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Kensington Orbit Without Scrollring Review 

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This is an often overlooked trackball which is essentially the same performance as the highly rated Kensington Orbit With Scroll Ring.
They both use the same optical tracking technology and same size ball. I am willing to bet they use the same mouse clicking hardware. The only real difference is one has a scroll ring and one does not.
The scroll ring is not really needed and only scrolls up and down. Scince neither have a middle mouse button you need some sort of program to compensate and which can give you a better mouse scrolling experience than the scroll wheel.
I use "X-Mouse Button Control". It is free and open source. I use it so all I have to do is hold both buttons down and use the trackball to scroll not only up and down but side to side.

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@sarahmosberger8769
@sarahmosberger8769 3 года назад
I am not computer savvy. I am the person IT hate. I am so thankful you took your time and explained what you were doing. I am scrolling now. Thank you so much.
@henriquemarques6196
@henriquemarques6196 6 месяцев назад
you're the person IT hate? Are you QA? hahahaha
@wesleyb6974
@wesleyb6974 3 года назад
Thank you for such a detailed video on the features of both the mouse and scroll options. You answered all of my questions regarding the mouse and the freeware that I didn't even know I will need. 😂
@dougcampbell8778
@dougcampbell8778 3 месяца назад
Thanks for talking about the scoll program, scrolling was severely lacking feature with the otherwise great trackball!
@Rome.
@Rome. 2 года назад
Thanks for the extensive review and configuration information. I have the Kensington WITH scroll wheel. Unlike the standard mouse wheels, you can continuously scroll by keeping your finger on the wheel. You can also set the wheel sensitivity for even more speed. As mentioned, you also use the wheel during the zoom function. A comment mentioned "frequent left click failure." After 8 years of extensive use, I've only recently soldered in a replacement left switch, taken from a spare standard mouse. I have changed my mouse cable twice. The X-mouse software is not compatible with Linux systems but there is equivalent software. As previously mentioned, best of both worlds with the scroll wheel, if you don't find the price prohibitive.
@vwmullen
@vwmullen 3 года назад
Great video tutorial on how to configure X-Mouse Button Control! I have the Orbit WITH scroll ring and still set it up this way. It's nice to have two ways to scroll.
@professorjake8369
@professorjake8369 4 года назад
Thank you so much for the explanation between the one with the ring and the one without. Now I will get the one with out the ring. Thanks again
@ItsMeVaaruni
@ItsMeVaaruni 2 года назад
That is a perfect description for this product, Thank you @Genie . Its clear crisp
@MrFrezzno
@MrFrezzno 5 лет назад
Was considering to change my Logitech marble to kensington because I couldn't scroll. With your method I can keep my Logitech marble. Thank you for this video, I learned a lot.
@bryanstark324
@bryanstark324 Год назад
Great review! and the software you found is awesome!
@humblemanor2376
@humblemanor2376 2 года назад
I too have that older kensington that i retired to backup status after 21 years 4 months ago. I thought I had to pull it out of retirement already as the ball in my new orbit (watching review as I type) had become jumpy. Had already tried cleaning the little rollerballs with alcohol but no difference. Replaced the 3 plastic balls with 2mm steel ball bearings and it's now smoother / silkier to use than when new. The bearings are cheap on ebay for 20 so I've got plenty of spares!
@genievoicecommand2141
@genievoicecommand2141 Год назад
Great tip! I will have to give the 2mm steel ball bearings a try. Have you tried putting in the ball from the older Kensington into the new one? It is the same size but a bit heavier. When you flick that one it really rolls.
@humblemanor2376
@humblemanor2376 Год назад
@@genievoicecommand2141 I'm not sure the bearings turn in their holders, changed bearings last week as they had developed little flat spots causing the ball to become a bit jumpy again. Wasn't expecting to see that! Maybe just needed to turn each bearing around a bit.
@musicalgamingathlete
@musicalgamingathlete 3 года назад
Great video! Very informative, and you sound like a kind woman. I appreciated your music theory references, although I was trained to refer to two notes on a piano as an “interval” rather than “harmony.” Thanks for the video!
@rodneyjweltham150
@rodneyjweltham150 2 года назад
Interesting review of the orbit. I'm trying to replace an ancient Logitech 'side-mount' wired trackball and was interested in the Kensington Orbit wired unit. Thanks for your review!
@genievoicecommand2141
@genievoicecommand2141 Год назад
Do you mean the old "Logitech Trackman Marble FX"? I been wanting to get one of those for years now. I hear their performance is legendary.
@PacificRimWeb
@PacificRimWeb 10 месяцев назад
I'm really happy for this video because I was able to dig up my Logitech Marble Mouse USB and scroll like I've wanted to with it. Only thing I added in from all your steps is set the 'unblock' from default 750ms down to 400ms. I'll probably set it to 250ms once I get used to this. Reason is, I want it to only trigger with near simultaneous left-right clicks, otherwise it gets in the way of my rapid work flow. And, I jack up the 'Acceleration' in Windows so it's accurate when slow, but moves quick over larger distances. But yeah, the scrollring is just clutter that is actually more extraneous movements. I love my Logitech Marble Mouse USB. I think it's the most perfect pointing device ever. At their current prices I sure hope it never breaks. I have no idea why they cost so much now.
@ovehbe
@ovehbe 4 года назад
Thanks for the video! I actually bought this one and I think this is the best one by far, the scroll is better than the others in linux the default is you scroll while you hold the right click. The expert and slimblade are just too expensive the expert is slanted and the slimblade seems that the buttons are meeh, this is not a professional review but if you are worried about the scroll it's really really good...
@AudioReplica2023
@AudioReplica2023 4 года назад
I think the major complain with Kensington trackballs right now is the left click. They go bad real quick. Another thing we gotta take in consideration is that when you create a new product the main goal is to make the job easier to the customers. Customers buy something when they feel the need to make a task easier for them. Example; Old knob Television Vs New Tv's with remote controller(90's). Why having the customer press two buttons before scrolling ...when non of the previous mouses in the market make you do that. Orbit was the response from Kensington to customers complains about the scrolling wheel not been there where they need it to be. Thats why it failed. Now, dont think im attacking your video , you have a nice video and great point of view from you part but I guess this mouse is for people who doesnt really care much about making an extra effort when using a new product. And I guess I am one of those ...thats why im watching it right now👍🏽
@genievoicecommand2141
@genievoicecommand2141 Год назад
I understand about what you said concerning the buttons. The button mechanism in this trackball are just standard ones. As such the more you use them the faster they wear out. So having to use both to scroll will wear them out a bit faster. My right mouse button started to become less reliable after about 2.5 years. I stopped using the trackball for almost a year till I took it apart and followed a tutorial on how to bend the part of the button to make it work reliably again. That was about a year ago and it is still going strong. Honestly you can get like 5 or 10 mouse button switches off Amazon for like 5 or 10 dollars. Would be a breeze to just pop one out and solder a new in. Your comments are great and I didn't feel attacked at all. Though I do ramble on and say UMMM a lot. Which drives even me crazy when I watch it. LOL
@GabrielMartinez88
@GabrielMartinez88 3 года назад
Muy bien video muchas gracias 👌
@samlenlap
@samlenlap 4 года назад
thanks for the video. I am looking to buy trackball, my main use is Inkscape & fusion 360 & other cad programs would you recommend it, considering that I need to do a lot of click and drag operation. what do you think?
@SecondLifeDesigner
@SecondLifeDesigner Год назад
I find drag operations even easier to use with a trackball. See you can click then move the ball. Once you are in the right spot make sure you take your finger off the ball before you release the button. This ensures the mouse cursor doesn't move.
@NoSTs123
@NoSTs123 Месяц назад
just gor one and I am disapointed. The mouse sensor makes an audible high pitched noise, the ball jumps out of its place when scrolling down and the whole device wobbles as its surface is not flat. The DPI resolution of the sensor seems also very low to me.
@zachricemusic
@zachricemusic 9 месяцев назад
I worked around this with an AutoHotKey script. I can scroll by holding middle mouse, click as normal with middle mouse, and even toggle into scroll mode by double clicking middle mouse or inputting a keyboard shortcut. Loads of other settings like logarithmic speed settings, sensitivity, etc. It's pretty great!!! You don't need a scroll ring at all, and honestly, it kind of sucks compared to scrolling with the trackball itself.
@hamidahmed8076
@hamidahmed8076 4 года назад
now you can download KensingtonWorks software from their website, free and easy to use :)
@flutescope
@flutescope 3 года назад
It's nice to see a die-hard fan of a classic trackball, and it indeed looks and feels nicer than the scroll ring version. Just the ball is like no other in the market. But, what about zooming? That breaks the whole thing. I used to see these mostly in point of sale systems that require nothing more than pointing and clicking where a stationary device is better than a mouse.
@genievoicecommand2141
@genievoicecommand2141 Год назад
Not quite sure what you mean by zooming. How do you zoom with a regular mouse? What programs do you zoom in.
@flutescope
@flutescope Год назад
@@genievoicecommand2141 Zooming is usually done with the scrollwheel up/down, either by itself or in combination with pressing and holding a key down (ctrl). Of course, there are usually zoom in/out buttons on toolbars to click with the pointer, but it's not as agile.
@viauyeung
@viauyeung 2 года назад
I like my expert mouse & slimblade, right now I have a keyboard tray & I try to find a smaller size device that can actually fit in the tray, I also want to try a smaller size ball & see if I can get a faster response on gaming. Scroll ring is a wonderful invention but could be bothersome when accidentally toggle. Do you mess around with the speed accleration of your mouse pointer?
@genievoicecommand2141
@genievoicecommand2141 Год назад
The TrakballWorks 1.3.1 that I downloaded when I first got the trackball I have the pointer speed set to 4th from the fastest setting. Which is faster than the default setting. I do not have acceleration enabled.
@j.nutzmann4363
@j.nutzmann4363 4 года назад
Thanks..!
@Asadodragao
@Asadodragao 3 года назад
Good night. Can you guide me how to set up the 64221 model in Windows 10? I've had it for many years and I can't do kensingtonworks to recognize this ps/2 model of ours.
@genievoicecommand2141
@genievoicecommand2141 Год назад
You need a ps/2 to USB adapter unless your mother board has a ps/2 mouse input. With a USB adapter the 64221 model should be recognized as an old type mechanical mouse. It should be just a plug and play. You'll still need to download and program the X-Mouse Button Control program if you wan to have the scroll wheel function.
@PLANETWATERMELON
@PLANETWATERMELON 3 года назад
When did this version come out? I thought I got mine like 20 years ago, I think it’s pretty old to.
@genievoicecommand2141
@genievoicecommand2141 Год назад
The newer silver and black one I believe came out about 7 years ago.
@johncipolla8335
@johncipolla8335 4 года назад
Mine arrived today and I cant get the software to work. It wont recognize it eve if I try to add it
@genievoicecommand2141
@genievoicecommand2141 Год назад
I know the trackball works with Windows 7 and newer. My guess is your trackball is defective. I would send it back and get and ask for a replacement.
@leventcolak1146
@leventcolak1146 9 месяцев назад
thank you sooooo much ma'am
@darrenhurrell
@darrenhurrell 4 года назад
Is there a Mac equivalent? believe this is Windows only. Many thanks. Really need the scroll feature.
@genievoicecommand2141
@genievoicecommand2141 Год назад
I don't know but others have posted that if you search around you can find similar programs for Mac and probably Linux as well.
@rkennedy4038
@rkennedy4038 6 месяцев назад
Thankyou!😀
@mattias0114
@mattias0114 4 года назад
any idea if this is a feature on linux ? Exactly ubuntu 18.04 or forward ?
@cindrmon
@cindrmon 3 года назад
i actually found a video on how to use xinput in changing the bindings of your mouse, which i think might work on most linux distros.. although, you might need to get used to the terminal for it, since it is a bit hacky.. here's the link: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hIAJ9Icq3KU.html
@genievoicecommand2141
@genievoicecommand2141 Год назад
Gosh, I am so sorry I have no idea.
@kimchee94112
@kimchee94112 2 года назад
I have this one and don't like it. The black rubber part is sticky to the touch and the ball falls off. I have the Logitech M570 Wireless Trackball Mouse for right hand and like it much better. Logitech M705 Marathon Wireless Mouse (not a trackball) just blows everything away. Purchased as MK700/710 keyboard mouse combo.
@SecondLifeDesigner
@SecondLifeDesigner Год назад
If the black rubber part is sticky you must have gotten some really old stock. The rubber coating on stuff like this can get sticky as it ages. You can fix it by using rubbing alcohol on it. If it is really old the rubbing alcohol will actually remove the black coating all together. Better a nice smooth dry surface than a sticky one though.
@dragon-rides
@dragon-rides 4 года назад
You sound like a lovely lady and this was a nice review but all I ended up doing was thinking GET ON WITH IT.
@genievoicecommand2141
@genievoicecommand2141 Год назад
LOL. Yes, I tend to ramble quite a bit and say UMMM a lot. It drives me crazy and do my best not to say UMMM. I don't have the patients or organizational skills to sit down and write out a script. So it is rambling and saying UMMM a lot or no video at all. But there just wasn't really any other videos out about this great often overlooked inexpensive trackball. I thought it deserved one.
@kairos_sou-nd
@kairos_sou-nd 4 года назад
15:05, thank me later.
@mrdespondency6598
@mrdespondency6598 3 года назад
Lol. Thanks. So the skinny with this mouse, is that out the box, it's tricky to scroll. A workaround here is to install a software, that requires depressing two buttons + the ball to scroll. Which sounds okay, but would think that might get you into slightly awkward habits. With downward pressures. But perhaps you get used to it.
@HrEsteva
@HrEsteva 5 лет назад
Thanks for the tutorial but you could’ve wrap it up in just 10 minutes
@genievoicecommand2141
@genievoicecommand2141 Год назад
I'll try to be more to the point next time.
@mikebrambles9974
@mikebrambles9974 3 месяца назад
@@genievoicecommand2141You could talk all day long, your voice is soft and soothing 😊
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