No CGI, no fancy camera tricks, just a couple of samurai dudes and hundreds of extras on horseback out there in a field living their best lives. Cinema the way it was meant to be.
No choppy cuts, jerky camera angles, or attempts to obscure their movements, they just showed it for exactly what it was, a fight to the death between friends. When did Hollywood forget how to do drama?
This duel gave me relief that a thousand CGI jumping clowns in armor, I wish I could see this masterpieces obliterate the stupid lightening and power posing and I know I would have not have justice in a Disney dominated world, so will let the Gods decide. I demand a movie by combat
Wish world leaders have balls like them to settle their disputes in a gentlemen way like this duel, so that the blood of innocent young men who followed them doesn't need to spill.
Truth is, Usami was Kagetora's loyal retainer and he never rebelled, also, Kagetora is extremely ruthless to a point similar to Timur, he love massacring towns and villages and would not spare even a child. War is always bloodshed and this man in particular is a jerk, he does not rely on fear tactics, but only wants to see people suffer.
Too many weak men who would normally have died have been able to prosper and reproduce. They have no balls and will never act in such manner, like real men. What you say is so true. They declare war every ten years, send innocents to kill other innocents just for enjoyement and economic agendas...
Oh, you've never been to Japan, they are masters of the arts of polite aggression and passive aggression, it's truly a beautiful thing. The British are pretty good at it as well, nothing more hilarious than to see someone look like they are kissing ass, when in actuality, they laying down deeply cutting insults.
Samurai were basically knights not kings (basically the same as Achillies, Jason, etc) who served under feudal nobility until Tokugawa established the first Shogunate with superior strategy, diplomacy, a lot of mercenaries, an amount of luck and a crap ton of firearms. He was essentially Japan's Napoleon Bonaparte.
@@SurmaSampo I beg to differ, Samurai is a way of life, just like a soldier, you can call a Private up to General as soldier, because they served under higher command. Achilles was not a soldier, he's a warrior, fought for his own glory and fortune. But in this particular scene, they are both leaders of the army, and fights each other instead ask their subordinate to do the job, just like what Achilles want it. Anyway, this argument is totally unnecessary, and most unimportant, I don't know why I even bothered to reply...
A leader that does this is not going to waste your life for a point of honour or in a fit of pique. Worth supporting, yes. He'll maintain peace, even at the risk of his own life. So different from the cowards in office today.
@@stonem0013 Bloodthirsty and vicious is not how they were behaving, they spoke with respect, fought with an honorable sense of regret for what they must do. And they did this most importantly sparing the ridiculous bloodshed of the two armies clashing. These are the type of people who would avoid violence if they lived in today's world.
Of course this movie scene was stylized to a maximum of samurai spirit hagakure. The difficulty to overcome the armor gives a hint how brutal actual combat must have been. No way to easily kill or be killed. You would have needed to stab your opponent right into the face, neck or armpits which is horrific in itself. But most likely the fighters would exhaust themselves in exchange of blows so one finishes the other ultimatively in close combat Hand to Hand struggle. with his Tanto knife or Wakizashi short sword. People usually don’t just give up on life that easily. They struggle as long as they can and panic once death seems close. Of course this scene was to show and glorify the superior self control and dignity of those two leaders but actual combat, even under samurai, must have looked a thousand times more traumatizing. And I suspect actual samurai - at least those who had what it took - were simply too bestialized and traumatized by what they experienced to still care much anymore.
Most of the comments here seemed to miss the point of this final duel completely. These two seemed to know each other from the past and acknowledged it so. There was respect all the way up until the end. It wasn't about the fight. It was tragic that fate had to pit two friends against each other and you find yourself wishing there was another way and they should have teamed up instead.
If you watch the whole movie you will see it is not exactly "fate" that set them against each other. The man in the green was a lieutenant of the man in the black, and betrays him because he doubts his resolve after not giving the order to kill Takeda's wife and child when they are taken hostage. This is why they end up fighting. Usami chooses to go against his lord and ends up choosing the losing team.
The same happened during the American civil war. Veterans of the Mexican war who had fought together were pitted against one another. Their duty commanded them to fight their old comrades.
the green samurai dismounted his enemy fair and square. If he continued fighting in horseback he might have won. These warriors fight for their honor, a selfish cause.
He simply was too polite to befoul his opponents blade with his blood. After all it could have meant an inconvenience for him to clean it afterwards. What a polite leader he was.
Exchanging words in a fight to the death is a way to fight with honor and respect... If the opponent you are about to kill asks a question, it would be best to answer it, otherwise you're just an ignorant cock
@@trumpershaveblinderson7470 For you it is probably toxic, for warriors like them it's not. in their mindset, to die fighting a skilled warrior is an Honor.
@@trumpershaveblinderson7470 you can battle and still hold respect for your opponent, this is why there's difference between Obi Wan vs Maul's final duel in Star Wars Rebels where Obi Wan sat there and comforted Maul even in with his last breath. And Achilles dragging Hector's corpse after killing him(which is pretty toxic).
@@gamechanger8908 You missing my point. They shouldn't have been to. Toxic/Sinful actions lead to the physical altercation. 1 worrier acknowledging another warriors skill. Is not what I was referring to.
I found this figth acne to be a tear jerker at the end when the one in green told his energy to kill him and not to hesitate as there soldiers are watching ,I found that bit heart warming.
I enjoyed the fact they road all the way to the middle of the Battlefield to complement each other on their deeds and then decided to give the men a show.
This is the epic legendary fight. Two people duel to the death acknowledged each other with respect. The best way to die without need bloods appear. So noble and honor... . . . "My honor dies in the beach"
as a Japanese person, this is realistic because even against enemies, disciplined samurai are taught to respect one another. with some exceptions. they’re very noble.
@Tim J i said disciplined, so i think the bar of “noble samurai” is a little higher, those like from big families. but you are right indeed, they were bandits that *experimented* their techniques on innocent people
yeah, u got 1 thing wrong, im not talking about wars, im talking about individual fights(1v1's) yeah doe in war they dont give a sh*t lol, but in some circumstances they still give honor for the bravery of the lost opponent @@madkilla707
Movies are just movies. In reality, Japanese daimyos and generals would only sit on small benches, gaze at the battlefield, and let soldiers go to die.
Probably because Usami was once Uesugi Kenshin's most trusted guards. Usami served Uesugi for quite long time and even participated in the battle of Kawanakajima against Takeda Shingen's forces
@@myrica8397 And to add a side note to that, this part is entirely fictional, Usami remained steadfast over his loyalty to Kagetora, instead there were two man rebelled after the 4th battle of kawanakajima, whom I am quite sympathetic to and not, for they remained sufficiently loyal to Kagetora, saving his life on battlefield but only grow too over the top and angered Kagetora by talking too much of them saving their master's life and were compelled to death, or rebel.
I feel like I'm watching two actual samurai, they don't use flashy moves or anything, just straight to the point. I mean, obviously my knowledge of their real fighting styles is limited but from what I do know, they did use spears first and switch to sword only as a backup. Only maybe the kick from the ground looks a bit awkward
Bro most of Greek nations had a tradition of generals fighting alongside their soldiers what do you mean? One of their drawback, yes, but they had massive balls.
Ahhhhh. Not "enemies" but "opponents". That is how one finds respect in battle. To have an enemy is a waste of time and effort because that is a never-changing situation, regardless of the circumstances. However, to respect one's opponent still leaves room for reconciliation and productive efforts after the battle.
True. But this is 16th century, Renaissance era. They had guns and European style breastplates existed. so you havent seen the rather weird looking giant square ones from the 12th century age hehe
They mostly adopted the full breastplate but the helmet continued to be a complex riveted anachronism, the front arm armour is mostly primitive in form but superiorly decorated
They have already guns during 16th century AD. if you want to see the best battle and armors just go back 1,600 years ago from samurai era to during Roman Republic civil war, where techniques and formation and discipline are supremes.
@@2adamast there is fullly armoured armour for front arm that existed, there was full breast plate before European arrived, tosei gusoku and nanban gusoku were peak in Armour. There is website that shows how samurai could be 95% covered if they really wanted to
Ghost has all kinds of new and exciting recommendations for me to watch. A game that is reviving history to millions and with any luck, the virtue of honor.
this is my favorite samurai movie besides (Director Akira Kurosawa works), because of Usami's character and script that is so beautifully written. I especially love that at 3:23 'Your skills are not good enough to kill Takeda.'
What strange beauty in their relationship. And what an interesting attitude to have: gratitude, "you have given me a place to die". And always concern about their men and each other's honor. Touching, really.
Perfect portrayal of the conflict between humanity and duty&honour in a Japanese Samurai. I really felt this random video, and feel like a lot has been lost in modern culture (for good or bad).
You have no idea what you're talking about. This "Honor" nonsense is something which is made up for Westerners to feel emotional about in movies. In reality go to any culture outside of West and find out how honor nonsense actually plays out. Africa, Middle East and central Asia men k*** women for desecration family honor. There are some example in the Pacific Asia as well. What is shown in movies is misrepresentation of what Honor actually is. In reality Honour is a fancy word for EGO.
@@blacklight4720 no I'm not talking about duels. "Similar to other Southern/Mediterranean European areas, the honor was traditionally important in Italy. Indeed, until 1981, the Criminal Code provided for mitigating circumstances for such murdering; until 1981 the law read: "Art. 587: He who causes the death of a spouse, daughter, or sister upon discovering her in illegitimate carnal relations and in the heat of passion caused by the offense to his honor or that of his family will be sentenced from three to seven years. The same sentence shall apply to whom, in the above circumstances, causes the death of the person involved in illegitimate carnal relations with his spouse, daughter, or sister." Traditionally, honor crimes used to be more prevalent in Southern Italy."
@octavian7637 Interesting, I didn't know that. But I'm also not surprised it comes from Southern Italy. If I understood you correctly, you're talking about the criminal part of society. What about common people? Honor killings in Italy were a thing in the Medieval ages or did they come later on? Which source of information you use?
If only the world fought wars today like they did in the past .. sometimes the leaders or each sides or champions could save thousands if not millions of lives by 2 men meeting instead of entire nations.
I mean, sure there are such things like honorable duels, but im pretty sure most wars on the past are also filled with massive battles and even genocide being dealt, much more were happening then than now!!
@@danendraaryadewa5455 Very true, most so called great warriors and military leader would have some, if not many atrocities committed throughout his career. People are not romantic at all.
Epic film...I stumbled upon it one late night in the late 90’s and immediately declared it as one of my all time favorite movies...Heaven and Earth, nearly impossible to find. I have searched for years and years to get my my hands on a copy.
Because of some dumb militarist in Edo period who has nothing to do but fabricate story about Kenshin and exonerate him as God of War(in practise Gunshin was referring to virtuous warriors which could never be applied to someone like Kagetora)
loved how samurais back then honor their enemies even if it means death to them and now people in xbox lobbies are willing to murder eachother's family because they lose in a round
Два васильковых солнышка .. Ты - явь в миллионы карат под дымчато-жёлтою кроной. Светилам блакитным я рад, как инок целебной иконе. Проталина в сердце моём от глаз твоих солнечно-майских, как печь растеплила мой дом, согрев очаговою краской. Как айсберг в груди, ледоход, за миг отогревшись немного, сердечко вдруг начало ход, как грешник к собору и Богу. А их лучезарный поток очистил легко и забавно. Прозрение с суммою строк меня посетили внезапно. От шарма небесных монет согрелось всё царство торосов. Ты - мой широчайший ответ на тысячи важных вопросов!
Yes,according to my son,during the Sengoku no Jidai "Age of a Country At War" ,it was exactly this way.,because some neighboring provinces were forced to become vicious enemies,whether they were allies,friends,or both.He's never been to Japan,but his educated guess is either the 2 Rival Courts;Kyoto, and Yoshioka may have started it,or maybe before that time through the vicious arguments between the 2 Clans from the 14th century; Kamakura Minamoto Clan...who immigrated from China, didn't want to disgrace their Ancestos,and spoke Chinese with Japanese. And the Taira Clan...who wanted to merge 14th Century Japanese Society with Politics; "Merely by forcing others to abandon Ancient Chinese Tradition,or be killed. My son's studies on the Takeda Clan uncovered that the Takeda, and Mori Clans were both direct descendants of the Kamakura Minamoto Clan.,and they still spoke the Chinese - Japanese Language mix. So some of the Kamakura Minamoto Clan might have escaped Death, and branched apart only to protect themselves. Perhaps, between the Takeda and Mori never had any disagreements.
I think this is the Battle of Kawanakajima, a series of battles between 1553-1564 between the forces of Takeda Shingen and Uesugi Kenshin . This is one of them wd Usami Sadamitsu a retainer of Uesugi Kenshin lost his life againts Takeda Shingen. The battles were inconclusive per historical records.
The positive of Hollyweird wokeness is that I am discovering and enjoying movies made in other cultures on a more frequent basis. So diversity after all.
You'd never really want to cross blades with Katana's. They just didn't have the tensile strength to handle shock like that. They'd crack or nick easily. They were sharp, but would also dull quickly due to the pig iron they would be forged with. Depending on when this is supposed to take place, they wouldn't use spears, but Naginata or even Tachi's. Not sure why they only wore their Katana and Tanto, but not their wakizashi's. Also, one wore their sword blade up and the other blade down. You typically always worse it blade up for faster draw due to the curve in the blade.
but but he hit the armour... The ARMOUR!! whats the point of wearing armour in the first place when you still get slice, on the hardest point of the armour
Because in a movie armor can stand up to or be destroyed by whatever the script says. For samurai of this status, at this time, a sword would not have cut through armor like that. That being said, I do not think it does that even in the movie. Looking at where Kenshin (black armor) pulls his sword from, it appears that he cut into the armpit of Usami (green armor). Under the arm was a weak point in Japanese armor. Some samurai who could afford it would wear a piece of auxiliary armor that provided some added protection to the armpit. There were a few different types with different names, but the basic construction of them was a padded cloth garment with small metal plates sewn into and/or onto them.
