73 And they also could've taken Jeter in the 1992 draft but chose Phil Nevin... So they could've had a top of the lineup of Lofton, Jeter, Biggio and Bagwell had they played their cards right...
@LEEMAN-X
@LEEMAN-X Год назад
When real men played sports unlike today. Dude was cracking homers with a jacked up shoulder and broken ribs, I could care less about the steroids honestly since everyone was doing them. I didnt even like the Padres but I always liked how gritty Cam was.
@dumpnchase
@dumpnchase 2 года назад
Loved him that season. Had him on my roto team. Helped me win the championship. He had some glove at 3rd base.
@l.rongardner2150
@l.rongardner2150 2 года назад
Caminiti's offense benefited from 'roids on a Brett Boone/Brady Anderson/Jason Giambi/Jose Canseco level. But his defense was gold glove level before the PEDs.
@99bimmer
@99bimmer 10 месяцев назад
@2:47 was insane. Sure, players make that throw pretty often, but they usually 2 hop it. Cam threw a friggin strike
@JonathanMartin884
@JonathanMartin884 2 года назад
7:56 Troy Glaus is pronounced like "floss."
@HonkyTonkHellraiser
@HonkyTonkHellraiser 2 года назад
I've never once thought of Cammy as a glove first guy
@troywilson7302
@troywilson7302 2 года назад
My dad played slow pitch softball with his brother and was involved in multiple facets of his life.
@brettg274
@brettg274 2 года назад
San Diego loves Ken Caminiti!
@brando7266
@brando7266 2 года назад
Hell yea,cam is still one of my favorite padre,only mvp in team history,
@smacktavis
@smacktavis Год назад
One of the best seasons ever by a 3rd baseman! A switch hitting and defensive GOD
@blueduster74
@blueduster74 Год назад
Stats alone don’t decide MVP awards. His hits and defensive plays were always at a crucial time.
@mabmab6260
@mabmab6260 2 года назад
Caminiti retired as an Atlanta Braves. He did not retire as an Astro. This video makes it seem he only played for the Astros and Padres and never even mentions the fact that the last team he played for was the Atlanta Braves. He only played for 3 teams and this guy already mentioned 2 of them. There is only one more team to mention and it's the team he retired with. How hard is that?
@i8FriedRice
@i8FriedRice 2 года назад
As a Padres fan, I’m glad jomboy brought me here
@bob8776
@bob8776 2 года назад
Detroit beating SD in the 84 world series is a fact but I wouldn't describe it as "fun"
@IAmJoeJericho
@IAmJoeJericho 2 года назад
I'm still proud to wear my Camminiti jersey and only San Diegans would know what's up
@stevenmontelongo6181
@stevenmontelongo6181 8 месяцев назад
Anybody notice that throw from third when he was on his butt hit the first baseman right in the chest? A perfect throw.
@asdfaeou
@asdfaeou 2 года назад
This was a very fair and even keel tackling of some fragile topics.
@joshuapatrick682
@joshuapatrick682 2 года назад
Hey, y’all Do know there was no steroid ban in baseball til 2005 right? Can we just go ahead and right there wrongs all the HoF snubs? Of remove bud Zelig’s plaque?
@TiagoGomez-hb9te
@TiagoGomez-hb9te 4 месяца назад
Because MLB's scripted
@trevortees4827
@trevortees4827 2 года назад
by far my most favorite player ever.
@DGood73
@DGood73 2 года назад
I just wrote a book about him! "Playing Through the Pain." Available wherever books are sold.
@axe2grind244
@axe2grind244 2 года назад
Not as bizarre as G Stanton winning MVP by striking out a lot and leading his team to a last place finish.
@camionerosfurgoneros5915
@camionerosfurgoneros5915 2 года назад
I'm a Dodgers fan And this guy was a beast
@jonathanmueller8257
@jonathanmueller8257 2 года назад
2018 mookie betts. rip to a legend
@devinmorrison2993
@devinmorrison2993 2 года назад
2:25 WTH was that security guy doing?
@DGood73
@DGood73 2 года назад
He went the wrong way! Was trying to get out of the way and inadvertently went in Ken's path.
@airt698
@airt698 10 месяцев назад
I am a huge dodger fan, piazza karros and mondesi were all in there primes during Caminitis run it was frustrating and I hated Caminiti but no doubt he was a beast
@cknsok
@cknsok Год назад
Steroids or not, that's arm strength porn from third base.
@fastlane1205
@fastlane1205 2 года назад
Definitely need a Willie Hernandez video, tigers closer in 84 where he won cy young and an MVP I’ve never understood why he won it either
@luishumbertovega3900
@luishumbertovega3900 2 года назад
Agree with you, and like Hernández I'm from Puerto Rico. Yes, a closer helps but the game is almost in the bag when the closer enter, he may get the save on 40 or 50 games but what about the other 122 or 112 games on the schedule? Or about the other 55 or 45 wins they need ?
@CrushD19
@CrushD19 2 года назад
How is it bizarre? He did it all. He focused on taking certain steroids to focus on certain skill sets. He did not hide that he took the juice.
@javi__...
@javi__... 2 года назад
Oh man. I completely forgot about Troy Glaus.
@eshep71
@eshep71 2 года назад
I never realized he was a switch hitter
@K_Ray_Kenneth_Raymond
@K_Ray_Kenneth_Raymond 2 года назад
You should do a video of the team that was always just one pitch away, the Jolly JoZos
@elaikehler6030
@elaikehler6030 2 года назад
Manny Machado is on pace to have a Caminiti esque season as of right now
@SuperNuclearUnicorn
@SuperNuclearUnicorn 2 года назад
Yikes, the story of him playing a season with a torn rotator cuff made me cringe hard. That's just absurd, especially if you're throwing yourself around trying to dive on balls and whatever. God, I just can't get the image of how much that would have hurt out of my head
@B0LES
@B0LES 3 месяца назад
I could be wrong but I believe he was also an active drug addict during this stretch. While tragic how things ended for him, that is mind blowing.
@CSDonohue11
@CSDonohue11 2 года назад
3B Sheffield exploded with the Padres too when He got over there to play The Hot Corner Those were Shef’s best years. He didn’t look silly roided yet But I’ll bet they both got on them while in SD just from judging their Offensive increases being SO ASTRONOMICAL
@ryanfritts1574
@ryanfritts1574 2 года назад
The macerena
@ticnatz
@ticnatz 2 года назад
Caminiti isn't nearly as forgotten as Zoilo Versalles....
@joeligmacandace9356
@joeligmacandace9356 Месяц назад
Leigh high legend
@LCDouglas
@LCDouglas 4 месяца назад
That throw from his ass was nuts.
@superintelligentapefromthe121
Cam and Greg Vaughn were crushing baseballs back in the day. That was a fun fucking team man.
@JeffyPDiddy
@JeffyPDiddy 2 года назад
Caminiti finished 3rd in posistion player WAR for the 1996 season with 7.6. The AL MVP in 1996 was Juan Gonzalez with 3.8 WAR. 🤡
@DGood73
@DGood73 2 года назад
Yep.
@deshaundozier
@deshaundozier 2 года назад
How do you hit 42 home runs with 120 RBI’s, but finish 6th?
@TiagoGomez-hb9te
@TiagoGomez-hb9te 4 месяца назад
Steroid Era baseball
@sinatra222
@sinatra222 2 года назад
Hot take: Olerud deserved it over Thomas in 1993. I couldn't believe that he didn't get a single first place vote.
@josemurillo8668
@josemurillo8668 9 месяцев назад
Dude doubled in size lol
@JacksonLloyd-o2h
@JacksonLloyd-o2h Год назад
Interesting
@testingmyaudioaddiction3452
@testingmyaudioaddiction3452 2 года назад
Just remember this: PEDs don’t always make you better, despite their name!
@joshgobble
@joshgobble 2 года назад
Troy "Glowse" ? lmao
@jessestaywavy
@jessestaywavy 2 года назад
Lmfao they all cheated at that time... Besides that. These men still had monster careers lol
@garnerhedrick3195
@garnerhedrick3195 2 года назад
E
@sporer_
@sporer_ 2 года назад
#1Dot
@FastDuDeJiunn
@FastDuDeJiunn 2 года назад
never knew he died, i only learned TOny Gwynn died last year i think. i just dont follow news well. Anyways sad how these people get hooked on drugs. Enough money to do anything in the world. Go anywhere almost. they choose alchol and drugs............... never understand it
@SMSBJM1981
@SMSBJM1981 2 года назад
If you look at those with mvp votes for each year on Baseball reference you will find some head scratchers.
@OH_MY_DOGGG
@OH_MY_DOGGG 2 года назад
Food for thought I wanted 2008 MVP to go to K-Rod but as a Sox fan I'm not gonna gripe and groan about Pedroia winning it. Hindsight is 20/20. But I thought so very much 14 years ago.
@Brhoward31
@Brhoward31 2 года назад
Piazza should've won
@steveschmidt3961
@steveschmidt3961 2 года назад
godamn man how can you mention that trade and not talk about pedro martinez being involved in that....smh lol
@stupidd6513
@stupidd6513 2 года назад
Is he a HOF'er?
@lertmelernyers8672
@lertmelernyers8672 2 года назад
Punkin eater
@TheRandalHandle
@TheRandalHandle 2 года назад
The roid monster himself
@gameonsports69
@gameonsports69 Год назад
Repent and believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ
@TiagoGomez-hb9te
@TiagoGomez-hb9te 4 месяца назад
Explain please
@bigkahuna5381
@bigkahuna5381 2 года назад
Cody bellinger is gonna be the most bizarre MVP winner of all time
@HonkyTonkHellraiser
@HonkyTonkHellraiser 2 года назад
OPS is the most overrated stat in ⚾️. So is slugging %
@unkledoda420
@unkledoda420 2 года назад
I completely forgot that Willie McGee won an MVP award. Honestly IMO, Dwight Gooden probably should've won MVP that season, but Dave Parker, Pedro Guerrero, and Dale Murphy all put up seasons that one could argue were just s good or better than McGee's.
@m_dave2339
@m_dave2339 2 года назад
He has not been forgotten in San Diego. As a 90's kid he was one of my idols
@gameonsports69
@gameonsports69 Год назад
Repent and believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ
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